In a few weeks, the usual miserable time for Blues will be upon us. We will have a month of speculation & outright lies.
I can hear the shouts of "Where has all the Arteta money gone?" We all know we are looking for a centre-forward, I won't even start with naming any names, it only adds to the pain.
The question is, when was the last time we signed a player who you thought was going to turn our fortunes around?
You know, one of those names who you couldn't wait to phone your mate and say "You'll never guess who we have just signed?"
Personally, the last player who made me think we were a big club was Gary Lineker, then we sold him after one season.
Kevin Tully, Posted 07/12/2011 at 11:39:21
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1 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:08:18
2 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:10:35
Kevin Campell was playing at Besiktas and a former Besiktas friend of mine was saying that he thought Kevin was a great striker, and he did well enough, but the best I have seen since Duncan is Yakubu, and always will be, his smile on his face after scoring reminds me of the cartoon movie with that green Ork and the Donkey, Eddie Murphy.
His smile after scoring is something I miss dearly, simple joys of life. I watched the second half of the Blackburn game and I have to say Yakubu should never have left for next to nothing.
We can all thank Moyes for losing £10M there, plus losing another £10M on Bily and perhaps up to £15M on Felli. I can't remember the last time Moyes signed a player I thought was quality.
3 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:12:37
But i do think there are some good championship players with contracts running down. The likes of Maynard, Clyne and Butterfield. This is where Moyes had had joy in the past and i suspect where we will be best of looking in January and then the Summer.
4 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:20:36
To be fair, we were all a bit giddy then.
5 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:17:06
My own view in more recent times was Landon Donovan. I honestly believe that if he had signed permanently he would have made a push for CL a realistic goal (at that time). Not to be, but he made a real impact.
6 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:20:55
Your rantings get more and more asinine.
7 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:26:47
Andrej Kanchelskis, Gary Speed, Nick Barmby (!), Andy Johnson, Yakubu and to a lesser extent Andy van der Meyde and Royston Drenthe.
8 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:28:00
I think it's often forgot he spurned interest from Man Utd and Liverpool to come to Everton.
I think those who have criticised him over the years should remember that before putting forward phoneys like Ian Snodin as a 'Blues legend' on the basis he turned down our beloved neighbours.
9 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:37:17
10 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:36:46
Planning, even at the most basic level, is a foreign country to this club and it appears we haven't got a passport (never mind a pot to piss in).
To answer the original question I was excited and slightly disbelieving when I heard that Mr Drenthe was on his way to Goodison. Before that...Big Dunc coming home.
11 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:36:46
Who was the worst manager before Moyes? Mike Walker springs to mind, he did as well as Moyes. Won nothing.
12 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:48:47
I remember being excited on ceefax reports that we signed Beagrie. Thinking we'd signed some foreign trickster, imagine my disappointment that he came from Stoke City.
13 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:49:11
Off the top of my head:
I realise that not all of these have succeeded at Everton, but when they were bought I thought they would be cracking signings for us.
14 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:54:20
And I got excited when we were signing Bily ... I'm blaming that on YouTube.
15 Posted 07/12/2011 at 13:56:33
16 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:02:06
17 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:01:50
I was thinking more along the lines of "big names in world football," not run of the mill Premier League players!
18 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:10:18
More recently Drenthe and Heitinga - I dunno, probably psychological, but it's something about 'Dutch masters' or whatever that makes me feel like EFC should be privileged to have signed them. ( maybe it shows how far we have fallen )
19 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:08:01
We are not - and not sure we ever have been - a big name in world football. We have been big in England from time to time and have a long history but have never been big in world terms.
We sing "If you know your history" , not "if you know your fantasy"
Hence - we don't get such players.
Just reality as it is.
20 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:14:32
21 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:17:41
Soin truth our players that are for sale are worth next to nothing, compare to what we bought them for and there will be a huge loss, add to the fact that we have spent 11.25 on Yakubu and only got just over 1 million, that is minus 10 million already. Factor in Bily a loss of around 7-8 million, after a sale of 2-3 million we have lost 17-18 million on two players only. I feel optimistic in getting 2 million for Bily at this time so we are not going to have a NICE transfer window.
It will be more of the same, perhaps Straq will go back to Argen. and we will bring in Macheda or Owen on loan, things still look bleak. Very much so.
22 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:32:08
23 Posted 07/12/2011 at 14:51:56
24 Posted 07/12/2011 at 15:03:03
the real worry is Moyes not knowing if he's got any money or not!!
The transfer window opens in a couple of weeks and we are desperate for new faces ASAP.
The lack of planning and management at EFC beggars belief.
Even Tranmere are more organised.
25 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:09:01
I would imagine that transfer funds are dependant on the financial situation at the time during the window. This can be affected by any or all of the following up to the last minute:
- contract re-signs for existing players
- selling players
- any additional funds raised/loaned
I don't think that anyone with a modicum of financial nous would expect
a) a hard figure to be pencilled in until the last moment
b) that figure to be widely discussed, which can only be a weakness in negotiations, and as a private company, simply shouldn't be in the public domain anyway.
I would be very surprised if any other premiership club acts differently. Managers make player requests, the board says whether it can, or can't be achieved. They wont get given an exact figure of a pot of cash to spend as they like.
26 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:18:58
27 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:16:16
My thinking now is if they're half-way decent, they're going.
Kevin I still phone mates and say - ""You'll never guess who we have just signed"
But...not in a good way.
28 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:27:21
If you think that Man city go to mancini and say, you have £46.2 million to spend this coming transfer window, then you are sadly deluded.
Businesses don't work that way - and rich club owners have got to where they are by being savvy businessmen. They don't throw their money away, nor do they hamper themselves.
They may give a general indication of cash they are prepared to invest; ie, "we want you to improve the squad and sign players who will give us a realistic chance of winning the league, and we expect you need 2 or 3...." or some-such. But I guarantee that every player that is requested goes to the board for approval, and the fee's involved and whether it's do-able is worked out by the board and NOT the managers.
You don't just get given money. You ask for it, and it may be granted. Thus, does every business work...
29 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:30:53
The last signing I was excited about was Arteta, I remember him having a stormer against Vila and wishing he would sign that day. As usual with Everton's business bods, they nearly screwed that up too.
30 Posted 07/12/2011 at 16:57:09
Didn't quite work out that way.
31 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:15:54
32 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:14:21
Sadly, with our new signings these days it's a bit like taking a look at a shunt between 2 cars on the opposite side of the motorway. You have to look but aren't that fussed eitherway...
33 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:19:45
34 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:18:06
Prior to that, without doubt, Kanchelskis ? great old-fashioned winger! My Grandad loved him. Come to think of it, Johnson, Kanchelskis, Lineker, Beardsley... plus Big Dunc's return.
Most recently...? Drenthe.
35 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:37:21
36 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:37:09
37 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:39:08
We had just won the Cup,we had just beaten the Shite,Man Utd and Newcastle the previous season,we had Big Dunc(who we all knew would be fantastic once his injury problems were over) and then we signed arguably the most exciting winger in the country.
I was giddy with anticipation of the fabulous wing play we were about to witness. Limpar and Kanchelskis crossing the ball for the Towering Scot to finish with a bullet header.
And,that summer i got my first ever season ticket for my 14th birthday present.
38 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:53:33
39 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:40:54
Back to the article
Bob Latchford - thinking he must be shit hot with how much he cost at the time and wasn't disappointed
Beardsley (odd as I hated him as a RS)
40 Posted 07/12/2011 at 17:56:21
" Factor in Bily a loss of around 7-8 million, after a sale of 2-3 million we have lost 17-18 million on two players only"
The profit made on the sale of Lescott alone almost cancels out those (actual and make believe) transfer losses. Throw in Arteta too and we're in the black. Since you're including hypothetical sales, let's also say we will make a 9 million profit on Baines because I have just (pretend) sold him to Man U for 15 million.
41 Posted 07/12/2011 at 19:09:47
Interestingly - I would be very surprised if any honest Blue can tell us they got as excited when Moyes brought in Lescott, Martyn, Jagielka, Cahill, Pienaar, Baines ...
Conclusion - Moyes has a good transfer record and we should trust him in the transfer market!
42 Posted 07/12/2011 at 19:16:15
BK is neither rich, nor a business man. He publicly stated in October, I think, that the Arteta cash was not going to service the debt. Money for players will be available, he said. Then he probably waffled something about Corrie or the Boys Pen.
I know most clubs don't declare publicly what they intend to spend in transfer windows, ffs. Most clubs don't continually lie to their fans either.
This isn't most clubs Jeremy. This is Everton.
43 Posted 07/12/2011 at 19:18:18
Of course not buying in January would just mean that the £15 million we didn't use could be added to the untold millions we'll have next close season.
I personally can't wait until January to see what actually happens. Hopefully Moyes will be given at least £20k plus the £10k we get for Bily, that may get us a loan deal organised on a striker Moyes is looking at presently playing for the Duck and Gun in Lowestoft.
44 Posted 07/12/2011 at 19:37:32
45 Posted 07/12/2011 at 20:17:08
46 Posted 07/12/2011 at 20:36:36
I was made up when Bill Kenwright took us over!
I was made up when David Moyes became Manager!
I now honestly believe that I made the last 2 up.....
47 Posted 07/12/2011 at 21:42:09
48 Posted 07/12/2011 at 23:47:43
49 Posted 07/12/2011 at 23:50:05
50 Posted 07/12/2011 at 23:47:24
51 Posted 07/12/2011 at 23:46:15
Kanchelskis and Speed also really stand out in the memory.
I can also remember getting really excited on the twelve occasions we nearly signed Riquelme!
52 Posted 08/12/2011 at 05:49:22
We were under Walter, 10 players behind the ball, no flair, no imagination, percentage game, hoofball. Enter Stephen Hughes, bright young prospect nabbed from Arsene. We gave him the #10 shirt straightaway.
I don't know what's sadder, then or now.
53 Posted 08/12/2011 at 06:27:10
I for one was genuinely excited when he first came, and i was also genuinely excited when he finally left.
54 Posted 08/12/2011 at 07:36:07
In many cases we have signed some good players and the transfers have not worked not because the player wasn't right but because the timing wasn't right. I was excited about Peter Beardsley - thinking that it could rejuvenate Sharpy -then we sold him to Oldham. Beardsley was a wonderful player for us - but he could have been even better if we had played him alongside a strong centre forward/target man. And of course if we had looked to keep hold of him!!! I have often wondered how we would have done if we hadn't sold him after only 2 seasons. he had 4/5 more good years at Newcastle so he was far from being a spent force.
55 Posted 08/12/2011 at 08:14:59
and before him
56 Posted 08/12/2011 at 08:34:10
We sing if you know your history because with BK at the helm we can only look backwards to make ourselves feel good. BK's legacy? - a man that cynically peddled history rather than make it!
I love belting out that song...athough there is a degree of sadness about it too...resigned that we'll potentially never hit the heights again in some peoples lifetime.
57 Posted 08/12/2011 at 16:15:43
Ratcliffe at left back,
Lyons at centre forward,
Darracott's muzzy / sideburn ensemble.
Brett Angell, Barlow and Spencer.
Kroll against Millwall.
And anyone from Kendall mk3.
And not forgetting, Lawson, Davies, McDonough and any goalie we have ever had except West and Southall.
58 Posted 08/12/2011 at 16:49:14
I haven't been in for a chip barm since!!!
59 Posted 08/12/2011 at 17:07:41
Going back a bit, Limpar on the left and Kanchelskis on the right.........owe to have that set up again.........
Campbel, Ferguson also up there.
First transer memory was Andy Gray cmoing in some time a the end of '83!
60 Posted 08/12/2011 at 17:59:32
61 Posted 08/12/2011 at 21:13:48
62 Posted 08/12/2011 at 21:15:40
63 Posted 09/12/2011 at 20:08:32
64 Posted 09/12/2011 at 21:13:49
But in my defence that is when my dad first introduced me to Tom Caxtons Home Brewed Bitter.
I'll get me coat.
65 Posted 10/12/2011 at 15:23:33
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