Before the Arsenal game, quite a lot of the talk, in the pub I was in was about the treatment Richard Knights was receiving from Everton.
This came about because of the articles on the KEIOC website, the first highlighting his treatment and the latest, I’m assuming, due to PR head Paul Tyrrell’s cosy chat on twitter with the new chairman of the Shareholders Association when he told everybody watching that nobody had been banned this season from Goodison Park — in other words, he was saying that KEIOC were lying.
What followed then was that KEIOC reproduced the content of a letter Tyrrell had sent Knights and it clearly says he is banned from Goodison Park.
My question is why do we continually employ people who simply can’t tell the truth and bring about adverse publicity? Look what Ross used to do, his handling of the Kings Dock, Destination Kirkby and the Park End fiasco... particularly the Park End was amateurish, but this appears vindictive and comes across as bullying. I've heard Tyrrell has picked fights with fans before at Man City and Liverpool; he might be out of his depth this time.
I understand the police are involved and looking at another series of tweets between KEIOC and a disgusted Keith Wyness of all people, who now appears very pally with them; the media are also taking interest.
Has Everton been fair in their treatment of Richard Knights or have they been underhand and wrong in the way they’ve handled this? Where there’s one lie, there’s usually more and telling the chairman of the Shareholders Association that they’ve banned nobody when clearly they have is typical of Everton shooting themselves in the foot – imho.
Paul Jamieson, Posted 29/11/2012 at 15:24:23
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909 Posted 29/11/2012 at 18:26:54
Whilst we have only heard one side ot the story via the KEIOC website, it is difficult to assess whether EFC's punishment is justified or not, however, to deny that anyone has been banned – while Mr Knights obviously has – is little short of incredulous.
913 Posted 29/11/2012 at 19:32:27
975 Posted 30/11/2012 at 06:28:25
From a peaceful, primary school teacher? Thin end of the wedge here if we're not careful.
997 Posted 30/11/2012 at 10:51:56
014 Posted 30/11/2012 at 12:55:35
If you want to know more just click on the link in the main body of the article.
Whilst he may not be well known, he is however an Evertonian, it may not seem as important as what happens on the football pitch it does reflect an aspect of the clubs administrators, sadly not a very good one. Remember any Season Ticket holder who breaks(?) the contract between the Club and the ST holder can be treated in a similar fashion.
022 Posted 30/11/2012 at 14:31:11
Remember the Red Shite's communications guy Jen Chang persecuting one of theirs over a joke twitter account? Oh how we enjoyed that. Now we have this twát Tyrell seemingly doing the same – Ask Jen Chang how that panned out for him. Mr Tyrell.
Do not stand for this tyrannical shít, my fellow blues. Twitter it, email the Club, whatever, but don't just sit back and watch one of ours being bullied and threatened by these corporate shitbags and their police state henchmen.
Not that I'm angry or anything. It pushes my big red fucking Justice button – that's all.
024 Posted 30/11/2012 at 15:12:15
Disgraceful that the club feel the need to respond to a freely expressed opinion in this manner...
028 Posted 30/11/2012 at 15:51:58
Protesting against a free school? Come off it.
What next? Getting banned for calling for an EGM because Kenwright & Co stopped having AGMs? Protesting at the lack of a finance strategy?
I had the same thought as Peter above at 022: The RS Comms Director got involved in something sticky like this and he is now out. There is still time for Paul Tyrell to backtrack before this case gets out of hand for him, too.
Also looking at the club rules & regulations I am unclear on what basis this bloke was banned in for first place.......
030 Posted 30/11/2012 at 16:20:00
031 Posted 30/11/2012 at 16:29:54
There's most definitely a story here, and one worthy of comment
037 Posted 30/11/2012 at 18:20:06
043 Posted 30/11/2012 at 18:58:39
Thank you Ged, I was wondering whether I was alone as it was written as though we should all know....some contaxt from the writer woulda been useful.
044 Posted 30/11/2012 at 19:07:30
047 Posted 30/11/2012 at 19:15:46
What is the problem with the Free School? (from a position of relative ignorance)
048 Posted 30/11/2012 at 19:19:10
You want to wait while Everton get their story straight whilst others more familiar with their work – the stadium is falling down, we’re getting £52m off Tesco, the money is ring fenced, we’re delaying the park end development due to problems relocating offices and computer systems during the season, we’re not entering into any further borrowing, Ian Ross is moving to a new position under a long standing agreement nothing to do with the recent leaks of emails, Ian’s not getting the sack, this was just before he disappeared off the face of the earth – know exactly what they’ll be doing. According to keioc Paul Tyrrell has clearly attempted to mislead the shareholders chairman and everybody reading twitter which I guess will be tens of thousands of people. Here’s what he said –
Paul Tyrrell @TyrrellPaul
@John_B58 @razor_efc1 manner. The ultimate sanction is a banning order, revoking a season ticket and refunding the cost is another, as is
Paul Tyrrell @TyrrellPaul
@John_B58 @razor_efc1 revoking a season ticket with no refund. As I say, nobody has received a banning order this season. Any action we
Paul Tyrrell @TyrrellPaul
@John_B58 @razor_efc1 take is thought through and made with the priority I mentioned earlier.
Keioc have released the letter sent by Tyrrell to Knights and it clearly says that he isn’t going to be allowed to have access to Goodison Park. Any truth telling competition between keioc and the club would be deemed a no contest, with most of the stuff I’ve just mentioned over Kirkby and the park end it was keioc who broke the truth to the fans whilst the club lied, some fans still can’t believe what keioc say, some fans clap Bill and believe he’s the club’s saviour, some people believe in leprechauns.
Beforehand with the lies that they told nobody was actually being hurt, moving to Kirkby was a pain and would have probably left the club like Coventry or Southampton, telling you the stand was going to fall down, that everyone involved in the park end development was deliriously happy over the slight postponement didn't hurt a soul, but setting solicitors and the police on you does hurt you, particularly if it means your livelihood is potentially threatened, it puts pressure on your health and on your relationships, I’ve seen it all before many times.
Sometimes Chez you need to stand up and be counted. If this was Liverpool their fans would be going mad at the treatment of one of their own, ours do what they always do, they leave it to others, they wait until they can have two sides of the story, but sometimes you just have to go with those with the track record of telling the truth and not listen to the ones who have told lies time and time and time again.
051 Posted 30/11/2012 at 19:22:31
What are we supposed to be standing up for?
054 Posted 30/11/2012 at 19:49:16
057 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:00:24
061 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:08:37
Attending two public consultations over the Everton Free School.
One visit to the stadium (30 seconds).
One phone call (30 seconds).
One visit to the Free School, spoke to the secretary (30 seconds.)
Visit by the police for 'harassing' the Principal of the Everton Free School – I met him once for 10 seconds.
Solicitors' letter threatening a court injunction with massive court costs.
Season ticket taken away the day before the derby game.
062 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:14:17
Don't understand why this info isn't allowed to be published by KEIOC?
067 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:31:11
068 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:38:26
069 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:49:45
One allegation was getting thrown out of the Everton megastore on June 27th 2012, threatening staff, abusive...
Er, haven't been in there for twelve years or more...
Still waiting to get the CCTV footage from the club.
070 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:50:25
073 Posted 30/11/2012 at 21:08:43
074 Posted 30/11/2012 at 21:13:15
076 Posted 30/11/2012 at 21:18:03
077 Posted 30/11/2012 at 21:22:59
078 Posted 30/11/2012 at 20:49:28
I have to say, you are being a grade A nugget.
081 Posted 30/11/2012 at 21:04:27
083 Posted 30/11/2012 at 22:22:29
084 Posted 30/11/2012 at 22:25:29
I'd stake money on the fact that a few people at Everton are shaking their heads at the course of action that's been taken, as are no doubt Everton's usual lawyers who have taken no part in this disgraceful charade whatsoever; you wonder why!!!!
085 Posted 30/11/2012 at 22:12:01
I have noticed that Richard Knights as been commenting on the project, there was a letter to When Skies Are Grey for instance, but it's not a subject I know a lot about and I expect most other fans are the same.
So what I don't understand is why the club don't explain their position rather than attempting to muzzle an individual (which as this thread shows is nigh on impossible anyway in the digital age) and let us reach an opinion.
It all suggests another cover up, hidden motives, something to hide. Yet again.
086 Posted 30/11/2012 at 22:35:30
...."As you are no longer the holder of a season ticket and do not have a customer number, Everton will not communicate with you"......
For those of a certain age the retort from the TV show "The Prisoner" comes screaming off the page.
"I am not a number – I am a free man".
Whatever the rights and wrongs of Mr Knights's case, the enthusiasm of small-minded buffoons to roll out the jackbooted response is disgusting.
I long for the day when these pygmies are shown the door.
091 Posted 30/11/2012 at 23:24:57
It's not unreasonable to ask for more is it?
099 Posted 01/12/2012 at 01:00:58
101 Posted 01/12/2012 at 00:53:49
102 Posted 01/12/2012 at 01:04:56
This lady has more of a handle on what's going on than you:
Unless it is you in which case, errr... here's a piece of bog paper – see Colin Fitz for instructions.
104 Posted 01/12/2012 at 02:06:09
For further information on Everton Resources Inc. please visit www.evertonresources.comMaybe our people could speak to their people and arrange a mutual sponsorship deal. (LOL)
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107 Posted 01/12/2012 at 02:12:13
Seeking to reduce frivolous securities litigation, Congress passed the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (PSLRA), which created, among other things, a statutory safe harbor for certain forward-looking statements made by issuers subject to the reporting requirements of Section 13(a) or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Under the PSLRA, if a forward-looking statement is immaterial or accompanied by meaningful cautionary language identifying important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statement, or if a plaintiff cannot prove that the forward-looking statement was made with actual knowledge that the forward-looking statement was false or misleading, there is no liability for the forward-looking statement in a private action for securities fraud.It's a bit like you predicting the results for Saturday, and adding a disclaimer to make sure no-one comes back and sues you for losing money when they place bets on your predictions and you get it wrong. I think, to get the requisite protection, every US company adds such language when talking about future performance.
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But we're getting way off topic here. This business of revoking Richard's season ticket and making trumped-up charges sounds really poor... but no different fundamentally to the numerous documented cases where departing players have been demonized by the club, with the collusion of the local press. It's the shamelessly brazen conceit that they can not only do this but that they will get away with it that is so galling.
111 Posted 01/12/2012 at 07:43:21
You have been told the story, you have been given the links to read what the club have sent, in letters, and you blatantly wont read them.
115 Posted 01/12/2012 at 08:56:30
'I may disagree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'
The question I kept asking, but never received a reply to - 'What is the salary of the Principal of the Everton Free School?'
This is taxpayers' money.
126 Posted 01/12/2012 at 10:16:03
The motives of KEIOC and/or its senior members seem to be to foster public opnion against this board and increasingly the company, though they claim to have the best interests of the club at heart - or at least their ideas of what is best for the club. Of course these opinions are free from any need to actually do anything really realistic as we are regularly told 'that is the job of the board'. It is easy to destroy!
This latest story comes after a period of time of quiet from KEIOC as the stadium is full every home game, the team is playing relatively well - there is no discontent to feed off so things are looking bleak. Lo! and Behold! we are given a sad story about a mild mannered fan unjustly treated by the board or the company - but it now emerges that he is a 'part time' journalist for the Mirror as well as a protestor so not just a school teacher then? As with many stories from KEIOC this has an element of 'anti-board spin' and consequently I agree with one or two comments wanting to know more about both sides of the story before condemning the club yet again.
Mr Knights - if you feel unjustly done to and the facts are so clear there is a legal redress process which is likely to get faster results than trying to get change of heart out of a private company via 'fan pressure' using a group of people who have managed to get themselves positioned as people the club will not communicate with for fear of being ridiculed in columns such as this.
129 Posted 01/12/2012 at 11:05:19
'Has made money by building the club from the ruins of the 90's'
I'm sure the debt will have been reduced significantly, There will be a little set aside for Moyes to reinvest and we wont need to sell our best players.
130 Posted 01/12/2012 at 11:14:22
131 Posted 01/12/2012 at 10:49:33
Or would you prefer to continue to think that the Emperor has a magnificent suit of clothes?
134 Posted 01/12/2012 at 11:25:07
After all if they had not shafted Richard Knights in this way we would have been forever ignorant of who the guy is and he'd not be a 'cause celebre' but just a forgotten little voice in the wilderness.
140 Posted 01/12/2012 at 12:05:34
For all the others on here who would rather bitch, moan, or talk down just because I wanted further info before jumping on the bandwagon, apologies for not being a Stepford Fan!
141 Posted 01/12/2012 at 13:02:16
1) The use of the Football Intelligence Unit
2) Failure to investigate the Recordable Verbal Warning
3) Failures by the Professional Standards Department
How often have I met Mr Packer (Everton Free School Principal)? Once, for about ten seconds.This is the man I am meant to have 'harassed', even Kafka couldn't write this.
145 Posted 01/12/2012 at 13:33:10
First of all Richard Knights isn't a part time journalist, he was nothing more than an invited member of the Echo’s jury for which anybody can apply and most Echo readers will have enjoyed his pieces as they were well written, accurate and insightful.
Richard’s plight has already been the subject of a series of IPCC complaints which have been upheld and, as explained, his treatment is already in the hands of lawyers; your parting advice, like most of your observations, is therefore redundant.
You are clearly blind to the efforts of KEIOC, a fact that matters little to me as those efforts of have been embraced by the City Council, the Mayor and many organisations such as Liverpool Vision and the city’s Local Enterprise Partnership; the fact that Thomas Lennon does not support them means nothing whatsoever. Indeed, many of the concepts and principles of regeneration and redevelopment, as replacements for undeliverable, ill-conceived, commercial led developments, have been championed by KEIOC and others and can be seen in LFC’s plan to redevelop Anfield. Hardly the actions of an organisation wanting to destroy but clearly, if it suits your agenda, a statement you feel it necessary to make. Everton, or to be precise the current owners of Everton, cannot and will not entertain any such ideas of redevelopment and regeneration; they prefer to examine undeliverable, fantasy developments, or more recently nothing at all, as these require something that every member of this board can own up to, they require not a single penny of investment into the club. They require them to do nothing which is exactly what they've done over the past thirteen years. Of course they’ll tell you that it is impossible to redevelop Goodison but they also told you that they were getting £52m from Tesco when they weren't getting a single penny; what are the odds eh?
Whether KEIOC choose to reveal what they do or not is a matter for them and under the present circumstances their discretion would appear to be extremely advisable. Unlike yourself I'm obviously fully aware of matters KEIOC have been involved in and your ignorance is noted with a nothing more than a wry smile that will be shared by many others.
Thomas, your first paragraph tells me everything I need to know about you, I did not need to read the rest, although I did as I felt in need of a good laugh and you’ll be pleased to know you succeeded admirably.
In cases such as this Evertonians fall into two categories, those that believe the myth and those that understand the reality. Some believe the stories, the excuses and the lies, others are offended by being subjected to them and, to the great embarrassment of the gullible, aren't afraid to point it out.
Take the Bill Kenwright fantasy world for example; good old Bill, the lad many believe watched his beloved Everton after his mum collected a few jam jars to pay for him to get into the boys pen where the piss soaked into his socks because he had holes in his shoes; that would be Bill Kenwright from the ghettos of Wavertree and Mossley Hill, whose father owned a builders, who went to [the then] relatively prestigious Liverpool Institute would it? It’s laughable that all these pseudo working class heroes feel it necessary to bullshit about their past. Some swallow it; it tells me that, as they’re bullshitting about their past, they’ll do so about the present.
I, along with many others, are offended by being told lies as what the perpetrator of those lies is actually saying is, “you’re stupid, you’ll believe this” and of course some people are and do. Some people actually believe, confirmed by my recent reading of an article on GOT, that Bill put everything he had into saving the club when the truth is he hasn't put a penny into saving anything whatsoever.
Here’s what you say Thomas,
“The motives of Everton’s board and company are relatively clear to me - to make money by building the club from the ruins of the 1990's”
That would be the club they bought for £22m which had £20m of assets on the balance sheet and today has only £35m of liabilities would it? They’re doing some great building there aren’t they? A £55m negative shift in the value of the balance sheet, some building that is. Couple that fact to the other facts surrounding their inability to address the stadium issue and the relative appalling commercial performance which has seen us signing a three year deal with one of the world’s leading kit suppliers who are paying all and sundry millions a season to wear their brand whilst we get what? Nothing, that’s right, nothing. The current board aren’t building, they’ve taken a poorly performing one and made it truly appalling. It’s laughable that these happy clappers attempt to talk about performances on the pitch; I’m a fan of Moyes, under the circumstances I believe he’s performed miracles, but in the time he’s been here he’s won nothing and in that time the other lot have won eleven trophies, yes that’s right ELEVEN. Talk about anything on the pitch is nothing short of clutching at straws, sheer desperation from the “at least we haven’t been relegated” and “at least we haven’t gone bust like Portsmouth” people who can’t bring themselves to support a fellow matchgoing Evertonian who has been treated in a disgraceful manner by those that they hold in such high esteem; it must be so painful.
This isn't about your misconceptions of the board or any fan groups Thomas, try to keep your well exhibited hatred for the latter under control for once; this isn't about the free school or Richard’s views on the free school; this is about the treatment a fellow Evertonian has received which every fair minded blue should be appalled about.
Over at Liverpool the other month, after their director of communications threatened a fan it was all over the internet as outraged fans spoke from the heart and then it was in the press. That was over nothing more than a joke account on Twitter, it was nothing; this is ten times worse, that’s why it’s being investigated, that’s why the FSF, Liberty and the press are all concerned and that's why fans need to understand the facts so that when they’re asked they don’t come across as complete balloons and go on about Richard being a part time journalist and talk about the club doing a wonderful job.
172 Posted 01/12/2012 at 16:55:00
182 Posted 01/12/2012 at 16:57:15
210 Posted 01/12/2012 at 19:46:04
This is taxpayers' money.
250 Posted 01/12/2012 at 22:53:46
289 Posted 02/12/2012 at 09:48:53
One visit to the stadium (30 seconds).
One phone call (30 seconds).
So much for an 'open door policy', question the club and you are 'harassing' staff.
One of my other crimes was to try and contact the Supporters' Liaison Officer. This was classed as 'harassment'.
Does anyone even know we have an SLO?
325 Posted 02/12/2012 at 16:03:25
350 Posted 02/12/2012 at 19:58:24
419 Posted 03/12/2012 at 10:42:35
On the topic in hand, I think your argument is more political than football so I ask the question: Why do you choose to protest against EFC as opposed to central Government, who actually introduced free schools — not EitC?
In one thread, you comment about the salary of the principal... why? We live in a society at present that is obsessed with what people earn yet we turn a blind eye when a dentist or GP can earn £200k plus per year on taxpayers money. MPs earn £65k and get slated yet MEPs earns £86k and get away with very little grief at all?
What I’m trying to say is, if the principal does a good job with the free school and underachieving children are improved, then why is his/her salary up for public debate?
456 Posted 03/12/2012 at 15:59:00
479 Posted 03/12/2012 at 18:21:54
WAKE UP will you! We’ve been lied to time after time, the lies keep being printed and exposed on sites like ToffeeWeb and still you have people repeating the stories about how good the board have been and the people with the facts expose them as tall stories or downright lies which disappear only to surface again at a later date. This story has all the hallmarks: KEIOC say one thing, the club official denies it then KEIOC expose the lie and the liar, after which the official shuts up.
I’m realising why Everton are in the position we’re in after all these years of winning nothing: it's because the majority of our fans just do nothing. They’re embarrassing – they just don’t care about what goes on. They’re happy with making up the numbers and can’t even stand by one of our own.
Look, enough is enough – don’t just put up with this. At the next game don’t buy a programme, don’t buy a thing inside the ground; support the team, the players and the manager but let the board, Elstone and most of all that gobshite who has persecuted and harassed an Evertonian know that we won’t be buying anything whilst he’s at the club.
To hell with Tyrrell and Elstone too,
We'll throw you both in the Mersey
And we’ll fight, fight, fight
With all our might
Cos kopites really are gobshites.
Seriously, joking apart, we can't let one of our own get treated like this; don't buy a thing.
487 Posted 03/12/2012 at 18:45:16
Most Evertonians won’t be interested; in fact I know they’re not. I bet I’m one of the few who have taken the time to speak with Dr Barrett-Baxendale, on more than one occasion and at some length, to School principle Adrian Packer and to Richard Knights and, as I’ve explained to Richard, although I appreciate his concerns over a possible lowering of standards as a result of reduced remuneration attracting lesser qualified teachers providing less efficient teaching, I understand that these children require highly qualified teachers and that claims that there are no provision for these children are perhaps slightly erroneous, as can be seen here only last week in the Echo — Richard’s argument being that money for this establishment will be reduced; my own position remains that Everton, through sport, could offer an alternative route and who am I to deny that which other Premier and Football League clubs are pursuing.
Not that I do not have reservations of course; I cannot understand the possible synergies between what the club has to offer and naughty kids; I would much prefer Everton provided education in sports science and business courses to people who will excel and make a career in these fields as I don’t want these kids to damage the image of Everton because I know these kids as they went to my school, they went to your school, they go to every school today and they’ll go to every school tomorrow and my own opinion is they need a good kick up the arse to be honest, but I know nothing about education and it’s only my opinion against acknowledged experts in a difficult field, so I hope they’ve got it right.
What’s happened to Richard, and I’ve seen what’s been alleged in full, believe me, it’s horrendous, has nothing to do with EitC’s involvement in the free school programme, this is about having the right to protest removed and it’s about acting like amateurs when we need professionals that don’t just pay lip service to subjects such as inclusion and don’t employ underhand tactics that mislead the police and other employees of Everton.
These serious allegations, which have seen Richard accused of harassing the free school principle along with other employees of the club that includes the bizarre allegation that he did so in the club shop which led to him being escorted off the premises by a security guard who provided a written statement; allegations that have caused Richard to be issued with a police warning, have his season ticket revoked, be banned from entering Goodison Park and warned not to speak to any employee of Everton, EitC, or the free school; if these allegations which led to these measures fail to be backed-up with irrefutable evidence, CCTV footage for example, then those responsible, those condoning through action or through silence, have no place at Goodison Park; on the other hand, if he’s guilty, let the bans stay in force indefinitely.
In the meantime, cracker suggestion Barry, I’m sure all those sponsors and suppliers who are signatories to ethical programmes will be delirious when they discover what people at Everton have done to Richard.
533 Posted 04/12/2012 at 08:27:04
If I’m honest, I was a terrible teenager myself but the difference was I loved school, I had some really brilliant teachers especially in sixth form who got me to grow up very quickly and realise life does exists outside L4. I owe them a lot and teachers play a massive part in our lives but we don’t realise it until we get older! I have become my Dad!!
I’m surprised at this story as it doesn’t make any sense from EFC, it is a total over reaction, and I’m surprised because if somebody wanted to have a chat with Denise she is more than capable of standing her own as she has bags of experience in this area.
568 Posted 04/12/2012 at 16:31:11
Yeah, good old Happy Al's, but they're not all like that tbf.
Like you also I’m surprised at how poorly Richard’s protest has been handled; I have to say most of the people I’ve met at Everton are more than capable of handling a little dissent.
The sledgehammer for a walnut subterfuge has been handled in a very amateur fashion. A very old trick, which hasn’t been well executed, now has the potential of becoming a real David and Goliath saga which will blow up in the faces of those who devised it as they attempt to cover their tracks. You’d have thought, at the very least, that the main players would be singing from the same hymn sheet but alas they can’t even get that right.
These charades work when you have decent material like the owner of the Epstein Hotel, who Liverpool FC successfully obtained an injunction against the other year; but a middle-aged quietly spoken primary school teacher who’s been accused of harassing somebody whose job will be tackling some of the worst behaved kids in the city? You’re having a giraffe.
I thought after the departure of Ian Ross we’d have seen a little more professionalism tbh, but there you go.
643 Posted 05/12/2012 at 02:49:11
I also remember something about Liverpool getting a restraining order against Paddy Duggan of Epstein House, must have got that when Tyrrell was there thinking about it, think some of the spirit of shankley were harassed and Paddy got done for butting a bird or something, obviously a bit of a lunatic and maybe where the plan to make a quiet school teacher look equally off his head came from????
Whatever the case Everton aren’t covering themselves with glory here at all.
912 Posted 07/12/2012 at 23:00:52
913 Posted 07/12/2012 at 23:05:28
I can fuly understand this viewpoint as Everton is after all a business like any other and they want to protect their financial interests. What I don't and can't understand is the methodology they have employed to eradicate the problem. What possible gain can there be in alienating a life-long supporter, he deserves a reward not a metophorical kick in the teeth.
Perhaps there is insufficient funds to send the staff on public relation management courses....sometimes Everton FC you are you're own worst enemy.
926 Posted 08/12/2012 at 00:55:59
928 Posted 08/12/2012 at 01:08:46
Patrick makes an excellent point about the methodology, the approach taken appears to lack a certain degree of professionalism. I'm not familiar with the details of the guy being banned from Finch Farm so I'm not going to comment, but I am familiar with Richard's plight having spent several hours with him and Merseyside Police as a result of his three complaints to the IPCC being upheld.
I have to tell you these allegations, the season ticket removal and being banned from Goodison, particularly the nature of the allegations are deeply effecting Richard and his family. These allegations, which it now turns out are completely unsupported by any evidence, are disgraceful and whilst the treatment which Richard has received should both disgust and worry not just all Evertonians but all football fans in general, it's refreshing that he's receiving professional support along with the support of so many Evertonians even before the issue becomes widely known as inevitably it now will.
In my opinion, and hopefully that of many others, the making of malicious and vexatious allegations is nothing more than a form of bullying and no decent person should stand by and allow such an activity to be inflicted on anyone; along with racism and cruelty to any living being they should be excluded along with the shithouses that practice these nauseating practices.
938 Posted 08/12/2012 at 08:25:46
With these two examples becoming public knowledge, it gives the impression of an organisation at odds with it's own supporters & makes you wonder what other instances of supporter maltreatment are yet to come to light. Is our club run by people who only have contempt for the very supporters that the club is dependent upon?
Whatever the truth maybe, it seems the club may soon find it's turned the phrase "The People's Club" into a stick for the media to beat it with.
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