Season 2012-13
Everton News
Man Utd looking for revenge?
Phil Jagielka says Everton must be wary of a vengeful Manchester United on Sunday — but can take inspiration from last year's 4-4 thriller.
“They've kicked on a gear and there's a lot of incentives for them now to try and stay at the top and prove a point after we beat them in September, and then of course the points they dropped last season possibly costing them the championship.
“It won't be easy going to Old Trafford. We've not picked up too many victories there over the years so I don't think we'll be favourites by a long shot.
“But hopefully we get everyone back fit and well from the international games, and we can go there confident and draw some inspiration from last time.”
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With a week's rest and a nearly fully fit first team, no reason not to be confident of going for (and getting) the win: Victory is what the team should be focused on, let them worry about us. Baines, Fellaini, Mirallas, Jelly (coming back to form, now is the time :-)), Gibson, Pienaar etc, let's get right into 'em for 97 minutes.
We have a first eleven when all are fit (unlike this week) and a hotch potch of players who make up the numbers on the bench. They can bring on at least two fresh strikers and a couple of wide men to supply ammunition.
They have scored late goals lots of times this season when other teams are tiring by changing a striker (or two)... The bench/subs system favours the richer clubs who have big squads.
They buy players to sit on their benches so that they cannot play for another side.
It should be one of those games where we can play with freedom, but I doubt it somehow.
The simple fact is, we have to beat at least two of the usual suspects to have any hope of finishing 4th.
Just once, I wish one of our players would say, "Fuck that lot, we're gonna tonk 'em!", rather that this 'respectful' crap they come out with every week regardless of who we play.
This would be a perfect time to start a decent run to really chase down fourth or even third spot and the return of Gibson and Mirallas might just be good timing and also Osman getting in a big game.
How many times have we done the double this season?? ZERO. Missed chances to do the double in winnable games vs Swansea, Soton and Villa. We now only have 4 more attempts this season to gain the double over someone and that includes Man Utd and Spurs away and Sunderland away and West Ham home.
My point is, you need to have 5 or 6 doubles minimum to have a chance of top 4. I certainly don't think Old Trafford away will be our first double of the season.
We have got 4 points out of 6 in the last two games against them by doing just that. More of the same please.
Over 20 years without a victory at Old Trafford is a disgrace. Even more so considering our outstanding record there between 1984-1992 when we won so often and lost very little and were Man Utd's bogey team in that period.
We've nothing lose Sunday. Go for the throat.
Well I can't see us attacking in great numbers but we appear to be very difficult to beat. Howard should be OK because they will not give him time to think.
With their young goalie just as dodgy as Howard on corners and crosses perhaps we'll try to exploit this. The one thing we must not do is drop deep and leave no outlet when the ball is cleared.
Can some one tell me when we last had a victory at OT?It was in the last century was it not?
1 - 0 to us and Jelly to score, reckon Moyes will have him on from the start with the big fella up front Gibbo and Mirallas in the middle. Osman needs a rest.
This is all to say that I do not expect us to lose this game if we put out an attack minded line up and push up and go for it. My nightmare is a packed midfield with Neville at Gibbo's side. if we play that line up we will the game.
(Note to self: don't make predictions they get Hudson ranting and raving, and if I am proved wrong on Skip Pip and Gibbo the sunny gloating will be of staggering proportions that will bring Thatcher to mind when she was at Portsmouth to buy the club I mean salute the returning mighty battle fleet after we crushed the Argies).
Forgive me, a little more time and space, just seen the ENNGGEERRLAANNDDD team to play Brazil. No Jags, no Bainesy, no Osman. I don't give a shit about Engerland but really, I know Jags is not always up to scratch, but in a world where Enggaurlaand have so few centre defences options, Smalling FFS? Silly. What about ugly Rio to play Brazil, seems poetic at least? Osman, I understand. Bainsey, hard luck coz Cashley needs his century.
Hudson, my prediction: Ingaland 1 Braaazilll 3.
Why do I do this? 'What kind of fool am I'? Let loose the Hudsons of war.
Out last victory at Old Trafford was 19 August 1992 a 3 - 0 win. Goals by Beardsley, Johnston and Warzycha. Highlights can be found on YouTube.
At OT that night, we saw the dark side, was it 7 reds stabbed, and one, who was on dodgy Stuart Hall's northwest news shows a day later, had EFC scratched on his back. There must have been in pre-seat days 8,000 blue-boys there in the old Warwick Road.
Good days and bad days.
Nice prediction on England/Brazil, too. What a knowledgable observer you are.
And aren't you the idiot who so cheerfully predicted on another thread that Mirallas and Gibson would miss most of the rest of the season with injuries? That's right, folks, this fraudulent Evertonian is gleefully certain that two players who are currently fit will be seriously injured. Won't play 14 more games between them, he said.
What kind of fool are you? Let me count the ways. Let me write the encyclopedia of your relentlessly negative foolishness. You are the unquestioned Maharajah of Morons, the High Holy Imam of Idiocy, the Regent of Retardation. And when it comes to your eagerness to see our players carried off the pitch, you are the Royal Shah of Shit.
But apart from that.......................
As I said on another thread, they don't like it up em. So we need a high energy performance against Ferdinand and Evans (I hope vidic is out), and we need to battle the centre midfield against carrick and a n other. If we can win the battle in those areas we have a chance. This is going to be key, as with Rooney, Rvp, welbeck and Hernandez we'll struggle to keep them out, at our end in front of an expecting OT crowd.
I look forward to the gnashing of teeth from sir Alex, rather than compliments post match.
I work with several man u 'fans', they all think this isn't a good man u side in comparison to previous man u sides. It is their potent attack that is making a difference for them, they are not amazing over the rest of the field, If we believe & take confidence from our previous two meetings, then it is possible, even with the obligatory 8 mins (or 'til they win!) fergie time. Lets see how brave Moyes tactics are for this one.
I wonder if Wayne turns up against us on Saturday? Since he made his peace with EFC a couple of seasons ago, he seems to have been below par against us. I know he scored twice in last season's 4-4, but It's as if there's a bit of him that feels uncomfortable trying to beat us. Or am I tempting fate?
Why do you feel the need to bring up my name in a thread I haven't commented on..?
Twice you've done this...Stop 'thinking,' about me!!
The less said about your 'prediction, ' the better..
You remind me of a tramp shouting at pigeons in the street, and your inner monologue makes about as much sense as a lemonade sandwich..!!
If someone is looking for revenge, it's us! Time to battle at Old Trafford, to improve the record there. COYB NSNO IMWT
You're right James, it's the natural progression for the RS players, it's almost part of their pension scheme.
Our record there has been pityful since.
James M @375, I agree that anytime soon we will see SAF lay down the referees ground rules for our game at the palace of wet dreams.
He can join Owen, McManaman, Souness, Barnes & the rest of the shite who work on the media gravy train. More I think about it, there are a hell of lot ex reds working in the media on tv & radio. You get sick of seeing them when they are playing & then you have to put up with them doing 'analysis' on your team.
You mention Owen, McManaman, Souness and Barnes as TV pundits. There's also Hansen and Lawrenson on MotD, whilst I've also endured McMahon, Nicol, MacAteer, even Houghton the other day. However it does seem to be a conveyor belt and they all have a vested interest in playing up the RS as a "big club". I doubt it will make the front page news when Tony H retires ...
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