Just read this on the Echo website,
"IN Saturday?s Echo we stated that Everton FC?s financial plight made the sale of Mikel Arteta necessary.
We understand from Everton this is not the case and Arteta was reluctantly allowed to leave because he expressly stated a desire to do so ? not because of any financial pressure upon the club, which would have been happy and able to keep him.
We apologise for giving the wrong impression on the matter." In this interview on YouTube: -
Arteta states he knew a few days before of Arsenal's interest.
Given that Prince Rupert has made the Echo apologise, can we take that as meaning most of us have got the wrong end of the stick and that Moyes will have all of that to spend come January?
I am not holding my breath.
Dave Randles, Posted 06/09/2011 at 12:22:31
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1 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:39:34
It will just be another move from Kenwright trying to out all the blame on Arteta ? and make himself look all noble and good.
Chances are Arteta maybe wanted to move but would of been more then happy to stay and it was Kenwright who forced the sale through.
We all knew something would happen and as like many people said a big sale would be done right on the deadline making it look like Moyes didn't have chance to spend the cash, the board then come out and say money will be available in Jan (which I think we all know it won't) and the blame gets put on the player with the club saying it was him who wanted to leave!
It's just like one of BK's plays!... laughable!
2 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:42:18
From what I have read/heard etc, we had a £25 million overdraft which was always at its limit and the bank asked the club to reduce it, which the £16 million or so from transfer fees will have done.
Secondly, the £80 million in, £85 million out problem should have been solved by the fact that the 4 players we no longer have were probably earning around £9 million pound a year basic between them. Some of that saving will have gone on the 2 new boys, but I certainly can't see Denis being on much in Premier League terms, and Drenthe was still on his first Real Madrid contract after being signed as a youngster, so again, wages are probably not that high.
So I don't see why Moyes wouldnt get some/all of the Arteta cash in January.
3 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:45:01
4 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:55:47
5 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:58:14
Only issue for me is the option to buy... if he has a great season he might be gone.
BTW anyone seen the pic of Strac in the Post holding his shirt.. wow.. is that his best shot!?!
Saw pics of Arteta in his Arsenal strip on their sight... so not cool. Looks so out of place.
6 Posted 06/09/2011 at 14:59:29
The only business in January should be looking at getting Landon back on loan. He said the only reason he didn't come last January was that he needed a break... so hopefully we might have a chance this time!
I'm hoping Denis will prove good ? I think he looks like the type of player that will fit in well in Moyes's 4-5-1 formation. And you don't become the top scorer in Argentine Primera División and get a hat trick against Boca by not knowing where the net is!
7 Posted 06/09/2011 at 15:35:52
8 Posted 06/09/2011 at 15:52:28
Christ on a bike ? can some of you lot not hear yourselves sometimes??! Arteta has stated he wanted to go, he willingly gave an interview to say as much AND he handed in a written transfer request.
9 Posted 06/09/2011 at 15:55:58
I heard that also, but isn't it the same Sven at Leicester that persisted with Emile Heskey for England all those years?
10 Posted 06/09/2011 at 16:11:22
There's an awful lot of rubbish talked about Sven, he's had a superb career.
11 Posted 06/09/2011 at 16:34:21
12 Posted 06/09/2011 at 17:16:07
13 Posted 06/09/2011 at 17:48:25
14 Posted 06/09/2011 at 18:45:27
15 Posted 06/09/2011 at 19:31:10
'All the ressies just come in from training absolutely BUZZIN off Arteta... Said he was unreal! Can't wait to see him play now!'
Bet he wasn't practising dead ball routines!
16 Posted 06/09/2011 at 19:33:19
17 Posted 06/09/2011 at 19:50:05
Michael #16 - I'm pretty sure the McManus rumours (drop the McM for it's source) are complete bollocks, he's a well known RS to boot
18 Posted 06/09/2011 at 20:44:54
19 Posted 06/09/2011 at 20:55:25
20 Posted 06/09/2011 at 21:24:51
21 Posted 06/09/2011 at 22:13:19
Some will not be happy unless he is a died in the wool blue nose.
That begs the questions of what clubs did all these prem league billionaires support.
22 Posted 06/09/2011 at 22:17:30
23 Posted 06/09/2011 at 22:22:00
In my opinion, they just have to be a successful businessperson with a track record in running an organisation of the size and scope of EFC who would be dedicated to making us the best we can possibly be. They must also be capable of developing the business in order to gain ground on the other organisations in our 'sector' who are ahead of us, with the ultimate aim of eventually becoming the market leader !!
Who that person is? I don't know, but then I'm not paid to know or to find that person, that is the job of our Board !!!
24 Posted 06/09/2011 at 22:55:35
25 Posted 07/09/2011 at 03:26:45
"The deal had looked dead after talks between the two clubs broke down but it was revived soon after Arteta handed in his transfer request an hour before the deadline."
26 Posted 07/09/2011 at 03:24:17
27 Posted 07/09/2011 at 07:02:14
28 Posted 07/09/2011 at 08:30:38
According to Dutch sources, Drenthe is on a ?60000/week contract. At current exchange rates that is about £53000 a week. If he plays well for us, he will be off to a team that offers at least the same wages and I'm afraid that we are not that team...
29 Posted 07/09/2011 at 11:04:28
Transfer Fees: Arteta £9M; Pienaar £2M; Yak £1.5M; Beckford £4.5M, Vaughan £2M... equating to approx £19M in sales... coupled with wages saved of approx: Arteta £75k/wk; Yak £40k/wk; Beckford £25k/wk; Yobo £35k/wk; Pienaar £40k/wk; Vaughan £20k/wk equating to £13.66M/year in wages. Add these two together, it comes to £32.6M in saving if based over the year as I can't see any signings in January.
Is Bill maybe reducing the dept and therfore increasing the value of the club, knowing his days are numbered? And a sale within the year imminent?.... I can dream but next year's figures will be interesting as we surely cant be losing money.... Time will tell but the next year looks very interesting to say the least.
30 Posted 07/09/2011 at 14:28:37
31 Posted 07/09/2011 at 15:17:16
I recognise I will not prevail on this one and things have to start somewhere, so why not march. But I am 100% certain that at least in the short term the affect will be negative and unpleasant for Everton and Evertonians.
So march, make people aware, then ????
The truth is it is very difficult to see a way forward, if it was easy then it would have been taken. I am therefore potentially condemned as apathetic by doing nothing, and others advocating more direct action are arguably a little aimless?
I hope it goes well and there is no hassle.
Most of all I hope we beat Villa.
32 Posted 07/09/2011 at 17:53:55
Therein lies the problem. Two seeming polar views, with those being 1 - We will be okay, we always are or 2 (and my view) wait and see what happens and we WILL get relegated. Maybe not this year, and at a push not next. But the year after????
Without halting or even reversing the reduction of an ever-decreasing squad size, we will be in real trouble. So, my view is that we may as well do something now because as things stand, the only way is down.
So I understand what you are saying but the effect on Everton and Evertonians if we do nothing will be just as bad! While it may seem like a relatively small protest at the moment I am certain that it will gather momentum week by week and if the end result is merely BK naming his price, well that's a major achievement.
33 Posted 07/09/2011 at 18:18:04
34 Posted 07/09/2011 at 18:23:42
35 Posted 07/09/2011 at 18:45:54
36 Posted 07/09/2011 at 20:30:42
The method and means of deciding on what form the protest should take was a show of hands at the Casa, there was no real science involved - but I am sure over the coming weeks & months other initiatives will be considered.
37 Posted 07/09/2011 at 22:03:15
I have also read in an article since the deal was done that to prevent EFC having to pay a sizable chunk of the fee to Arteta for selling him against his wishes, on top of the slice for Sociedad, which would have left us with a very much reduced fee, it was agreed that Mikky, who is clearly not motivated solely by money, would be reported as asking to speak to Arsenal to agree a move; however, he DID NOT put in a written transfer request!!
38 Posted 07/09/2011 at 22:24:30
I'm a toffee, I don't have much more than blind optimism... thanks Bill.
39 Posted 08/09/2011 at 16:01:58
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