Good to see the likes of Mustafi and Duffy amongst a few others get a run out the other night but I don't see how a few minutes against a poor side is going to help their development.
I think the two mentioned ? along with Baxter, Wallace, Nsiala and Forshaw ? should have 6-10 months in the Championship to get used to playing proper football at a decent standard.
If they struggle badly then I think it's fair to say at their ages then they probably won't cut the mustard for us.
I don't see the point in having lads around the ages of 19-20 playing youth or reserves football.
Stephen Kenny, Posted 17/08/2011 at 10:20:26
Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer
1 Posted 17/08/2011 at 14:27:00
2 Posted 17/08/2011 at 16:05:27
But, would the likes of Nsiala,Wallace and Mustafi posess enough quality to be of interest to championship sides?
3 Posted 17/08/2011 at 16:12:01
He seemed quite composed on the ball, showed some good passing ability creating some decent chances. He showed some good skill and abilty all round, keeping the ball for the team in some awkward situations.
I hear he did well in the lower leagues last season, would be good to see him given a chance in the championship.
4 Posted 17/08/2011 at 17:08:52
5 Posted 17/08/2011 at 17:23:33
6 Posted 17/08/2011 at 19:00:10
If your not good enough for the first team at 21 then chances are you never will be.
The really good players come through as teenagers (Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley).
The likes of Wallace, Baxter, Forshaw, Mustafi, Duffy and Vellios are all turning 20 this season and must make some kind of impact.
If they dont I would move them on and give the next generation a chance. Dont forget the likes of Garbutt, Bidwell, Orenuga, Lundstram, Hammar and hope are coming up fast.
7 Posted 17/08/2011 at 19:13:33
8 Posted 17/08/2011 at 19:55:21
9 Posted 17/08/2011 at 20:04:50
There are players who only show their best when given a chance, i.e an extended run in the side. How badly did Turner and Ruddy do in the reserves never to be given a chance?
I cannot accept that Moyes sees them in training and knows what's best. He needs to see them in the premier league.
10 Posted 17/08/2011 at 20:21:03
Moyes picks his best players because he wants to win games and be successful.
Its silly to me that Moyes would pick a lesser player and reduce the chances of winning the game because he might be friendlier with one player then the other.
11 Posted 17/08/2011 at 20:25:07
What are basing this opinion on?
The two appearances he made in the Europa League or have you been watching him regulary in the reserves???
Surely your not talking about last season where he went on-loan to Burnley for two months and only got into their team once???
Its a big statement to make that all that seperates Duffy and regular England International and £15 million Arsenal target Phil Jagielka is a run of games.
Maybe I'm wrong but I would expect if Phil Jagielka joined Burnley for 2 months they would play him more then once.
12 Posted 17/08/2011 at 20:34:33
He never gave a chance to that young lad.....what was his name.....Wayne Rooney.
And now all the youngsters are being blocked from the first team by the likes of Rodwell and Coleman.
And now this season we are undoubtedly going to have to watch old man Ross Barkley feature regulary.
13 Posted 17/08/2011 at 20:44:51
He is basing his opinion on a few games he played for the irsh under 19's and 21's.
Andy, you must agree it's quite ironic that you criticise Moyes for playing his favourites and then start stating Duffy should get in the team. You certainly are patriotic.
14 Posted 17/08/2011 at 21:00:05
You cannot accept that Moyes sees them in training and knows what's best? If he saw you, me or Michael Kenrick in training every day I am sure he would know we are not (yet) ready for first team football.
15 Posted 17/08/2011 at 21:39:54
Crowd support is far greater and more demanding than the few mums and dads presently watching them. I am confident
It would do more for the lads development than molly coddling them in meaningless reserve or youth games.
Besides that, I am sick of decrepit cast off Poms that come down under for a last pay day before an age care home.
16 Posted 18/08/2011 at 00:33:38
The minor leagues are the minor leagues, any sport anywhere. Why have them sitting on their asses when they could be playing. The place for these kids is MLS. It doesn't follow the FIFA-preferred Fall/Winter schedule. At worst, they come back mid-season fit and with experience.
The Club has to think in a broader way. Waiting for the England Club football season to start, makes no sense. Players improve (or don't) by playing.
17 Posted 18/08/2011 at 00:54:00
18 Posted 18/08/2011 at 01:18:02
Add Your Comments
In order to post a comment to the MailBag, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.
Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and MailBag submissions across the site.