I'm very confused about Moyes's comments that he now needs a new centre back.
Am I right in thinking that Jags is only out for 6 weeks, we have Distin, Heitinga and Neville as cover, plus we have Shane Duffy coming back.
Does Moyes not trust Duffy? If he doesn't think he can cope with a Tamworth strikeforce then why not just release him together with all the other youth defenders we have. What must Moyes's comments do to Duffy's confidence?
I surely hope that Moyes doesn't play a twin defensive midfield again. If we do then a small part of me wants us to lose in order for Moyes to finally walk. However, before I get lambasted, I would never want us to lose a game. Here's to an attacking 4-4-2 all season.
Henry Jones, Posted 07/01/2012 at 11:25:30
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1 Posted 07/01/2012 at 14:32:51
I have followed Shane's career for a number of years (we're not related, by the way). Without his horrendous injury, I have no doubt he would be Everton's regular centre-half.
He will be a super player and now is his chance. He needs a run in the side and some support. Believe me, if given the chance, he will become an Everton legend.
2 Posted 07/01/2012 at 14:59:15
3 Posted 07/01/2012 at 16:01:02
He's Northern Irish, played the whole way up through their youth ranks... then switched at the 11th hour to the Republic.
4 Posted 07/01/2012 at 16:36:04
Hes a Derry lad. Derry is a border city. Many people here count themselves as Irish and every single one of them has the right to an Irish passport.
I do not blame him for switching to the Republic. They are a good side who always have a chance at qualification. Northern Ireland is a shambles of an international team, with an extremely political fanbase (to which many would be against Shane Duffy ? not hard to work out which religion he is). Yes, things are much better now than they were, but the recent abuse of Neil Lennon shows it isn't all rosey. I do not blame him one bit for his choice.
(I couldn't give a damn about politics or religion. I am not inviting a debate here about it either. I am just responding to what I perceived as a quite derogatory remark. I am from Northern Ireland and I am just stating some facts).
5 Posted 07/01/2012 at 16:51:17
6 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:44:36
I heard Jags could be out for 6-10 weeks. That's a long time to have no CB cover, Neville could fill in but not ideal. Duffy has been doing okay at Scunthorpe apparently but this is two leagues up and I for one would not be sure about having him in the team for 10 games if Distin or Johnny should pick up a knock too.
7 Posted 07/01/2012 at 17:50:45
8 Posted 07/01/2012 at 18:09:50
9 Posted 07/01/2012 at 18:49:36
"Alex, like you I don't give a damn about politics or relegation"
Was that a slip, or have you been watching too much Everton of late? Made me chuckle anyway!
10 Posted 07/01/2012 at 19:05:57
Yea... Cause the Derry Diego (Pat McCourt) gets boo'ed a lot doesn't he?
So he turned a back on the people who helped him develop for footballing reasons... you're not scared this will carry through to his senior career? As soon as a sniff of a bigger club comes in, he will rock the boat and want to move.
Will you still defend his ''attitude''? That's my main worry about this guy, I get the impression he feels he is better than he is and ? IF he did make the step up ? would rock the boat and leave at his first opportunity.
11 Posted 07/01/2012 at 20:20:39
Actually, I know a lot of people, mostly idiots, who hate Pat McCourt in a N Ireland shirt. He got cheered that one time because he scored a wonder goal. Do not be so naive. And its a shame, because he is good.
Duffy started football in a small, close-knit city, at a small club. If you get a chance to go play for the youth set up of an international side when your 13 or 14 years old, in a town like Derry, you're hardly going to say "No, I am destined for better things, I will wait." Again naive.
He is hardly a traitor for making a perfectly legal decision. As his footballing career has developed, earning the move to Everton, he clearly felt that he had the potential to go onto better things at international level, something Northern Ireland won't be able to offer for at least the next 20 years the way things are going.
I would also be willing to take a punt in guessing that the South is where his heart is. Exactly like Darren Gibson, another Derry born player with stronger ties to the 'city side' . I would like to ask are you from the area? It isn't quite like other places. Half of Derry is well and truely in the 'southern Ireland' camp.
It isn't like his granny's neighbour's dog's friend once knew a man who had an Irish landlord. He is dual nationality, and he was not locked to either side.
12 Posted 07/01/2012 at 22:32:04
13 Posted 08/01/2012 at 01:42:58
Seriously fellas, what the fuck are you talking about? Stick to the OP rather than discussing pointless crap.
14 Posted 08/01/2012 at 03:06:45
People who seem to know something of the lad's background are sharing it with us. It is certainly not "pointless crap". That's what we're here for. Your post is entirely uncalled for. Back off!
15 Posted 08/01/2012 at 05:03:27
What a joke. Get Duffy back, put him in the squad, and fucking make a player out of him, David.
16 Posted 08/01/2012 at 09:23:32
He was on loan at Burnley last year after he recovered from injury. Too much too fast.
Thomas Surgenor - That's utter babble - he is playing for his country because he is able and it was always his desire to do so. As if someone has to justify that desire.
Andrew Edwards said: "I have seen Shane play a few times but I have seen nothing from him to suggest he will be a top player. I see him as a very average defender with limited qualities, someone who may have a good career in the lower leagues or maybe league of Ireland. Against Sligo Rovers at the showgrounds last year he was awful."
Wow. All players are limited, but Duffy is rightly considered a prospect for the right reasons i.e. he has ability. There is a reason he is a regular Ireland under 21 and there was a reason he was in the senior Irish squad at 18. He won't be anywhere NEAR the League of Ireland any time soon, except when he's supporting Derry City. That game against Sligo last year? That was his FIRST game back in early-mid August after recovering from nearly dying on the pitch late May the same year. I was at the game and "awful" doesn't quite describe his performance - sure he wasn't up to speed (he nearly died a few weeks earlier, but he almost scored a couple of headers and played well enough considering.). Some lunatics about.
17 Posted 08/01/2012 at 10:41:20
18 Posted 08/01/2012 at 12:05:49
The insults just keep coming, "we have been playing quite well lately" plus "Anichebe is a really important player for us and has the ability to be a top player".
Why would Moyes give Mcfadden probably about 20grand+ a week when he was shit at his best. Billy cost a big fee and big wages and he played central yesterday and he was just as bad as always.
No need for Kenwright to ruin the Club Moyes is doing a good impression. We are in big big trouble with a manager who refuses to change his or the teams style of play. Its getting harder and harder to attend games when the entertainment value is null.
The only game at Goodison were there has been any kind of performance was the Villa game that ended 2 each. Every single result the team has had this season has been achieved under fortunate circumstances.
Its got so bad that the two so called most saleable assetts, Felliani and Rodwell are two of the most average footballers were ever likely to see.
19 Posted 08/01/2012 at 12:31:20
20 Posted 08/01/2012 at 12:39:12
I won't take the bait there, other than to say your comments are in poor taste, and biggoted. I want to keep this about football, Everton and specifically Shane Duffy.
I don't hear many people spouting off about Ryan Giggs captaining England at school boy level. It happens all the time. If you really feel strongly about the issue, write a letter to FIFA, I am sure they will agree with you.
21 Posted 08/01/2012 at 13:36:52
22 Posted 08/01/2012 at 13:42:17
Apologies to the editor for going off on one, but in a long winded way it was to do with Duffy and his international career, so I believe it is relevant.
23 Posted 08/01/2012 at 14:31:26
Since you feel so strongly on the make up of their team, do you also object to Lee Camp "sniding off" to play for Northern Ireland?
24 Posted 08/01/2012 at 15:01:29
@Thomas Surgenor: That's utter babble ? he is playing for his country because he is able and it was always his desire to do so. As if someone has to justify that desire.
@Andrew Edwards: Wow. All players are limited, but Duffy is rightly considered a prospect for the right reasons i.e. he has ability. There is a reason he is a regular Ireland under 21 and there was a reason he was in the senior Irish squad at 18. He won't be anywhere NEAR the League of Ireland any time soon, except when he's supporting Derry City. That game against Sligo last year? That was his FIRST game back in early-mid August after recovering from nearly dying on the pitch late May the same year. I was at the game and "awful" doesn't quite describe his performance ? sure he wasn't up to speed (he nearly died a few weeks earlier). He almost scored a couple of headers and played well enough considering.
25 Posted 08/01/2012 at 15:26:08
26 Posted 08/01/2012 at 18:08:01
27 Posted 08/01/2012 at 18:25:21
28 Posted 08/01/2012 at 18:42:40
29 Posted 08/01/2012 at 18:44:11
30 Posted 08/01/2012 at 21:02:36
31 Posted 08/01/2012 at 21:20:59
32 Posted 08/01/2012 at 22:39:16
33 Posted 09/01/2012 at 00:29:09
34 Posted 09/01/2012 at 08:49:24
35 Posted 09/01/2012 at 12:41:36
36 Posted 09/01/2012 at 12:48:58
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