The Sunderland game sucked massive balls. It seems I mercifully only saw the highlights (for want of a better word) on MotD and it was even harder to watch than Alan Shearer trying to construct sentences. The Di Canio effect may be a few games of euphoria, then a year or so of mediocrity... then the sack — but at least it’s not mundane and dull.
I wrote couple of articles a few years ago about how a team play to a manager’s ethos — especially in the critical moments and, regardless of some moments of individual excellence or indeed individual errors, like Baines's howler the other day, the way the team play overall is the Moyes way. It’s as we all know primarily defensive and a wee bit old school: effective-ish but not inspiring.
I wasn’t surprised really by the Sunderland game; we all knew Barkley wouldn’t play consecutive games, we knew Di Canio would have Sunderland champing at the bit and fired up. I figured we would get a draw and we didn’t.
The thing that pissed me off more was the Arsenal game. We played okay initially, some joined-up football with the ball being given away more by guys trying to play than by guys hoofing it up the park. I’d rather Barkley tried to beat a man or do something proactive and lose the ball than lose it by having no belief in his ability and doing a Neville backspin floaty pass to nobody. However, as the game wore on and it got into the last 20 minutes or so, we became Stoke. In the crunch moments, we played Moyes's default style: hoof and hope — and that does my head in.
I didn’t support any football team really before this, I just supported Scotland and I guess followed Scottish players down south. When McFadden signed for Everton, I listened to his debut and Googled and found this website and have been following Everton since.
I’ve never been to Goodison Park, I don’t have my coaching badges, I’ve never played beyond Sunday League level, so I’m entirely unqualified to make a call on who should manage us. However, as someone who has come to care about the fortunes of Everton FC and who wants to see us play a brand of football befitting the club's history and that entertains, I would prefer to see a manager whose ethos was 'pass and move'. So, when we are under the cosh or chasing a goal, that’s how we play.
One can’t help wonder how our forwards would get on being coached by Di Canio or indeed a young McFadden. I know it’s the done thing to slate McFadden who was a behind-the-striker type player but Moyes used him as a wide player in our confidence-draining "run around after long balls" tedium.
Anyways, Moyes isn’t very adaptive: he’s not a young manager, we play how we play, and we always will under him. Will he get us a cup success, into the Champions League or relegated? Probably not. Would another manager get us a cup success, into the Champions League or relegated? Probably not. However, maybe another manager will breathe some enthusiasm into things, give flair a chance, give youth a chance, penalise poor form, be bolder making changes during games, be driven to win more than to avoid defeat and provide more entertainment.
I’m not Tony Marsh evidently... but maybe I would be if I’d been going to Goodison for years and seen the 80s and spent thousands and thousands on Everton. Or maybe I’d be Richard Dodd... Um, nope: I’m just not capable of being that upbeat about anything.
I’m aware this lacks structure and I’m rambling a bit but in closing I’d say I was a little jealous of Sunderland the other day: young manager leaping around, clearly giving a shit about what happened on the park, and clearly not earning £4 million a year while he leaves the club hanging on the "Will he? Won't he?" contract issue… It’s like we are all dating Moyes and he will tell us after his summer holidays if he still wants to bone us, but it depends if he manages to pull a DJ in Ibiza. We are getting shafted and some here seem to think that’s okay.
I got a pay rise the other week, in line with my achievements; Moyes is looking for one in excess of his. Lot of talk about how we aren’t a Champions League calibre team (and that’s spot-on), stadium, squad quality, wage bill, transfer spending — the list goes on. The only thing that’s of a Champions League team level is the salary we pay our manager — and that’s just bonkers.
[I’d like to apologise if I made anyone imagine themselves in a sex act with our manager earlier — that was not my intention... Though I’m sure it would be quite direct with a lot of pointing and shouting.]
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669 Posted 21/04/2013 at 17:47:38
Di Canio young - 44.
I don't know if players being up for every match chomping at the bit and coming 10th in the league happens. There's reasons for finishing lower, and that is the play, the mistakes, the quality will be evidently worse.
Are people really going to be happier with 10-15 points less a season so long as the manager gives a decent interview, jumps about a bit, and players look 'up for it'?
Obviously there's no reason another manager can't do what Moyes has done, but then there's no reason that another manager can't do what Alex Ferguson has done either. When both managers go it will be fingers crossed time.
We don't fail to hit top 4 because of Moyes, he's the one who has us challenging. But its a glass ceiling. I do though think bar some miracle he is now gone.
Di Canio is a flavour of the month type, proved nothing but a good interviewee, and Malky Mackay surely can't be who Kenwright is after.
Ryjkaard. Won La Liga and the Champions League with Barcelona. He'll come for less than what Moyes is on.
677 Posted 21/04/2013 at 18:05:23
It would show the club to be ambitious and put BK in a good light.
698 Posted 21/04/2013 at 18:35:31
youth I was meaning more experience than actual age..Moyes is only 49???..yikes
804 Posted 21/04/2013 at 20:36:05
933 Posted 22/04/2013 at 08:04:12
The true test of De Canio and Sunderland will be when ( and how ) they lose their first game, how they go in the next and subsequent games until the end of the season.
And at the start of next season I hope our new guy, however he is, gets Sunderland away and shows how it Should be done
987 Posted 22/04/2013 at 12:22:18
We played 3 tough games in a week. It doesn't matter how much you pay players, they're still human and still tire. Baines rarely makes those mistakes and I think it came from a lack of mental sharpness because he's knackered from hardly missing a game all season. Osman has looked dead on his feet since Xmas.
The issue is Moyes' failure to blood the younger players and give other fringe players a chance through the season (I'm not talking about Naismith). I don't think our small squad is all down to Kenwright. I think Moyes likes having a small squad. It's easier to manage and keep things consistent but why did he drop Berkley? Why won't he play Duffy? Why won't he play Oviedo? Where the hell is Velios? Maybe Sunderland away wasn't the best time to do it but maybe if these players had had more game time through the season, our players wouldn't be so fucked now.
989 Posted 22/04/2013 at 12:26:15
The new guy will have less players to work with and I don't know why some poster believe that we will offer the new fella the same wages as a manager that has been here for 11 years....baffling
172 Posted 23/04/2013 at 11:49:01
The TV commentators at the Sunderland game made the correct call when they both agreed that the big fella was the only Everton player that looked anything like a midfielder.
I see the derby as being a judgement on Moyes motivational ability. Heaven help us!
254 Posted 23/04/2013 at 18:31:20
355 Posted 24/04/2013 at 07:24:27
So apart from our ability to avoid relegation what is the reason for claims that Moyes isn't living up to our history. It's kind of like saying that he didn't live up to Preston's history because he didn't win the double. Since the war we have had a few brief spells of success, but an awful lot more mediocrity.
If you ask me David Moyes tenure fits in with our history perfectly
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