The Bill Kenwright aologists have a point about the lack of protest... So:
When the ref blows the whistle for our first league game at Goodison Park, every man who is against the current regime should leave their seat for the first five minutes and go downstairs.
The lack of a meaningful protest, in the face of the shambolic way in which we are being run, is a disgrace.
Anyone got any better ideas?
Andrew Earlam, Posted 27/07/2011 at 19:42:05
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1 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:26:10
Which ever way you look the Kenwright Legacy is there to see............christ it should have been the Kings Dock.
2 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:30:04
3 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:24:46
4 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:30:42
5 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:31:27
6 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:36:45
All you'll end up doing is demotivating the team 5 minutes into a new season!
Don't get me wrong, something should be done, but I personally don't think this idea will work.
7 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:36:46
8 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:40:47
9 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:43:11
10 Posted 27/07/2011 at 20:58:27
"Tony Pullis is really looking forward to Stoke's first European game, but he told us that he has transfer targets on his mind at the present also".
11 Posted 27/07/2011 at 21:11:27
12 Posted 27/07/2011 at 21:18:50
For example, I remember when Lazio fans completely cleared their terrace for 20 minutes then all started running back in and singing as a protest. It would never happen at GP but people would start to take notice.
13 Posted 27/07/2011 at 21:13:13
I would admire those leaders among us who did, but my honest view is I think most of us are lazy sheep.
Of course my own protest at not going or spending a single penny on the club as it stands won't be everyone's cuppa but I suspect if enough did the same it might focus the attention of Billy and Co.
14 Posted 27/07/2011 at 21:15:30
Why would it be? It's not going to inspire anybody is it? Like the bemused, rabbit in the headlights, look permanently burnt onto Bilyaletdinov's face is suddenly going to vanish and be replaced by a steely grimace of determination due to half the ground fucking off out their seats for five minutes?
Whilst I'm not against some form of protest, I believe that this proposal would be both counter-productive and impractical.
15 Posted 27/07/2011 at 21:40:18
Or if a group of fans were selling red bricks outside the store (or therabouts) for fans donate to the Club, who would buy one?
This would at least serve a purpose of providing the raw materials to fill in the embarrassing hole in the wall at the Park End. I can see them now all neatly laid at the foot of Dixie's statue with a few bags of sand and cement and the contact details of local bricky's offering their time for free.
16 Posted 27/07/2011 at 22:30:21
Andrew, I understand and appreciate your passion but I think if your idea was successful it could lead to an undignified stampede; if unsuccessful an embarrassing damp squib.
17 Posted 27/07/2011 at 22:45:50
18 Posted 27/07/2011 at 22:58:07
19 Posted 27/07/2011 at 23:40:14
People posting on Toffeeweb have had all they can take at this point and the general fan base isn't happy.
But go and take a look at sites like Bluekipper. The vast majority of people over there are still positive and shout down any fan who dares to call out their beloved Bill.
20 Posted 28/07/2011 at 00:06:01
Could all the multi-millionaires who have had their approaches to buy or even invest in Everton turned down by Kenwright please form an orderly queue and make yourself known. Oh sorry, I have forgotten, he must have made them all sign a confidentially agreement forbidding them to discuss their failed bid.
His mistakes are well documented over and over again on here and on other Everton websites. With perfect hindsight we can all see what a disaster the failure of the Kings Dock was, but not one of us can say that it would have been a categorical success. What if building costs would have escalated, leaving us with even less money available for players that enabled us to maintain our status in the top league? What if Kenwright would have sold his controlling interest to Paul Gregg and then Greg could have hawked Everton and the Kings Dock stadium off to the highest bidder who could have turned out to be a corrupt money laundering crook. Where would this have left Everton?
The point I am attempting to make here is that everything is not as clear-cut as it may seem. I am not defending Kenwright, far from it ? but some of the abuse I have read on here directed towards a fellow blue is not becoming for the best fans of any football club I know.
I can understand the frustration and the anger of many fans and I can also understand the determination of many to want to do something about it. But talk of boycotting games, walking out of games and not buying club merchandise is only going to damage the club. Short term pain for long term gain! I think not.
21 Posted 28/07/2011 at 00:06:27
I get my seat just in time for the kick-off, not going back downstairs again. Banners is the way to go... if you can sneak them past the stewards.
22 Posted 28/07/2011 at 00:43:30
23 Posted 28/07/2011 at 01:17:08
24 Posted 28/07/2011 at 01:19:48
Can't agree. The players know better than us this team will be broken up for 2012-2013. Finance will dictate that. And they respect Moyes and us.
I'm way over here and don't know the temper of Goodison-going fans. But a 5 minute display of dis-satisfaction, as Andrew proposes, will do more than any scarf-wearing nonsense would.
Andrew - If I was a match-goer, I'd follow your suggestion.
25 Posted 28/07/2011 at 03:33:48
Stand up, turn your back, and then moon the directors box.
26 Posted 28/07/2011 at 08:00:29
love the team. Sack the board.
Hence supporting the team, whilst getting the message across.
27 Posted 28/07/2011 at 07:20:45
I've not renewed my ticket and got a phone call askin me why? Told them I was bored of that question.
28 Posted 28/07/2011 at 08:15:00
Protests are fine but you must have an alternative otherwise it?s completely pointless as winning achieves nothing other than devaluing the club and making the players have an excuse for failure. Protest when you have another candidate to take over ? it would be far more practical, but then again looking at the attitude of some people on this site they probably haven?t looked that far ahead.
If you do protest I?m certain you will be shouted down by the majority of fans, not because we like BK but we understand our predicament. Please go and talk with a Birmingham fan and see how they feel today!! COYB.
29 Posted 28/07/2011 at 09:05:41
30 Posted 28/07/2011 at 10:28:33
31 Posted 28/07/2011 at 10:30:05
"Could all the multi-millionaires who have had their approaches to buy or even invest in Everton turned down by Kenwright please form an orderly queue and make yourself known. Oh sorry, I have forgotten, he must have made them all sign a confidentially agreement forbidding them to discuss their failed bid. "
Do you honestly think that these people would run to the press saying that we are overpriced.Get real man they just move on and buy into The Premiership for what they consider a fair price.This nonsense is a complete and utter falicy and would explain why they get no further than an enquiry.
32 Posted 28/07/2011 at 10:37:25
33 Posted 28/07/2011 at 10:35:12
If you went downstairs at kick off, would that mean you might be served by half time?
The other thing, aside from the obvious safety issues, is that returning to your seats 5 mins after kick off, even for 2nd half, you'll still be before most of the directors, sponsors lounge guests etc, who normally finish their pudding/half time coffees, around then.
34 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:01:42
35 Posted 28/07/2011 at 09:47:13
Imagine young children being trapped on the steps while thousands of angry young men charged up and down ? And not calling fellow Evertonians idiotic names like apologist might be seen as a step in that direction.
Calls to arms by individuals merely invite other individuals to come up with what they consider "better" ideas.
Going by this thread alone you wouldnt know whether to:
Get up and leave your seat.
Smuggle in banners.
Run back singing - provided you could get downstairs in the first place
Stand and chant at the board.
Turn your backs
Sit with the arl lazy fuckers and try to figure out who are the protesters and who are the guys who just needs a beer
Or vote with your feet and dont go near the fucken place.
do you see ?
This board simply HAS to go, but by showing oursleves to be a disorganised rabble we give them all the amunition they need to dismiss any protest as the actions of a "few malcontents"
Fuck this "grow some balls" bravado. its your brains you need.
Choose leaders, passionate Evertonians who care.
Let them come up with forms of protest, trust them and support them.
Stop this half witted name calling, its divisive and will kill any chance of a strong unified protest.
One group of fans protesting in a peaceful but headline grabbing manner
Ellect your leaders guys. The trust them to come up with the ideas, ones that dont jeopordise the safety of others
36 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:20:28
37 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:35:28
38 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:42:07
39 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:47:25
40 Posted 28/07/2011 at 11:49:08
Usually I'd be buying a ticket for the lower glawdys, fucking love that place! But desperate times and all that, so any other non-season ticket holders who still go to many matches a season, and who are against Bill Kenwright destroying our club feel free to meet up with me pre-game (Croft's social maybe?) and i'll bring the banner and we can sit/stand on the front rows of the upper glawdys and show the banner.
firstname.lastname@example.org is my email adress, might be a stupid thing to give my email adress away, but without communication nothing get's done. Anybody interested in joining me drop me a line, and hopefully word will spread. I'm 17 and as it stands all I'll have to live off is glory stories from the past from my dad and his dad, and as great as it is to hear about Andy Gray flying through the air to head the ball more or less out the Watford keeper's hands, I want to see Everton Football Club back were they belong! I'll be in Ireland untill Monday with my girlfriend (A Villa fan herself!) so won't be able to reply if anyone messages me, but like I say, nothing will get done on forum's.
'NO INVESTMENT, NO HOPE, KENWRIGHT; IF YOU LOVE US, LEAVE US. NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM.'
41 Posted 28/07/2011 at 12:00:40
Make no mistake, the crucial games at home (QPR, Villa and Wigan) will be tough, all will come and sit back and come for a point, should we fail to break these down and atleast pick up 2 win and a draw, then anything less is not acceptable and action and voices must be heard towards BK.
42 Posted 28/07/2011 at 13:32:38
43 Posted 28/07/2011 at 13:36:49
44 Posted 28/07/2011 at 13:31:15
We as Evertonians naturally go into our shells after a couple of decent results; this season we must make the collective effort to change that ? or be prepared for more of the same boring bullshit for YET another season.
45 Posted 28/07/2011 at 14:12:51
46 Posted 28/07/2011 at 14:54:41
47 Posted 28/07/2011 at 15:59:53
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