I'm not convinced David Moyes really knows what he's doing. Let me explain:
We needed forwards last season and we sent the Yak on loan after he had looked the fittest he'd ever been after his injury. Vaughan, who would run through a brick wall for Everton too, was put out on loan.
Yet he kept and increased the wages of Victor Anichebe, who plays like a poor version of Heskey. Moyes took 26 games to give Beckford a run in the team, and shoved Osman out wide after his best ever performances in central midfield to accommodate his favourites.
Although Coleman played well in the position Moyes put him, his best position is right back, but he dare not upset his favourites; we could have both full backs racing up and claiming assists, scoring occasionally too, allowing a midfielder to occupy a midfield spot.
Can't Moyes see what all the crowd can see? Playing with two up front (even just for home games) makes a difference. Why play the game for the point we start with? When we go behind with one up front, Moyes has to change formation and tactics to regain the point, so why doesn't his brain tell him he could start with this formation and tactics and win more games??? It's common sense and you don't need a coaching badge to understand.
What I really don't understand is he has bought well (most of the time) in the transfer market and he usually gets players who are attack minded and then stops them playing to their strengths has he no confidence in himself or his players (I do of the latter).
So here we go ? another season about to start, all filled with hope. I would like to see both the chairman and the manager go, but I would love to be proven wrong about them with a trophy or two and a top 4 place. Oh déjà vu...
Paul Knox, Posted 19/07/2011 at 13:47:16
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1 Posted 19/07/2011 at 16:30:44
It's common sense and you don't need a coaching badge to understand.
Maybe that's where you are going wrong.
2 Posted 19/07/2011 at 17:10:28
As for Vaughan and Yak, they're not good enough. Which is why they will most likely end up playing for clubs below us in the league. Anichebe is in the same boat but Moyes recognises the use of his tremendous physical assets.
3 Posted 19/07/2011 at 17:25:15
4 Posted 19/07/2011 at 17:19:57
Coleman is not good enough for right back and I find him to be a one trick pony, run Forest run...says it all.
No idea with Victor, there must be some incriminating photos of Moyes out there.
It's not the two up front that changes the game, it's the opposition not going forward as much that allows us to pressure them more and try and get back level.
"usually gets players who are attack minded and then stops them playing to their strengths" - Who?
5 Posted 19/07/2011 at 18:05:20
6 Posted 19/07/2011 at 18:09:38
If these were the only two that clubs came in for, then they were the ones who had to go. Moyes wouldn,t have let Beckford go and I doubt anyone would have come in for Anichebe.
7 Posted 19/07/2011 at 18:17:25
Anichebe is just plain shite at this level, drop him a league or two and he'll find his level, Sam what physical assets his punching the ground after he falls over or the way he holds his lower back like he is pregnant?
8 Posted 19/07/2011 at 20:38:51
Mistakes, yes, like anyone but a lot less than others also.
9 Posted 19/07/2011 at 21:45:40
Could be a year, therefore, before we see any meaningful activity (1st choice signings) and, hence, 2011-12 may well be DM's last season.
10 Posted 19/07/2011 at 22:04:11
Yeh wouldnt we all, but if youre measuring Moyes or any other manager outside of the moneyed elite based on that, youre in dreamworld. Nobody does this without heavy investment. Moyes has done us proud.
We can all agree on Anichebe, but do remember before this arrogant child claimed he was worth a big money contract last summer, he was actually an asset for us. It was only last season, (after someone convinced him he's a better player than he is) that we see an incompetant stumbling clown. There was no reason for Moyes not to resign him based on his form prior to last season. Could anyone honestly predict that he would be so piss poor?
11 Posted 19/07/2011 at 22:38:39
12 Posted 19/07/2011 at 22:25:22
We don't figure at all, Moyes can live in this "filler" part of the division till he decides he wants to go.
If we were ambitious and had some money I'd cack myself having Moyes trying to buy forwards, but neither applies.
As it stands he can do what the fuck he likes as long as he stays in the division - that's where we are.
But I'm too long in the tooth to pretend it's anything but shite.
13 Posted 19/07/2011 at 22:47:29
14 Posted 19/07/2011 at 22:56:28
15 Posted 19/07/2011 at 23:28:47
And boy did the Bloomfield Road faithful get entertained last year. I wish I could say the same for ourselves!
I'm not advocating a gung-ho approach to games - just a little more positivity, particularly at home. I'm not talking formation (4-4-2 vs 4-5-1 isn't the issue), it's about committing players forward when we're attacking... getting more than one or two players in and around the box - something Moyes seems loathed to do it would seem.
16 Posted 20/07/2011 at 00:21:40
17 Posted 20/07/2011 at 02:09:15
18 Posted 20/07/2011 at 03:53:38
"I'm not convinced David Moyes really knows what he's doing".
As opposed to your experience managing at the EPL level? Enlighten the rest of us.
You don't like how he does things? Fine. That I get. But the guy whose never had Top 4 money keeping us at our place mid-table (however frustrating to us all) has assembled a good team these last 2-3 seasons. If he hadn't, we would have finished further down the Table.
Try this: 1. The young kids develop. They do or they don't right? Let's say they do.
2. Yak realizes he's on his last big-money contract and the "What about poaching that Yakuba from Everton" days are over.
3. Saha gives us half a full-health season.
4. Beckford sat at home and thought, "Jesus, I'm in the EPL. I can actually make a huge chunk of money> I have to improve.
I focused on our strike force because it's the only deficiency we have while having the players who can deliver.
Let's come out hot. We know we improve as the season goes.
Get out the gate fast, gents.
19 Posted 20/07/2011 at 08:52:47
Moyes has us finishing 7th, another season where we're only bettered by teams with huge cheque books. He consistently has us higher than clubs with similar resources.....yet apparently he doesnt know what he's doing.
I can absolutely understand the passion and desire for more, and to challenge for euro places, but I lament the short sightedness of people who think theres better to be had from another manager under the current board. There are no examples anywhere of managers doing better under similar constraints. Moyes is our biggest asset.
20 Posted 20/07/2011 at 09:43:38
21 Posted 20/07/2011 at 12:43:08
Thanks for bringing some humour into the same old comments, and your correct as well.
22 Posted 20/07/2011 at 12:53:38
Just because Paul has never managed a Premier League team does not mean he does not have the right to opine on Moyes' abilities.
And no matter how often you claim our "only deficiency" is the lack of a top class striker, it doesn't make it true. Put Tevez or Villa in that team and they still wouldn't be able to cover for:
A keeper who inspires no confidence in his back four.
A right full (take your pick of either) who can kindly be described as having limited footballing ability.
A centre half prone to lapses in concentration which is masked by his pace.
A midfield devoid of any real width, pace and creativity (Arteta on his day - which is all too rare - being the exception to the latter)
I could go on but those are just some examples of deficiencies.
23 Posted 20/07/2011 at 13:13:13
He fails to notice the failings of the likes of Arteta, Neville and Anichebe. He gets rid of one injury-prone striker, AJ, and then signs sicknote. Playing 4-5-1 at home to the likes of Wigan. Vaughan scores 2 goals in 3 games on his return to the first team then is offloaded again on loan. He takes 3 months to notice that Coleman deserves to start games. In the FA Cup Final, he decides to play a long ball system against the best midfield in the Premier League...
It's bloody hypocritical how his apologists can come on here giving him praise, thus some becoming armchair managers, yet his critics can't. Expect another disappointing season this year as I believe it's impossible that Moyes can change things around.
24 Posted 20/07/2011 at 14:36:49
Money and a good manager and chairman will.
Moyes is a good manager - why d'you think every one of the other managers regards him so highly, yet certain Evertonians don't for no good reason?
Moyes bashing is ridiculous. Be careful what you wish for.
25 Posted 20/07/2011 at 14:44:55
Oh, and players like Anichebe should be used to make glue.
26 Posted 20/07/2011 at 16:20:06
I think we will struggle if Arteta gets injured, especially now that Pienaar has gone, because we don't have any other flair players. To infuriate me more, no doubt we'll wait until the end of the transfer window and we'll splash out on someone not half as good as Manny (unless we get N'Zogbia!).
27 Posted 20/07/2011 at 16:30:14
28 Posted 20/07/2011 at 17:31:11
29 Posted 20/07/2011 at 17:36:22
Agree regards Bily, but Moyes transfer dealings in the main are impressive over the years.
I hope and trust he's got his eye on another bargain like Pienaar, funded by a portion of the proceeds from recent sales - being optimistic.
30 Posted 20/07/2011 at 20:08:44
I would suggest that if the coaches had been swapped Blackpool would have been safe and we would have had the best and most exciting, entertaining season for years.
31 Posted 20/07/2011 at 21:18:08
And the point being, we are still in the fight whilst Blackpool are being dismembered.
I dont like the crap, but I do like being in the hunt, even if only in my realistic dreams.
32 Posted 20/07/2011 at 23:27:22
33 Posted 21/07/2011 at 03:00:04
What's holding you up with your examples? Just a discussion board. Only takes a few minutes. Name names (And not with Arteta "qualifications").
You slagged 5 of the positions on the pitch. Sounds like the description of a relegation side.
34 Posted 21/07/2011 at 03:20:20
Clue less dickheads like yourself.
I'm just saying . . .
35 Posted 21/07/2011 at 09:08:00
Our keeper is Tim Howard. Our two right fulls are Phil Neville and Tony Hibbert. The centre half prone to lapses in concentration is Sylvain Distin. Our midfield which is, in my opinion, devoid of the necessary width, pace and creativity to make us real contenders consists of Fellaini, Osman, Bilyaletdinov, Arteta, Cahill, Coleman, Rodwell etc.
I am not for one moment inferring we are a relegation side. My point is that having a top class striker / strike force is far from being our "only deficiency".
Agree 100% it is a discussion board. Which is why resorting to calling someone a "clueless dickhead" is unnecessary and doesn't reflect well on anyone.
36 Posted 22/07/2011 at 05:50:42
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