Whose Silver?

"If Moyes is given the funds."

He won't be given the funds, we all know that. This is another example of the continuation of the failed business plan to mobilise assets to keep the creditors from the door for another season. It stinks that a club like Everton, at the business end of the richest league in the world, still has to sell its crown jewels on a yearly basis.

Nothing has changed, the sooner Kenwright goes, the better.

Not sure Pablo, but can't help that think if he wasn't injured so often we may have found out just how good he could be.

If I had to commit myself, I get the feeling he would be a good player to in a club that like passing it around to wait for an opening with more patience than we seem to have at times. Good England squad player, but not first choice.

He certainly would do better at a club where he would play every week to build up his confidence & fitness - somewhere like Swansea for style perhaps?

I hate these 'undisclosed' fees, just worried that we have accepted 3.50 now with the rest on appearances.

I do think that David Moyes would have been unable to get the best from him - whatever his fitness - as he hasn't for me shown the ability to successfully integrate young players into the team. (Rooney was a special case and there have been precious few others for a ten-year tenure).

Sad to see him go, but regardless of his wages, it may be better for him.

Moyes will be given some funds from this. Yes, the banks want their money back but they are also acutely aware that their best chance of this happening is for Everton to be as successful as possible and drafting in new players is a big part of that. Banks understand the football business model is very different that of other businesses.

I'm sad to see him go but this is a no brainer for me. There are better players out there for 4-5 million. We'll probably bring a couple in and give the rest to the banks

Pablo,
Mancini is no mug, he was a technically gifted player and is an exceptionally gifted manager, whatever price they've paid they will think/hope it turns out to be a bargain, the problem they will have is trying to keep the player happy, because I just can't see how he's going to get regular first team football at City.

Poor coaching? Don't think so mate 15/20M for a 21 year old? I would say that is a massive success for our coaching set up.

Poor coaching? Fabio Capello and Roberto Mancini don't seem to think so.

I'll take their opinions over most.

More a product of over-hyping English talent.

Not suited to our defensive dour dull boring negative football; plays well for England and has shown in glimpses of what he has. Fuck me dead.

Jordan Henderson in a blue shirt

I have no idea how I feel about this, can't think that we could have held out for more... even 17 million, 2 mil is nothing to city and a new player to us!
In the end, I just wish Jack luck with his injuries and realize if he does reach his potential we will look back on this with lots and lots of bitter feelings.

@ Tom Campbell

He's the Lone Ranger's horse.

Tom 976,

Who's versus Whose???

Anyway wish Jack luck. At least it wasn't ten to midnight on transfer deadline day.

Gary who are these better players for 4 to 5 mill?

We were very lucky to get Jelavic and Naismith in the way that we did but clubs are asking a minimum of 10 million now for anyone with an ounce of ability.

Rodwell at his best was as good as anyone. It is just unfortunate that he got injured and we werent playing too well when he came back in.

I think its more the team's tactics rather than the coaching. Also the injuries didn't help.

Don't think it was the coaching.

I've just seen that Everton are in for Dempsey, Agents already had talks?

Jack is a very talented player who had bad luck with injuries and poor coaching during his time with us.

The start of his injuries happened playing for poxy England Under-21s. At the time, Rodwell was flying, remember his goal at Goodison v the Mancs? A proper football brain will get the best out of him and also not being asked to play a different defensive role every other week by a Numbskull manager might help.

Moyes does make some great bargain basement signings who flourish here but Rodwell is the only player he has brought through the ranks in ten years at the club. The potential Jack Rodwell may have will now be harnessed by Mancini and we will more than likely see the real JR.

Having said that, we need money for the bank so what can we do? Good luck to the lad... and who wouldn't want to treble there wages at his age?

Where does it say that Robert? Good deal if it happens

Where does it say that Robert? Good deal if it happens

I get the feeling of panic buy about Rodwell, what with Mancini moaning all summer about Marwood's success in the market so far. Do they need strenghtening particularly in midfield, or are they going young and British?

This is a fantastic piece of business by Moyesie and I'm not surprised to see Rodwell go to be honest. Apart from that goal against Utd a couple of seasons ago, Rodders has done very little of great consequence on the pitch at Goodison. I do of course wish him the very best for his future as a bench warmer at Ethiad, but think that City have massively overpaid.

Fergie will most likely be laughing his head off right now that his neighbours have shelled out such a massive amount for a player that is injured most of the time. It's about time that we had a proper clear-out / housekeeping exercise with our squad — well done Mr Moyes, let's get a couple more decent signings and keep hold of Bainsey!

Andy Corrie, our squad is threadbare. Well done indeed, Mr Moyes!! With Gibson injured, Phil Neville can quite easily slot in there; who needs a young international???
'Housekeeping'? 'Desperation' — not really the same thing...

Anyway. clear out Heitinga, give the bank a bit more, and keep Kenwright hanging in there. After all, Mr Moyes has Hibbert to cover at centre half. I really despair.

You summed up his downfall in your last sentance... "He seems a lovely lad".

How many top footballers would you say that about? If he were a nasty little shithouse á la Stevie Me, he could be a world beater.

Right with you Andy Crooks. Another great failure of Everton FC and their impotent board.

Failure? He is 21 for God's sake and a box-to-box midfielder. Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack and others in similar positions only hit their stride aged 22 or 23. If he'd stayed he would've been an absolute star. As it is, I'm 100% sure he'll be an absolute star for City and England. Heartbreaking we didn't get chance to see him mature, he has something very, very special.

Paul #227

Not sure what "hit their stride" means... but Gerrard & Lampard were regular first team players well before 23.

I think we would have been waiting for a long time for Jack to consistantly come good. He doesn't seem to suit the way we play which is strange with us having so many playing midfield but we are still unable to keep the ball then find the man with a killer pass. I think we need to improve the quality of our coaching especially in the production of footballers that are comfortable with controlling, keeping and passing the ball.

Rodwell was a decent guy with great attributes but was vastly overrated.

£12-15M is great business for us for a squad player.

The most overrated player I have seen in over 20 years of going to Goodison. I'm glad he has left so I don't have to listen to people going on about how good he is then having to watch him pass the ball sideways for 90 mins. A nice lad and decent squad player but top class...........never! Panic buy or bought to fulfil the new requirements about having home grown players. Good luck to Jack but I won't miss him. And neither will the team.

Kase (#282)

Spot on... Roswell... Rodwell... Well Rid.

He looked exciting as a young kid (don't most of 'em at 16?) especially scoring that goal against Manure in a side that was playing quite well at the time. Perhaps his constant injuries have had something to do with it but he hasn't progressed for me. When he has started games he has had little or no impact and when coming on as a sub he never made any difference. His crab-like passing even started to annoy me and despite scoring a few decent goals he never really offered a consistent threat in that department.

Two things can happen when a player finds himself surrounded by a higher calibre of player. Either it will lead to positive development or his shortcomings will be shown up. In Jack's case I think the latter is more likely. For me, this is because he lacks the vision and creativity a midfielder needs and his other asset, being a big strong lad, has taken a bit of a knock with his susceptibility to injury. I don't think we'll hear that much about Jack from now on I'm sorry to say.

If we had sold Baines, Fellaini or even Johhny I would have been annoyed. But I feel very 'neutral' about Rodwell going. Doesn't mean much to me at all.

If the fee is £12m as speculated and IF Moyes gets the cash, we gan get that bit of pace down the right that we need before the season starts. Here's hoping.

I'm inclined to agree Pablo. I've never seen why Rodwell is so highly rated by many, I've always been pretty disappointed by him. He has some good physical attributes, and moderate skills, but he doesn't apprear to be able to read a game at all, and seems to have little confidence to get forward or to get into tackles.

Every game of his I've watched for the last couple of years, he has spent most of his time jogging around in circles in front of the back four, looking busy but doing nothing at all to break up play. He's not as quick as some seem to think, doubly so because he doesn't seem to anticipate play at all - as a result, the game invariably passes him by, especially against better teams.

All of these skills can be developed - I think Fellaini's reading of a game has improved dramatically over the last couple of years - and Rodwell does have a pretty good foundation to build on. He was never going to develop with Everton, with Fellaini and Gibson in his way, so it'll be interesting to see how he does and I wish him the best at City. Hopefully, a textbook example of a good deal for both club and player.

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When he Rodwell last turn in a first-class performance in an Everton jersey? Answers welcome because I honestly can't recall. Another stitch up on Man C - not quite on the scale of the Lescott Job but getting there.

As long, that is, that Moyes gets some of the money to spend.

steve, been thinking the same to myself all morning, mancini bought him on the back of a man to man marking job on Silva last season.
Villa in the cup a couple of seasons back is one I can think of but most times he struggled to break a 6/10 for me.

Moyes tried to make Rodwell into a box to box midfielder,in which he failed, the lad just looked lost. Rodwell is a player who sits in front of the defence or even play center half.

Not sure how I feel about this one. But if we needed to do the deal in order to ensure we can give for example, Baines parity with our top earners then I will except it as I regard Baines as indispensible.

In terms of Rodwell, I can think of games when I thought we had a real prospect on our hands like the commanding performance he put in alongside Arteta in the FA cup 4th round tie against Villa (2009). But others where he looked lost like when an ageing Danny Murphy gave him the runaround at Goodison (2011).

Theres no doubt his development has stalled the last 18 months or so (partly due to injuries), but that does not excuse his tendacy to take the easy option going sideways or backwards and to little benefit of the team. He appears to be unable to create or see a shorter angled pass or have the belief to drive forward utilising is undoubted physical attributes. Whether thats down to instructions is open to debate.

However, rightly or wrongly we knew one of our marque players would be scarificed this summer to keep Philip Green I mean Barclays happy. Therefore providing this is the only deal needed to shore us up finacially for another season, it is with regret that we bid Jack a fond farewell and wish him all the best for the future.

"Mancini bought him on the back of a man to man marking job on Silva last season." – That was my first reaction when I heard the news.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rodwell only played about 190 minutes of football last season, and in total only made 17 starts for his entire Everton career.

Yes he has talent, but then so did Franny Jeffers and Danny Cadamateri, and we all know what happened to them.

This is really good business for a club like ours without a pot to piss in. We can hopefully now go out and buy a couple of players for our paper-thin squad (or not depending on how much the banks demand back at this stage) that will be able to play a lot more games in a season than a player who has been little more than a luxury to us.

To paraphrase a well known newspaper, we've sold a Rolls Royce who spent most of his time in the garage.

The guy may well make it, and become a big star ala Rooney but it's basic economics. When you have no money, and a club comes calling for a player with talent, but lacking fitness, you sell. Have we really missed Rooney/Jeffers/Cadamateri? Personally I don't think so and I wish him all the best. He never really did anything for us anyway so I really don't think we'll miss him.

At ten to midnight on Deadline Day, Honest Bill "working 24/7" will sell Baines to Man Utd, Fellaini to Chelsea and Jelavic to anyone who'll cough up £10 million and announce it's great business for Everton, trust me. The sad thing is many do.

Me to 8 year old son - hey son we sold Rodwell to city.
Son to me - that's good
nuff said...

Injuries. Going away on international duty and over playing him against Spain and Sweden caused the an injury problem. Capello should have left him alone until Rodwell had completed a full season at Everton.