In the wake of the breaking news of Rodwell about to join Man City, many blues are left scratching their heads as to a promising but ultimately failed career for us. On the face of it, Rodwell has all the attributes to be great. He is two footed, possesses a great strike, has pace and is good in the air.
This ticks all the boxes an English coach looks for; however, I believe his high rating is indicative of why English football continues to fail. More stock is put into physical attributes than technical ability or mental strength. It’s still early in his career so some will call this premature but I don’t believe Rodwell will be a great payer. I just can’t see him stepping up and having the belief or technical skills to dominate a game at the highest level. His physical attributes will only get him so far.
They are different types of players so I am not directly comparing them to Rodwell but if Pienaar, Modric or Silver had grown up in England they wouldn’t have ticked all these boxes and may have been overlooked as a result. However, through their pure talent, application and delivery, they are light years ahead of all current English players.
So what am I getting at? I believe Man City are playing into our hands. If Moyes is given the funds (big 'if' – I know), he can bring in a couple of players for areas of the pitch less well-covered. The depth and quality can be improved in the next two weeks and we could build some serious momentum.
As far as Rodwell is concerned, unfortunately he will not play much this season. I can only see his career going backward now and that is a shame. I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds himself on loan next season. I hope he proves me wrong but I don’t think I am – as much as I don’t want Man City to benefit – because he seems like a lovely lad and a proper blue.
Pablo Connelly, Posted 12/08/2012 at 13:27:12
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976 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:10:34
978 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:06:55
He won't be given the funds, we all know that. This is another example of the continuation of the failed business plan to mobilise assets to keep the creditors from the door for another season. It stinks that a club like Everton, at the business end of the richest league in the world, still has to sell its crown jewels on a yearly basis.
Nothing has changed, the sooner Kenwright goes, the better.
988 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:13:46
If I had to commit myself, I get the feeling he would be a good player to in a club that like passing it around to wait for an opening with more patience than we seem to have at times. Good England squad player, but not first choice.
He certainly would do better at a club where he would play every week to build up his confidence & fitness - somewhere like Swansea for style perhaps?
I hate these 'undisclosed' fees, just worried that we have accepted 3.50 now with the rest on appearances.
I do think that David Moyes would have been unable to get the best from him - whatever his fitness - as he hasn't for me shown the ability to successfully integrate young players into the team. (Rooney was a special case and there have been precious few others for a ten-year tenure).
Sad to see him go, but regardless of his wages, it may be better for him.
994 Posted 12/08/2012 at 15:21:29
I'm sad to see him go but this is a no brainer for me. There are better players out there for 4-5 million. We'll probably bring a couple in and give the rest to the banks
022 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:09:35
Mancini is no mug, he was a technically gifted player and is an exceptionally gifted manager, whatever price they've paid they will think/hope it turns out to be a bargain, the problem they will have is trying to keep the player happy, because I just can't see how he's going to get regular first team football at City.
Poor coaching? Don't think so mate 15/20M for a 21 year old? I would say that is a massive success for our coaching set up.
025 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:18:21
I'll take their opinions over most.
030 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:24:43
031 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:21:23
037 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:34:30
050 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:50:17
In the end, I just wish Jack luck with his injuries and realize if he does reach his potential we will look back on this with lots and lots of bitter feelings.
054 Posted 12/08/2012 at 16:57:43
He's the Lone Ranger's horse.
095 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:44:18
Who's versus Whose???
Anyway wish Jack luck. At least it wasn't ten to midnight on transfer deadline day.
103 Posted 12/08/2012 at 17:47:58
We were very lucky to get Jelavic and Naismith in the way that we did but clubs are asking a minimum of 10 million now for anyone with an ounce of ability.
Rodwell at his best was as good as anyone. It is just unfortunate that he got injured and we werent playing too well when he came back in.
137 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:36:18
Don't think it was the coaching.
140 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:34:34
142 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:35:56
The start of his injuries happened playing for poxy England Under-21s. At the time, Rodwell was flying, remember his goal at Goodison v the Mancs? A proper football brain will get the best out of him and also not being asked to play a different defensive role every other week by a Numbskull manager might help.
Moyes does make some great bargain basement signings who flourish here but Rodwell is the only player he has brought through the ranks in ten years at the club. The potential Jack Rodwell may have will now be harnessed by Mancini and we will more than likely see the real JR.
Having said that, we need money for the bank so what can we do? Good luck to the lad... and who wouldn't want to treble there wages at his age?
146 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:48:04
147 Posted 12/08/2012 at 18:48:04
194 Posted 12/08/2012 at 20:05:36
195 Posted 12/08/2012 at 20:04:47
Fergie will most likely be laughing his head off right now that his neighbours have shelled out such a massive amount for a player that is injured most of the time. It's about time that we had a proper clear-out / housekeeping exercise with our squad — well done Mr Moyes, let's get a couple more decent signings and keep hold of Bainsey!
206 Posted 12/08/2012 at 20:19:30
'Housekeeping'? 'Desperation' — not really the same thing...
Anyway. clear out Heitinga, give the bank a bit more, and keep Kenwright hanging in there. After all, Mr Moyes has Hibbert to cover at centre half. I really despair.
208 Posted 12/08/2012 at 20:25:36
How many top footballers would you say that about? If he were a nasty little shithouse á la Stevie Me, he could be a world beater.
227 Posted 12/08/2012 at 20:58:15
229 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:04:48
233 Posted 12/08/2012 at 21:10:40
Not sure what "hit their stride" means... but Gerrard & Lampard were regular first team players well before 23.
261 Posted 12/08/2012 at 22:39:09
282 Posted 12/08/2012 at 23:44:51
£12-15M is great business for us for a squad player.
301 Posted 13/08/2012 at 00:40:16
302 Posted 13/08/2012 at 00:57:12
Spot on... Roswell... Rodwell... Well Rid.
334 Posted 13/08/2012 at 07:38:26
Two things can happen when a player finds himself surrounded by a higher calibre of player. Either it will lead to positive development or his shortcomings will be shown up. In Jack's case I think the latter is more likely. For me, this is because he lacks the vision and creativity a midfielder needs and his other asset, being a big strong lad, has taken a bit of a knock with his susceptibility to injury. I don't think we'll hear that much about Jack from now on I'm sorry to say.
If we had sold Baines, Fellaini or even Johhny I would have been annoyed. But I feel very 'neutral' about Rodwell going. Doesn't mean much to me at all.
If the fee is £12m as speculated and IF Moyes gets the cash, we gan get that bit of pace down the right that we need before the season starts. Here's hoping.
351 Posted 13/08/2012 at 09:37:18
Every game of his I've watched for the last couple of years, he has spent most of his time jogging around in circles in front of the back four, looking busy but doing nothing at all to break up play. He's not as quick as some seem to think, doubly so because he doesn't seem to anticipate play at all - as a result, the game invariably passes him by, especially against better teams.
All of these skills can be developed - I think Fellaini's reading of a game has improved dramatically over the last couple of years - and Rodwell does have a pretty good foundation to build on. He was never going to develop with Everton, with Fellaini and Gibson in his way, so it'll be interesting to see how he does and I wish him the best at City. Hopefully, a textbook example of a good deal for both club and player.
366 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:18:23
367 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:18:40
372 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:21:01
As long, that is, that Moyes gets some of the money to spend.
375 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:29:52
Villa in the cup a couple of seasons back is one I can think of but most times he struggled to break a 6/10 for me.
377 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:30:18
388 Posted 13/08/2012 at 10:19:56
In terms of Rodwell, I can think of games when I thought we had a real prospect on our hands like the commanding performance he put in alongside Arteta in the FA cup 4th round tie against Villa (2009). But others where he looked lost like when an ageing Danny Murphy gave him the runaround at Goodison (2011).
Theres no doubt his development has stalled the last 18 months or so (partly due to injuries), but that does not excuse his tendacy to take the easy option going sideways or backwards and to little benefit of the team. He appears to be unable to create or see a shorter angled pass or have the belief to drive forward utilising is undoubted physical attributes. Whether thats down to instructions is open to debate.
However, rightly or wrongly we knew one of our marque players would be scarificed this summer to keep Philip Green I mean Barclays happy. Therefore providing this is the only deal needed to shore us up finacially for another season, it is with regret that we bid Jack a fond farewell and wish him all the best for the future.
411 Posted 13/08/2012 at 12:28:56
425 Posted 13/08/2012 at 13:27:24
Yes he has talent, but then so did Franny Jeffers and Danny Cadamateri, and we all know what happened to them.
This is really good business for a club like ours without a pot to piss in. We can hopefully now go out and buy a couple of players for our paper-thin squad (or not depending on how much the banks demand back at this stage) that will be able to play a lot more games in a season than a player who has been little more than a luxury to us.
To paraphrase a well known newspaper, we've sold a Rolls Royce who spent most of his time in the garage.
The guy may well make it, and become a big star ala Rooney but it's basic economics. When you have no money, and a club comes calling for a player with talent, but lacking fitness, you sell. Have we really missed Rooney/Jeffers/Cadamateri? Personally I don't think so and I wish him all the best. He never really did anything for us anyway so I really don't think we'll miss him.
468 Posted 13/08/2012 at 15:23:24
485 Posted 13/08/2012 at 16:11:06
Son to me - that's good
797 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:42:36
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