Season 2011-12
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Outstanding Manager
21 Comments: Don't worry. It will all be ok because, according to Lawrenson, we've got an outstanding manager. If that's the case then we won't be seeing any more of the following;
1. Best players left on the bench until it's almost too late. If they are fit, they should start.
2. Players played out of position, Rodwell can't play out wide and shouldn't be asked to, it's ruining him.
3. Defenders in midfield. Heitinga is NOT a midfielder, we might as well play with one less player.
4. The lone striker, Beckford can't do it, Saha can't do it. Play them together, we might get somewhere.
5. The Cahill role, whatever it is. He's not playing as an attacker, he's not playing as a midfielder. He was most effective playing in midfield and breaking forward, if he's not worth a place in midfield, don't pick him.
6. All 10 outfield players back for corners, even when the opposition only send 4 players up for it.
7. Bizarre substitutions. For 10 weird minutes, losing 1-0 at home and we had no strikers on the field!
8. Launching long throw-ins into the box whenever we get in range in the hope of a flick on. It never works.
9. Negative interviews in the media telling everyone how much of a struggle it's going to be. We know. Start talking the team up.
No doubt our outstanding manager will realise that, in the 21st century, we have to play bold attacking football with lots of movement and speed in order to compete (Aston Villa played Heskey, Agbonlohor, Bent and N'Zogbia in their win today).
The sad truth is that he has no ideas left; we are doing nothing new, nothing original, nothing creative. The football is slow, dull, unimaginative and outdated. We are standing still and being overtaken by other teams. He is not inspiring or challenging anyone to do better and there is a disaster looming unless he is bold enough to do something different.
For the sake of his career and Everton he should go because he just has nothing left to offer and I am sorry to have to say it.
Peter Carpenter, Posted 21/08/2011 at 00:14:09
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Arteta, Fellaini and Saha looked anything but fit. Saha and Beckford were both so poor it could defend playing without any strikers. That was if Tim Cahill had fared any better, he didnīt.
The perception is cast in stone, no wonder some of our fanbase can't acknowledge what has been going on in front of their own eyes.
Sadly,yesterday's performance proved to me that we are EVERTON-the next Leeds Utd-a once great club ruined by mismanagement from top to bottom.
The statement was made mid-week by Moyes - "I think we are going to have a big struggle to finish in the top 10 this season... I can see the likes of West Brom, Stoke, Fulham and Sunderland have all tried to improve and the reason they have done that is to finish where Everton can." What message does the likes of this send out to the players - the best we can hope for this year is mid table mediocrity boys so just go out and do your best knowing that regardless of how you perform your place in the team is secure and you will all still pick up your mega wages at the end of the month. This is the team that Moyes had so much hope for last year don't forget. Almost everything seems as stale as a 2 week old loaf at Everton and screaming for change.
The problem has always been Moyes negativity: the sideways passing the 3 defensive midfielders on the pitch against Wigan at home. His insistence on taking every single bit of creativity out of the likes of AJ. The fact he kept Vic and sold Vaughan. While Van der Meyde never ever performed well for Everton, I do now agree with his sentiments about Moyes being a liar.
Moyes will never be able to manage United as will they allow somebody who has a consistent record of not being able to beat teams by more than 2 goals. His tactics cost us the FA Cup Final. When we drew 0 0 home and away with Chelsea that season, we played the ball on the floor. Naturally Moyes decides to play hoofball meaning Chelsea and constant possession. I think it's time for fans to stand up and let him know we won't accept this.
My girlfriend loves going to the game and wants to go again but I would not put myself through that never mind subject her to it.
If you cant be positive and pick the players up or have a go at them, and my god do some of them deserve it, move aside and let someone else have a go, and please take chairman of the year with you too!
1. It became clear the longer the first half went on that Rodwell was not comfortable playing in a wide right position. He is a defensive midfielder or a central defender. He is a fine player in either of those postions but as a wide midfield player he was clearly out of position. There were 3 or 4 players who you would put ahead pf Rodwell for that position.
2. Osman can play the wide right midfield role. A good manager would have either changed things at half time by either a) swopping around Osman and Rodwell or b) replacing Rodwell. Moyes kept things going for anout 10 minutes of the 2nd half - a waste of 10 minutes and also the very public substitution of Rodwell didn't exactly do a lot for his confidence.
3. Replacing Beckford with Fellaini when there were 3 other strikers on the bench is on of the most bizzare substitutions I have ever seen an Everton manager make. I was absolutely appalled - with about 25 minutes left and trailing 0-1 he leaves us without a recognised striker on the pitch.
It is understanadble to ask Fellaini to play as makeshift striker when there are no other strikers available, but when there are 3 on the bench is an act of sheer stupidity. It is hardly sending out a message of confidence to those players on the bench is it.?br />
4. In the last 5 minutes I saw Saha in our half whist Fellaini was up in the QPR penalty area !!! Should it not have been the other way around?
5. Moyes is only too ready to take the credit when things go well - but when they go wrong he blames the players. I am amazed that they show him such loyalty .
6. Beckford clearly needed support. He would look a different player playing alongside another striker.
7. Moyes has the utter audacity to come on national TV and state we need strikers - strikers - he only only starts with one striker in 95% of the games !!!!!!!
8. Arsene Wenger has been criticised in the media - yet he has won most of the major trophies and completely transformed the public perception of Arsenal. At one time they were seen as dour and defensive - now they noted as a team commited to playing attractive attacking football. If such a manager who has achieved so much can be criticised then so can Moyes, who in my opininion is just "Gordon Lee with better PR"
I would have more respect for Moyes in his post match interview apologised for his obvious mistakes. Accountability does not appear to be in his vocabulary.I travelled over from near Lincoln for the match - I am hoping to go to more games this season - I am old enough now ( just turned 54 and 47 of those years an Evertonian) to know that there is always the next game.
However Moyes is very much Mr Predictable. He is basking in the sure knowledge that his job is safe. Well we would all like such job security wouldn't we and we would all like to deflect our failings onto others and let them take the blame. Yes the players didn't perform to their best - but how on earth can we expect them to perform to their best with such poor leadership?
In my opinion another manager would get more out of the same squad of players. Moyes says he wants competition for places - coming from someone who acts like his own is completely untouchable his attitude is arrogance bordering on hypocrisy. Defend Moyes if you want Paul - I really feel sorry for you. " He's got red hair and HE doesn't care Davey Davey Moyes"
Bloody Hell, if the club itself is paying for such claptrap, no wonder he appears complacent. What other club would have to pay to change signage if the manager left!?
Another matter that came to my attention during the game and something I have mentioned before was Round reading several pages of instructions to subs before they came on. It made me wonder if it was really that necessary or are the players too bloody stupid.
In his post-match comments, Moyes makes vague statements about lack of a cutting edge etc. By hinting that the fault lies with the players, he absolves himself from any share of responsibility.
That attitude reminds me of my tiny cash starved amateur club's new coach. He demanded a state-of-the-art whiteboard with all the latest technological bells and whistles.
Oh what wonderful games he had us playing on that board. We went undefeated for the entire season.
In the real world it was a different story and we were lucky to escape relegation.
First home match... Real Madrid are in town!! oh no it was QPR so we best play 1 up front, leave the best 2 midfielders and best striker on the bench ( if they are not fit then dont bench them) and try not to lose.
I will never knock what David Moyes has acheived, phenomenal, probably only Sir Alex could have done the same, and in reality, if he went, who would we get?! Davey...
I would prefer you played 2 or 3 up front and went for it and lose 1-0 than the garbage that is offered up. This is what keeps people away.
his is everton Davey, you cannot produce what is being played at home... people just do not entertain it.
Is it beyond the pale that maybe the best thing we can do is call it a day! We had a great 130+ years, that will do.
Best midfielders? Now I know you are not talking about Arteta, as he hasn't played well for almost a season.
If we had played two or three up front we would have probably been tonked and Toffeeweb would have imploded with all the posts and probable death threats
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A very poor start to the season! This had "spring board" written all over it & yet "we" blew it?! I say "we" but in actual fact Davey blew it... Again? Yes! First game of the season, subject to delay, relatively easy opposition compared to Spurs. What does he do? Well, we all know. Tried & tested playmakers/goalscorers on bench & then far too late subs/changes to make any difference.
I'm sick of hearing about where we would be without Moyes. As far as I'm concerned, there are 2 people patting each other on the back at this club. And they both consider themselves the best men for the job & NOBODY can question this or oppose it. Why...? Because all majority shareholders are personal friends of the chairman... MONOPOLY!!