Neville: Keep Calm and Carry On

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Phil Neville thinks Everton have players up-and-coming through the ranks to cope with the loss of Jack Rodwell, who hasn't real played for the team in the last six months.

“I think, first and foremost, it is sad to see Jack go. He's been a lad that first trained with us when he was 16.

“You've seen him grow and mature and turn into an England international.

“I think it's a fantastic deal for both parties. For Jack, to go and play at the Champions League level and for the club to receive a lot of money.

“I think the club's done a fantastic job with Jack in terms of helping him fulfil that potential.

“I think we have got a number of players in midfield, but Jack provided great competition. With any young player, you do get inconsistency with performances. I think we saw that with Jack at times.

“He produced some unbelievable performances in the big occasions for us. The disappointing thing was that he never quite sustained it when he was about to break through.

“We are quite strong in central midfield — bearing in mind that Jack hadn't played for the last six months — so I'm sure we can cope with that.

“It's important to always freshen up with new faces. We have Ross Barkley and Francisco Junior breaking through now. You lose one player but you open up a space and an opportunity for someone else.”

Quotes or other material sourced from Liverpool Daily Post



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James Flynn
1 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:17:51
Any opinions on Francisco breaking thru this season?
David Chait
2 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:29:30
Barring injury to some players I don't see an extended run.. maybe a few minutes in injury time as is Moyes's want.

Injuries though happen.. a fair amount too. Gibson wont last every game.. But him and Barkley might have to hurdle the midfield brilliance of Heitinga and Neville to get a look in.

Chris Davies
3 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:10:36
Well said Nev.
Total sense.
Chris Davies
4 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:34:02
Junior will get 20 mins in the Manc game when we've scored our 4th and the game's secure - 4-0.
Keith Glazzard
5 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:27:37
Pip is club captain, and we know that Moyes has a very high opinion of him. But I'm trying think - just how unusual is it for a player to be making this kind of statement for the club? It is very much in the manager's territory.

In fact, when something like this comes up - who should be playing where? transfers? squad strength? - the usual 'professional' response goes like 'Oh you'd better ask the boss about that one'.

There's a lot of 'oddness' about the whole Rodwell thing, and to me this adds a bit more.

Kevin Day
6 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:37:31
I honestly think Junior will get more playing time than Ross, Junior has been very very good in pre season bar a few dodgy challenges here and there which can be put down to rustiness/ youthful exhurberence. (if that's how it's spelt, apologies of not),
David Chait
7 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:42:35
What was strange about it Keith was the absolute naked honesty in his answer. No frills... no spin.
Keith Glazzard
8 Posted 14/08/2012 at 15:46:03
David - Not the content of his statement, which, incidentally, I totally agree with.

What is strange is that you have a player making such a statement in the first place - unless it happens all the time and I'm not keeping up.

Mike Gaynes
9 Posted 14/08/2012 at 16:57:47
David and Keith, that's always been Pip's pattern. He says exactly what he thinks. Never known him to be "diplomatic" or fall back on the professional response.

I take his statement at face value. He mentioned Rodwell's lengthy absence without saying that he was missed, and he used the words "unbelievable" and "disappointing" deliberately. No holding back there.

Mick Davies
10 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:04:39
Strange thing is, all the fellow blues I've spoken to haven't shed any tears over JR going. The only one who seems to care is Nev, and I don't know if it's because he's going to City and not his beloved Utd...
Ciarán McGlone
11 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:14:36
Says the man who couldn't wait to see the Spice Girls on Sunday...

Paul David
12 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:12:45
As long as he isn't talking about himself when he says we're strong in centre midfield.
Ciarán McGlone
13 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:16:39
"David and Keith, that's always been Pip's pattern. He says exactly what he thinks."
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Unbridled Bollocks... he's a 'yes man' for the club... from Kirkby to any other shite that needs to be spun.

Keith Glazzard
14 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:15:36
Mike - the point I'm making is that this goes way beyond the kind of thing any player - Pip included - would normally say. I suppose its proof, if proof were ever needed, of Neville's status in the club. On the OS, speaking as if he was the manager, assistant or even, come to think of it, the owner.
Keith Glazzard
15 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:29:35
Nice one Paul - I was thinking exactly the same.
Steve Smith
16 Posted 14/08/2012 at 17:47:26
Keith,

Neville's never been backward in coming forward with his opinions, although he is quite diplomatic in the way he gives it, and he always tries to put a positive spin on it (maybe he thinks that's part of a captain's job).

I think the club also know that he wouldn't ever say anything against the club policy on transfers, or anything else for that matter, so they are probably quite happy for him to speak to the media when needed. I don't believe he's a club yes-man though, it's maybe better to notice what he doesn't say rather than what he does.
Harry Wallace
17 Posted 14/08/2012 at 19:41:48
I think Keith has a point. It's really easy to see the EFC propaganda machine at work. The first point Rodwell made was how great Bill was. The first point Cahill made was how great Bill was. Could it be that Bill had to sell?!

Then Neville comes out saying how strong our midfield is. We've sold or released McFadden, Drenthe, Wallace, Forshaw, Arteta, Bily, Baxter, Cahill and now Rodwell. It's weaker in numbers without doubt. After the protests, they are super keen to avoid supporter unrest at any cost.
Keith Glazzard
18 Posted 14/08/2012 at 19:47:46
There's no doubt that Neville is 'a safe pair of trousers' as they say in politics, and he does do a good job of representing the club.

My point all along has been that it is odd for a player (in any club) to be, what?, allowed to say so much about about a decision made by the manager and/or owner. Players get fined for less - not by us, because they don't step out of line. What I'm saying is that we have an unusual situation in football here - in any 'business' come to think of it.

And it must suit Moyes for Neville to go public in this way (or it wouldn't happen). I wonder why?

Keith Glazzard
19 Posted 14/08/2012 at 20:09:29
Harry - yes it is 'propaganda' and every club does it.

I wouldn't be too worried about the list of released players you've quoted. The Arteta case is a strange one as we know. Cahill is quite straightforward. To be honest, I'm still puzzled as to why MC came for Jack. Mancini made the right noises, but he didn't sound at all convincing to me.

I'll be back in Fallowfield in a few days and some of my mates are City insiders. I'll be interested to find out what they make of it all.

Mike Gaynes
20 Posted 14/08/2012 at 20:09:15
Oh, Harry, please... of that whole long list of released/sold midfielders, who have we missed? The only real loss on that list was Arteta. Much as I love Cahill, his time had passed. And despite his talent, Drenthe turned out to be an ass. We finished the season with Felli, Gibson, Pienaar and Osman/Gueye, and we won a lot of games with them.

Losing Rodwell may hurt... or not. It'll depend on who Moyes brings in to replace him before we know. And I didn't see Junior or Barkley this preseason, but Moyes did, and he appears to have both of them in the midfield mix. One thing is for sure... they could both play with their shoes tied together and be better than Bily, Forshaw, Baxter, Wallace or McFadden.

Ste Traverse
21 Posted 14/08/2012 at 20:29:49
Harry Wallace, I too found it strange Rodwell straight away talked up this clown Kenwright as soon as he left, as did Cahill.

Going back further, Arteta did the same. These's no doubt in my mind these words have been put into their mouths from people upstairs at Everton.

I'm fucking sick of the Goodison PR machine, and the same fans falling for the shit they spin.

Chad Schofield
22 Posted 14/08/2012 at 20:39:35
Neville really is a fantastic diplomat and leader.

From him anything less than a positive spin on things at this stage would be suicidal.

Steve Smith
23 Posted 14/08/2012 at 20:51:44
Ste #865

You only wish that to be true I think, players don't need to say anything about their previous clubs, It's not a contractual obligation to be fawning about your former employers and I can't see any reason for them to say anything positive or otherwise, unless they wanted to.

Dean Adams
24 Posted 14/08/2012 at 21:17:59
It's often said that the truth hurts!!!!!
John Audsley
25 Posted 14/08/2012 at 21:21:38
Well, it does seem the norm that any high profile player who leaves GP has to say how wonderful Blue Bill is. He was on the front page of the official site last week shaking Hibbert's hand at the testimonial. He doesn't miss a trick and its clear to me the PR spin is in full swing. They realise Bluey is the main target should things start to go wrong and are building him up at all opportunity.

If we do sign anyone, I'm sure we will see pics of the new player and Bill shaking hands and cuddling plus the usual "Bill worked till 23:59 on deadline day to pull this off for YOU Blues!"

No-one will step out of line and Pip fully realises that his playing days are nearly over, he probably wants a shot at the top job so these articles will all help.

And, if we do end up in the bottom 3 after 3 games you can bet Bluey will still get a massive hand clap and cheer when he is pictured on the Big screen. He's a Blue and one of us after all.......

Si Cooper
26 Posted 14/08/2012 at 21:39:14
Steve Smith (#865) - maybe not contractually obliged but none of us know what greasing of palms or 'you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back' conversations may have preceded these statements.

Rodders said the Chairman didn't want to sell him, so why did we? We all know the answer to that question.

Steve Smith
27 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:04:23
Or maybe Si, it serves to prove just how far detached the players and officials are from the paying public, can you think of any player since Kenwright was at the helm, who has left the club and then slagged him off? I can't......surely he hasn't got that kind of hold/palm greasing etc. on every player has he?
I tend to believe that most players have a genuine affection for him, although I haven't got a fucking clue why they do.

Our chairman never wants to sell anyone according to him, but he always manages to fight that urge every season.

Peter Warren
28 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:27:19
I remember Neville saying losing arteta was a good deal too. When Jelavic is sold for 15m that will be a good deal. When Barkley is sold in a year or two that will be a good deal.
Lee Gray
29 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:40:39
Why are you all so negative?

We kept our best players... Jack was not one of them...

Move on.
Nick Armitage
30 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:44:29
Fuck off Neville you giftless twat.
Shaun Lyon
31 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:44:37
Not exactly a response to this but I'm sure many will have noted tonight that Standard Chartered Bank have had to pay $380 million to the US treasury over dodgy dealings.....

Now, which Premier Leauge team do they sponsor I wonder? Amazing. One is a rogue enterprise full of overpaid useless employees, some of whose activities border on the criminal... and the other's a bank.
Kev Johnson
32 Posted 14/08/2012 at 22:55:00
Like it, Shaun!

Although I'm not 100% sure Chang are an island of probilty in a sea of Thai corruption - who knows?

Jason Lam
33 Posted 15/08/2012 at 06:57:37
I though Neville got it right this time. The keynote here was that Jack was never consistent enough to merit a first XI spot. The flashes of brilliance are acknowledged but Rodwell couldn't do a job for 90 mins week in week out. His standout performances as a first XI professional were man-marking Suarez and Silva.

I don't understand why the Captain cannot speak on behalf of the club. Has Moyes been offended? Undermind?

Richard Jones
34 Posted 15/08/2012 at 08:04:55
this is a tactic called pre empting that the club are using, first of all you get a player to say very diplomatically that the guy who is leaving was a good player but in around about way we wont miss him, then also intimate that we have this position covered which really means he wont be replaced.

it puts the suggestion out there so its less of a shock when we sign Know one, its clever and if there was a league for spin we would be top.

Anto Byrne
35 Posted 15/08/2012 at 08:12:29
I like Phil Neville, he is a good professional and like it or not we play better with him on the field captaining the team. If Moyes spits the dummy and moves on then we have a ready made replacement who I believe would be inclined to play a more adventurous brand of football. Players come and go and I remember being totally distraught the day they sold Alan Ball to Arsenal but we move on and new players come in and life goes on. Its looks like Rodwell had a 100,000 good reasons to leave so even if he don't win anything he is made for life unlike us average punters not born to kick a ball full of wind.
Jim Harrison
36 Posted 15/08/2012 at 08:25:45
To be fair, it reads pretty brutally to me. He basically says "Jack could be good, but isn't really yet".
Bobby Thomas
37 Posted 15/08/2012 at 08:21:07
Its clear from Baz Rathbones book that the staff at Everton hold Kenwright in very high regard.

In one section, we are having a poor run in the league (it may been the season we had gone out of the champions league and uefa) and it was an away game in London.

As described in Rathbones book, the word was after one of the team meals the chairman wanted to have a word. Things were pretty tense as they expecting a bollocking as form had been very poor.

Anyway, as told Kenwright gave a fantastic speech passionately outlining his love for the club, how he had faith in the players and the staff, that they were the best he could wish for and how he knew they would turn it round. It was a tonic, not the grilling they expected and the players appreciated it.

I make no real comment on it, other than I would take the players comments at face value.

I was at a game very early last season when Kenwright arrived, no not THAT one, and Kenwright arrived, Rodwell was there and they walked in together chatting away. I think Evertons a bit of a bubble, its close, tight knit and the players seem well looked after. Many players have referred to the homely, family nature and the team spirit.

There are many things wrong at Everton. But I actually think its one of the best things about the club and one of our biggest strengths.

Jim Harrison
38 Posted 15/08/2012 at 09:05:20
To be fair Bobby, from a players perspective I am sure BK seems a good bloke. He pays them a fortune and gives them transfers when they want them.

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