Speaking in his pre-match press conference, the manager agreed that the South African has "found somewhere he is happy", something clearly evident given his form since returning to Goodison in January.
"It would be great to keep him," Moyes said, "...so hopefully we will be able to do it.
"I will talk to the Chairman at the end of the season so I don't think there will be anything done before then."
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034 Posted 27/04/2012 at 16:11:13
Pienaar's future still in the balance
25 April 2012, 15:34
Despite finding form since returning to Everton on loan from Tottenham Hotspur, the future of Bafana Bafana captain and midfield kingpin Steven Pienaar remains in the balance.
Pienaar's agent and business manager, Rob Moore, said there had been no discussions at all with Everton or any other club regarding a permanent transfer of the Westbury-born and bred player.
Moore, however, made no bones about concealing the fact that he believed Pienaar's interests would be best served by remaining at Everton "where his style of play is ideally suited and he is highly appreciated."
But a boomeranging return on a permanent basis back to the Merseyside club is not without problems and complications ? not least of which concern a transfer fee for any possible deal.
Spurs paid Everton approximately R30-million for Pienaar, signing him on a three-year deal at a time when the Bafana captain's contract was approaching finality and he would have become a free agent within a period of six months.
Despite the aura and a renown that extends internationally, Everton are not a wealthy organisation and acquiring Pienaar is not something the Merseyside club can undertake without a degree of caution ? despite manager David Moyes making it clear they wanted the diminutive South African to stay on at the club.
It is not even quite as clear-cut as that, though, with Spurs feeling the current market value of Pienaar is a lot higher than R30-million because he is on a long-term contract ? and they are quite entitled to place a much higher transfer fee on his head.
Ironically and coincidentally, perhaps, because Pienaar was not called up by Harry Redknapp to make a single Premiership start during the present season, Spurs have sunk into an increasing slump since the South African's departure at the end of January.
"There were three clubs keen on signing Steven on a loan deal," Moore told kickoff, "but he wanted to go to Everton because he could fit into the scheme of things there immediately.
"At Stoke or Queens Park Rangers he would have been required to make a fresh start and this could have been more difficult.
"It has undoubtedly proved to be the right decision, with Steven able to demonstrate his talents to the full, while regaining his zest and enthusiasm.
"What is most important to him is that he keeps playing on a continual basis. Playing is what makes him happy."
043 Posted 27/04/2012 at 16:32:08
044 Posted 27/04/2012 at 16:40:58
Have a feeling that Spurs may have a new manager too which may mix things up...
048 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:09:09
Re-sale is not everything, even to Everton.
049 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:10:32
I was thinking the same thing!
051 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:14:15
Also when we sell Baines, will he be as effective as he has been? - that was printed with a Zippy voice in my head.
052 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:15:14
058 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:25:20
059 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:12:23
I would feel more comfortable if we got Drenthe if it is possible, as I fear Spurs will not want to hand Pienaar over for less then 5 million.
We would not be in this situation had Moyes signed him on a longer contract or given him what he wanted when he asked for it.
After 10 years with Moyes I now feel sick and tired, I want to not care but I find myself being addicted to following this club.
I wish I could just do what 5-10000 others have done and just stay away until Moyes and/or Kenwright is gone.
Watching Everton is as predictable as a soap opera these days, you know what will happen before it does.
The poor start to the season followed by a good end.
The pre-season tour to either Austrailia or US is useless.
I really hope Moyes leaves this summer, because if he does sign a new contract I think I will go mad.
Nothing personal against Moyes, I would like a frwesh change, a new face, a happy face that prefers to play attacking football!!!!
061 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:36:44
Whether Pienaar stays will have nothing to do with Moyes, it will do with whether we can afford him and whether his snake of an agent will try and buttfuck us for silly money.
Moyes has already said he wants him to stay so that's the end of his involvement.
Drenthe can go and kiss my fucking hoop, turning up pissed in the most important week of the season... ta ra fella.
"I wish I could just do what 5-10,000 others have done and just stay away until Moyes and/or Kenwright is gone." ? It's easy, just turn your computer off.
062 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:37:35
063 Posted 27/04/2012 at 17:58:28
We have no money.....
No money = No Pienaar
The only way he will be back will be on another loan.....
070 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:09:51
Pienaar on the other hand is a breath of fresh air to the team and fans ( as long as we forget his dopey spurs transfer ). I'd sign him but who knows what Spurs will ask for, cheeky bunch that lot.
071 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:22:23
073 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:21:42
Obviously with money, I even doubt we can get Pienaar, or this other player.
If we can get Pienaar, I would either try to pay massive wages on Hoilett, or gamble on a foreigner/lower league player.
Again, all seems quite unrealistic to me though
074 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:24:35
Jimmy Sørheim I echo your sentiments about it going stale under Moyes, but I do believe alot of it isn't down to him. I've been one to slag him off loads on these pages and elsewhere. But whoever we have it still be the same.
Say a new manager came in, thing's remained the same. Well no change there.
New manager came in we qualified for Europe, thus buying Kenwright more time.
There's a bigger problem than Moyes at the club and I understand how frustrating it is. I'm abroad this year, but had my season ticket renewed for next year and to be honest I've dreaded going the game for a few years now. But theres the bigger problem at this club is "our dear leader".
079 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:56:23
081 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:57:33
If that was the case-and I`m by no means certain it was-why not make the arrangement permanent although such a deal would need our club to match his not inconsiderable wage demands.
If Moyes does so he may be blowing the whole of his summer window budget!
083 Posted 27/04/2012 at 19:15:38
Pardon my cynicism!
084 Posted 27/04/2012 at 19:23:52
085 Posted 27/04/2012 at 19:11:44
086 Posted 27/04/2012 at 19:30:54
089 Posted 27/04/2012 at 18:51:39
The headbutting story made me smile.
So I started watching Everton because of Duncan Ferguson alone, I have never felt so happy as when I watched Duncan score against liverpool or united.
His passion and determination was just fantastic.
I have been searching for that feeling since Ferguson quit.
The only player that have exited me since then was Yakubu.
Now, I find myself being almost alone in thinking that Drenthe gives this team the little extra spark that every team needs.
Moyes has won over the fans by turning Drenthe into a scapegoat, when in truth Moyes could and should have dealt with Drenthe in a more proper way that fit the "crime".
It must be clear that Moyes had a choice to include him at the semi final but chose not to.
Since we were without Pienaar Drenthe was the only real alternative to replace him.
The mistake was made to exclude Drenthe, and we lost a match we probably could have won if we had Drenthe.
I am still angry after we lost that game, and to me Moyes is to blame for losing.
I like Drenthe as a player and I feel he will turn into a great player, but to show up late for training because of personal problems is not good.
The time and place of it makes me wonder if he has become depressed.
SO given his personal problems and his leave to Holland, I just think that Moyes could have handled Drenthe in a better way.
I remember Jo coming back late from Brazil, he was sent back to Man.City.
In Jo Moyes did the right thing.
I am certain Drenthe will come back to haunt us if we do not sign him.
Time will tell, but if it is true that he has signed a pre-contract for Liverpool then that will be a constant nightmare of what could be.
Drenthe should get to play before the season ends, if only to give him a last chance to atone for his sins.
093 Posted 27/04/2012 at 19:44:08
097 Posted 27/04/2012 at 20:05:31
Jimmy, I had no choice about supporting Everton from the day I was born. Resented it for a while but I'm so grateful to my dad now. I have just hit 35 and, much as I enjoyed Ferguson, I think it's a bit of a shame that you are reminiscing about that stretch as some sort of golden era.
I think Moyes is wonderful. Could use an acronym like IMO or say something like "end of", but there is no end... that's surely part of the point of a forum. I appreciate the articulate and frustrated arguments against our manager; it would be lovely to acknowledge a few shades of grey rather than branding any poster as an out and out Moyes apologist or BU fanatic (if such a thing even exists).
Why am I finally posting? Partly because I am a bit pissed after a birthday night out but ? to aim for something a touch more profound ? because I love this club. This is the first website I go to (live in Malaysia nowadays) and the comments are so articulate, so well argued... but I think that a lot of the negative stuff is a bit of a dead end.
Anyway. IMO (we have to say that, as if we might be posting somebody else's opinion or, even worse, the objective truth) Stracq is a great guy but not good enough; Ste P is the priority; Anichebe has energy but surely has to go; Jelly is so good that his signing ALONE vindicates Moyes's approach to a massive club on a shoestring budget.
Even Baines (my personal favourite) disappeared at Wembley... it is an imprecise science but I still enjoy following this club, still got goose bumps for the 4-4, still sit up late into the night because there are few better feelings than seeing Everton win.
109 Posted 27/04/2012 at 21:28:53
He`a waster and such people you can`t help as they are determined to squander their talent.
112 Posted 27/04/2012 at 21:46:42
Well Im obviously on my own here, but if he wasnt such a money grabbing, contract refusing sell-out.. he would still have been our player and played at Wembley.
If he / or his agent, plays hard ball over a transfer back to us, I would tell him to do one.
As for Drenthe, he is everything what is wrong with modern footballers. Royston, you aint Georgie Best.. grow up you clown.
115 Posted 27/04/2012 at 21:30:33
116 Posted 27/04/2012 at 22:01:29
117 Posted 27/04/2012 at 22:11:05
118 Posted 27/04/2012 at 22:12:53
119 Posted 27/04/2012 at 22:28:46
Hey we have an aura and a renown that extends internationally!
174 Posted 28/04/2012 at 08:59:17
However, he's been awesome since he got back. I'd like to think he's learnt that the grass isn't greener on the other side and we are the right fit for him. I've always liked him as a player, he's quality, so for me Id be tempted to offer him a long term deal that kept him here for good.
179 Posted 28/04/2012 at 09:13:19
He is also playing for a new deal from any club that will pay him the highest wages. Its a possibilty this may have something to do with it!!
And, fuck me, his agent is a gobshite.
457 Posted 29/04/2012 at 10:47:46
I can't see Spurs letting him go for less that £5m.
530 Posted 29/04/2012 at 16:06:51
686 Posted 30/04/2012 at 14:34:30
Why are we even talking about a situation that never would have happened if the board had paid the man his true value? He has always given 100% and even when he was in the pay dispute he did not let it affect his efforts on the field. He was worth at least as much as anybody else at the club.
734 Posted 30/04/2012 at 20:09:52
"If You Could Turn Back Time"
Thing is... you can't.
741 Posted 30/04/2012 at 20:58:40
His argument was "it's all ifs buts and maybes, maybe Pienaar wanted more than Arteta and Everton rightly didn't want to break their wage ceiling"
We agreed to disagree, as neither of knew the circumstances of his transfer.
One thing we did agree on, we should make him our number 1 priority this summer - cost permitting.
768 Posted 30/04/2012 at 22:35:07
769 Posted 30/04/2012 at 22:35:46
I believe he didn't want to go and Moyes wanted to keep him. Just like he wants back in and Moyes wants him to stay.
The money wasn't there for Moyes to pull the trigger on a new deal. So Stevie left for a higher wage. God knows how many mouths he's feeding back in South Africa.
058 Posted 02/05/2012 at 04:51:43
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