Everton News, Season 2011-12

Everton vs Newcastle United

12/05/2012 |  37 Comments: First  |  Last

Everton close out a season that threatened misery but instead gives cause for some optimism with a home game against Champions League-chasing Newcastle United.

The Blues can secure seventh place and finish above bitter rivals Liverpool for only the second time since the inception of the Premier League with a victory but the Barcodes have everything to play for themselves. If they win and both Arsenal and Tottenham lose, Alan Pardew's men will steal third place. Even if the Gunners don't lose but Spurs do, the Geordies would still secure the last Champions League qualifying slot... at least temporarily.

Their hopes of jumping onto Europe's gravy train will rest on how Chelsea fare against Bayern Munich next week. If the Londoners were to win the Champions League final they would rob the Geordies of the chance to play in next season's competition as only four English teams can qualify for the Champions League each season.

So, with so much at stake — depending on how Fulham and Liverpool do in their respective games, the result could be worth £1.6m to Eveton — this will not be an end-of-season stroll at Goodison Park and the Blues know they will have to earn what would be a fifth successive victory on the last day of the season. As far as omens go, one of those final-day successes was a 3-1 win over Newcastle.

The good news for David Moyes is that he could welcome back three players who have missed out recently through injury. Leighton Baines and Phil Neville have recovered from hamstring strains and Darron Gibson is also in contention but Jack Rodwell and Victor Anichebe remain sidelined and must now look forward to next season.

Should Baines be selected — it's not clear how much Moyes would risk him given the looming European Championships and the player's hopes of participating — it's likely that Sylvain Distin would drop back to the substitute's bench despite picking up the Everton players' player of the year award in midweek.

Neville may start on the bench come what may but Gibson would no doubt start if he is passed fit and partner either Marouane Fellaini or Tim Cahill in central midfield. On the flanks, Steven Pienaar and Leon Osman are the likely starters, with Nikica Jelavic up front and looking to add to his impressive 10 goals in all competitions.

More than half of the Croat's shots on goal have been on target this season and he's scored eight League goals from just 18 efforts on goal.

Having failed to get the job done at Wolves in what was, ultimately, a disappointing goalless draw despite the refereeing injustice that denied Jelavic another goal, Goodison will be expectant of a rousing performance to end the season on a good note and salvage some Mersey pride.

More importantly, though, they will garner the maximum prize revenue still available if they can claim seventh place and make the reds' game at Swansea and Fulham's at Spurs redundant.

Lyndon Lloyd

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Norman Merrill
463   Posted 12/05/2012 at 09:28:46

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As I put on a earlier thread, Sunday's game is double-edged. Newcastle can finish 4th with a win, and we can finish 7th with the same result. Our oponents will bring a big support, and very vocal, and I am sure our lads around the Old Lady will really be up for it.

With both teams dropping points recently, that they thought would be safe, it's last chance saloon tomorrow. I would really like to think that we will finish above the red side, but it's which Everton will turn up? And not another false dawn?
Lenny Kingman
492   Posted 12/05/2012 at 13:46:30

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I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds the headline "seventh is ours to lose" frankly ridiculous.
Jamie Crowley
493   Posted 12/05/2012 at 13:55:08

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If we win, it will at least be some consolation finishing above The Shite in what can be defined as an average season, with a few highs and some awful lows. But having them look UP at us, despite the "Rodwell game", the "Capitulation"' and "The Back Pass" would provide some satisfaction.

If we lose and those shitbags knick us on the last day of the season...

Total, undeniable failure of a season. Simply awful.
Jem Traynor
495   Posted 12/05/2012 at 14:08:37

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Well said, Jamie, I need some sort of consolation from this season and the shite games we played in!

Firstly we had the Atkinson show, then the cotton wool FA Cup effort and the backpass. We all heard what Souness said about KKK's pre-match talk to his crew, he'll be sending them out to claim seventh and ? more importantly to them ? finish above us!!! That will piss me off if that does happen! COYB!!!!
Dick Fearon
497   Posted 12/05/2012 at 14:28:13

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After those shameful surrenders to the RS anything less than a win is all we need.

Regardless what the result, I will never forget nor forgive Moyes for what he did to us.
Andrew Cunningham
520   Posted 12/05/2012 at 16:28:34

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I think 7th would be a pass mark this year!!
Tom Bowers
560   Posted 12/05/2012 at 23:01:48

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Barcodes have much more incentive to win this game and will fire on all cylinders.
Ben Arfa had a cracker here last season. Blues need to wrap him up tight. Ossie will take care of him - right?
From we, the fans point of view,to finish above Redshite is the ultimate incentive and we know they are playing the Swans who have no incentive.
Notwithstanding all this I hope we finish in style. We have had very little to shout about this season except maybe wins against City and Chelski along with a crediable draw against Manure with the biggest disappointment being 3 derby match defeats. A win tomorrow may help sweeten that bad taste.
Tony Marsh
565   Posted 12/05/2012 at 23:38:29

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Dick,

I'm with you; regardless of league placings, we have no right trying to gain some credibility from finishing above the RS as they have walloped us 3 times this season. The Wembley shambles being the worst in living memory. Yes, it's nice to finish as high as possible but it doesn't really matter who is below it's who's above we should aim our energy at...

Gloating about a possible higher finish than the RS is wrong in so many ways. I am still in shock from the Anfield game, by the way... never mind Wembley.
Mike Hughes
567   Posted 13/05/2012 at 00:00:07

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Trust me.
Everton 4 Newcastle 1
Hibbert and Neville to score.

Suarez to sport a new Hitler moustache and Freddie Starr knee-length Adolph shorts. He subsequently gets sent off for "excessive diving and mimicking a rodent" revealing his new swastika tattoo as he goose-steps off the pitch.

Dalglish bemoans lack of funds: "It's tough on a shoestring budget."

LFC sign Drenthe who lamps Suarez (broken jaw and 5 broken ribs) in a training ground spat. Suarez whining in pain becomes a YouTube sensation.

City draw, United win (but who cares?)

An Everton supporting consortium win the Euromillions and redevelop Goodison Park. Cushions and free pie and a pint provided for those in the Top Balcony - forever.

DM is given his "chink of light" and everyone (EFC) lives happily ever after.

Reds liquidated and merge with Rangers to re-form as a Scottish 4th division outfit with John Barnes managing and Rab C Nesbit as fitness coach.

COYB.


Jamie Tulacz
568   Posted 13/05/2012 at 00:33:36

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Mike Hughes- brilliant, had me in stitches! I'll have some of what you've been drinking!
Derek Thomas
577   Posted 13/05/2012 at 04:22:03

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Newcastle need to win, so no parking the bus, 1 point in our favour. We need to win, given our record in such 'sudden death', must win, knock-out cup-tie games, a point against us.

So Davy, not one ounce of KITAP1 must enter your thinking, this is not a day for the percantage approach, the 'trying not to lose' ethos, will cost us money AND let in the RS.

Given the way we are sometimes 'too nice'... not that we want to be stevie gbh in the reffs face either, it's about wanting it, and being prepared to getting it. Have we anybody in the Club to do this....

True story; Nobby Stiles (not backward in putting himself about) Said..

"I was in the bathroom at Wembley, before the Argentina game putting in my contacts, when Harold Shepperton (Ramsey's assistant) came in, grabbed me by the throat up against the wall and said... 'You're NOT going to let Alf down are you?'... I just shook my head."

Only Winners need apply.
Peter Barry
580   Posted 13/05/2012 at 04:12:37

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Mike Hughes # 567 ? You could add:-

Davey Boy growing some balls and sending out an attacking team motivated by being told how INFERIOR the and vulnerable the opposition is.

Also Davey Boy buying attackers not MORE defenders and defensive midfielders.

Both of which are as likely to happen as your list of improbabilities.
Peter Barry
581   Posted 13/05/2012 at 05:42:47

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Seems like Tom Bowers # 560 is preparing Dire Dour Davey's excuses for him like a good loyal apologist.

When I SARCASTICALLY did the same prior to the Wolves game, Davey Boy's loyal attack dogs berated me viciously.

I look forward to seeing Tom receive some of the same.
Sam Hoare
583   Posted 13/05/2012 at 06:42:24

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Peter, do you and Jimmy Sorheim hang out much?
Anto Byrne
585   Posted 13/05/2012 at 06:40:32

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This really is a must-win game: at home, full house, 1-0 will do.
Chris Leyland
586   Posted 13/05/2012 at 07:52:26

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Peter Barry, I don't see Tom preparing any excuses at all. He is actually saying we should win, isn't he? Surely you want this too don't you? Or is being as to post a dour, dire Davey post more important than winning to you?

It would be nice if you didn't always post exactly the same thing on every thread (i.e. an iliteration of the letter 'd' or a 'funny' play on words on the IMWT phrase). It is getting a bit like Jimmy Sorheim's Drenthe posts to be honest.

We know you are a fully paid up member of the MOB and this is your prerogative. How about expanding on how you see us moving forward without the anti-Christ as manager and what you think we should be acheiving as a club on the pitch each year?
Paul Dewhurst
588   Posted 13/05/2012 at 08:24:55

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I fancy a good result today, when teams come to goodison to win. Like City Chelsea Spurs - we do well as there is space to play, it's when we face 10 men behind the ball and the onus is on us to break them down, that's when we fall on our face. That and when we routinely bottle it again the shite and the gooners.
John Ford
591   Posted 13/05/2012 at 08:33:03

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Peter, your posts are quite bizzare. They consist, generally of two things. Very general and swingeing criticism of Moyes and his supporters (the usual rubbish about apologists, or thinking he can do no wrong etc etc ? i.e misrepresentation) which is easily beaten down ? followed by something more thought out and targeted. It's like a child being told off repeatedly, then behaving itself.

Pavlov's dog springs to mind too ? we don't play well and you start to salivate, and out come the capital 'D's.

You also rarely, if ever, give credit when its due.
John Ford
592   Posted 13/05/2012 at 08:42:45

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I too wish people would stop referring to the RS. It's small club mentality.

I expect a strong performance today and a narrow win. Jelavic once again to give us something to be hopeful about next season.

COYFBB.
Barry Rathbone
594   Posted 13/05/2012 at 09:05:13

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Moyes needs 7th so that next year or the year after when we play the same old way, cave at the usual big games, the same old names can support his deity, saying "Remember, we finished above Liverpool!!"

Not arsed meself because the truth is, when the day came, we bottled it. I also read the RS are after Martinez. We are fucked if he goes there, probably the only intelligent independent minded men capable of rebuilding a club using fluid attacking play. I'm depressed now ? desperately wanted him here.
Ray Jacques
595   Posted 13/05/2012 at 09:22:03

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Barry, well said.

I am looking forward to the game as it's the last until next season and want us to finish with a win.

Hopefully 2-0 up with 5 minutes to go and let Hibbert take a last minute pen.

As for finishing above Liverpool, I couldn't give a toss.

Any blue with an ounce of self respect surely wouldn't put forward this as an arguement to a RS supporter that we had a better season because we finished above them after the recent debacles!!!!

I think it is called a pyrrhic or hollow victory, ie it means nothing.

This season will always be remembered for the semi-final, not that we finished 7th, 8th or even 9th.
Jimmy Sørheim
599   Posted 13/05/2012 at 09:42:00

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Based on the line up against wolves it does not look like Moyes really wants to get the 7th spot.

How typical it would be if Moyes tanks this game too and after says 9th was a good result to this season.

I have to be honest and say that I think Moyes will fail under pressure again, like he did in the semi final.

To lose 3 times in one season against the worst red side in a long time is just not good enough, no matter what happens in the Newcastle game, all I and many others will remember from this season is the loss of the semi final, and our best chance since 95 to get another trophy.

Hope we win this game, but it is not like we gain Europa League if we win, so Newcastle will give it their all since they are fighting for CL.
Thomas Windsor
602   Posted 13/05/2012 at 10:17:17

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Moyes the bottler will blow it. Time for a new face at Everton for me ? not giving Moyes longer at the club.

Kenwright should have had the balls to sack David after them 3 defeats against the worst Liverpool team in years.
John Ford
603   Posted 13/05/2012 at 10:19:19

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Daft comment, Jimmy. Moyes cleary went for the win against Wolves, as the attempts on target and dominance we had shows. We just weren't good enough and didn't have the luck (or refereeing) on the day.

To suggest that Moyes took a conscious decision to put out a team to 'avoid winning' is silly. It was basically the same set up as previous games when we were scoring goals freely.

The Liverpool game was shit, we can agree on that.
Peter Barry
608   Posted 13/05/2012 at 10:43:08

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@ Sam Hoare #583 No Sam but how about you and Dour Dire Davey you seem to spout the same defensive apologetic drivel he does.
Peter Barry
611   Posted 13/05/2012 at 10:44:59

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@ John Ford # 591.

John, until this season, I was fairly appreciative of Moyes; however, that all went out of the window when we suffered yet ANOTHER pathetic start to the season and THREE ? count them, THREE weak surrenders including an FA Cup SF to what is most probably the weakest RS team we will see in decades.

So, while I do appreciate winning and thought that our three 4-goal games on the trot was excellent, unlike you apologists, that just makes me wonder WHY he can't get the team to play like that more often and in the first half of a season too. They were achieved with the same players, give or take, but with a different MENTALITY and that is what Davey is lacking ? the WINNING mentality ? and he will never get one, so he must go.
Simon Harris
612   Posted 13/05/2012 at 10:18:51

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Full house, good atmosphere and a 2-1 win ? Moyes and his boys receive the traditional warm GP send-off.

Followed by the standard groundhog summer of mediocre (insane) transfer expectations firmly quashed, while other clubs of lesser standing strengthen. Leaving Moyes to work his magic again next season.

And all the time, Kenwright's search for Spock continues to plod on quietly in the background: tick tock, tick tock...
Kevin Tully
615   Posted 13/05/2012 at 11:13:11

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Surely there will be a queue of big clubs outside Bill's door to sign Mr Moyes? One year left on his contract, very little compensation to pay ? one of the best managers around.
Jim Knightley
618   Posted 13/05/2012 at 11:37:41

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Clearly not the same players though is it Peter? Jelavic and Pienarr have completely transformed our team, and have been influencial in pretty much every good win we've had. Gibson, likewise, has improved the balance, and Fellaini has benefited. It's like taking Messi and Xavi out of Barcelona for half a season, and saying that the team is basically the same, give or take. Or do you actually think we would have achieved our second half of the season without messrs Pienarr, Jelavic, Gibson and Donovan?
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And yet more Derby stuff....when did derby results become a barometer of a team's success? The semi matters, but the league derby IS just as important as every game, because if offers the same amount of points. You can complain all you like, but no other team makes so much fuss over the derby results, except for perhaps Spurs (which may say something about both our mentality's). If we finish above Liverpool, the league results against them won't matter. I get a feeling on here, that some of you would rather finish 9th and beat Liverpool twice, than 7th and lose to them twice.
Jim Knightley
619   Posted 13/05/2012 at 11:37:41

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Clearly not the same players though is it Peter? Jelavic and Pienarr have completely transformed our team, and have been influencial in pretty much every good win we've had. Gibson, likewise, has improved the balance, and Fellaini has benefited. It's like taking Messi and Xavi out of Barcelona for half a season, and saying that the team is basically the same, give or take. Or do you actually think we would have achieved our second half of the season without messrs Pienarr, Jelavic, Gibson and Donovan?
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And yet more Derby stuff....when did derby results become a barometer of a team's success? The semi matters, but the league derby IS just as important as every game, because if offers the same amount of points. You can complain all you like, but no other team makes so much fuss over the derby results, except for perhaps Spurs (which may say something about both our mentality's). If we finish above Liverpool, the league results against them won't matter. I get a feeling on here, that some of you would rather finish 9th and beat Liverpool twice, than 7th and lose to them twice.
Mark Stone
620   Posted 13/05/2012 at 11:55:11

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Jim, they haven't had much to moan about the second of the season - leave them to it mate.
Paul David
624   Posted 13/05/2012 at 12:01:14

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Jim

Seeing as we're now a top mid table side that needs to have a really good season just to get into the uefa cup has placed more importance on the derby.We dont look like winning anything so we have to take success were we can and that means the derby.

Even if we were challenging for the title the derby would still be the on top of my list of games we have to win and thats why i'm disgusted and will never forgive Moyes for what he did at Anfield.
Tony I'Anson
626   Posted 13/05/2012 at 12:50:52

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A win is the equivalent of the wages of a £30,000 a week player for a season coming/staying at Goodison or not. I really couldn't care less about how any of the other teams get on today. I just want Everton to win.
Ryan Holroyd
627   Posted 13/05/2012 at 12:58:34

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Completely agree Tony. Everton are playing a game of football and i want Everton to always. No matter what. £1.6m is a massive amount money for a club with our very limited finances. Could be the difference between Pienaar coming or going.
John Ford
630   Posted 13/05/2012 at 13:17:15

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Peter B...i dont think its the winning mentality that's missing, and certainly this season its easy to point to a weak squad (lack of investment for 2 yrs) up until the January sales, hence the poor start. I believe we were relegation fodder until then, and BK was forced to move.

As for previous (3?) seasons and the slow starts....im fecked if I know why! Over a season though , at least in league terms Moyes does well. Unlike most teams rather than constant ups and downs, we have long mediocre spells then equally long periods of really good form. This is probably more frustrating than the former, because it really shows how good we could be.

Its also why this summer if we can retain our top players and even add a couple, I'll be expecting a strong challenge next year. The flip side to this? - if we cant sign Piennar and then Johhny or Fellaini go, Moyes has to again rebuild the spine of the team.......and is it realistic to expect us to perform well after another change of key personnel?
Sam Hoare
632   Posted 13/05/2012 at 14:25:14

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Ha Peter Barry, lecturing me on speaking drivel? The man who says I'm not being presumptuous but we are definitely going to lose!

Bet you're gagging for a magpies win today so you can end the season on a good moan!
Mike Manchester
634   Posted 13/05/2012 at 15:03:20

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Anyone got a stream please.

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