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Andy McNabb
020 Posted 17/02/2013 at 02:08:16
You summed it up Ken. Too much respect but in such a tight ground, a bobbly surface and against a team with nothing to lose, it always looks easier from the stands, or on TV.

When are the authorities going to address the circus which goes on at corners? I know I'm biased but I don't believe we exploit this situation like other clubs. If we have players trying to do the right thing at corners then we are quite simply going to concede at one end and fail to score at the other, for the rest of the season.

Gerry Morrison
021 Posted 17/02/2013 at 02:14:00
Nice report Ken. As someone who watched the game on the telly, it was great to see Hibbo, a real Evertonian, sitting with the rest of our supporters.
Ian Allaker
028 Posted 17/02/2013 at 03:19:09
It was great seeing Hibbo in the crowd, he probably would have done better than Neville with one leg.

I can't believe how out of hand the pushing and shoving has got in both boxes for set pieces; something has to be done about it. Good job Jags scored from the corner because I doubt we would have been given the penalty even though their defender rugby-tackled him to the ground in some sort of bear hug.

It's strange because on one hand the game seems to becoming a non-contact sport with regards to tackling in open play but corners have become like a rugby match and it is becoming acceptable to have your arms all over the opposing player.

Andy McNabb
029 Posted 17/02/2013 at 03:46:08
I agree, Ian. If you look at the picture which accompanies the BBC match report, our main header of the ball (Jags) is buried under a scrum of about 4 players and their keeper appears to be sitting on top of the pile.
Mike Gaynes
032 Posted 17/02/2013 at 03:41:30
All the little fish have grown big teeth this year... witness Arsenal knocked out at home today by Rovers... Brentford squaring Chelsea... Barnsley making the final eight with a bunch of retreads... and even Oldham knocking out the RS before squaring us. We may not like it, but this is a fun year in the Cup.

And we will take these guys 3-1 in the replay.

Trevor Lynes
035 Posted 17/02/2013 at 04:22:54
Am I the only one who thinks their equalizer was a foul?? It was more like a rugby line-out than a football match. Their goalkeeper jumped with BOTH hands in the air and blatantly blocked everyone near him. If that is allowed then Stoke should be top of the league, but they cant get away with it in the Premier League.

I also believe that a draw was a fair result, but that last minute goal would have been disallowed normally. It was reminiscent of the Nat Lofthouse days!!!!!

Derek Thomas
036 Posted 17/02/2013 at 04:10:00
This is the magic of the FA Cup but then again it's not new. Worcester Town, Yeovil, Hereford, Shrewsbury etc, too many to count, why the surprise, Moyes himself mentioned preparation and attitude earlier in the week.

So it's a replay a week on Wed, should be a good night. I'm glad it isn't this week I think that Anichebe and Pienaar might've struggled to make it...just like Neville did on Sat.

Seriously, it's like playing with 10 men.

People have criticised Us on numerous ocassions for sitting too far back and to this day we ( I ) don't know can't tell if it is deliberate or a result of decent teams coming out in the 2nd half and, having had their collective arses kicked by the coach upping their game.

So it's the Cup but it is also L1 do we blame it on Oldham, The Players, the Instructions from the bench, Or is it a deeper institutionalised failing....all together now.

Don't blame it on the sunshine

Don't blame it on the midnight.

Blame it on the goodtimes.

Blame it on the boogie.

Ow sunshine.

Ooh Moonlight.

Yeah Goodtimes.

MmmBoogie

Yeah Moyes out

Derek Thomas
037 Posted 17/02/2013 at 04:38:25
Trevor (#035) Don't forget that they had chances to draw AND win it except for League One finishing and Tim today having one of his less error-prone games.

Your right Re the Line out Fifa etc have got to jump all over this (pun intended) even if it means 6 aside game which means the game is abandoned and draconian suspensions. Neville got a yellow for a nothing tackle (and that was the high point of his game).

Anto Byrne
045 Posted 17/02/2013 at 06:14:37
I suppose, now the dust has settled, we can point to the fact we are still in the cup and well in a position in the league where we can at least try to push on. With Vic injured, any chance Vellios might get a run up front with Jelavic?

Maybe Pienaar will be rested for a few games with injury and we can have a look at Oviedo? Osman off, Barkley on... (in your dreams) How long before Coleman to return? Failing that, throw in Stones he can't be any worse than Pip.

Phil Walling
050 Posted 17/02/2013 at 07:37:03
How can he pick Vellios? He's not in The Moyes 13.Mind you,other clubs choose from 25!
Dick Fearon
055 Posted 17/02/2013 at 07:56:10
I am not excusing our pathetic final 15 minutes yet I agree with Ken when he wonders why our messiah could not see the danger of trying to defend deep in our own penalty area or was it part of his 10 year long learning curve?
After watching several replays of Oldhams equaliser it seems the ball came off their keepers raised arm and then onto Smiths head.
Howard was blatantly obstructed though I thought he could have done better.
Where was Duffy?
If a change was needed at that stage why on earth did it have to be Jelavic and not Osman to be dragged.
Ryan Holroyd
057 Posted 17/02/2013 at 08:36:29
Was Moyes on the pitch, Dick? We've enough experienced players to not drop deep but I guess it's human nature to do this.
Trevor Lynes
072 Posted 17/02/2013 at 09:43:25
Derek #037.

I do agree that on balance Oldham deserved their draw and I did qualify my complaint with saying that.
However, Dowd was definitely swayed by the fightback and crowd fervour and would never have allowed that goal against say..Man Utd as Fergie would have been livid !!

The goalkeeper was a lunatic and should have been at least booked.
I don't blame Howard at all, he was mugged and had no chance.

I just wish we could have created more chances as we were powder puff up front.
Ozzie and Pienaar were OK first half but wilted in the second half towards the end.
Our defence had no outlet from midfield and Neville seemed to be ageing minute by minute.

BUT..the equalizer should not have stood....end of !

Christopher Timmins
077 Posted 17/02/2013 at 10:08:40
Ken, you summed it up quite well as always. Very worrying when our best players are the two central defenders and goalkeeper. Great to see Hibbo in the away end, he at least has empathy with the fans.

Pip's contract expires at the end of the year, he has given good service, but a coaching role rather than a playing role should be his fate.

Still work to do to enter the sixth round!

Kevin Gillen
085 Posted 17/02/2013 at 10:33:01
A good report always seems to warrant a sensible thread so thanks once again Ken. I watched it on telly. An amazing fightback by them in the last ten minutes as they were out on their feet with twenty to go and they fully deserved their replay. I can't stand the Moyes bashing on this site any more, it is shameful. What's wrong with having faith in your players? Too many Fifa 13 or Championship manager fans for my liking, change this, change that, give youth a chance. What a load of rubbish! Whatever happened to earning the shirt? I thought Pienaar did well but Jelavic is stinking the place out, he should have scored twice. If you don't score then everyone thinks the midfield aren't doing their job. Also Moyes and his contract, clearly he is making a point about the transfer window and is asking himself quite rightly if he can take this club any further under the current restrictions. It's typical of the man's unflinching honesty, where's the problem with that?
Dennis Stevens
108 Posted 17/02/2013 at 12:01:43
Derek, Worcester is a City hence the football club is Worcester City. I've spent many a happy hour at St Georges Lane as a young lad, although their famous elimination of RS from the Cup was before my time.
Harold Matthews
149 Posted 17/02/2013 at 15:28:34
The Jelavic over the bar effort was certainly no "sitter",as many are implying. I prefer to give this hard working, enthusiastic player my full support. He set up our 1st goal, tackled hard to win the ball on several occasions and is gradually becoming equally confident with both feet. Goals will come but the service to our strikers is pretty dire.

The depleted squad is a concern. If Barkley fails to fulfil his potential and midfielders get injured or suspended we will be in a right old mess. None can be rested and with so many massive fixtures on the horizon our 1st team may look very strange before the season is over.

Spencer Ramsay
277 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:08:26
Im not convinced there was anything wrong from the corner they scored with although it was a bit of a scrum of players. It was the corner immediately before that when their keeper clearly follows through and fouls Howard that I have a problem with! We should have had a free kick for that and that would have been the game won. Plus their first was offside, marginal, but offside all the same if you see it from the right angle in the replay.

Still a draw was probably fair when you consider chances, but if you consider possession football and control for most of the game we were the better team.

Lets just hope the proper Everton turns up at Goodison a week on Wednesday....

COYB...

Frank McGregor
367 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:41:07
For the past three weeks, I have posted about the left side of the defence and yet again we have been caught out on that side. Out of the last seven goals we have concerted, SIX have come from that side of the defence.

Ken, a good report on the game sorry for not mentioning it first.

Bob Parrington
401 Posted 18/02/2013 at 00:56:43
Excellent report Ken. And some great responses in the posts to date.

How many of us could see their equaliser coming? It was crazy play by our guys particularly as we are always susceptible to crosses. Another note is that Howard gets rattled and he was sure showing this with the treatment he was receiving. We've seen it before and invariably it results in goal conceded. Mind you, as several people have commented already, it was a clear foul by their GK in both the corner prior to and the corner with which they scored their equaliser.

Regardless, our players and coach should have resisted the temptation to allow them to come at us. Rather than put Duffy on and take Jela off, surely we should have put a target man up front to hit out to and hold the play up??? As it was, there was nobody to receive a bleedin' clearance.

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