Stats highlight Everton's derby edge

30/10/2012

Blues passing shows who really played the football

Steven Gerrard may be trying his best to claim that Liverpool were the better side in Sunday's 219th Merseyside derby, but the statistics from the game disprove the Reds captain's ridiculous assertion that Everton are a "long ball" team.

Still smarting from the late 'goal' that would have handed Brendan Rodgers' team an undeserved win but was chalked off by the officials, Gerrard tried to draw comparisons with Stoke City's direct and physical approach.

"There was only one team who came into the derby trying to play football," Gerrard bleated. "Everton are effective because they have some big physical lads in the team and are very direct.

Everton are not better than us. I thought we stood up to a team that are very similar to Stoke. Every single time they got the ball to their goalkeeper it came in long. We had a young, small team and they were all men and stood together. We deserved the win."

The match stats paint a different picture, though. Everton attempted 478 passes to their 357, made over a hundred accurate passes more than the Reds (359 to 257) and delivered twice as many crosses into the box, creating more chances, and forced Liverpool into more tackles.

Most salient, though: the Blues' long-ball total was 14% compared with Liverpool's 17%.

Liverpool also made almost three times as many backpasses as Everton, and Tim Howard recorded a 59% pass completion rate, while Keeper Jones had just 38% — and Howard made more open play passes than his rival.

Everton successfully completed 100 of 154 attempted passes in Liverpool's final third, with Liverpool completing 63 of their 103 attempted passes in Everton's final third.

As if that wasn't enough, Gerrard opened himself up to further ridicule with his complaints at Phil Neville's ill-advised dive to try and win a free kick late in the first half.

A video compilation of just some of Gerrard's simulation antics for club and country — not to mention Luis Suarez's disgusting behaviour in recent weeks — should be enough evidence to persuade the midfielder that people in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

Quotes or other material sourced from The Guardian

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Chris Keightley
259 Posted 30/10/2012 at 08:42:53
James, I saw the same article this morning on the way to work —comparing us to Stoke who are conveniently below them by a place unfortunately... He also forgot to say that we had 57% of the possession, what a nob !!
Tom Bowers
290 Posted 30/10/2012 at 12:19:52
So much sour grapes from Stevie Grapes. Very poor from Hodgson's appointed England captain. So much luck he has enjoyed in Derby matches and now opening his big mouth because of his mob throwing away an undeserved 2-0 lead and getting screwed by a linesman.

Does it not matter that Everton got screwed last season with a blatant Ratboy dive and a bad refereeing call that gave Rodwell an undeserved Red card and cost Everton the game? He really is showing his true colours now as a spoilt kid who is taking his ball and going home to Mummy.

What an asshole.
Andrew Ellams
291 Posted 30/10/2012 at 12:43:12
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129

What a classless arse!

Mike Iddon
295 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:09:44
I see in this article from today's Guardian that the captain of our lovable neighbours can't accept what the stats say... what a twat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/29/liverpool-steven-gerrard-everton-physical

Accusation of being a 'long-ball, physical team' is what Fergie said when we beat the Mancs as I remember. We must be getting under their skin, excellent.

Kieran Kinsella
296 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:11:01
Steven Gerrard has been quoted as saying that Everton play like Stoke city. The past-it skipper of the weakest team on Merseyside went on to say that only one team came to play "football" on Sunday. However, the normally pro-Liverpool BBC Sport team seemed to disagree with his statements. His critique of the Blues was followed up by this statement from the editorial team:

"The statistics, however, showed that Everton enjoyed greater possession, made more passes and completed proportionally fewer long passes than Liverpool."

I hope he reads it and looks at their in depth break down of the stats because if he does he will feel pretty foolish — and this was an Everton team not even playing that well.

Shaun Kinnair
304 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:20:27
Gerrad.... hang your head in shame!!! How wrong are you, which game was you playing in... Bitter and Fustrated captain, knowing that Liverpool are no longer going forward but backwards must be hard to take... a player who could and should have gone to Chelsea to gain a league medal but decided to retire with none.

They use to call us bitter blues but the OPTA stats don't lie, the table doesn't lie.... so who's bitter now?? Only Mr Steven Gerrad, he must cry himself to sleep these days and his only pleasure is to make jealous cheap insults.

Patrick Murphy
305 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:24:06
Don't forget that in their pursuit of a god-given right to play CL football , drawing at Goodison was a setback for them, as they have to play catch up on us Arsenal and Spurs as well as a couple of others. They have to rely on all those clubs slipping up whilst at the same time win their own games, it would seem to me that SG realises that week by week their chances of achieving their goal slips away. This to me explains his comments but in no way does it excuse them.
Ian Taylor
306 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:32:30
I don't know why people are getting so annoyed by this. We have a line in a song, 'we don't care what the Red Shite say'. The deluded ramblings of their skipper shouldn't concern us, and stats don't win games (despite what Brendan Rodgers and his cohorts try to shove down our throats).

A point was all we got from the game, all our focus should be on the next match against Fulham, a war of words with the Kopites over last Sunday's game doesn't help our cause.
Colin Wainwright
307 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:32:04
The guys a gobshite. Everyone knows this, apart from the tracky clad red shite hordes and they don't matter.

Anyone who watched the match knows he's talking complete bollocks.

Mark Tanton
309 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:41:50
It must be frustrating when you're the wrong side of thirty, got fewer medals than most of your England teamates and are generally regarded as 'gone at the game'. Gerrard looked shot yesterday - he's not the player we used to fear. Remember Goodison celebrating his injury and substitution in the Gosling Cup Tie? That's respect and fear. Now he's a shadow of that man.
Ray Roche
310 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:43:43
Ian.

A war of words may not help our cause but it's fun.

Nathan Moore
312 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:42:15
You mean the Liverpool captain that only did anything of note in 2 5-minute blocks for the whole game?? How many of their players did we injure with bad tackles? (not enough usually suffices, but...)

All-in-all, I thought a draw was a fair result; our domination should have won us the game, but they probably shouldn't have had that goal disallowed (definitely not for offside, there looked to be a foul on Jags but apparently that wasn't picked up).

But what I am hating is the redshite fans & players saying they were robbed, when they have had the rub of the green in just about every derby for the last 700 years! They obviously can't remember last season when the most influential player on the pitch was sent off for a perfect tackle.

Paul Thompson
316 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:55:44
He and they are rattled by us - that's in part why it matters. His pathetic self-serving comments haver been panned on the BBC footie site. I particularly liked the following:

'As a Liverpool fan I have to say he is talking nonsense. Like West Brom earlier this season they were direct but not in a Stoke way, they had great movement and individual skill amd there was always a passing option. More of a Real Madrid lite. Our pressing game wasn't up to scratch and at times we were awfully static in attack in contrast'.

Bob Skelton
317 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:46:59
Personally I'm glad we are witnessing the last days of Stevie boy. Not the player he was, on the slippery slope to being a nomark. His astute (sic) reading of the Derby will mean that Red Nev need not worry about losing his commentary position with Sky. Did he get any qualifications from school? Adding up, or reading statistics don't appear to be his strong points......
Ian Taylor
318 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:58:36
Touché Ray, but it's a pretty one sided debate when it's posted on TW.
James Martin
319 Posted 30/10/2012 at 13:57:00
Never realised he was so bitter until I saw this and some recent excerpts from his autobiography. He really does hate us doesn't he, horrible chants aside, carragher and Gerrard seem to be guilty of the exact thing they accuse us of. They always go on about Everotn only worrying about finishing above Liverpool but it seems the only game they ever really want to win each season is against us. To be honest this sort of stuff is music to my ears, rather this any day than Ferguson and Gerrard going on about what a great club we are and how they love playing in these passionate games (after they've walked away with an easy 2-0 win). I think they realised from last season and the start of this one that the derbies would be crucial. they own both last year and still finished 4 behind us. we're already 6 ahead this year, its probably clear to steven that we may well take more points off everyone else in the league than they will so these 6 points woould be crucial to them. As it is they've made no ground on us even when we were severely weakened by injuries and had given them a 2 goal lead. Add this to the fact that his own powers are severely waning and he couldn't get near a combination of Osman and Neville and he must be in a world of frustration. The delusional leading the delusional.
Jamie Barlow
326 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:18:27
Maybe we don't want a debate Ian.

Just a lot of piss taking.

Ian Taylor
330 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:06:56
I see, well then I'm surprised $tevie Me hasn't applied to become an orthodon'tist so he can fix Suarez's teeth, so in future they aren't caught offside :)
Christopher Kelly
332 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:28:28
Well, all of their peers (Man U, Chelsea, Man City etc.) have passed them by... We're now the team for them to compare themselves/compete with - and we're passing them by too hopefully.

The blessing and curse of a star player is that they're great, but tough to sell because the fans love them so much. If they had sold Gerrard 2-3 years ago they could've gotten 50+m for the cretin. Now he'll retire a loser and they'll receive nothing for him. Their owners have a lot of money to reinvest in their baseball team and that Liverpool side we're seeing must be the worst they've put out in a long, long time. Long die the reds!

He's no idiot, he can see the writing on the wall. If I were him I'd be pissed too :)

Chris Leyland
333 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:39:04
Just to clarify "we don't care what the red shite say" unless it is their has-been, washed up, bitter, deluded, disgrace of a captain making a complete tool of himself
Stephen Graham
338 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:48:15
Easy lads! Calling him a gobshite or twat is an insult to gobshites and twats everywhere!
Dave Kelly
340 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:49:43
LFC – a seedy, tacky club full to the brim of nasty individuals who have not one single ounce of class.

It's taken the football world a long time to realise it though.
Jim Harrison
341 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:01:51
What a bellend. Classless, but we knew that already. This is just a jibe to wind us up. Personally, I find it funny and pitiful.
Sean O'Brien
344 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:32:31
I find all this so amusing. Just to think that gobs***es lasting legacy for the sh**e will be that he was the captain when the balance of power finally turned back to blue. Obviously saying all this crap trying to paper over whart are rapidly widening issues at the club.
I have to admit that I have been saying for the past three years that they were the worst Liverpool team I have seen in my 40 years of watching football and yet they keep on coming back season after season and proving me wrong.
Long may the decline last.
Tony J Williams
345 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:21:45
It's just his gobshitey defence mechanism due to him making a prick of himself with his 60 yard dash and slide whilst we are still playing.

I'm loving it

Eugene Ruane
346 Posted 30/10/2012 at 14:54:44
It is FANTASTIC that Stevie G is so narked and I believe it's a good indicator of just how far they have fallen.

I absolutely fucking LOVE reading anything along the lines of "We're better than Everton" or "We deserved to win" or "They played like Stoke".

Remember, it was not too long ago that we were a 'small team' and "United is now our derby' etc blah.

Well they're now so far from winning a title, that WE finish above them.

Everton ffs!

Basically all this Gerrard stuff is nothing but good old-fashioned, childish, frustrated venting.

He knows we've had to watch every penny and they have spent like drunken sailors over the past 10 years.

And for what - For them to finish below...us?

No wonder he's fuming (and don't forget, we played some shite football last year).

It is also imo wonderful that Liverpool FC these days, is basically everything Bill Shankly was against.

This is Anfield?

Er...I don't think it is.

I think it is NOT a hot-bed of local Liverpool support anymore, but a place for football tourists to go to get a few snaps (saw some of their Europa game on telly last week, every time they got a throw-in, you saw 23 girls from Singapore get their mobiles out).

Also (well done Sourpuss!) the hidden secrets of the boot-room are gone, only to be replaced by one of the most toe-curling, cringe-worthy 'documentaries' ever seen.

Add to that players who cheat and support a PROVEN racist.

Plus revisionist 'supporters' who only see in their history what suits them and are blind to whatever doesn't - I personally can't get enough of it.

Shooting themselves in the foot, on and off the pitch, has it appears now become routine

Remember, when you can't affect teams and are no threat to them, you get the patronising pat on the head.

As soon as you start to ruffle their feathers, you get the narked responses of the type we've had this season from 'Stevie G lar' and Sir Alex Whisky-Nose.

Believe me, as long as 'Stevie G lar' is upset with Everton, we're doing something right.

Jason Heng
347 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:39:53
The number of teenagers they had on the pitch is such a refreshing reminder of ho much DM has achieved in assembling a competitive squad with little spare cash.
Jason Heng
348 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:39:53
The number of teenagers they had on the pitch is such a refreshing reminder of ho much DM has achieved in assembling a competitive squad with little spare cash.
Mike Green
350 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:34:01
Correct Jim 341 - it's clearly a wind up.

The bottom line is they know we're a better side, had we had Gibson and Pienaar and a match fit Fellaini on the pitch I think we would've walked all over them to be honest.

This is just a cheap attempt to take the focus away from their display and get people to question why were doing so well this season, rather than why they're doing so badly.

The sad thing is you'll now have clueless fans up and down the country who'll chuck out "they're just another Stoke City" as a soundbite over a pint to make out they know what they're talking about, thats what's sad.

Good news is I was watching him on Sunday and I could only think his star is finally falling, two more seasons and he'll add nothing constructive to that team and then where will they be.

Goodbye Stevie G.

Mike Green
351 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:47:19
Tony #345 - my eyesights going, I was sat on the corner of the Main Stand and Park End thinking "look at that twat" as a Liverpool player legged the length of the pitch and slid on their kneees in front of their fans. I didnt realise it was Gerrard! Makes complete sense now though. Hilarious :D What a tool!

Apart from that - everything Eugene Ruane said in 346 - spot on.

Tom Bowers
352 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:54:23
The sour grapes is so typical from this miserable sod. Did he not say anything about Ratboy's strafing of Mirallas's ankle and the same ploy on Distin and yet the idiot stayed on the pitch? That's the luck they have. The Rodgers tactics were clear at that point after we pegged them back: stop them at all costs, hence he went with 5 across the back at halftime bringing in another South American hatchet man-Coates.

My only concern was Everton getting done for retaliation when Allen was constantly niggling Fella and Fella was getting angry himself.

If that 93rd minute goal had stood it would have been the most undeserved winner in derby match history and they've had many of those. Justice prevailed however and Ratboy had the smile wiped of his teeth.

So, Stevie grapes, you have nothing to gripe about.
Brent Stephens
353 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:00:43
I killed myself laughing when SG (right in front of us in Bullen Road) suddenly realised his long sprint up the pitch was in vain! Is there any clip of this anywhere?
James Morgan
354 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:00:10
This is the topic on talk sport now folks.
Dave Charles
355 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:54:49
He's carrying on a tradition started by Shankly and carried on by Dalglish (parts 1&2), Evans and Benetez. We should lay down and let them walk all over us, that's what they want. They're victims again because a team stood up to them or they're victims of the referees blah blah fucking blah.

Moyes is good with words and I hope he responds to the mouthy twat, if he doesn't fancy it, ask Joe Royle.

They're getting worse.

Brent Stephens
356 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:05:24
SG - "Everton not better than us" - being requoted on talksport. Note he no longer claims they are better than us!
Brent Stephens
357 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:13:11
Dave #355 I agree. This is now the time for Royle etc (not Moyes) to get under their skin by throwing the stats and league position back at them.
Karl Masters
359 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:16:58
Why is anybody interested in what he has to say anyway?
Mike Powell
360 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:10:02
Gerrard forgot to mention that the goofy one should've been sent off not once but twice and that little rat Sterling should also have been sent off... and that Coates (or whatever his name is) was offside when he headed the ball to the carrot muncher...

But how good was it to watch the clown run full length off the pitch dive to his knees to celebrate a disallowed goal in front off the Red Shite tools? Priceless.
Barry Rathbone
362 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:14:34
I'd be much happier if someone from the club took up the cudgels (are you listening Moyes) and got stuck right into Gerrard and the whole vipers nest that is LFC.

We did the right thing by Hillsboro but this is football and it's high time we stood up for ourselves and dished it back.

Just look at the reactions on here and other forums, come on Everton show some balls for a change.

Tony J Williams
363 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:11:32
"Is there any clip of this anywhere?" - God I hope so Brent. There are stills on Facebook with the quote. "That feeling you get when you have run 60 yards celebrating for absolutely fucking nothing!" brilliant
Patrick Murphy
367 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:26:30
Being Liverpool : - Starring Captain Outrageous and his Overlord NoBucks Rodgers if you want a good colour picture of Stevie G in training and Brenda revising his tactics search the web for 'Buck Rogers' on wikipedia scroll down to characters and then to comic. You should be able to see the pictures on the right hand side.

I'm sorry I don't know how to include links or photos in this thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Rogers

James Morgan
368 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:20:22
Fair play to Collymore, saying we are no more long ball than a United. Also saying Mirallas performance was arguably the best wing play in the prem for 3 or 4 years.
Iain Love
371 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:48:07
I try not to be biased against certain players but Stevie Geeeeeeeeee reckons Everton are a long ball team like Stoke...

Indeed, a statistical breakdown of the match shows that Everton managed 359 accurate passes to Liverpool's 257 and produced twice as many crosses (34 to 17), most of them low, driven balls from the left by Mirallas or Baines. They also had more possession, more chances and committed less fouls.

Cock.
Aidan Wade
372 Posted 30/10/2012 at 15:45:02
I'm glad to see pundits debunking the comments, too many journos are too happy to print the comments of "big names" without critical analysis.
John Dubay
373 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:50:58
Millions, either at the matches or watching live on Sky, have been to Specsavers and know what a great footballing side we are and Gerrard has made himself look the hateful loathsome twat that he is, That blinkered arrogant moron Phil Thompson will do the same this weekend.
Steve Guy
374 Posted 30/10/2012 at 16:41:54
For years the derby ways, according to their supporters, EFC's cup final and for many of those years they were probably right to be honest. However Moyes has now assembled a footballing side which is probably his best so far. We are now on an upward curve and the RS have stalled for the umpteenth time in recent years. No doubt they will come again but the Derby is increasingly becoming their Cup Final not ours; I was just annoyed we started badly and dropped points. Even at 2-0 down I actually wasn't worried; the goals were down to poor defending not "the only team playing football".

Stevie Me Laa should have left when he had the chance and is now regretting it big time. He is now playing with a team consisting of average players and cheats. Shame :-)

Kieran Fitzgerald
375 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:02:41
Theres an article in today's Irish Independent about this. It contradict's Gerrard's statement with the same stats. It ends by stating that while Moyes and Pip have apologised for his dive, it is interesting to see that Liverpool have yet to apologise for Suarez's stamp and for raking his studs down Distan's leg.
Nelly Verdonghan
376 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:07:38
Steven Gerrard.....what a classless buffoon !!

mind you what do you expect from such a prick.....full of his own self importance....don't forget he was also fully behind Sewerez during his "I'm Not a Racist" campaign

No wonder the rest of the country fuckin hate the horrible RS wankers

John Dubay
377 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:09:01
Kieran 375, Too right, The only one who won't be contradicting it will be, like I said, Phil "Harpoon" Thompson.
Steve Carse
379 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:17:14
Gerrard's outburst reminds me of the mid-80s. Before we started winning everything the Kopites were patronising and condescending towards us, pats on the head for trying hard etc etc. But then as soon as we got ahead of them they went totally bitter and full of bile. Couldn't take it. Bitter reds indeed.
William Gall
380 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:10:41
Well, I suppose being captain of a now middle-of-the-table rated team SG thinks he can slag off other teams.

The thing I have a problem with is him criticizing Everton's captain saying he should set an example and his booking for alleged diving let the team down. True to his character, PN accepted the booking and criticism.

But what I don't like is the captain of England saying PN let the club down after SG LET THE COUNTRY DOWN after receiving a red card in a recent international. People should not throw stones in a glass building.
Tim Welsh
382 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:24:15
It is very encouraging to hear comments like this from their captain, it signifies that the club are – yet again – in denial. This is all part of their very slow demise that started in 1990.

To tie this in with another TW forum about BBC bias, it is the combination of over-weaning press coverage and their own lack of a sense of reality which perpetuates their slide towards a Leeds-like destiny.

Very disappointed with Rodgers, who I thought had more class.
Just shows how wrong you can be.


Oh...and if we play like Stoke City then the RS play like Lincoln City.

Ben Dyke
384 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:31:25
What rankles when you have twits like him speaking to the press like this is that he actually cannot see how hypocritical he is. He has a go at Moyes for claiming Suarez dives (he does!) then he says we play long ball (we don't) and thinks thats OK. He moans about Suarez not being offside (he wasnt) but forgets the fact he shouldnt be on the pitch for the dirty fouls on Mirallas and Distin (he shouldnt have been).

I know I shouldnt expect better from a Red like him and the reds in my family but they actually think Stevie G talks sense. I cant wait until we batter them at some point and Stevie G gets clattered.

Jack Johnson
386 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:51:24
Everything associated with that horrible club across the park is shameful. I expect nothing less.
Brent Stephens
387 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:56:02
Ben, good post but I think you've misspelt "twits"?
Ben Dyke
388 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:04:15
Lol Brent! It was the polite version for the benefit of my kids! But yes!
Paul Rimmer
389 Posted 30/10/2012 at 17:50:39
Liverpool played more like Stoke. Their only real threat is from set pieces - the difference being that Stoke don't dive to get them.
Graham Mockford
390 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:06:44
For all his deluded ranting he has managed something very few have ever achieved. He has united the Toffeeweb community that he is a bell end of the highest order.

The funniest bit for me was watching him sprint 50 yards, full knee slide in front of the RS only to realise the goal was disallowed and in fact Leighton was bombing down the wing towards him. Money can't buy such moments.

Paul Smith
392 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:30:31
Has anybody got a link to the Stevie me la`s 60 yd dash, I missed it on Sunday, priceless footage.
Nick Armitage
394 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:44:11
Thanks Stevie, you have just confirmed to the nation what we Evertonians have known for years.

Bad bad bellend.

Simon Harris
395 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:47:32
Our performance and Moyes's pre and post match comments have clearly rattled Gerrard. Great init !

Graham beat me to it, but his Forrest Gump run after the disallowed goal was hilarious, pity I can't find any video links to relive it.

Paul Gladwell
397 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:50:26
Nice to see talk sport having this as the tea time debate and ripping him to bits, just adds more fuel to the nation hating them and liking us, £168m they have spent since Benitez left we have made a £12m profit and that dies not include the millions they have spent on new managers too.
Ged Simpson
398 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:49:42
My only reaction to this unveling of the stupidity of Stevie G is:
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Oh it is funny.

Ged Simpson
399 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:55:50
Also - this is v funny on Kipper

http://www.bluekipper.com/funnies/73-blubber/5376-gerrard_sees_the_error_of_his_ways/images/6545.html

Shane Corcoran
400 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:55:34
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/everton-played-much-like-stoke-steven-gerrard-3277561.html

Here's the link Kieran referred to above.

Jon Cox
402 Posted 30/10/2012 at 18:01:11
Here's the way it works. When a supervisor at work gets it in the neck from his wife at home he generally takes it out on the guys at work er, because he can. There is much vitriol and the people involved can't do diddly squat to argue.

I think not only did Stevie (God I wish I could have been a brilliant rock guitarist) Geraldo became aware that his footballing days were numbered, but for Evertonians it didn't help matters that he walked in on the Mrs having a laugh and a joke with the gardener. And get this my mate has delivered shite to this guys house for Tesco, and he's been caught by St Gerrard havin a laugh with his Mrs.

To describe Gerrard from what I hear, I need an episode of Father Ted.

It's the one where a little tart is on telly being fantastic to all the grannies and Mrs Doyle wins a poetry comp and this little shit comes round to father Teds house and is a complete and utter cumquat i.e. a nasty little shite. This is Gerrard. A nasty little child who cant understand that he's never going to win the title or anything elses for that matter.

But for me, Gerrard is way down the list of disgusting people who have commented in the meeja this weekend. Funny enough they've all been people who have worked for TalkSpurs. The main twat being Medicine ball head Brazil. What a complete and utter cunt this guy has been. Just to put the record straight, Alan, climbing all over a player to gain an advantage commonly known as "taking a ride" then the "Teeth from Hell's" goal should've been disallowed from this act alone. Since you never mentioned this all day on your show tells all Evertonians that you are a womans' genitialia. You disgust me, Brazil. You should, by deedpoll change your name because it defiles the team called Brazil.

Liverpool were Shite on Sunday and the sick media know it. I don't see the meeja talking about Liverpool in terms of racism. Why's that then, memory of a goldfish, or what?

What we need is the honest football fan to start attacking the media. If we don't we'll not have a football competition to talk about. Chelsea. Stand by for all refs to go on strike. It will happen.

I don't like anything that says someone is shite because of the colour of his or her skin. But I hate even more when people will use the colour of his or her skin to win favour. Sorry, but this is the UK and we, and we alone and not politicians or quangos will decide at the end of the day whats right and whats wrong.

I don't know if this will get to the media, I hope it does. But people like BBC and TalkSport, be aware, with the advent of the internet, you are becoming superfluous TO REQUIREMENTS....../

Clive Lewis
403 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:15:38
Its sad Gerrard is like a moaning geriatric, be gracefull in your old footballing age will you , maybe the footballing dementia is creeping in or the inevitable depression, anyway this delusional accusation is not going to change the inevitable. We are better than Liverpool! We was last season and we currently are this season, Sour grapes The redshite seem to be finding it hard to adjust to being awfull. Gerrard, the honeymoon is over you going to go down in history as a nobody.
Kunal Desai
404 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:15:43
What rabble of shitbag this tosspot is. How many leagues titles have you won Stevie boy and how many has your club won in the last 25 years a side from one european cup and that on pens??....old age must be getting to him, just like his football.
Clive Lewis
405 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:22:41
He ran 80 yards...
He ran 80 yards...
Steven Gerrard,
He ran 80 yards!
Jon Cox
406 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:26:57
Kunai, spot on pal. What an infantile Gerrard is.
Mike Green
409 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:37:41
Nice Clive! #405 Lets get that one ringing around Anfield on the return leg! :)
Terry Myers
410 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:46:09
What a jealous twat Gerrard is! Just because he had no influence on the game and he's on the wane. He comes out with shit like that.
Jon Cox
411 Posted 30/10/2012 at 19:49:11
Mike Green, sorry mate, let's get the chant, Liverpool are shite. Or Liverpool are cheats. But #405 is rubbish....
Anthony Lewis
414 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:33:07
One of the funniest things ever. He comes out with a quote like that then gets bum fucked by the damning stats that only go to prove him completely and utterly wrong!

Only problem is, like has been mentioned above, there will be some idiots actually believing this and requoting it as fact.

James Martin
415 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:39:34
Don't usually go on other teams' sites but thought I'd look at what the Stoke faithful had made of Gerrard dragging their club into the post-match bickering. Seems that we're not as biased as we thought we were, everyone else really does hate them nearly as much as we do and more than anything wish they'd shut their delusional traps for 5 seconds of the day.

Also good to see we are well regarded by the fans of a club who have no axe to grind either way:

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=201710&page=2
Paul Smith
416 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:34:54
Just seen knashers on Autumn Watch, chewing through a bit of wood.
Andrew Yates
417 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:43:53
Ha haahahhaahahahaahahahhah!! Just seen the article. I love this, I really do.

Imagine what they'd be saying if Pip had compared them to Stoke, we'd probably receive an FA fine and have to be docked a point!!

It really does prove that these fat headed nob jockeys just see what they want to see, don't consider/understand what they are saying and live in this little bubble of shite which swills around them like a burst sewerage compound spewing crap all over their rat arsed little mucus faces!!!

must stop typing........

Brent Stephens
419 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:47:43
James, thanks for the link to the Stoke forum. What's interesting about that is that the stoke fans don't just have a pop at SG and RS but come out talking us up not just defending their own team. Speaks volumes about where we've got to. Respect.
Brendan McLaughlin
421 Posted 30/10/2012 at 21:20:08
Know they changed sponsor but can't resist:
"Steven Gerrard normally doesn't do disallowed goal celebrations but if he did it probably would be the best in the world" It was for me. Fecking knobhead can't do his talking on the pitch anymore and tries to do it post-match.
Ian Bennett
422 Posted 30/10/2012 at 21:28:18
Gerrard would be better advised to worry about how he played rather than phil Neville. My red supporting dad's first comment at watching gerrard live for a long, long time, was 'Christ he's finished, how long have we got him for'. His influence has diminished, and those long driving runs are nearly non existent. I appreciate he flighted in the 2nd goal, but overall he was average IMHO.

His comments on phil Neville, are also laughable given his own diving around on the field (us, Sheffield united,, arsenal, Milan), type it in and google gives you a 6 inch list of his diving.

Jon Cox
424 Posted 30/10/2012 at 21:58:57
Andrew Yates 417 Brilliant shit mate but thats enough about the MEEJA
Jon Cox
425 Posted 30/10/2012 at 22:04:04
Brendan, 421 Have we got a new narrative here, i.e. Rio, Stevie, et al. We're all getting old and there's not much left we can do, but open our mouths and make people remember us.......
Kevin Tully
426 Posted 30/10/2012 at 22:08:45
It is incredible Gerrard can bring up the subject of diving, with all the video evidence out there I would keep my trap firmly shut.

That club is fast becoming a laughing stock, with David Brent for a manager, the Director of Communications threatening their own fans, and Suarez is the most hated man in the P.L. They also let their £35m donkey go out on loan when the twats can't score ! You couldn't make it up.

They also brought the king back to blow £120m - superb.

Liverpool can't handle the fact they are a mid-table side with declining support, a few more years of mamaged decline with these Yanks on board will do nicely.

What's up Stevie G laaar, this year not going to be your's to win the League ?

Phil Roberts
429 Posted 30/10/2012 at 22:38:54
I would have thought it was obvious to all of us by now, that given the events of July 2009, the words "facts and truth" are never part of any attempt by Steven Gerrard to tell what really happened.

And if I was Tony Pulis, I would be really pleased by this comment to compare his team with the fluid passing team that are Everton. He must be a very happy man. (and hopefully telling his players to kick him off the park next time they meet).

Patrick Murphy
430 Posted 30/10/2012 at 22:44:06
I see that Sylvain Distin is getting some dogs abuse by the loveable reds on his twitter account. This type of behaviour and SG's stupid comments can only add to our team being even more determined to stay in touch at the top end of the table.

With a little luck we might just do that.

Talking about luck Arsenal were dead and buried at Reading being 4-0 down, but somehow they managed to claw it back and go onto win 7-5 after extra-time.


Jamie Barlow
435 Posted 30/10/2012 at 23:22:59
Jagielka hits back at Liverpool FC captain Steven Gerrard for Stoke City comparisons


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/liverpool-fc/2012/10/30/55578-32133523/?

Roberto Birquet
436 Posted 30/10/2012 at 23:36:17
Mark Tanton has it
he's past 30 and knows he'll never win the League. His team started behind Utd and Arsenal, then came the money for Chelski and Citeh, while Spurs, and now Everton are eclipsing his team.

Bitter Reds. I think this is their Cup Final now.

And complaining about an Everton player diving. Laughable, it's quite sad. Let him be hanged by his own words; the football world is looking down on him.

Phil Bellis
437 Posted 30/10/2012 at 23:51:50
Lishen, larr, I useda play for lidpool right? tellyernow lar, efton nob erra dan ush

Mr Gerrard
You're becoming the pub drunk ..give it up son, retain a modicum of dignity (larr)

Si Cooper
438 Posted 30/10/2012 at 23:14:02
Rantings of a player frustrated by the passing of his own influence and his team's local pre-eminence.

Some fools will lap it up though. Already seen posts that define crosses as 'direct' play (and in some way crude) to bolster the 'accuracy' of his comments.

As far as the stats go, I am willing to bet that those for the first 70 minutes show an even wider gulf between the teams, with them closing the gap in the last 20 when the effort of getting back into the game took its toll on the older legs in our smaller squad.

Phil Bellis
439 Posted 31/10/2012 at 00:07:55
I don't think I've ever seen more neutral comments shooting down an opponent's biased opionions as this; from the Daily Post to the Daily Mail via the Karachi Recorder
Worryingly for the deludes, while Stevie G, for the first time. feels the need to slag off EFC, Man Utd fans appear unconcerned about LFC, addressing their invective towards City, now
Paul Holden
440 Posted 31/10/2012 at 00:18:25
Can't wait for next season's derbies - Tranmere v the shyte!
Andrew Gilbert
444 Posted 31/10/2012 at 00:26:28
The 60 yard dash was the highlight of the game for me, still laughing.
Chris James
446 Posted 31/10/2012 at 00:54:27
I believe the word you're looking for Stevie is 'pwned' - you have been lad, well and truly! ;-)
Steve Green
449 Posted 31/10/2012 at 01:46:21
You spend years thinking Gerrard is a self-obsessed knobhead, you hope against hope that your opinion is true... Then, at last, no need to worry: the goon just opens his mouth and confirms it all, ha, ha.

And I've seen statistics that prove West Lancashire DJ's play some good music as well..........
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
450 Posted 31/10/2012 at 03:54:53
Errr... 'pwned' — is that a word? Or do you mean 'owned'?

Just askin'...

Tom Dodds
458 Posted 31/10/2012 at 05:27:01
.....And, last but not least, I can't wait till they play Stoke again ... Hahahah!!!!!
David Hallwood
477 Posted 31/10/2012 at 09:53:51
Thanks to James Martin(#415) for the Stoke City fan site. Here's a taster

"Come on lads, give him a break. He’s just made himself look a complete arse on National TV. Whilst he was running 80 yards and sliding on his knees in front of his own fans, Everton were busy breaking at the other end of the pitch. The daft cunt.

He’s probably made himself look even dafter with these remarks in all fairness, and anyone with a couple of brain cells will pick his comments apart.
He’s slating Everton, who currently sit 5th and have had a great start to the Season, much better than Liverpool’s season so far. He labels them a long ball team when the stats show that Liverpool played more long balls.

He then goes onto criticise an opposition player for diving, when one of his own team mates, Mr Cauliflower Arse himself – Luis Suarez – is the worst culprit of all.

Gerrard is on a downward slope and he’ll be done sooner rather than later. He’s just clutching to a final straw and he’s coming across as an idiot (the influence of Mr Rodgers?) and a desperate fool."

Back o' the net! LOL

Brian Kendrick
501 Posted 31/10/2012 at 12:20:11
I feel Gerrard's comments towards Everton are completely disrespectful. He is the captain of his club and so should show more decorum. We, both the club and the supporters are expected to show respect to all the high profile media attention to the Hillsborough tragedy where I believe we behaved impeccably considering the pressure we are under and how we are scrutinized by the media and at times Liverpool Football Club.

The two points I want to make in my comment is first of all Gerrard wants to check the match statistics on accurate passes and overall possession.

Secondly, I admire Phil Jagielka for being extremely diplomatic and not being drawn into twitter twatter. Personally, I would have just told him to fuck off!

Brian Kendrick
504 Posted 31/10/2012 at 12:20:11
I feel Gerrard's comments towards Everton are completely disrespectful. He is the captain of his club and so should show more decorum. We, both the club and the supporters are expected to show respect to all the high profile media attention to the Hillsborough tragedy which I believe we behave impeccably considering the pressure we are under and how we are scrutinized by the media and at times LIverpool Football Club.

The two points I want to make in my comment is first of all Gerrard wants to check the match statistics on accurate passes and overall possession.

Secondly, I admire Phil Jagielka for being extremely diplomatic and not being drawn into twitter twatter. Personally, I would have just told him to fuck off!

Dave Roberts
526 Posted 31/10/2012 at 15:52:20
Your last sentence does it for me Brian!
Roman Sidey
549 Posted 31/10/2012 at 06:03:16
I watched the game with some family friends, who are Red Shite fans, for the first time, and it occured that a lot of their lot are oblivious to the past fuck-ups by refs in this derby, and the many ways Liverpool have bent Everton over in the past (80s Euro ban, 05 Champs League). So it was nice to finally have a smirk as I left after the disallowed goal.

Gerrard's comments don't anger or frustrate me. They please me, as it makes him appear even more like a sour twat. But his comments do make it even more imperative that we go to Anfield later in the season and batter them into the ground.

Colin Wainwright
551 Posted 31/10/2012 at 20:04:28
Amen Roman. We just need to beat them beyond all recognition. No excuses.
Gavin Ramejkis
555 Posted 31/10/2012 at 20:50:47
Swansea are all over them tonight, wonder what creasehead's excuse will be in the morning?
Shane Corcoran
556 Posted 31/10/2012 at 20:51:03
According to the BBC, there's only one team trying to play football at Anfield tonight.
Shane Corcoran
558 Posted 31/10/2012 at 20:51:48
Ha Gavin, all of 16 seconds apart.
Lewis Barclay
564 Posted 31/10/2012 at 21:23:10
Gerrard, he's been raising the bar at underachieving for his country for years and now seems to be raising the bar at talking absolute shite. I suspect raising bars is better than getting banned from them.

I don't mind a bit of banter, even some ridiculous suggestions - but talking utter bollocks - that's not on.

Next he'll be telling us Donkey chops should be up for a fair play award.

Matt Traynor
565 Posted 31/10/2012 at 21:59:29
No doubt he'll be in the papers tomorrow slagging Swansea off for being a long ball team.

Wonder if Rodgers will try to take credit for Swansea's football?

Gavin Ramejkis
566 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:02:16
Wouldn't put it past him Matt funnily the team built by Martinez and he took Joe Allen with him, hilarious after match comments that he now knows Jordan Henderson isn't a right back - thats priceless
Mike Hughes
568 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:04:13
BREAKING NEWS - Brendon Rogers, Stevie G Lar, King Kenny, Cilla Black, Jimmy Tarbuck, Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Robbie Fowler, John Barnes, Rafa Benitez, Fred n Rose West, Nick Barmby, Brady and Hindley, Jimmy "Shithouse" Case, badge man......your boys just took one hell of a beating.

RS lost, Radio Merseyside phone-in, glass of red......priceless.

Clive Lewis
569 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:15:19
What about this then:


He ran 80 yards,
he ran 80 yards,
Gerrard the knobhead,
he ran 80 yards.
Ian Smitham
572 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:21:21
Mike, a bit wasted on here as I can not replicate the monotone of the bloke, but the person I am happiest for is that announcer at Anfield, the bloke who snorts, "And the scorer of the first goal for Liverpool is..."

Simon Temme
576 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:40:00
Revisionist

Egotistical

Delusional

Sycophantic

Hilarious

Idiotic

Tragic

Extinct

Clive Lewis
577 Posted 31/10/2012 at 22:46:29
I know the members of Rodgers envelope Gerrard. Suarez and Rodgers.
Patrick Murphy
579 Posted 01/11/2012 at 00:03:27
Brenda quote from BBC ceefax :

"We have a very very small squad. A very thin squad"

Moyes' must be a genius!!!

Mike Green
581 Posted 01/11/2012 at 00:42:17
Very good Simon Temme. 576. I particularly like the R, very true.

Patrick 579 - I might be going crackers but I'm sure Rodgers was bemoaning the fact they'd had no money to spend a little while ago too?

Eddie Fazal
584 Posted 01/11/2012 at 02:50:05
Oh dear! What on earth will Stevie moan about tonight?

By the way... does anyone have a Liverpool 1990 shirt I could borrow? — I'm going to a Halloween Fancy Dress party at the weekend and I thought I'd go as the Ghost of Liverpool past!!

Richard Harris
588 Posted 01/11/2012 at 04:26:30
How about next year going as the Ghost of Liverpool future? That will be a tailcoat with a couple of arms in a Liverpool shirt hanging on to the coat tails...
Roman Sidey
609 Posted 01/11/2012 at 09:03:26
If Swansea can win at Anfield...
Eugene Ruane
614 Posted 01/11/2012 at 10:01:55
Their future?

If their delusions continue?

Well, I see the kop, I see the banners, but it just not on the same....scale.

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/afcl/july/afcl19070825.jpg

Ray Roche
616 Posted 01/11/2012 at 10:07:37
"If Swansea can win at Anfield"....and?
Mike Keating
645 Posted 01/11/2012 at 12:30:51
I think Stevie G must have been likening the Blues to Stoke teams of the past which included players such as Roy Vernon, Paul Bracewell, Adrian Heath, Alan Hudson, Denis Violett, Geoff Hurst and Sir Stanley Matthews. He can only dream of lacing their boots.

And Swansea are the new Wimbledon!
Mike Keating
663 Posted 01/11/2012 at 14:29:15
Graham Mockford @ 390
I think you are being very disrespectful to bell ends at home and abroad.
If I thought mine bore any resemblance to Gerrard, I'd chop it off. However, should enoblement for services to football come his way perhaps he should become Lord Stephen of this place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_End
Leo Foster
665 Posted 01/11/2012 at 14:46:52
Gerrard lied on oath as the accused in Crown Court: he'd say anything to protect himself.
Ciarán McGlone
666 Posted 01/11/2012 at 14:50:10
Leo,

I hope for your - and the sake of this site - that anyone connected with him does not read what you've just published..

Ian Lloyd
675 Posted 01/11/2012 at 15:55:46
Some interesting facts for us Blues

Everton Record Last 33 Games

Played: 33
Won: 14
Drew: 15
Lost 4

Available points for 33 Games: 99
Actual Points Won: 57
Actual Points Lost: 12 points (4 games)
Actual Total Points Dropped: 30 points (4 games lost including 15 draws)

Need to start finsihing teams off - drawing too many games....but not bad return

Now THE SHITE Record Last 33 Games

Played: 33
Won: 10
Drew: 9
Lost 14

Available points for 33 Games: 99
Actual Points Won: 30
Actual Points Lost: 42 points (14 games)
Actual Total Points Dropped: 60 points (14 games lost including 9 draws)

Haha all this and they spent £130 million alone last year. 27 points behind the super blues;

Peter Barry
761 Posted 02/11/2012 at 13:24:59
I am not sure if I saw this on here or somewhere else but its so funny that I make no apology for repeating it.

" I met a Genie the other day and he told me he still had one wish left to grant. 'I want to live forever' I said, 'sorry' said the Genie 'the Magic Union has banned us from granting those type of wishes' – 'Oh Well! I said 'then I want to live until Liverpool win the Premier League' – 'Crafty Cunt' said the Genie.

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