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Dale Jennings

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FM Credits to all those who fingered Tranmere's Dale Jennings as a potential prospect... One for the future ? at least that's what Bayern Munchen believe...

And then there's Nick Armitage, who famously stated:

It is not all bad.

The Pienaar money is going on Dale Jennings in the summer.

And that is a fact.


Michael Kenrick, ToffeeWeb Towers     Posted 04/07/2011 at 20:40:42

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John Audsley
1   Posted 04/07/2011 at 20:55:35

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Doddy always makes similar factual comments about last minute signings and transfer window guarantees

and they always turn out to be total lies

I would be interested to see who Nicks source is though
Brian Lawlor
2   Posted 04/07/2011 at 21:17:14

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I've only ever fingered birds, mate...
Brian Lawlor
3   Posted 04/07/2011 at 21:20:45

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By the way Michael, while you commenting on people in the know, what about my claim in mailbag in November 2009 that pienaar was leaving due to a stalemate on salary and that he was demanding 75k per week for which i was mocked. Or the fact that i stated on numerous occasions he was going to Spurs months before he did?
James Stewart
4   Posted 04/07/2011 at 21:28:11

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Fantastic move for him. Understudy to Robben and Ribery, not a bad pair to learn from!

You have to wonder why we didn't go for him sooner. Pacey winger with a cracking shot on him obviously not the kind of player our scouts are looking for. Now maybe if he could play DM and CB as well we would have been like a fly round shit around him

Depressing... but good luck to him ? amazing step up.
Trevor Mackie
5   Posted 04/07/2011 at 22:38:29

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Saw his wonder goal on telly beating player after player and thought Man Utd or the RS would be in for him ? I knew we wouldn't ? skill don't live here anymore.

Please god he makes it at Bayern. I'm fed up of skilled players floundering in our leagues ? how that lad Adam Johnson doesn't get a game at City mystifies me... most skillful English player bar none... another one drifting away.
Chris Bannantyne
6   Posted 04/07/2011 at 22:51:01

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Our club is run by idiots.
David Hallwood
7   Posted 04/07/2011 at 23:25:31

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Rumour has it that he has discipline problems off the field
Russell Buckley
8   Posted 05/07/2011 at 00:02:42

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I'm Australian and I'll admit I've never seen Dale with football boots on let alone kick a ball but this does seem strange.

How is it that this kid has had people talking about him for some time, apparently has skill and speed, but but slips through our net?

Liverpool released him at 15 and he still decides to play his football in Liverpool. Right under the noses of our scouts and yet I hate to say it but a bigger club think he is good enough.

How much did he cost?
Dennis Stevens
9   Posted 05/07/2011 at 00:13:57

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Apparently Tranmere turned down offers from at least one Prem club back in January, although it does seem unlikely we'd have been in a position to make a move for the lad.
James Stewart
10   Posted 05/07/2011 at 01:12:43

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@9 says 600k rising to 1.8M in The Guardian so should have been in our budget.
Eric Myles
11   Posted 05/07/2011 at 02:45:11

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^James, we can't even afford 300,000 for a back up goalie.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Everton-Wigan-transfer-news-Moyes-struggling-find-4-5m-N-Zogbia-down-payment-must-sell-Yobo-Yakubu-raise-funds-article746955.html

KENWRIGHT OUT
Steve Leary
12   Posted 05/07/2011 at 02:51:49

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Don't worry Bill will be working 24/7 on a deal, right Doddy?
David Barks
13   Posted 05/07/2011 at 04:56:46

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Well apparently every other fucking club in England "missed out" on the kid too. So I guess they're just as shit as us.
Russell Buckley
14   Posted 05/07/2011 at 05:35:00

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My question if a club like Bayern Munich want him why wasn't he picked up by an English club?

It can't be because he was too expensive.
Lynn Thorne
15   Posted 05/07/2011 at 06:44:04

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A German sports reporter on Talksport has said he will most likely to have been signed for Bayern's second team.
They have one that plays in the equivalent of our Division 1.
He also said there was little news of it over there, so not as big as you all think
Brian Keating
16   Posted 05/07/2011 at 08:29:29

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Has it occured to any of you slaggin off our scouts, Kenwright etc. that the reason he didn't sign for Everton was that he wanted to go to Bayern himself? How do you know Everton didn't make a bid and get knocked back?

Damning Everton for not signing this lad is ridiculous. I've lost count of how many times there's been campaigns on here to sign gifted youngsters and boyhood Everton fans. Not a single one of them has turned out to be world class, or even premiership class. So maybe the scouts are doing something right.
Steve Pugh
17   Posted 05/07/2011 at 08:38:20

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David Moyes, throughout his tenure, has said that players personalities must fit in with the ethos of the club.

Maybe these players that we don't buy would damage the team, and we rely on the team being greater than the sum of the players.
Karl Meighan
18   Posted 05/07/2011 at 08:37:52

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Good look to the kid its a great move but it leaves me wondering why no English club wanted him? If were failing to spot good young talent that are only across a river what games and players are Evertons scouts watching?

This is a embarrasment to all Premier League clubs. From Evertons point of view its strange that were willing to gamble 9m on a Russian alien to this country to play in a wide position yet a young kid who one of Europes biggest clubs think has something who is also on the doorstep is overlooked at a time when we dont have a pot to piss in.
Karl Meighan
19   Posted 05/07/2011 at 08:51:53

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Brian@16 Its always the same with young kids only a small percent make it to the top but you still have to give them the platform.

What annoys me is that we are skint so are best hope is surely to bring in young talent, the first step to that is picking up all the local prospects then looking further across the world. The question i would like answering is not why we aren't signing this lad now but how are Tranmere beating us to young players when we are supposed to be a club were kids get there chance?

I accept we wont get them all but i presume this kid was big news from a young age and no disrespect to Tranmere this young lad should of been learning at Everton or the RS.

There are a few Liverpool lads playing Premier League football but how many of them started at Everton or across the park. Its poor imo that we are told the club searches the world for young players yet we dont seem to have got it right on the doorstep.
Andrew Ellams
20   Posted 05/07/2011 at 09:15:00

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Surely this is about as big as Everton signing Silva, Velios or Gueye. So basically, not very big at all unless you are Dale Jennings
Peter Laing
21   Posted 05/07/2011 at 09:44:09

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Fact:? Until Joseph Yobo or Yakubu go through the exit door, we are very unlikely to see any arrivals.

Every pre-season is the same: Moyes makes a statement that he wants his business done early, we endure a summer of inactivity, we start the season poorly. Kenwright continues to keep hold of his train set and the same shit is recycled. I'm totally bored of the situation and, to be honest, I couldn't give a flying fuck anymore.

Eugene Ruane
22   Posted 05/07/2011 at 10:05:58

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Peter Laing (21), sadly, I can't disagree with any of that.

(well, I suppose I could disagree...but it would only be on whether any Yak or Yobo money would actually be spent on players rather than paying banks).

Still on a positive note, good to see Brian Lawlor has 'fingered birds mate'.

Can't wait for his next post informing us he can do wheelies on his chopper and knows a place where there's 'a songie's nest full of eggs'.
Ryan Rosenberg
23   Posted 05/07/2011 at 11:33:50

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It's okay, if this new Derry winger signs, our wide problem is solved...
Jonathan Tasker
24   Posted 05/07/2011 at 13:11:24

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Is there anyone in the World who believes that Yakubu is 28?!!!!!!!

Seems pretty clear that we have to sell before we can buy. I would sell Rodwell since he may generate some serious money but did not feature that often last season.
James Stewart
25   Posted 05/07/2011 at 14:48:32

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@18 Karl, spot on: the Bily transfer looks more and more stupid with every passing day. Especially given our current finances. What happened to the Pienaar money as well?!
Alex Foxx
26   Posted 05/07/2011 at 16:48:00

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Though I can understand the frustration in spending what little money the club does have on the likes of Silva, it is really the only way forward for a club in our position. I'd rather the club bought four untested youngsters then spend, say 3 million, on someone like Wes Brown. With this in mind I hope the club's been keeping a good look on the the U17 World Cup.

Forget about Jennings ? If we're talking about future prospects and engaging in some FM then sell Yakubu and sign up Ivory Coast's Souleymane Coulibaly: 9 goals in 4 games at the U17 World Cup. Yes, he'll probably be the next Florent Sinama Pongolle... but you won't see many better hat-tricks than this:

http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/highlights/video/video=1461970/index.html

Our own Hallam Hope had a decent tournament as well actually ? 2 goals for an England side that got knocked out predictably in the Quarters.
Paul Doyle
27   Posted 05/07/2011 at 17:00:24

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Eric @ #11 ? "we can't afford 300k for a back-up goalie" ? we haven't got 300 to sort out the wall on Walton Lane!
Brian Waring
28   Posted 05/07/2011 at 17:27:52

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David Barks, you need to calm down a bit mate. Nearly every thread you post on lately, is done with a lot of anger.
Gavin Ramejkis
29   Posted 05/07/2011 at 19:19:36

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Brian #16 ? has it occured to you that maybe we didn't bid for him as Kenshite is a useless chairman with sewn up pockets giving Moyes fuck all to buy players with?
Dave Wilson
30   Posted 05/07/2011 at 19:48:39

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"A songies nest" . . Gorra be 45 years since I heard that one.

Brilliant
Daniel J Johnson
31   Posted 05/07/2011 at 22:12:59

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Has anyone actually seen him play? If so; is he any good?
Mark Pierpoint
32   Posted 05/07/2011 at 22:28:56

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Has anyone seen him play? apparently he went off the boil at the second half of the year. I remember wishing that we signed Tranmere's other star, Jason Koumas for years, and what come of him?

I hope he makes it at Bayern, I really do. Facts are though at 600k raising to 1.8M (if he makes it), he is no more than a Joao Silva for Bayern ? an affordable gamble. If he was the next big thing, I am sure he would have more options on the table than Bayern Munich.
Adam Fenlon
33   Posted 06/07/2011 at 01:46:51

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Bayern's 2nd team (where he is going), play in the fourth tier of German football after being relegated from the third last year.

If he works out, the Shite might feel a bit aggrieved for letting him go ? nothing to do with us whatsoever though. But don't let that stop the whinging, of course!
Eric Myles
34   Posted 06/07/2011 at 02:51:26

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Academic now Paul #27, Leeds got him for 200k:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Leeds-set-beat-Everton-to-sign-Preston-keeper-Andy-Lonergan-in-200k-deal-article759917.html

KENWRIGHT OUT!!!
Stephen Kenny
35   Posted 06/07/2011 at 09:20:11

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The kid has one of the worst attitudes in youth football and was let go by the club and Liverpool, the fact he's gone to Bayern will suprise no-one at Everton as they all knew how good he was.

They tired of his terrible attitude and reckoned he weren't worth the bother. Only time will tell whether it was a good decision.

Bear in mind he's only scored a few good goals at a low level.

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