When Jack Rodwell first came on the scene, he was a young centre-back helping us out in our time of need. He's since played wide on the right, wide on the left, and centre midfield, and not really shown outstanding form.
With the young lad Smalling of Man Utd (who also is a centre-back) performing so well at right back, is it possible our boy could do as good a job in that position for us? Some extra height in the back four would certainly be welcomed and, if Baines is not available for Saturday, maybe a back four of Rodwell Heitinga, Jagielka, Distin could do the job.
Or am I talking crap?
Brian Swift, Posted 06/09/2011 at 20:45:46
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1 Posted 06/09/2011 at 06:36:22
2 Posted 06/09/2011 at 07:11:53
3 Posted 06/09/2011 at 08:10:34
I think we might have enough RBs at the club.
4 Posted 06/09/2011 at 08:49:01
We have Neville, Hibbert and Coleman (when fit).
5 Posted 06/09/2011 at 08:52:45
6 Posted 06/09/2011 at 08:58:34
7 Posted 06/09/2011 at 09:36:28
8 Posted 06/09/2011 at 10:03:17
How many more chances does Rodwell get before people realise he is just a ordinary defensive midfielder. I'm getting sick and tired of Rodwell and Bily saying "This is my big chance," then doing nothing.
To answer your question: no way would I play him rightback; I would even prefer Hibbert, to be honest even without Arteta I would prefer Fellaini and Barkley in the central midfield positions.
9 Posted 06/09/2011 at 10:18:09
Same goes for Rodwell in centre-mid (with Fellaini holding) as well I'm thinking. The one fair point about Arteta going is that, when big players leave, it can give those in the shadow of them a chance to front up. Although we have a few injuries for this Saturday (Baines, Cahill) I do think we possibly have a chance for the following line-up when fit.
Neville Jags Distin Baines
Barkley Fellaini Rodwell Drenthe
I would much rather prefer Coleman in time in place of Neville, but I do rate Phil's captain skills when we have our backs to the wall at present.
This does leave Heitinga benched but he is never a centre mid and is good cover for Jags/Distin.
10 Posted 06/09/2011 at 10:47:08
11 Posted 06/09/2011 at 10:55:47
But I'm not sure you can be THAT slow and play in any position in the Premier League. He's out of chances for me and the only reason he's still with us is no-one else wants him.
12 Posted 06/09/2011 at 10:51:09
I don't think he's being coached to slow things down, I believe his injuries have hit his confidence to take the physical risks to drive forward with the ball ? he knows the crunching tackle is just about to happen.
13 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:02:09
14 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:09:41
He didn't play centre half for the first team until well after his debut... and when he did, he wasn't very good.
15 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:18:11
16 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:20:17
17 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:27:05
18 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:25:22
I think the commentator summed it up well at half-time when he said Jack had made little or no impact on the game. To me, except for a couple of instances, that summed up his Everton career.
19 Posted 06/09/2011 at 11:39:57
He's a good enough footballer to play right back and he's got the athleticism to get up and down, which is important at full back these days.
IMO, if he's going to be a Premier League player, that will be the position he makes it.
20 Posted 06/09/2011 at 12:33:44
21 Posted 06/09/2011 at 12:38:25
Very funny mate.
22 Posted 06/09/2011 at 13:39:12
23 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:49:19
24 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:58:33
I suspect he doesn't even know his own best position and wonder whether the natural instincts are being coached out of him. However, I don't understand this centre back theory!
25 Posted 06/09/2011 at 16:22:56
26 Posted 06/09/2011 at 20:28:20
27 Posted 06/09/2011 at 16:57:47
When was the last time Rodwell had a sustained run in the central midfield position? And was he playing with other players who were showing for the ball or creating movement ahead? Seems like some people expect more from a youngster struggling for match sharpness than they do from established PL players. He certainly aint the messiah, but he's not shit either.
Rodwell has been played on the wing in half the games I've seen him. He's also had injury issues and when the rest of the team consists of players who treat the ball like a hot potato then a sideways pass is about the best you're gonna get. I'd rather have a sideways pass to a blue shirt than have Jags, Neville or Hibbert hoof it 40 yards straight to the opposition.
Personally I think he could make it as a defensive central midfielder but I also think that Barkley looks significantly better than Rodwell, especially as an attacking midfielder. Whether Barkley is cut out to do the defensive work of a centre mid I'm not sure.
Barkley gave away a pen with a clumsy challenge at Blackburn and he also lost possession in dangerous areas playing for the U21's last night. Perhaps the cahill role would be more suited.
Infact if I were Moyes I'd think about playing 1 striker with Barkley and Bily just in behind. Both of those players are technically gifted and I think they'd be on a similar wavelength. Both also seem unreliable for defensive work so it solves two issues in one go.
28 Posted 07/09/2011 at 00:16:39
I believe Rodwell will become a steady Premier League player and nothing more. It amazes me to think a player with basic footballing ability is considered by many as a possible future great.
29 Posted 07/09/2011 at 08:53:12
I do agree in some ways as ive seen milk turn quicker than him run when he has space on the wing.
My phrase is a bad analogy though as i mean he's poor direct, but ive always thought when u watch him is that the one thing he does do well is "turn" fast, i.e. its a skill that only works when the ball is played in central just in front of the back four. Frustrating as a winger as it stalls attacks but i still think a god-send in the hole position as it contorts the x2 centre halves....hopefully allowing a ball to split them for saha/denis.
I think this is win or bust for him and is the only position left to go.
I (in my blue tinted goggles) think he may be able to do that for us, and whilst I would not slate cahll for the icon that he is, he is technically a poor footballer in this role
30 Posted 07/09/2011 at 16:53:10
Fellaini looked shit in certain games, he also got tons of stick from posters on this site, yet when he was given a sustained role in a position which suited him and the rest of the team started playing well then the guy looked like one of the best central midfielders in the prem.
I'm not saying Rodwell is a world beater or even that he'll turn into a good PL centre mid, I'm just saying he really hasn't been given a fair chance so its a bit early to pass judgement, in my opinion.
Rodwells situation is exactly the same as Bily who gets a ton of stick yet is rarely played to his strengths. You wouldn't play Messi at centre half so why you'd play someone with no pace, but quick feet and a good attacking football brain as a winger is beyond me.
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