You are away to Hull on Wednesday night which is simply a must win game. After Wednesday, you play three Premier League games where you will be lucky to get one point, against Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea.
These Premier League games are mixed in with the last two Europa League games which will decide whether you go through to the knockout stages of the competition or out of Europe for at least another season and yet another cup competition in the first half of this season.
Your tried and tested 4-5-1 system is struggling. Do you keep with it or change? Players are playing out of position but there is no-one else to play. You have eight players out through injury and two suspended for the trip to Hull. It’s a must win game but you only have twelve first-team players available, most of which are defensive.
If I was the manager of Everton FC, my next team sheet would have to be: Howard, Heitinga, Neil, Yobo, Distin, Gosling, Rodwell, Cahill, Baines, Yakubu, Saha. Subs looking at bringing on would be Hibbert, Wallace & Baxter.
The team needs to be positive against another struggling team. Revert to 4-4-2 with two main positives in the team being Yakubu and Saha. Therefore, get them both on the pitch from the start. I would reluctantly keep Gosling (there are no other options) on the right but tell him to keep the width and get crosses in to supply the strikers.
Baines can create and get assists, and as the only real genuine wide player available (defence and midfield), he is more needed to create and Neil can play left-back and concentrate on stopping the opposition. Heitinga is similar on the right. Both full-backs, stay back and defend first, let Gosling and Baines attack from midfield.
A major problem to solve is Cahill. Get him back in centre midfield or behind a striker, he looks lost on the wing. Let Cahill do what he does best, break late from midfield and support the strikers and try to get a goal. Rodwell can cover Cahill and let him bomb forward. Unfortunately there aren’t many options left. Legs will tire as everyone is already knackered.
Hibbert could possibly come on if we are winning and go to right-back with Heitinga into midfield in place of Cahill or Gosling. If we are not winning and need fresh legs, then you have the young legs of Baxter and Wallace for any of Gosling, Cahill, Yakubu or Saha depending on how each are playing.
David Moyes’s job is currently not easy. He doesn’t have many choices but he seems to be just churning out the same team and tactics every game at the moment. They are not working and something needs to change, we need fresh impetus. If you carry on doing the same things whilst losing, you will inevitably carry on losing.
I understand the injury situation, but you have to do something, you can’t sit back and do nothing, game after game. When you do nothing, you have obviously lost interest and I’m afraid it will be time to go. Come on Davey, be brave, do something and let’s have a go at Hull.
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1 Posted 23/11/2009 at 16:52:49
Hibbert Neill Yobo Distin
Gosling Rodwell Heitinga Baines
Agree with Baines on the left. This set-up looks a lot more balanced than of late. Cahill gets a rest on the bench, and could be brought on for one of the strikers if things aren’t going too well.
2 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:03:30
3 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:10:41
Howard; Neill, Heitinga, Yobo, Distin; Agard (for his pace) Rodwell, Cahill, Baines; Yak and Saha.
Or: Howard; Neill, Heitinga, Yobo Distin; Saha, Rodwell, Cahill, Jo, Baines; Yakubu.....
Or: Howard; Hibbert, Neill, Yobo, Distin; Gosling Rodwell, Cahill, Heitinga, Baines; Saha....
Lots of options but I think it will be the usual negative crap and try to scrape a point at delegation fodder!
4 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:22:33
Yakubu is back as a physically present good footballer. He’s a bit like Rooney at the moment, playing deep, not as effective as he should be. Making him a goalscorer in and around the box would be a boost. Saha is intelligent enough to play around that. So -
but how do you get four midfield around them to work in defence and attack right now? Baines can’t be moved forward.
Neill and Heitinga are getting better, but Cahill and Fellaini are struggling without good players around them.
Somebody once suggested putting Hibbo into midfield - win ball, pass, rest. Why not?
5 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:45:27
People who do not watch Everton on a regular basis will still believe that I have the talent to manage a large club. They might even believe that the injury crisis is not a crutch and that I have had one single attacking idea in my life.
6 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:57:46
7 Posted 23/11/2009 at 18:45:41
Id keep the defence the same as it is now, I dont think its wholly their fault for the problems we are having, it lies mainly in the balance of the midfield. IMO we have Fellaini and Cahill who are similar players, as are Heitinga and Rodwell. They more or less play the same way and the way the Everton team has worked best with Neville, Arteta and Cahill is that they are all different and perform different roles. Cahill gets forward, Neville sits and protects the back 4 and Arteta controls the midfield, uses the ball and keeps us ticking.
Against Hull I would play Cahill off the striker (Saha) where he always plays his best football. Id tell Heitinga to ALWAYS sit in front of the back 4, and pick up any players who go in that area and use Rodwell to get the ball down and pass it around. Against Man U both Heitinga and Rodwell wanted to do the same thing, and no-one picked up any runners in between the midfield and defence and that was our main problem IMO. Get Heitinga to sit, tackle hard and then offload it to Rodwell to bring the offensive players in the game, as opposed to laying it back to Baines etc for them to just hoof it clear.
On the wings I would go for Jo (if fit?) and Baxter. Gosling has been crap and bringing Baxter in wouldnt exactly hurt the team in that respect. Jo has more creativity than any player we currently have fit even if his decisions arent always the best. Let him roam down the left and link up with the striker (s) when he can.
But at the end of the day as Clough said its players that win/lose games and not tactics, or at least something like that and they need to keep their heads and put on a performance regardless of the formation etc...
8 Posted 23/11/2009 at 19:04:29
Surely that’s like saying "Come on Rafa, be un-fat, un-Spanish and un-cuntish"
Or like saying to Phil Brown "Come on Browny, look ever so slightly caucasian"
Not going to happen.
9 Posted 23/11/2009 at 19:22:03
10 Posted 23/11/2009 at 19:38:42
11 Posted 23/11/2009 at 19:56:59
One of the above posters has just nominated Hibbert for a midfield position.
Another poster wants EFC to play attacking footy and therefore selects 8 defenders (I’m guessing there is a GK).
Football Manager needs to get hold of Moyes immediately, and start programing footy games for xmas. Moyes has now got the EFC fan base selecting teams that really make you laugh (hysterically).
Maybe it’s a disease. We can call is Moyse-zitus.
12 Posted 23/11/2009 at 20:01:26
As a red haired person like me, Moyes is unlikely to go in for skin-cancer enhancing therapy such as this, but his teams can, and do, attack. We are unlikely to do that from the start at Hull. As ever, 30 minutes, or just after, will be the turning point.
13 Posted 23/11/2009 at 20:11:48
Your virtual imagination has you selecting TW posters selecting Moyes’s line-up for Wednesday. I guess your game ends you up with a tombraider person or the like... Not how it works here.
14 Posted 23/11/2009 at 20:48:52
15 Posted 23/11/2009 at 20:38:05
I can count and I know there are a few defenders there but against United it would have made sense. (Remember Portsmouth’s formation hammering us last season at home?)
My problem is the absolute lack of a significant change in tactics when things clearly are not working. Come on, Moyes and Round, start earning your wages.
16 Posted 23/11/2009 at 21:17:02
His record is pathetic.
17 Posted 23/11/2009 at 21:24:59
How many games has Moyes got left? We must be into that territory soon.
18 Posted 23/11/2009 at 21:39:17
It’s appalling to everyone concerned, shareholders, fans, players, staff, that the gloom over Goodison is allowed to drag on and on.
I’m not interested in team selections and untold injuries anymore, or even aportioning blame, I want to see this club get back on its feet before it’s too late.
19 Posted 23/11/2009 at 21:47:34
Bryan, I could not agree more!
20 Posted 23/11/2009 at 22:38:50
I also question whether our dire circumstances call for a classical exponent of the art such as Saha or someone fast with a bit of bulk to throw around and a never say die spirit to do just that.
21 Posted 23/11/2009 at 22:54:53
I have a feelign this season won’t be enjoyable. In my opinion our next 2 games could make or break our season. Neither game will be easy as Hull will be thinking the same.Stupid draws against Wolves, Stoke, and Villa I fear we could pay for. We should've got draws against both Burnley and Bolton. We need to win about 4 or 5 games to get us out of trouble in my opinion. Liverpool will be hard but really it usually takes 1 defensive lapse to win 1.
The spartan in my says we’ve got to win at all costs and put some effort in for both games. Derby games are never very good for skilful players as they are gritty affairs.
I pray to god Torres and Babel are still out and Gerrard is injured for the game. I'm feeling depressed about this season. There was no major competition this year so perfect time for an early signing as City did.
22 Posted 23/11/2009 at 23:50:08
But what next?
God forbid we should go for deja vu with a manager like Alan Irvine, with no disrespect to him. My personal favourite is Jan Schindelmeiser, currently manager of Bundesliga minnows Hoffenheim.
Schindelmeiser has taken Hoffenheim (pop. 3,000) from the German 3rd tier to near top of the Bundesliga in just 2 years. Last season they led teh league for a long time.
Aside from his obvious achievement in taking Hoffenheim from obscurity to European football in just a few minutes, there are 3 very compelling reasons why Schindelmeiser is worthy of note.
- He has spent precious little money on the team. No big buys and great use of young players.
- He has a personal netwrork which is strong in South America in particular and has resulted in several excellent young players joining Hoffenheim for very little money, but now brilliant reputations.
- He plays open, attacking and controlled football. Hoffenheim revel in going to the big boys (Bayern etc) and doing them over, not through smasgh & grab, but by playing them off the park and scaring them.
I think we’ve pretty much all had enough of horrible starts to the season, tedious & unimaginative football and a team afraid to express itself. The earlier he goes, the better he’ll be remembered & appreciated. But I really think he now has to go.
23 Posted 24/11/2009 at 00:04:09
Neill, Heitinga, Yobo, Distin,
Gosling, Rodwell, Cahill, Baines
As the game went on I’d sub Gosling and bring on Jo allowing one of the stikers to play on the wing.
I have a feeling this is going to be an ugly ugly game. Hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling even against Hull we are going to be defensive and try to nick a goal.
24 Posted 24/11/2009 at 06:16:19
Neill - Jobo - Distin - Baines
Baxter - Rodwell - Jo
I think with the injuries and suspensions that we have at the moment this formation can be solid at the back and quite attacking as well. I would love to see Baxter given a proper chance and although they are premiership opposition, a team like Hull might not faze him like Man Utd or Chelsea. This would still leave Hibbert, Gosling, Yakubu, Nash, Agard, Wallace, Duffy on the bench. Cahill back to his best position. Rodwell in the middle with the destroyer in Hetinga behind. I do not feel moving the defenders around to play Baines left mid is right. The entire back line needs to be consistent with each other. I am not Jo’s greatest fan but I do feel he does have something to offer given enough playing time. I know I have still picked a 4-5-1 but not a variation seen often. Wasn’t Moyes the first to use a 4-1-4-1 formation? How about a new bit of innovation Davey??
25 Posted 24/11/2009 at 06:29:23
26 Posted 24/11/2009 at 06:41:41
Neill - Jags - Distin - Baines
---- Arteta - Hetinga----
Pienaar - Fellaini - Bily
------ Saha ------
Nash, Yobo, Hibbert, Neville, Rodwell, Cahill, Yakubu.
That team and bench is mouthwatering.
And some posters are saying that the injuries should not be that much of an issue. FFS back to planet earth please.
27 Posted 24/11/2009 at 08:00:23
Not quite with your response but my exposure to FM is limited to how much notice I take when my son plays it.
My problem, I am guessing here, is that I have supported EFC since 76, had the dizzy heights of the 80’s and therefore find this drivel served up most Saturdays as pathetic. But hey thats my view.
Team selection to me at the moment is quite easy due to injuries - but with Moyes you can guarantee it will be defensive so perm your 4-5-1 with 8 defenders and Billy or Peanuts (if those two are out then its nine defenders plus Saha or Yak).
28 Posted 24/11/2009 at 08:18:24
Neil Distin Yobo Heitinga
Gosling Rodwell Fellaini Baines
Bench: Cahill Nash Baxter Jo Agard Hibbert
Baines needs to play on the left wing so we can some balance. I beleive heitinga has done a job at left back for the Dutch before.
That team will beat Hull.
29 Posted 24/11/2009 at 08:25:42
30 Posted 24/11/2009 at 08:23:05
SUBS: Gosling, Baxter, Jo
Rodwell on the right, because he had 1 great strike from the right side against ManU.
This team should go out to browbeat Hull, but will Moyes allow that ?
31 Posted 24/11/2009 at 08:32:55
For the derby, we can have 3 players potentially coming in (Pienaar, Fellaini, Bily). The team against Liverpool could be:
Subs: Cahill, Jo, Baxter, Gosling, Hibbert, Nash
Quite an attacking line-up.
But first, i am hope that we play well get all 3 points against Hull.
32 Posted 24/11/2009 at 09:49:59
If I were the manager, first and foremost, I’d resign and apply for the Celtic job. The next manager should then come in and apply attacking prinicples to the team then whoever slots into any position knows how the game should be played i.e. not lumping the ball forward all the time. I’d emphasise to all the players that posession is key and therefore try and keep the ball. Even for a defence minded coach, they can’t score if you’ve got the ball. This would also solve our injury problems because the workload of the players would be eased instead of having to spend 85 minutes chasing after the ball. It’s no wonder our players are knackered.
With the players available I would build the team around our main goal threats - Cahill and Saha. Play them in their best positions. So either Fellaini adapts to play in a deeper position or he’s dropped. I would also leave one man up when we defend set pieces to allow us to break more quickly. Then with what transfer budget I had I’d buy some attack minded players instead of defenders all the time.
I think under Moyes our team lack even the basics, which if applied properly would make a difference.
33 Posted 24/11/2009 at 10:22:58
I for one have not seen anything that most people on this site seem to to see, he has no real craft, no skill, hides most of the game in positions that keep him out the game.
He can pass 10 yards at best and mainly backwards.
This is only my opinion and that leads me to believe he will never be good enough.
Forget age, forget tiredness you always see some ability and apart from a cameo performance in a derby last season he has produced not a lot, certainly not enough to command a first team place when all are fit and I believe with that scenario he would not be picked.
Please someone tell me what I am missing and those that agreed with me at the weekend who by the way were loyal well versed Everton fans involved at various levels with the club and supporters.
To answer your point re who to pick then I suppose you have one of the answers.
34 Posted 24/11/2009 at 09:35:39
Sub : Nash/Heitinga/Fellaini/Cahill/Jo
Sub should come in if there any problem or sub @ 65min.
Full back : STAY BACK forgodsake
Yobo : His fast so he will stay and cover up if anyone bypass Distin
Distin : he will go right @ who has the ball and pass it away to the Midfield
Gosling will go forward while rodwell stay back and assist in def
Baines : Cross and assit
Billy : back @ his last club, it show he can cut in and score
Saha : should make full use of his pace
Yakubu : Big and Strong, Hold up play and pass to Saha or even score afew if there any chance
We have being playing some pretty boring football lately but with these player we have i do believe we can play pass and move style.
Hull is a team we should not look down on as all the player from hull are hardworking.
35 Posted 24/11/2009 at 11:38:56
We were never a Barcelona with all players fit. If we get anymore injuries were fucked. I think we should've gone for the likes of Darren Bent or Jermain Defoe last year. We seem to have got to cockey and it's paid.
36 Posted 24/11/2009 at 13:58:58
Baxter Cahill Yakubu Saha jo
Tactics: These are crap, keep the ball on the floor, dont stand still when a team mate has it and they won't get near us. Full backs get forward whenever you can and look to play the ball in behind every chance you get
37 Posted 24/11/2009 at 17:44:00
38 Posted 24/11/2009 at 22:16:18
You have it spot on except that central midfield which wil be powder puff with Rodwell and Gosling in it. Take them out and put in Cahill and Heitinga or possibly keep Rodwell at Heitinga’s expense. On Sunday we need to battle for everything so I don’t see that as a game for Fellaini and Rodwell to be prancing around in midfield.
Hibbert, Yobo, Distin, Neill
Billy, Heitinga, Cahill, Baines,
And if Pienaar is fit, he should play instead of Billy.
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