Everton started brilliantly, a good move down the left seeing Baines feed Gueye who advanced and crossed in classic style, Fellaini setting up Drenthe for a lovely curled shot that had Goodison rocking in the sunshiine on the first attack inside 48 seconds!!!
The Blues followed that up by scoring in the 7th minutes, Stracqualursi poking home from close range at the second attempt off a top-class Drenthe corner that was glanced on by Fellaini as Blackpool's defence appeared transfixed. Anticipation of a rare Goodison Goalfest was palpable...
But Blackpool forced their way back into it a little after the early maelstrom, winning a dangerous free-kick that Phillips drove into the Everton wall. Then Howard had to come out and make a desperate block on Taylor-Fletcher as he went to shoot off a dangerous throughball from Taylor that sliced through the Blues defence. Taylor-Fletcher came off worst in the clash and was replaced by Bednar after extensive treatment that ended with him being carried off on a stretcher.
Everton put together another couple of pacey attacks that both deserve goals, Drenthe again pushing forward and feeding a great ball to Gueye but Gibson stole it off his foot and made an awful mess of a great chance. Then Gueye got forward down the left and played in a top-notch cross that was just a foot or so too fast for Stracqualursi to convert. Great attacking football!!!!
But Everton played part of the first half in less adventurous manner, resorting to the dreadful plays from advanced positions all the way back to Howard for the pointless big hoof that hands over possession! Maddening.
They got into better mode before the break, putting in a couple more worthwhile attacks that almost came off: Fellaini having a feirce drive shot deflected wide, Stracqualursi heading a great cross just over the bar, and Drenthe curled a lovely free-kick just over the angle.
At the other end, Howard had to stretch for a Sylvester grass-cutter that earnt a corner which led to a couple more that Everton defended solidly through to the break.
Fellaini had what looked like two good chances on 50 minutes but could not wrap his foot around it, one a great set-up by Stracq that Harris somehow blocked for a corner, and off the Drenthe short corner, Neville's cross fell nicely for a volley the Big Belgian got all wrong.
Seamus Coleman made a welcome return, replacing Magaye Gueye, who had played well. Drenthe, full of energy, powered a fantastic drive to the top corner that forded a good save for Gilks. Off the corner a free header for Heitinga squirmed over the bar.
At the other end, Bednar won another clever free-kick, backing into Heitinga, but Phillips thankfully drove it straight at Howard. Another Phillips free-kick was a humdinger that glanced off the far angle of the Gwladys Street goal as Blackpool did their best to unsettle the comfortable home side.
A final throw of the dice from Ian Holloway: a double substitution with 20 mins left, to see if Blackpool could get something after dominating the second half as Everton returned into their familiar defensive shell, happy with a defendable two-goal lead, a really poor Drenthe corner summing up the mindset of "we have what we hold". Even when they did produce a decent counter attack, Coleman went on one of his trademark runs and cut a perfect ball back to Stracq who lazily shanked it high, wide and horrible.
Into the last 10 minutes and Coleman at least was having some fun, and another great run set up Fellaini at the far post but his shot beat the keeper only to be blocked away off the line. A fantastic Drenthe cross came in from the left, set up perfectlyfor Fellaini to nod the ball over the bar!!! Incredibly sequence of misses by the big man.
Young Ross Barkley was then introduced for his 2012 debut in place of Gibson, as Everton put more pressure for a rousing end to the match,a great Baines cross falling for Coleman at the far post that he drove in but it would have gone wide if not saved by Gilks. Vellios then replace Stracq for the last few minutes.
A fantastic Lua Lua strike in the dying minutes forced a fingertip save off Howard that glanced off the post. Then Bednar again conned the ref, fouling Heitinga to win a very bizarre penalty that Phillips, with hearts apounding, justly blasted over.
In the end, it was a comfortable and 'professional' win. It could have been a monsoon of goals for the big crowd (38,347) after the initial flood... but this is Everton and a big win with more than two goals is a very rare thing these days. 6th Round here we come!
Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Heitinga, Distin, Baines, Gueye (57' Coleman), Gibson (81' Barkley), Neville, Fellaini, Drenthe, Stracqualursi (89' Vellios).
Subs: Hahnemann, Silva, Forshaw, Baxter.
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730 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:09:59
Everton XI: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Heitinga, Distin, Neville, Gueye, Gibson, Drenthe, Stracqualursi, Fellaini
731 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:10:31
732 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:09:39
733 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:12:09
Bare bones me thinks. Even Silva is on the bench
735 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:14:15
741 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:32:10
742 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:27:49
744 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:34:39
746 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:37:42
750 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:41:21
753 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:43:04
Fuck me, Moyes, how to dispel the excitement of last week.
754 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:45:39
757 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:50:40
759 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:52:06
765 Posted 18/02/2012 at 14:59:29
Good link: http://tykestv.eu/channel1.php
768 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:00:13
769 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:01:37
770 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:02:18
771 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:02:29
772 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:00:21
773 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:02:41
776 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:04:28
778 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:08:53
779 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:07:10
782 Posted 18/02/2012 at 15:09:47
784 Posted 18/02/2012 at 17:01:16
In the end, a pretty easy passage into Round 6 and another great team effort; it won't get any easier though...
785 Posted 18/02/2012 at 17:16:19
From what I saw, which wasn't too much, it looked like we were pretty comfortable. A great finish from Royston and I thought Seamus looked quite sharp bearing in mind he has been out for a while.
Can't wait for the draw. COYB.
793 Posted 18/02/2012 at 18:18:50
I don't know how we didn't win Six-Nil. Looking forward to the next round.
799 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:07:06
I take it we exended our unbeaten run, played fast attacking footie, got through to the quater final of the cup and disproved all the claims that people are voting with their feet in protest against Moyes by pulling in a bumper crowd . .why else would there only be THREE posts?
"We`re on the march with Moysies army"
800 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:15:44
801 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:14:15
Given Moyes' tactics in this run post 741 says more about itself and the like minded MOB than of Moyes.
802 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:24:06
803 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:25:03
Who or what is a "MOB"? and where is TM these days?
804 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:26:43
That's probably why there's only 5 posts nearly 2 and a half hours after the game.
805 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:37:34
806 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:44:39
Nothing to moan about so nobody posts.
Kenwright now an irrelevalence and Moyes once more our hero!
807 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:43:23
Didn't he scarper two rounds ago after he confidently told the people who hang onto his every word what would happen "WHEN Fulham beat us"??
BTW, did Radio Merseyside go down today?
808 Posted 18/02/2012 at 19:47:22
809 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:04:46
811 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:08:29
Still, some woeful tackling when unecessary encouraged Blackpool a little but what a farsical penalty award.
813 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:14:40
Kenwright will never be an irrelvence.
You do spout shite sometimes mate.
815 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:00:44
Some interesting questions come out of the game though. Fellaini as a forward? - a bit like a kid in a sweetshop today - but not what he is best at.
And the amazing Drenthe. How do we get the best out of him? I wonder what the Real Madrid watchers are making of his performances? Will they want him back? Or what kind of price will they put on him?
Maybe it was only an under-strength Blackpool - although any cup tie is always a cup tie - but seeing Fellaini and Drenthe in full flow in blue shirts is such a great experience. Then there's El Stracq of course.
819 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:42:37
However, Mr. Dodd (and others) a few positive results remedies only the short term and the fundamental weakness of the Club financially and the fraility of the squad longer term are still with us. They provide an excuse for the myopic to pretend all is well when this is true only superficially.
I dislike either "side" using a good or bad result to advance their respective position on either BK, DM or whatever.
Loving what is becoming a great cup run though. Bring em on in round six !! COYB
820 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:37:00
Fair play to DM. I've criticised him this year but he seems to have now sorted the defence, got some balance, and got one or two scoring. Hope he doesn't put Jagielka, Osman & Coleman back in or reward Neville with a role cos of one decent game today. Those four are negative players.
Right now, Heitinga, Drenthe, Hibbert and the midfield and defence as a unit are playing well together. Don't meddle with it just to please your bum-chums, Davey!
823 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:57:04
824 Posted 18/02/2012 at 20:58:29
826 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:02:49
Personally I'd sell Jags if Arsenal still wants him (we have Duffy, Distin and Heitinga) and use some of that cash to tie those loanees down then some to appease the banks and maybe a few quid left to strengthen and for gods sake do it all at the very start of the summer window and get them bedded in.
827 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:07:38
828 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:22:26
830 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:26:57
Of course he can also sign for anyone else . . maybe why Moyesy keeps criticising him in public.
831 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:30:48
833 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:31:23
I think you can safely assume that the lack of responses is tacit support for the manager and result.
He did what he's paid to do. It's understandable that we're more vociferous when he doesn't do what he's paid to do.
835 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:10:06
But those factors were no excuse for negative "knife to a gunfight" surrender-monkey bollocks in team formation and ethos.
The last few weeks, this has improved and the square peg ratio has dropped away, so it doesn't come as any surprise to me at least, that both performances AND results have improved. So at the moment there is no need for Moyes to go.
But if multi 'D' aliterative Davey comes back, watch the howls commence and IMO, with good cause.
See also Steve Guy, #819
837 Posted 18/02/2012 at 21:59:13
Good result today and performance. Arsenal going out has increased our prospects, and I think we would be in with a very realistic chance of winning the cup if we could use Pienarr and Donovan. Without them it will be very hard, but hopefully we can get another good draw, have Spurs draw Liverpool and so get rid of one of them, and then see where we are :D Also means that for another few weeks at least, we are in with a shot of winning a trophy, which is always nice. :)
841 Posted 18/02/2012 at 22:45:44
This is side-splitting: ?win a few and the critics just fade away!` (you went missing for an entire month Dodd and I don?t see you showing up again and again on these boards the times when it all goes pear-shaped ? Janus-faced Doddy).
Has it not occurred to you that people who correctly lambast and lampoon Moyes on here are very bit as pleased as punch as you when EFC win: not smug, not smarmy, just very happy. Has it ever occurred to you and your brother-in-complacent mediocrity, Wilson:
(1) That for the most past people who whine about Moyes ? even those who criticize him personally and caricature him ? would much rather like it if he actually turned a corner and did, consistently, not one game, not two or three, but consistently, what they ask of him.
(2) That the sheer joy and relief at seeing something done well ? and let?s not kid ourselves here, a sprint out of the blocks was followed by a canter for much of the rest of the game with concern expressed about not closing down the match (main culprits: Fella and the still yet-to-prove-himself Gibson) makes anyone who supports Everton happy and in a more charitable mood, for a while at any rate, or at least it ought to. Your points about silence and whatever else are just plain stupid and belong in your playground milieu and mind.
(3) That tonight ? or afternoon in my case and I?m watching the match again as I tap ? is not a time to call for Moyes?s head to be chopped because today he did his job properly for the most part, and deserves a pat on the back not a clap around the earhole. If someone who criticizes Moyes roundly one day cannot praise him when things go well, as I and many others did after Chelski, then that is blinkered belligerent nonsense. But it is not blinkered belligerent nonsense to hold concerns about Moyes and EFC that cannot be dispelled by a handful of decent performances.
(4) That if we really do turn round a corner and sail home this season with a cup under our belts then people who currently oppose or take jabs at Moyes actually might start to have second thoughts because, at the end of the day, regardless of who is in the hot seat, the one thing that everyone prays for is a team half as good as in 1985-87 and then perhaps later on, getting even better.
Well done today lads. Well done Moyes. I wont hold my breadth, but it would be so nice if this could become a consistent pattern as criticism can be a little bit more tiring for those who point the finger than the sort of complacent be-grateful-for-what-you-get passivity of Dodd, Wilson, and their ilk.
843 Posted 18/02/2012 at 22:43:41
I had to do some research in case I had been rolling them too thick. Derek Dougan did get charged with aggravated burglary (and acquitted!) Not a Burglar Bill type of thing ? more a "domestic ". All part of his very colourful life. They don't make 'em like the Doog no more...
847 Posted 18/02/2012 at 23:54:47
And Duffy was on the injured list before the game.
849 Posted 19/02/2012 at 00:04:58
I didn`t think you could bring yourself to enjoy our triumph too much! As for me going missing, I said at the beginning of January that I would not post until we could see what `came through the window`.
ps: You must have been the only one who missed me. I`m moved!
856 Posted 19/02/2012 at 00:50:12
As long as we don't get one of the Premier League teams away I can see us getting into the semis. We've been lucky with home draws up until now, let's hope it continues.
857 Posted 19/02/2012 at 01:29:08
Liverpool or Brighton and Hove Albion
858 Posted 19/02/2012 at 01:51:55
859 Posted 19/02/2012 at 01:54:09
861 Posted 19/02/2012 at 02:24:02
In my case I was fast asleep on the couch as it was midnight here.
As for bumper crowd it's lucky Blackpool brought 6,000+ with them, not many away teams do that.
What's WHWC Doddy?
863 Posted 19/02/2012 at 03:03:20
Well done blues and well done Moyes, keep it up, be positive and I'll change my mind AGAIN based on the evidence I see before me, not some entrenched and miopic viewpoint I must stick too despite evidence to the contrary.
How is that hard to understand?
864 Posted 19/02/2012 at 02:44:35
I would have commented straight after the game, except it was 3am and I still didn't quite know what to make of the game.
For the most part, Moyes selected a good side today, although I'm unsure as to what Fellaini needs to do to prove to DM that he is not a forward.
Two of our best players were our wingers, and both should have had at least a goal each (Drenthe probably should have had two, and Gueye gets the award for most self control for not absolutely throttling Gibson for taking the ball off of him).
I'm sorry, but the question has to be asked, if Pienaar wasn't cup tied and Landon didn't have the flu, would either of those wingers have started?
Obviously, that raises the question, would our performance have been any worse? Maybe not, but to have both those players playing the way they did today, I'd happily have the other two on the bench.
Coleman was very good when he came on, and brought the game back to life, after the middle half had turned into an absolute bore. So boring that the ref decided to brighten things up by awarding THAT penalty - did the Blackpool players even appeal?
All in all, a cup win is a cup win, but it would have been nice to see better finishing from the lads who had the chances - 4/5-0 possibly?
865 Posted 19/02/2012 at 03:33:02
Just a note to the Moyes Boys: we support Everton and, if we perceive Davey Boy as the source of the problems and crap performances, we reserve the right to say so. But no Ds for Davey today ? a positive performance all round which should have produced more goals.
Drenthe played great today and so did Gueye and Stracq and Howard dominated his area too just shows what a couple of positive attacking players can do to a team.
Got a close up of Gueye on TV just before he was subbed and he looked shagged out and was sweating profusely so he was either carrying an injury or is just not match fit at all and if that is the case the Finch Farm trainers really need to step up.
866 Posted 19/02/2012 at 05:19:21
868 Posted 19/02/2012 at 06:25:54
Well based on his performance yesterday it's confusing, either;
he IS a forward as he had 4 shots at goal from the six yard box
he's not a forward 'cos he missed them ALL.
870 Posted 19/02/2012 at 06:31:18
I guess he just isn't as good holding midfielder as Neville.
871 Posted 19/02/2012 at 06:37:22
Personally I've not thought much of Fellaini up to now although this season he seems much improved in some games and even more so lately. Whether that's 'cos he has Gibson next to him now we will only know when Gibson is dropped.
876 Posted 19/02/2012 at 07:09:11
I dont subscribe to using terms like "MOB". I feel it would put me on the same level as people who use brainless terms like Moysophiles.
However I think my question#799 was a valid one.
I usually have a decent bevy after the game but had to give it a miss yesterday. I wasn't too bothered because I thought these pages would be on fire with people discussing the the next round and the possibility of Wembley.
I was gutted when I saw only three post match posts at Seven oclock.
Now the claim often made by the more anti Moyes people is that if we do well, they will be the first to come out and say so, but they dont do they ? this thread proves that.
Paul Ferry sends another epic posts denigrating our win and attacking anyone who doesnt agree with him, in his last paragraph of his whine he offers a rather grudging "well done" but he "wont be holding his breath".
Robbie Shields agree`s with his attacks. Both men rather bizarrely cling to the belief that a"myopic" band of people who think Moyes can do no wrong actually exists. are these guys for real ?
Predictable Peter Praises Paul. He Points to the Pedantry of others in a Pathetic attempt to Pretend they didnt look Prats with their Pointless, Pessimistic Pre- match Prattle, Predicting negative Patterns of Play - Pity.
The Point (sorry - point ) I`m trying to make Roman is :
I`m not attacking anybody, but If all these people who flood these pages after a defeat actually do (as they claim ) come on and offer praise for a win or a seven match unbeaten run . . .
Where are they ?
878 Posted 19/02/2012 at 07:51:07
Many of those 6,000 seats were prime seats.
ST holders had to move. The only seats left were the ones where you look through a letter box to see a post.
Make no mistake, if we get a home draw today GP will be a sell out. No Matter who we get.
We all know the iceberg still looms, but many people where blaiming the manager for falling gates.
IMO, attendances for the last two home games would suggest that the disillusionment of the match goer is is directed firmly towards the directors box.
880 Posted 19/02/2012 at 08:23:56
882 Posted 19/02/2012 at 08:13:07
Evertonfc played pretty well again, yes again. I did not go but watched it on a reasonable feed, I am afraid that any criticism of Moyes or the performance should be committed to the same place as the crap that John Scales puked out in the commentary.
886 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:04:47
They would miss my money. . .and my support.
As for you and Peter . .well it`ll be a struggle, but I`ll somehow have to come to terms with not being flavour of the month with two people who`s opinion I really really value .
Going to Wembley ?
891 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:31:20
It's funny that this upturn in form has done little to abate your latent anger and in this thread it just gets turned on the 'Moyesophiles' rather than the man himself. I say just be happy and say you know what we have disagreed in the past but today things are looking good and let's all be glad to be Everton fans rather than the rather petulant name calling...
892 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:42:36
893 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:37:12
895 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:50:47
898 Posted 19/02/2012 at 09:58:43
90% of teams will have good and bad patches in every season, things to be happy about and things/people to berate. At the moment things are good. Am sure a downturn lies around the corner which will re-ignite the familiar debates but for now lets enjoy some unreserved and overdue positivity.
905 Posted 19/02/2012 at 10:05:40
Eric, I am with you all the way. Fellaini being in those positions to miss four though is more to do with him doing what he was told. I think Vellios or, fuckin hell, can't believe I'm saying this these days, Big Vic would have buried at least half of them. Like you also, I hadn't thought much of Fellaini until very recently.
Dave, I agree with you, but thinking that one instance proves an entire theory is the most commone mistake in investigations. Not that I need to do this, but here are a couple of ideas as to why there weren't many comments by 7pm:
- People were still out having a drink and talking up their chances of a trip to Wembley.
- A lot of posters are around the world, and, for better or worse, it is always easier to go straight to bed at 3am when you don't have bee in your bonnet about the game.
- It was a 2-0 win against a Championship side, 80 minutes of which was barely watchable.
For the record Dave, I don't take offence to the MOB call - I actively use it. I don't use the terms Moyesophile and haven't said Apologist for a long time because I can see that they are actually more insulting than MOB anyway.
I've said it in the past, a good run to the end of the season is not going to change my stance on the manager at this point. Moyes needs to put together a consistent season before I revert back to thinking he is a decent manager.
907 Posted 19/02/2012 at 10:14:12
Last home game against Chelsea was 34,000 and I don't think they have many travelling fans so the gates ares still around the average for this season of 33,500 (excluding cup games, including away support).
I reckon the numbers look good because some fans turned up to get a ticket stub to enable them a chance of a Wembley ticket.
912 Posted 19/02/2012 at 10:46:45
923 Posted 19/02/2012 at 10:49:00
Entertainment is not something that is permanent, if you had it every week then it wouldn't be entertainment would it, it would just become routine. Wins against the big teams feel so good because they're so rare, rare for every club! Trophies are rare for teams outside the top 4 including us! A good performance is only a good performace because there's bad perfromances to contrast it with. But oh no, Moyes is supposed to eradicate what no football manager has ever managed to do and make sure the fans are entertained every single week with attacking winning football, maybe then he can keep his job. What a joke.
Ever thought that even if Moyes 'gets it right' then that doesn't mean we'll win? What if Martinez got it right against us? What if Mancini or AVB had,d o you really think we'd have won those two games? No Moyes got it right and they didn't so we won, but when we lose it doesn't always mean that if only Moyes had attacked a bit more we would have won. We don't have a divine right to beat everyone in the league if only we just turn up, for evry perfromance we give against the Man citys and Chelseas of this world then someone else is going to do that to us.
924 Posted 19/02/2012 at 11:17:46
927 Posted 19/02/2012 at 11:22:43
Everton game was live on Setanta, 6 dollars per month on your foxtel package in Australia
939 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:08:56
Two of the three managers you use as examples are under enormous pressure right now because they aren't living up to expectations, and the other is Kenny Dalglish.
The fact that our squad is capable of beating Man City and Chelsea actually does mean that they should be expected to beat teams like Wigan.
Did we, the fans of 2012, come up with Nil Satis Nisi Optimum?
Contrast schmontrast. A good performance is a good performance regardless of any bad performances that come along. Likewise, a bad performance is a bad performance. From your second paragraph, I assume you don't enjoy any television series or films or novels.
Third paragraph doesn't read very well. I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
Sorry to rip it apart mate, and I am not saying that the win against Blackpool wasn't a good display from the manager. I'm just saying that some of us have made our mind up, and regardless of the joy that Moyes can and will give us in the future, we believe that it is time for change.
942 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:24:54
I'm presuming though the word joy substituted the word achieve.
For many MOB there's a strange belief that all he desires is to play crap football and return the minimal amount of points securing safety, yet you want to see him go regardless of future joy/ success/ achievement etc...
945 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:33:43
If Moyes finishes on a run this season, then continues with some consistently good, effective football next year, my opinion could change. At this point in time though, I think we could be higher up the league if we had a manager who knew how to prepare a side in the off season (which is actually my biggest gripe with Moyes).
946 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:32:55
The managers of Arsenal and Chelsea are under pressure correct but my point was not about pressure rather aboutt he fact that even with their massive resources they can't achieve the consistency of performances and results that some people expect Moyes to achieve with a lot less.
For the record I've seen lots of bad films, and read lots of bad books too, you can't ask for a refund though, makes you appreciate the good films/books all the more as well.
948 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:25:44
949 Posted 19/02/2012 at 12:46:49
The sad fact is, professional sport these days IS entertainment. Nothing more.
I also don't agree with having to contrast something to find quality or lack there of.
952 Posted 19/02/2012 at 13:13:41
Dead right I'd get a kick out of seeing us trounce opponents every week. Can clearly remember laughing when Sunderland scored in the 1st minute in '85 at Goodison. " shouldnt have done that" was the general feeling. Cue one of the most powerful attacking displays Ive seen from ANY TEAM, 3 of the goals of the season and plenty of smiling faces.
955 Posted 19/02/2012 at 13:30:04
It's still admirable that a fella like Robbie should go to the lengths he did to keep a promise to his son. And this wouldn't really be a discussion if the scandalous way ticket sales were handles, but it is what it is.
I don't see how anyone can argue with that? Most who buy season tickets and Evertonia memberships and all that will have qualifying for a cup final tickets as a reason at the back of thier mind.
957 Posted 19/02/2012 at 13:43:50
That seems to view managers as very disposable, dismissing all that they have proved and can do just for the chance that another can do better.
I want him to stay because I know he can improve on what he did this season, not rid of him because of it.
960 Posted 19/02/2012 at 13:49:40
Roman 939 ? "James, I commend you for the post, and your defence of it,"
I fail to see how one person can hold these two views, or rather make these statements about somebody else's post. You seem to want it both ways, as always!
You are as you admit one of the MOB that I mentioned failed to post yesterday. I don't care for your excuses as they would also stand both ways, but they don't. If you have a different view to someone else, so be it, but why you have to accuse James of "crap" is just a sign of your normal tendancies to get personal.
I don't always dissagree with some of what you write, but I don't always agree. It does not make me an "apologist"or a "Romanaphile"!!!
For those on this site who get lambasted (Doddy) for being positive about the manager and the team, week in wek out, then why should the self confessed MOB (Paul Ferry) not take the flack that is due to them. Too many like to give it out, but are not so happy when like the proverbial boomerang, when it comes back!
961 Posted 19/02/2012 at 14:04:45
964 Posted 19/02/2012 at 13:22:46
The point being that almost nobody is consistently entertaining. If you watch most of the games in the PL you will see countless examples of shit football. And a lot of them have greater resources than Moyes. Even Barca are getting criticised this season.
Having said that, Moyes does himself no favours sometimes. Overly defensive, "knife to a gunfight", etc, etc.
972 Posted 19/02/2012 at 15:18:10
I am watching Stevenage v Tottenham, and a shot of Joe Jordan on the Spurs bench just reminded me of 1995. He was a radio summariser for BBC and in (I think) the 4th round, we beat Bristol City 1-0 away thanks to a Matty Jackson special ? but how City didn't knock us out I don't think even they know. Joe said in his summary words to the effect of "Put your money on Everton for the cup", and I knew it was to be.
So let's just enjoy it. I'm not part of the MOB ? I desperately want him to succeed, or at least be given the chance to by new owners. But he does frustrate me at times. Not as frustrating as missing the first 8 minutes of the game yesterday though.
977 Posted 19/02/2012 at 15:52:49
How others see us eh.
117 Posted 19/02/2012 at 23:42:55
Nick, yes, I think Moyes COULD be successful one day. I just don't think that it will be with Everton. Some times two things just don't match. He came when we were a struggling club and brought stability. He may be one of those managers that is good at doing that.
Now, we are a club that has moved into the top half, tasted Europe, sat at the top of the table (for a few hours), sat in second (for a few weeks) and played "half-seasons" that, if duplicated, would see us actually finishing nearer those places. Unfortunately, I don't see Moyes as being the manager that can take Everton beyond what he has done.
177 Posted 20/02/2012 at 09:26:14
For the argument above imo even when winning and on a good run both fans and managers want and expect more. The perfect game has never been played, one look at the table tells me every fan in the land has reason to be critical as no team is unbeaten as such there is room for improvement.
The improvement from big Dennis is amazing going from being the next Angel to looking as good as a 35m player, the energy and will to win from him added to the January signings may have made one or two take a look at there performances.
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