Does anyone else resent the way the fixture list always comes up with the first derby match at Goodison, early on in the season, followed by the return at Anfield late on. This has happened for about 20 years on the trot, and cannot be random. It invariably means that Liverpool always have the last laugh, because we never win at Anfield.
I think, because Everton just seem to accept the status quo without complaint, the FA are happy to continue with this formula, and I've no doubt that next season's derby fixtures will fall in the same order.
Some people say the order of the fixtures does not matter, because we have to play every team home and away regardless. Okay, if it doesn't matter, let's just swap them around anyway, because one thing's for certain, and that is that it's not working in Everton's favour at the moment.
Mike Goodwin, Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:12:23
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669 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:47:56
670 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:47:16
671 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:50:04
Does anyone else remember the last time we went to Anfield for the first derby? Was it when Kev Campbell scored the winner in 2000/2001? I might be wrong on almost all counts there...
672 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:52:37
673 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:57:40
674 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:58:04
675 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:00:42
676 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:07:52
A computerised system is used to determine the fixtures. Once a draft schedule is produced the schedulers then consult with the Fixtures Working Party, which is made up of representatives from clubs across the Leagues and from supporters' organisations.
The final stage concludes with a consultation meeting with the Association of Chief Police Officers and the British Transport Police.
However, there are many factors that need to be taken into account before the computerised system can compile the fixture list successfully.
Fixtures can only be set once dates for other competitions have been confirmed, eg the FA Cup, UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, and these considerations can make it difficult to find slots for some games.
In addition , there are exceptions when clubs or local authorities make specific requests if, for example, a major event is being held in the city on that day and a police force requests that a club has an away fixture. For these reasons fixture dates can change throughout the season.
We will always try to give at least four to six weeks’ notice when fixtures move and recommend that supporters do not book non-refundable travel or accommodation until live television selections and other factors such as cup matches have been determined.
680 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:00:33
690 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:43:58
696 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:03:29
710 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:34:52
"This local derby is also unique in the fact that the fixtures are played in a certain order. Since 2003, an agreement has been in place to hold the first derby of every season at Goodison Park, and the second at Anfield. There are several benefits to this arrangement: not only does this prevent long waits between home derbies for either team, but ensures that the flow of television revenue is more even due to the fact that the second derby cannot always be televised on Sky. Reasons for this vary, from cup commitments to late-season fixture congestion."
Can anyone officially verify this?!? Would make sense, but one thing I used to like about the fixture list was the element of surprise - that is now gone it would seem.
713 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:38:52
717 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:40:47
Not to mention 1984/85, when Sharpy banged the winner on 20th October at the Annie road end.
720 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:44:37
734 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:00:09
737 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:10:57
740 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:21:14
"I would like the Derby game to be the first home game for each club every season"
So, you're suggesting that its efc v lfc and then lfc v efc as the first 2 matches of the season? Same for the manchester teams etc?
Ridiculous! Would hugely favour whichever team had the better pre-season, and in the case of the manchester clubs at present,would have a large bearing on the title race within the first couple of games.
Never going to happen, thankfully.
742 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:28:19
776 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:55:21
They only needed a draw that day to break it.
783 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:19:30
1996 - four minutes from time, Robbie Fowler gets an equaliser, denying us a derby double
2000 - Graham Poll blows 15 seconds early, another double denied
2007 - If only Reina had not just about managed to toe Johnson's shot at the last second!
786 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:29:09
808 Posted 25/04/2013 at 21:11:21
811 Posted 25/04/2013 at 21:29:56
813 Posted 25/04/2013 at 21:25:47
846 Posted 26/04/2013 at 04:37:55
857 Posted 26/04/2013 at 07:11:36
If we go out with our tails between our legs as usual the outcome will be the usual one.
947 Posted 26/04/2013 at 16:49:02
Do ya think them lot over there; really give a flying fuck who plays who first? Just concentrate on beating them.
There’s something in the air this year.
015 Posted 26/04/2013 at 20:48:15
021 Posted 26/04/2013 at 20:50:21
They'll never admit this, but as Sky are the dominant domestic broadcaster, with 6 of the 8 packages tendered, they get first dibs for most fixtures. They're also able to schedule these "blockbuster" weekends.
Interestingly, BT Vision paid such a huge premium for their 2 packages kicking in from next season as they wanted more rounds of fixtures where they get first dibs.
Colour me surprised when their allocated picks avoid all of the big matches Sky wants. £800m well spent there.
042 Posted 26/04/2013 at 23:25:40
049 Posted 27/04/2013 at 00:16:40
It does make me wonder whether there is a request to play Goodison first. Who could have an interest in that?
052 Posted 27/04/2013 at 00:21:41
Paul Andrews (#857) — "makes no difference". It shouldn't make a difference in European fixtures: both teams play home and away, but it is always seen as a bonus if you are drawn away first. Coincidentally, Liverpool in Europe always seem to play at home in the second leg, although there may be a reason for that.
Richard Reeves (#680) — "It shouldn't really matter". Of course you are right, but it does matter, because statistically we have got a better chance of gaining a draw or a win at home, compared to our abysmal record at Anfield. Therefore, all I am asking is for the fixtures to be reversed, so that we can get our Anfield defeat out of the way early on, and then later in the season have a better chance of gaining a draw or a rare win at Goodison when the season is drawing to a close and results are paramount.
Liam Reilly (#947) – Yes, I do think 'them lot over there' give a flying fuck. I think it suits them down to the ground and for that reason I would like to change it, regardless of whether it would make any difference.
064 Posted 27/04/2013 at 06:30:13
I'm betting on a draw or a single goal either way. If we go ahead early, I expect Moyes will go into his defensive shell and blow it. It would be nice to finish the season off with 4 wins so here's hoping.
231 Posted 27/04/2013 at 21:32:12
As it happens, I agree with you.
960 Posted 30/04/2013 at 10:17:20
Disagree. The advantage in Europe is obvious over two legs and doesn't apply here.
This LPL team has been poor over the past few seasons and we should be going to Anfield trying to do the double over them; ergo putting the pressure on them, but consistently failing to win at home cause this anxiety.
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