Apart from his new colleagues, I haven't found anything or anyone who sees the return of the Scottish Rooney as anything other than a backward step. Nor can I find anyone who thinks the performances from Everton this season have been anything other than woeful (Villa game apart and even then we blew it).
However, I still see comments on this site and elsewhere stating that these views are a bitter minority and that the majority are still behind Moyes and the Board. I suppose the evidence for this is the lack of dissent at home games ?
Whilst there are regular contributors who are typically in one camp or another, I for one will be interested to see what happens over the next few weeks. If indeed the true litmus test of support or dissent is the home crowd's reaction, then upcoming games against Chelsea and Man U may provide the answer, especially as Billy BS's face goes back up on the screen...
Steve Guy, Posted 18/10/2011 at 13:18:18
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1 Posted 18/10/2011 at 16:22:49
Now I have accepted the fact that we won't be signing anyone much better, unless it's on loan like Drenthe, in January and we might be needing him during the Christmas period knowing our luck with injuries.
Who knows? The guy could come on for the last 15 minutes at Anfield or at home versus Man Utd and score a winner... then we will be hailing his signing as a masterstroke!
2 Posted 18/10/2011 at 17:33:42
3 Posted 18/10/2011 at 17:34:30
I heard him being lauded again on five live last night and wonder how these pundits become pundits. They are an admiration society.
4 Posted 18/10/2011 at 17:39:00
5 Posted 18/10/2011 at 17:45:38
They're both pretenders, people know it but don't like to admit they've been duped.
People aren't giving it the "look after 10 games shite" like last year - "you can fool some of the people etc".
This Moyes garbage is on it's last legs.
6 Posted 18/10/2011 at 18:33:49
I sense very much that many of my fellow Evertonians are bored and feel it`s time for a change.More bad results will increase the pressure for action.Sad,but so is soccer these days!
7 Posted 18/10/2011 at 19:31:43
Moyes is one track minded and quite frankly I have had enough of his defeatist dross.
8 Posted 18/10/2011 at 20:08:33
It just never happens at least not with any sign we are becoming a better team.
This squad doesn't have it and neither does Moyes. It's been 10years for pete's sake so how many more?
The record away from home against the top teams has been abyssmal in the last 5 years. The Mcfadden deal is just desperation and will not change anything.
9 Posted 18/10/2011 at 20:52:19
10 Posted 18/10/2011 at 20:52:42
Moyes must be forced out by fans, it is as easy as that!
Problem as one of you said is that the majority dont dare do anything for fear or for not beliveing there are anyone better than him.
I would go for a safe approach then, either apply Neville or Stubbs to the new posistion as manager.
Neville would be my first choice, and remember other clubs such as CHelsea has done it so why cant we?
Duncan Ferguson would be my dream choice, I would be over the moon to see him as our manager!!! Who knows we might be better off with either of them then Moyes. Anyway for the now we need to get a win against Fulham, if we dont get a result there we will be crushed and it will take a loooong time for us to recover. After January perhaps.
11 Posted 18/10/2011 at 20:28:54
The matchgoer is not slow to vent his anger at substanded performances from the players or the manager, but the appreciation shown by the crowd at the end of last season demonstrated they understood the straight jacket Davey Moyes is forced to work in. They didnt need any "revelations" to tell them we werer wiped out skint, most of them knew years ago. that doesnt blind them to Moyes`s faults, but it does mean they will continue to cut him a lot of slack.
When those who can't accept ANY reason offered in defence of Moyes when things go wrong , or cant give him ANY credit when things go right, are described as "The bitter minority" should that really come as a surprise ?
Anger , bitterness and a determination to lay all of our clubs problems at the doorstep of one man is probably the reason why they are referred to as "bitter"
The belief that getting rid of Moyes will suddenly cure our problems is imo almost certainly the reason why they are believed to be in the "minority"
12 Posted 18/10/2011 at 19:11:04
13 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:13:15
It's clear that the applause which drowned out the cheers last time was a tribalistic response rather than a ringing endorsement for how the useless bastard has actually performed in his capacity as Chairman.
14 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:16:20
15 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:06:51
16 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:19:58
17 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:21:13
Logically I think Moyes should finish the season out, and do what he did when he got here, and save us from relegation. It is to the point were I am trying to find 3 teams worse than us and that is about as hard as beating Liverpool at Anfield.
18 Posted 18/10/2011 at 21:26:29
19 Posted 18/10/2011 at 22:09:50
20 Posted 18/10/2011 at 23:20:45
21 Posted 18/10/2011 at 23:58:51
Don't know if you've seen this already Jimmy, but it might cheer you up a bit:
'The 39-year-old retired from football five years ago and moved to Spain, returning to Goodison Park only occasionally such as for his induction into the Everton Hall of Fame in 2009. Recently, however, he has been seen patrolling the academy pitches at the club's Finch Farm training complex, having stunned David Moyes by asking for work at his former club as he takes his coaching qualifications.
"I have to say I didn't foresee him going into coaching when I had him as a player," the Everton manager said. "But Duncan has been away for five years and I think he misses the smell of football a wee bit."
Ferguson is not employed by Everton in an official capacity but has been assisting Alan Irvine, the club's academy manager, for several weeks. Moyes said: "Duncan came back about a month ago and met me. He wants to watch and see what's going on. He is back and helping Alan Irvine. He is not a qualified coach yet because he is going through his badges, but we have got him in and he's happy to do the time and he is working down at the academy.
"He is showing he really wants to do it. What I have to say is he is putting the hours and the effort in. He still has to get his B licence and A licence but he is shadowing Alan. He is out and about helping some of the younger teams here, he will get the chance to take some sessions." '
22 Posted 19/10/2011 at 00:16:42
23 Posted 19/10/2011 at 01:36:47
24 Posted 19/10/2011 at 08:21:35
25 Posted 19/10/2011 at 08:48:59
I get the impression that many people including Moyes think that it is inevitable that we will lose against the Manchester clubs, Arsenal even Fulham away. I believe that once that sort of thinking creeps in there is only one direction the club is going in and that is down!
Somehow, and I know it isn't easy, the present people who run or should I say run-down our club need to be removed quickly.
NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM ? have they heard of our proud club motto!
Evertonians will de-camp until these people leave our club. Eric and Mike above are right.
26 Posted 19/10/2011 at 10:55:05
We should be finishing in the top 8 and we will, we can't expect any more than that because the clubs above us have more money so in turn have better players. We were hanging in there for a while but the fact is we have stayed where we are with our skill level and other teams around us have spent more to improve their skill level; therefore, the fact we will finish in the top 8 means we are still doing bloody well!
I don't want to accept it but what choice do I have? With what we have we can't expect to challenge for the top 4 it's just not realistic. Sack the board but god help us if they stay and Moyes goes.
27 Posted 19/10/2011 at 20:14:54
If that is achieved, and I have every confidence that it will be, Moyes will have done a good job. AGAIN.
28 Posted 18/10/2011 at 17:33:42
29 Posted 20/10/2011 at 22:06:42
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