The Rumour Mill, Season 2011-12

Pienaar set for permanent return

27/03/2012 | Comments (31)
Reportedly, Everton will engage Tottenham Hotspur over the possibility of bringing Steven Pienaar back to the club on a permanent basis at the end of the season.

David Moyes will seek to bring him back permanently, with a £2.5-million deal set to be tabled. That is similar to the amount that Spurs paid for the 30-year-old in January 2011, though his time at White Hart Lane was a frustrating one, stunted by injury.

Original Source: SuperSports

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Paul Ellam
955   Posted 27/03/2012 at 16:16:34

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I think this would be a good move. I know some fans have burned their bridges with him but I would take him back. He is a good player to have, fits the team well and at around that price would be affordable.
I would also get in Jelle Vossen from Genk. He is a terrific striker, would be relatively cheap compared to others, has good experience at the top level and is a big mate of Fellaini so would settle easy enough.
With him and Jelavic as options up front I would be very happy!
Dan McKie
968   Posted 27/03/2012 at 16:44:58

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I do like Pienaar, but he is slightly older than we should be looking. In a year or 2 time we will have yet another 30 something high earner with no sell on value.
Jeremy Benson
970   Posted 27/03/2012 at 16:50:13

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I wasn't sure about having Pienaar back on loan. And truth is, I'm not sure about a permanent deal after what happened. And he is older than we would hope for.

But if anyone can show me another play-maker of his quality available for £2.5 million in the summer, then please do....because beggars can't be choosers and he would be a good buy.
Tom Hughes
973   Posted 27/03/2012 at 16:59:27

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The truth is we shouldn't have lost him in the first place. I would feel a hell of a lot more confidennt about tonight if he was available. It isn't just about his ability on the ball.... its how he combines with Baines and others to link everything together. He makes it all work and gives us someone who can carry the ball.....
Roberto Birquet
031   Posted 27/03/2012 at 20:20:42

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Dan
In a year or 2 time we will have yet another 30 something high earner with no sell on value.
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Yeah, but that's why we won't be paying £10 m. Defo under £4m fior that reason. I'd like both he and donovan as a pair of 30 year olds, as they fit right in and transform us going forward on either flank. We're unpredictable with them.

We can go for youth with the back ups and the middle; Gueye, Coleman, Felli, Rodwell, Barkley.
£7 m for the pair. Only thing is, where'd we get £7 million???
Jem Traynor
059   Posted 27/03/2012 at 22:48:40

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Two Words says it for me... IS RIGHT!!!

We look a different side now he's back. I only hope the Cockneys don't try to have our kecks off with the sale though.
Victor Chang
072   Posted 27/03/2012 at 23:06:23

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If we can get him for £2.5m it'd be like we'd saved a years wages whilst he was mostly injured anyway.
Cenric Clement-Evans
088   Posted 27/03/2012 at 23:31:47

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The way he played against Swansea it's a no brainer-it was great to see him again linking up with Baines once Fellaini was introduced (prior to that he had cut inside most of the time)
Good also to see competition down the left with Gueye's continued development as evidenced tonight
Chris Jones [Burton]
102   Posted 28/03/2012 at 00:21:50

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Well, an FA Cup quarter final, replay, and now a Wembley semi, plus revenues From the final and prize money for lifting the cup, and Peinaar will be paid for - with change left over to buy someone else besides...!
James Flynn
128   Posted 28/03/2012 at 01:57:05

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Roberto (031) - Keeping in mind, Peanuts and LD are 2 tiny little fuckers. Lot less to go wrong with their bodies (And God knows how many people Piennar is supporting back in his SA Township).

Would like to see both of them in for a full season.
Eric Myles
133   Posted 28/03/2012 at 02:14:51

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But what about his wages? He left because we wouldn't pay what he asked, are we suddenly going to give it to him now?

I just hope Baines is still here next season for Pienaar to be of use to us.
Jason Lam
154   Posted 28/03/2012 at 07:04:32

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This is not the same Pienaar that left us. The old one was indecisive, final ball was nowhere, pissing about in circles going nowhere, like a lost moaning child at times.

This one on loan is more direct, barking orders to his teammates, taking the offensive game by the scruff of the neck, making decisions on behalf on the team. Maybe he has given a free rein without Arteta or he's pick up some audacity, selfishness, pigheadness that comes with the rich London clubs. He's playing in a more dominate role like the playmaker of South Africa that he his, not just the old sidekick to Baines. Sign him up!
Sam Hoare
157   Posted 28/03/2012 at 07:30:32

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Think peanut is a great player and was delighted when we signed him back on loan.

The trouble as ever is money. We have so little that I'm not sure how much we can afford to spend on someone with no resale value who may only have 2-3 years left at his peak.

2.5m is pretty cheap but could still be half our transfer budget. 5m may be enough to get someone like victor Moses or Wilfred zaha who could well be worth 15 m a few years down the line.
James Stewart
166   Posted 28/03/2012 at 08:44:45

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If we could add Pienaar at 2m and Barnes & Rodeglla on a free. Then maybe afford one main purchase like Zaha, it would be happy days!
John Corrigan
241   Posted 28/03/2012 at 12:54:37

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Pienaar brings the best out of Baines like no other player has done on that left hand side, he's a fantastically gifted player and for £2.5m is a bargain.

The reasons he left were justified, no motivation to perform due to small squad, wanting to test himself, nothing wrong with that. Makes me laugh to read people lick his arse on Twitter, 12 months after calling him all the names under the Sun. They now claim it was 'mere banter', when in fact it's just inherent immaturity on their part.

Pienaar is a superb player, always puts a shift in, suits the way we play perfectly.
Jan Kaiser
283   Posted 28/03/2012 at 15:00:33

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Peanut back for £2.5 mill today that is a bargain.

Ok he left us in a way no Evertonian could be happy about but we all make mistakes and I'll be happy to see him back in blue for good.

Pienaar said himself "it's like coming home" when he joined on loan and I think we should welcome a permanent return of our "lost" child - just to bad we can't play him in the semis against the other team..

COYB
Christopher Brierley
326   Posted 28/03/2012 at 17:00:57

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From what i hear from another Everton fan on another website who also works in the legal area for Spurs. It is pretty much already a done deal. For some reason there wasnt enough time to sort out the paperwork for a permenant deal in the final hours of the Jan Transfer window and so it had to be a loan for now.
The lad is usually quite reliable in Spurs matters ( broke the news that Spurs had scuppered the Kyle Naughton deal when we had agreed a fee with Sheffield Utd)
Keith Glazzard
362   Posted 28/03/2012 at 18:32:08

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I hope we get the deal. Being 'out on loan' seems to have done him good, perhaps giving him a bit of swagger in a team without Arteta as has been suggested. His confidence and appetite are at very high levels now.

The second half against Swansea was masterful, and when Fellaini joined in on the hour we looked unstoppable. His return has to be good for everyone.
Drew O'Neall
369   Posted 28/03/2012 at 19:14:50

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Can't help but think the £2.5m Spurs will charge us (plus the lost revenue from the lower finishing position) would have been better speculated on keeping him here at contract renewal time.
Kieran Fitzgerald
372   Posted 28/03/2012 at 19:32:38

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I still think it will be sell to buy this summer. At best, we might raise a couple of million for Yobo. If needed, I would be happy to sell jags if it meant keeping Hetinga and Distan and bringing in another creative player. If we get Pienaar for a couple of million, even for a little over what he is worth, I would take him. He knows the club and the squad and there would be no settling in period.
Shaun Marran
378   Posted 28/03/2012 at 19:58:36

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@ James Flynn 128 ... As a South African and Everton fan, the SA Township comment is uncalled for. Not everyone in SA has a family of 20 or lives in a "township"
Dan Brierley
390   Posted 28/03/2012 at 20:36:42

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Shaun 378, your comment is ridiculous. Pienaar is FROM a Township in Johannesburg. James is quite rightly pointing out how much charity work Pienaar does locally.

Back on track, I do not think we will see Pienaar back, unless he cuts his wage demands (i.e. the reason he left in the first place). And as good as he has been since he has come back, I would still prefer to see us use what little money we have on bringing in a younger player with a longer future.
Phil Walling
483   Posted 29/03/2012 at 08:05:06

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I`d like to see him here next season but i certainly wouldn`t break the bank to make it possible.
He always looks `good on the ball`,but too often the killer pass is missing and his runs end in the move breaking down and possession being surrendered.Fair do`s to the lad,he`s then prepared to run like fuck to retrieve it but I can well understand why Redknapp would let him go.
On the night,I thought Gaye`s more direct approach was just right for providing the service which Jelavic will thrive on.
Ciarán McGlone
484   Posted 29/03/2012 at 08:18:05

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There's no way they'll accept £2.5 mill.

If it comes to a choice between him and Drenthe, then it's Ricky for me, without hesitation.
Matthew Tait
522   Posted 29/03/2012 at 11:37:22

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The big concern is his wages. I'd happily have him back for a £2.5m transfer fee, but I'd be far from happy if it means we have to pay him £70k a week or whatever spurs are paying him. But if he's willing to take a pretty hefy pay cut to come back and get regular playing time, then as long as the contract isn't for more than three years he should be good value
Richard Dodd
548   Posted 29/03/2012 at 11:09:22

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Well, you'd better get used to the idea, Wally. We are going to win the Cup!
James Stewart
744   Posted 30/03/2012 at 11:34:20

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I don't see why it should be a choice between him and drenthe. If we have any ambition left in our bones it has to be both.
Eric Myles
747   Posted 30/03/2012 at 11:40:08

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^James, it can't be both because we don't have enough money for both and the money from the players we sell will go to the bank to pay debt and make the accounts look artificially good again.
Jim Knightley
749   Posted 30/03/2012 at 12:08:24

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I think we could get him for 2.5...Spurs ask for alot for their players, but they won't be asking for more than 2.5 million for a player who has barely featured for them, especially as they want to move for Hazard. Unless Bale goes along with Dos Santos, he will be available (especially if they follow their interest up in Hoilett).

Whether we can afford him or not, is another matter. Hopefully this cup run would have been helped, especially if we can manage a decent league position, whilst our wages are lower than last season. But I'm still worried we are going to have to sell to buy, which will delay moves for the very good free transfers available this summer.
James Martin
757   Posted 30/03/2012 at 12:54:00

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Pienaar is twice the player Moses or Gueye will ever be. Techincally gifted, strong in retention of the ball, and he's added an increased goal threat to his game. He was brilliant against both Chelsea and Swansea. With him and Drenthe on the flanks, Jelavic up top with Fellaini and Gibson in midfield we only need to sort out a long term eventual replacement for Cahill in the number 10 mould to have a really good balanced team. If we could get a RB for when Pip goes (or if Coleman can develop in that role ) then we'd have one of the best starting 11s in the league.
Adam Luszniak
770   Posted 30/03/2012 at 13:21:20

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Why couldn't it be pienarr and drenthe? I thought drenthe would be available on a free due to his contract expiring? So that would mean paying 2.5m for pienarr and then the matter of both their wages? Pienarr surely can't ask for the same terms he demanded before he left, as he pissed off to a 'bigger' club who could afford his wages but he sat on his friggin arse for half a season. So it's either he accepts lower wages or he goes back to warming the bench in London. He'd be stupid not to bight our hands off.

Then again, whether we should take drenthe on is another matter. Flashes of genius and stupidity in equal measure. Hopefully we can sign him and Moyes can tame tricky ricky.

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