A first-half Naismith hat-trick against AEK Athens which finally saw Everton produce some encouraging preseason form that could have generated a little more optimism has had a bucket of cold water thrown over it by manager David Moyes, who was keen to play down any expectations paced on his new Scottish signing.
He said: I don't want too much heat on him. It's one thing scoring in a pre-season friendly than scoring in the Premier League. But if he can start as well as Jelavic then we will be delighted.
I'm playing it down, he's been out for nine months so we can't expect him to be completely ready right at the start.
He can play a couple of positions for us. We're still getting to know him and learning more about him.
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647 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:25:19
649 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:32:14
651 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:25:00
You've never got this club, Moyes, and you never will.
652 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:36:00
Here's some Moyes positivity...
- After Baines has an outstanding season, Moyes says he is the 'second best' left back in the country.
- Barkley plays a few good games... "he needs to learn to defend"
- Jelly scores a bagfull of goals... "he needs time to settle".
- Hibbert scores his first goal "the fans ruined it"....
653 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:40:31
655 Posted 10/08/2012 at 16:44:12
Moyes has called this perfectly, but only an idiot would miss his point.
Over to you Mungo...
656 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:03:20
Another more positive manager would big him up along the lines of, "A great start for the lad, after a bad injury and 9 months out to get 3 goals is fantastic. Imagine what this boy will do fully fit."
I am fed up with his dour negative attitude.
657 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:06:35
Utter bollox. He has messed up at times but that is crap. Maybe he should have turned around and said "can't believe we got the new Messi on our hands, he will terrorise defences and win us the League".
658 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:09:32
And after a few mediocre games, all the crowd starts getting on his back because of his lack of match fitness and the lack of goals he has scored.
The fact he says "I am playing it down", is a statement that he realises he could be a goodun but doesn't want to heap a load of pressure on a twice fucked cruciate player making a massive step up from the Scottish League.
661 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:18:39
663 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:19:38
However, his fucking miserable attitude to the Hibbert 'riot', imo, stunk.
Be honest, if he was your P.E teacher, you'd hate him and you know he'd be a twat.
Phrases such as 'I won't tell you again lad!', 'Don't make me come down there boy' and 'Your feet will not touch, am I making myself clear!?" exist for such men.
664 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:34:23
665 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:30:30
This default to the dour is absolutely tiresome. How anyone suggests criticising this man's antics as "negative" is beyond me, he is to positivity what Dracula is to the Blood Bank.
Alarmingly this fatal cosiness with Kenwright will ensure those of us not happy with present day EFC endure more of this; another payrise in the offing will cement their symbiosis and then they'll go on the SKY sofa proclaiming the swashbuckling adventure of circa 8th.
I can't wait for the movie "Moyes FC" a tale of one man's cure for insomnia wonder if Spielberg knows?
666 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:46:04
Look at some of the comments Moyes has made about people like Coleman, saying that he looks like a 60k player and you have to wonder whether giving players confidence and self-belief is anathema to the guy.
I actually really like what I've seen from Naismith so far. He looks sharp, works hard, knows where the net is and seems to have a knack of popping up in the right places. Not to mention his understanding with Jelavic, I think its a very good bit of business by Moyes to get him in.
670 Posted 10/08/2012 at 17:58:40
You'rer talking bollocks if Moyes would of said "Naismith scored a hat-trick and we're hoping for good things from him" and then he gets off to a stinker, you would be saying it's Moyes's fault he told us he was good. He is playing it down, he does not want to put pressure on him. But I guess you're one of these Moyes haters so it won't make any difference what he says.
671 Posted 10/08/2012 at 18:10:33
I would hope that if he scored against Man Utd, more praise would be forthcoming however.
674 Posted 10/08/2012 at 18:18:57
675 Posted 10/08/2012 at 18:07:00
677 Posted 10/08/2012 at 18:27:07
I only do so because you bullies come on here shouting and frightening the rest of us about how great Moyes is every 5 mins.
"I am but a man"
(rests forehead on back of hand and looks to the heavens in angst)
I'm just trying to add some balance in my own little way!
678 Posted 10/08/2012 at 18:42:22
694 Posted 10/08/2012 at 22:19:25
None of us know for sure but I'm pretty sure all the confidence boosting stuff is being said to him directly.
Well it fucking better be!
695 Posted 10/08/2012 at 22:11:45
How can anyone criticise the sense behind the words? It will be tougher to score when the season kicks off, and the lad isn't likely to be rushed into things if it jeopardises his recovery.
All Moyes is doing is preparing the player and the fans for the reality. Based on these words I would expect Naismith to feel like the manager is bothered about his overall well-being and is simultaneously setting him a challenge - to make a similar impact to Jelavic.
This was part of a longer piece in the Echo in which Moyes also said that the team was strong but the squad was small so we will need everyone to keep fit, and he would like to add a pacy right winger and striking cover if possible.
Keep forgetting that some people think being a 'genuine' supporter means manic cheer-leading or clenched jaw, eye-bulging jingoism.
701 Posted 10/08/2012 at 23:08:51
As an aside, how many times did Kenwright want an applause for himself on Wednesday. Surely it wasn't his testimonial!
706 Posted 11/08/2012 at 00:12:02
He's talking to the media, not the players. I can't ever remember any manager, SAF, Mancini, Wenger and the rest going on record as saying 'got a great set of players, just watch us win stuff this season' - its called setting yourself up for a fall, or becoming a 'hostage to fortune' as some still say.
And while Moyes hardly possesses the 'famous scouse sense of humour' he has his own style, drier than sandpaper. If I gambled, I'd put money on him in a wind-up contest.
The Prem didn't know how to handle Jelavic when he got going in February(?) but he will be a very marked man in the next few weeks. Moyes, I'm sure, will be annoyed that Naismith has drawn attention to himself with the hatrick. The last thing he wants to do is to say to the rest of the league - 'mark this guy'.
708 Posted 11/08/2012 at 02:19:42
709 Posted 11/08/2012 at 02:41:03
"Brendan Rodgers is considering moves for Adam Johnson, Nuri Sahin and Clint Dempsey in the wake of Joe Allen's arrival at Liverpool from Swansea City."
And many many other Prem teams are making million pound signings almost on a daily basis even those who like us don't have BILLIONAIRE owners.
But hey look on the bright side: we have Daft Davey the 'Best' Manager in the Prem according to the sycophants and the Media but a man that strangely 'no one else wants' and of course Billy Liar as an owner.
711 Posted 11/08/2012 at 04:51:17
712 Posted 11/08/2012 at 05:00:40
I could well believe he will not start with Naismith but bring him on maybe for 20-odd minutes at the end. After all, think of the risks: yes, we could go out and try to outscore moneybags Man Utd... but at the risk of losing that precious point we start with.
Best not risk it.
714 Posted 11/08/2012 at 05:58:22
715 Posted 11/08/2012 at 06:01:53
717 Posted 11/08/2012 at 07:13:55
"I would have paid many more millions than I actually paid for this kid. His intelligence is tremendous, for a 22-year-old to play like that is frightening".
One manager glass half-full; one manager glass half-empty.
718 Posted 11/08/2012 at 08:13:15
719 Posted 11/08/2012 at 08:19:44
720 Posted 11/08/2012 at 08:31:34
But after reading that, that's negative even for Moyes! Especially after he scored a hattrick from the right wing position.
721 Posted 11/08/2012 at 08:37:09
Should have gone to....
722 Posted 11/08/2012 at 09:46:16
724 Posted 11/08/2012 at 09:58:42
725 Posted 11/08/2012 at 09:53:20
727 Posted 11/08/2012 at 10:20:07
742 Posted 11/08/2012 at 14:35:20
744 Posted 11/08/2012 at 15:52:04
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