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Worst Ever Transfer
Quaking at the rumour of Davey Weir returning to Goodison I began to think about the worst ever transfer deals we've done. Reading a book I saw on the Everton Former Players website ? Everton in the 70s ? I came across Harry Catterick's swap deal of a young David Johnson going to Ipswich in exchange for Rod Belfitt. Not the Cat's finest moment! My Dad says selling Bobby Collins was worse than that but can anyone come up with any worse, either selling or buying.
Cameron White, Posted 18/01/2012 at 21:13:42
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http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/2010/09/premiership/top-five-worst-modern-day-signings-everton
To those of you who can't be bovvered to read the whole thing, my picks were
5. Simon Davies
4. Ibrahima Bakayoko
3. Andy Van Der Meyde
2. Brett Angell
1. Per Kroldrup
Fellaini for the price we paid for him.
Lescott for the way it was handled.
Certainly he's the one that Moyes will be remembered for. Per doesn't even come close - we got our money back didn't we?
Keeley was signed from Blackburn, I think, and played half an hour in a derby game game got sent off and was never seen again.
BTW we lost 5-0.
Barrett unfortunately played a lot more than that and was absolute rubbish.
Nyarko on 5 year contract when he only had 4 year work permit was classic too.
Beattie was pretty average for the fee involved.
For examply I could say Slaven bilic as he only played a handful of games.
1) Are you meaning the number of games played?
2) Are you meaning The transfer fee
3) Are you meaning the transfer fee in relation to the fee we sold for?
etc
etc
etc
He was the last huge whipping boy with the Goodison crowd.
And in my lifetime,selling world class players like Gary Lineker and Wayne Rooney for less than their worth I regard as our worst sales.
Joe Royle famously said that he was deceptively quick, by which I think he meant, he's so slow it is unbelievable.
Stefan Rehn, Booby Mimms, Mike Milligan, Neil Adams, John Oster, Silva, Thomas Myhre, Niclas Alexanderson.
Dennis Stevens was a key member of a title-winning side. Collins was a great player - and went on to star for Leeds - but bringing in Stevens, although he was never really a crowd favourite, was surely one of Catterick's master-strokes.
Best bargain by a mile was Richard Gough.
I remember Alexanderson scoring two, and i thought he was going to be the second coming of Trevor Steven!
Nyarko ran the whole match, and scored a back heel, i remember turning to my mate and saying "he's the new Viera".
How wrong can one person be! They were both the biggest piles of turd i can remember seeing in the flesh play for Everton. Although i would say given the fee we paid, Bily is the biggest waste of cash to ever wear the blue shirt.
John Spencer.
Worst ever has to be between Brett Angel, Alec Cleland, Tony Thomas, Carl Tiler and John O'Kane.
Worst non transfer ever was not signing Brian McBride up after his loan spell, although dismissing Demba Ba because of his injury record despite him being a free transfer must push it pretty close.
So much promise and anticipation then.....
diddley!
The day the music died
Worst bit of business? Selling him.
Biggest joke? Bernie (The Bolt) Wright. I still feel embarrassed when I think of him.
Left on a free...
I won't start on the crap players we've brought in...I don't want to squander what rapidly dwindling time I have left on this planet by inducing terminal depression. I'll leave that to you lot and just scan your conclusions.
I can't imagine anyone with more than a single brain cell attempting to bring Dennis Stevens into this thread. Stevens was a player who would walk into our present team. And they used to say Martin Peters was a player "before his time"...
As for Bargain, hands down no competition: Tim Cahill.
It was hilarious at the time anyway!
Big Nigel must be the best buy of the Moyes era. In My time it's got to be Big Dunc. We'd have had no fans left if we hadn't got him.
Carl Tiler
Mitch Ward
Vinnie Samways
Earl Barrett
In fact, virtually anyone we signed in the early 90's!
£100K for possibly the finest player to ever pull on the blue jersey seems truly unbelievable.
Alec Cleland
John Oster
John Spencer
Simon Davies
Terry Phelan
Mitch Ward
Carl Tiler
Marc Hottiger
Claus Thomsen
Alex Nyarko
Paul Gerrard
Bret Angell
Tony Thomas
The Earl of Barrett (Ryan Giggs once said he was one of his most difficult opponents????)
Mitch Ward
Carl Tiler
John Oster
Eddy Bosnar
Li Weifeng
John Spencer
Claus Thomsen
Gareth Farrelly (forgiven though for THAT goal)
the return of Jeffers
Tobias Linderoth
David Ginola
Richard Wright
Steve Simonsen
The single biggest mistake, one Alex Nyarko! Utter utter turd, and the contract mess made it even worse. We had to pay this guy for a year for being shite when he couldn't even play! I could have done that for half the wages!
Thats me depressed now thinking about all the shite I've been exposed to in my 29 years on this earth. I wish I could properly remember the80s!
John, what are you saying, that Stevens was a bad signing? Or a poor replacement for Collins? ANYONE would struggle to take the place of Collins, who remains one of the finest players I've seen in a blue shirt. But Stevens was a very good player in his time at Everton.Don't you mean Brian Harris? He was a contempory of Temple and Stevens. Jimmy Harris, another good player, had left by then. Stevens, incidentally, was an ever present in our Championship side of 62-63 so he couldn't have been that bad a player...
Your inference in your comment @818 is that Stevens was in some way a poor replacement. He wasn't poor, just different.
Marc Hottiger
Tony Thomas
Earl Barrett
Alec Cleland
Graham Allen
Jon O'Connor
Mitch Ward
A list of truly awful right-backs from recent times that makes you consider that maybe Tony Hibbert isn't that bad after all!
He had some decent games for us and was beginning to click when that fucking yard dog hit him!
Aye Rodrigo was terrible - not so much for the football, more for the fact that he broke his leg getting off the plane from Brazil and never played!
For sheer shite, you have to say Per Kroldrup is up there with the best of them. That was just a failure on our part.
Didn't we once sign that Egyptian lad, Ibrahim Said?
What about Idan Tal? I don't even remember if he was good to be fair, seems ages back!
Abel Xavier *shudder*
Kenny Sansom
Mike £1m Milligan
DL - Terry Phelan
DR - Peter Degn
DC - Per Kroldrup
DC - Claus Thomsen
ML - Stephen Hughes
MR - Mitch Ward
MC - Tony Thomas
MC - Alex Nyarko
FC - Bakayoko
FC - James Beattie
Im 27 and too young to remember some mentioned but reading the illustrious list of tubes we have signed over the years is quite funny! i had forgot about many of them but that doesnt excuse how bad they were/are.
Best Bargain - Davy Weir or Stubbsy on free.
Worst - Think its already been covered but I woulg go for Espen Barsdaen.
Claus Thomsen: I can't remember anything of note he ever did. I can't even remember what he looked like. I just remember wincing whenever the ball went anywhere near him.
David Ginola: I remember turning up for his debut and wondering why the fuck Walter was playing Peter Stringfellow on the wing instead.
Per Kroldrup: it's not often you pay £5m for a centre half only to discover after the fact that he can't fucking head the ball. So bad he was binned off after one game.
Jasper Blomqvist: mercurial winger with about as much artistry as the motherfucker who created Dogtanian and the three muskahounds. Another mediocre player living off his 'latterly of Manchester United' label.
Richard Wright: the master of disaster. His decision making was worse than that guy who decided on a whim to taser his bird in the face, stuff her in an old computer box and bury her alive because he was a bit bored of her. He always reminded me of the 'Don't ...' horror films of the video nasty era ('Don't go in the house', 'Don't go in the woods', 'Don't answer the phone' etc) except his were a bit more mundane: 'Don't go in the loft','Don't get out the bath', 'Don't go near the 'wet grass' sign'.
John Spencer: made Mikel Madar look like Marradona.
Danny Williamson: Everton career decimated by injuries. Not his fault, but a massive waste of money.
Brett Angell: and you thought Beckford looked out of his league?
Bily: at a time we couldn't afford to waste any money Moyes splashed £9m on the street urchin from 'Oliver' looking left-sided specialist. Except he can't actually play on the left and he's not really special at anything, unless you count looking like you're shitting yourself as a skill these days. No pace, no power, no sense of positioning, poor first touch, and all the fight of Ned fucking Flanders.
Tony Thomas a close second. So far out of his depth it was untrue.
On the selling side the biggest gaffs where Ball and Rooney but sometimes club politics and players demands come into play.
i question Everton's policies about some players we let go especially defenders the likes of Lescott, Dunn and Keown all of whom have or did become very high consistant performers with other clubs.
Even Materazzi who went to Inter and excelled himself back into the Italian national team.
What is wrong with the Everton set up I wonder?
"Mike Walker once called a press conference to announce the signing of Müller for Everton, only for him to walk out on the club 30 minutes prior upon discovering he had to pay tax on his £20,000 per week wages, and would not be receiving a free house or car."
Can't argue with selections so far but Bernie Wright, Rod Belfitt and Claus Thomsen have to be right up there.
Anyone remember goalkeeper Seamus McDonagh and a follicly challenged left back John McLaughlin?
Stephen Hughes
Bilic
Pistone (was it him who played Alan Shearer 'offside' on a throw?)
Alexanderson and tobias Linderoth hardly set Goodison alight either.
Interesting that the majority of these 'worst signings' appear to be from the Walter era, not that many under Moyes
Have to say I always though Gosling was rather shit, although not the worst.
Idan Tal was typical of the Championship quality players brought in under Smith, but again no worse than a lot of others.
As far as I'm concerned, the worst bit of business in recent memory is Yak to Blackburn for £1.5M, that might just be cos he's scored more goals than the entire Everton squad put together, or thereabouts.
Bugsy Burrows, Tony Thomas, Peter Degn, Vinny Samways, Claus Fucking Thompsen, Per Krøldrup, Niclas Alexandersson, Scot Gemmill, Danny Williamson, Bret Angell, Mo Johnston, Ibrahima Bakayoko, Alex Nyarko, Richard Wright, Steve Simonsen, Andy Van der Meyde, Bily, Tobias Linderoth, Alec Cleland, Mitch Ward, John Oster, Carl Tiler, Earl Barrett, Marc Hottiger all spring to mind as truly awful.
Some even worthy of a second mention, but i can`t bring myself to writing their names twice....
Signed from Oldham in 1990, he was Colin Harvey's last grasp at a replacement for Peter Reid.
£1m and half an hour into his debut at Goodison against Leeds, with Speed, MacAllister, Batty and Strachan passing him by into a 3-0 lead, a fan runs onto the pitch straight for 'Spike' Milligan to politely ask him to pull his effin' finger out!
We got rid about a year later I think and he was never heard of again
Some hilarious posts on here by the way, nice to hear everyone having a bit of a laugh in these grim times!
'So bad you couldn't even sell him on Championship Manager'....fucking genius son!
Oh the memories? Oh the mammaries, more like. What a load of tits...
surely that must take the cake !
A few of the best bits of business for me: -
Selling Rooney - although he was worth more, he'd have been surrounded by shite and the money we got from his sale helped us get into Europe for several years.
Martyn for 500k - best keeper since Southall at Everton.
Lescott for 2.5M and sold for over 20M, good player, better profit.
Kevin Campbell - almost singlehandedly kept us in the Premiership, fuck know where we'd have ended up if we hadn't brought him in on loan. He was like a blue Batman and Jeffers was Robin.
Arteta, Pienaar, Gravesen all for about 2M each. Davey Weir, Richard Gough and Yobo get honourable mentions for not being shit and not costing much either.
In terms of the ones that got away what about Stan Collymore for 8.5 million, gutted that he chose the reds at the time!
Best night in recent memory - knocking the shite out of the cup in the last few minutes.
Shandy crossed & Gosling's shot took two deflections, that made it even sweeter!
From what Ive seen so far Straqualaqua could fall into that category though!
All of the above considered I'm going for Belfit in for Johnson out as the worst business. I know there were other reasons for Johnson being moved on but he was 10 times the footballer that Belfit was and came back to haunt us.
Then we made it worse by getting him back when he was finished, thus removing our moral superiority.
For me, the post of the year so far. I had to explain to the person sitting next to me why I was pissing myself laughing so much.
Quality
"' If this is the School of Science he's the fucking lab rat!'
Got to be the funniest.
Best ever signing - David Moyes
Never said Stevens was a bad player, the discussion is worst ever transfer......in or out! My comment merely suggests that Collins was the worst transfer, and replaced by an inferior player, a bit like Arteta replacing Fabregas.........Stevens wasn't poor, but Collins was genius!
I?ve heard an anecdote whereby he went down injured and the physio went on the pitch to treat him. When the physio came back to the bench, the subs and coaches where laughing and Colin Harvey was shaking his head. The physio asked what was up and Harvey said ?you was supposed to bring Wilson off and leave the sponge on!?
Pistone as well. Friends of mine are quite shocked with there sheer venom that spews from me when his name his mentioned. I absolutely hated him! The only left back I know who?d spend the game more closer to his centre half than the opposing right winger. Think there was a game when Man Utd scored 4 past us and 3 of them came from the right wing. Slow, couldn?t pass, couldn?t tackle, had a twat of facial tache thing ferret on his face and was basically just shit. I could not fucking stand him! For some reason he hit button on me which resulted in a sheer dislike for him!
The best, off the top of my head, £1.5m for Tim Cahill has to be right up there.
James McFadden Mark II?
Billy for the inital cost.
Morrissey
Sheedy
Harper
Brilliant buy was Alex Young who totally captured the support when he arrived.
One of the greatest bits of business - which ended in tears - was buying the fabulous Tony Kay who I reckon would have definetely Captained England.
Biggest FU was letting Roy Vernon go too early
At least we agree on Collins's genius! The impact he had on Leeds was terrific; what a loss he was. His outgoing was a huge mistake, but Stevens's arrival, taken as a transfer as opposed to a replacement, was a good one.
Reading through this thread, there are many comments on good buys as well as bad ones. It's a bit of a bugger that the bad outweigh the good...
Andrei Kanchelskis is surely in one of best signings??
The story goes that one day Kendall went into the showers at Bellefield only to find a turd on the floor. He stormed out to the players and shouted "who's shit on the floor?", to which someone replied "Mick is, Boss, but he's not bad in the air".
Great player Howard and if i remember correct he was our player of the year when we sold him.
Absolutely hilarious
Great shout! That last Howard Kendall side was the worst I've ever seen in over 30 years of following the Blues.
...but I do remember how truly and utterly awful Claus Thompson was (and being appalled that he was allegedly on £10,000 a week!)
Tony Cheek (#946) - if the phrase "carthorse" wasn't invented for Denis Straqualursi, then I don't know what was!
As for Bily not getting a chance, how many games has he started? And how many did he have Every match going blue screaming to get him off and to be fair to Moyes most times he has, but why start him if that is what happens? Did you manage to see him at home the other week getting passed to death by plumbers and carpenters when Moyes played him in his role these lads have wanted him played in, he's shite and had his chance.
Mickey Walsh
Mo Johnson
John Spencer
Alexandersson
Nyarko
Bakayoko
Bilic
Paul Gerrard
Brett Angell
Simon Davies
Richard Wright
Mike Miligan
15 years too late:-
Ginola
Gazza
Sansom
Mark Hughes
Genius.
Worst Buy: Drew Brand I think from Huddersfield, a goalkeeper ? my arse.
Anyway, worst buy and my own biggest disappointment was Mo Johnston. I thought he would score a bagful for us.
The last signing that I thought.. 'Wow.. glad we got him!' (Obviously the Southalls, Fergusons, go without saying.)
Worst... still a work in progress... but I reckon if you logged into Toffeeweb in a few years.,Fellaini will be the biggest waste of money & wages the club would have known!
Just going an interesting piece on Harvey's signings, Liverpool spent the Rush money (3.2 million) on Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge and Houghton, Harvey spent the Lineker money on Cottee, Neil Macdonald and Mike Milligan, that is where the rot started for me.
For the money we paid, in the position he was signed in, Ian Snodin.
Yes, Maurice Johnston!! Kendall in decline. Mark Ward says in his book that he took a couple of looks at MoJo in training and thought, your gone, was rooming with him at the time and pretty much told him so.
Anyone said Amokachi, cant remember, i he was shite!!
Full agreement as you may guess!!
Peter Beardssley and Paul Gascoigne went for approximately the same cash as Cottee, and we ended up with TC.
I remember the Echo article heralding Mike Milligans signing, "Colin harvey has signed himself". Out of his depth and fucked off back to Oldham by Kendall pronto.
I was very disappointed when Marco Materazzi went and of course everyone was heartbroken when Alan Ball was sold, including Bally.
The worst piece of business we ever did in my opinion was selling Duncan McKenzie to Chelsea. For me that closed down the School of Science era.
Even in the mid-80s we never had anyone with the same pure talent including Gary Lineker but McKenzie rightly demanded absolute freedom on the field and then manager Gordon Lee wouldn't give him his head.
RB - Peter Degn
LB - Alessandro Pistone
CB - Per Kroldrup
CB - Claus Thomsen
RW - Niclas Alexandersson
LW - Ian Wilson
CM - Billy
CM - Mark Pembridge
CF - Bakayoko
CF - Brett Angel
Subs:
Paul Gerrard
Mitch Ward
Li Weifeng
John Oster
Mike Milligan
Michael Branch
Stuart Barlow
Don't have nightmares!
Claus Thomsen was fucking tragic though.
6 goals in 19 games for the Blues, and then moved on.
Not quite in the same league as Brett Angel in terms of complete shiteness surely?!
Funny that his bio on here states one of his weaknesses as being that he was "too classy".
Maybe that was Claus Thomsen's problem too?
Maybe not.
I'll get me coat.
Might be bollocks but I like it.
Be afraid!
Spot on. Poor old Keeleys Everton career lasted for 27 lamentable minutes
The Pembridge shout is harsh as he turned into a decent player in the end too.
Neville Southall and Graeme Sharp have to be two of the best signings we ever made.
I hope the people who write in to Toffeeweb saying things like the present side is the worst they've seen in 60 years have had their memories jogged by this thread...
Alan Ball had personal (financial) problems I believe so any signing on fee was meant to sort that out.
In the spirit of knowing my history would anyone care to elaborate of the story of Bernie 'the bolt' Wright? Sounds hilariously bad. Everyone on here who remembers him seems to be unanimous. Why was he so terrible?
I'd like to give a mention to Slaven Bilic. Great player for West Ham and I was delighted when he signed for us for £4.5 million. Unfortunately he seemed to be booked every week, spent almost a quarter of the season suspended, got injured, and was allowed to go back to Zagreb where Everton continued to pay him £27,000 a week to sit and do nothing, other than train with the national team and turn out for them against Ireland. We then paid off his remaining contract for a further £1 million!
Regarding Bernie Wright, I never saw him play... so I get all my information from the book I mentioned in my OP, "Everton in the 1970s" ? available via the EFPF website with all money going to them, so a good cause.
Bernie was signed from Walsall for £35,000 a few days after playing against us in the FA Cup. He made his debut against Liverpool as a sub and his full debut at Old Trafford. In all, he played 10 games plus one as sub and scored twice including a diving header against West Ham. Reading the match reports in the book he also hit the post a couple of times so I can't believe he was as bad as Big Brett who I did see play, unfortunately.
Part of Bernie's legend comes from the way he left Everton, sacked after turning up drunk for training where he alledgedly punched one of the coaches. He eventually rejoined Walsall.
Now there's a man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time... his mother's womb!!!
Mitch Ward was a poor player, but to me, the poorest I ever seen was Kevin Langley, woefully out of his depth!!
Bought for a then record fee from Tranmere Rovers when Peter Johnson controlled both clubs.
If I recall correclt, shortly afterwards Johnson exited Goodison...
... a very clever of way moving £3.3m Mr. Johnson! (allegedly)
£4.5m quid and signed when Dave Watson was caretaker manager
Who knows, maybe we could add Landon as one of the good transfer-ins.
Not true. I remember being unfortunate enough to travel to Villa Park on a cold December night (think it was 2005??), only to witness Kroldrup has the back ripped out of him by Baros and one of the Moore brothers (forget which one). Absolutely shocking player - we always shout from the stands "I can do better than that!" - he's one example of where it's totally true!
As for the rest, Christ!! I've been reading this thread through my fingers at times! Ian Wilson, Cleland, Pembridge, Degn, Tony Thomas, Linderoth all get notable mentions. Jesus, Walter Smith signed some shite!!!
Barrett was incredibly shite, I remember when we bought him the joke was the only Barrett anyone shifted (houses at the time joke). Brett Angel couldn't hit a barn door and later genuinely got fitted with contact lenses. Peter Degn, Carl Tiler, Claus Thompson, Stephen Hughes, Alex Nyarko, Linderoth, Alexanderson (shit for us but ok for Sweden?), Lei Weifeng (Lie Tie's mate), Gareth Farrelly, Stracqualarsi, Bilyetdinov, Kroldrup (yes he was dogshit against Villa), Milligan, Simonsen, Richard Wright (rhymes with shite), it just goes on and on
My God!
Some hilarious comments in this thread, but I laughed so hard reading the above my wife came downstairs to see if I was OK.
The players named were THAT bad? I'm still laughing typing this.
Krøldrup - summer 2005, his £5 million would have bought Darren Bent and Nolberto Solano and Kevin Doyle, and left change. Whatever you may think of them individually, as a job lot they would certainly have strengthened the squad. I know none of them could play centre half but then, apparently, neither could Krøldrup.
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796 Posted 19/01/2012 at 01:49:45
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No wait; too soon. Selling Jack Rodwell.
No, er.... selling Joelon Lescott.
And selling Wayne Rooney
And selling Alan Ball
And selling Tommy Lawton