Liverpool's Luis Suarez will miss the derby with Everton next month and a whole lot more games as the FA hand him a 10-match ban for biting Branislav Ivanovich at the weekend.
The Uruguayan forward has courted controversy throughout his time in England since arriving at Anfield from Ajax, where he served a seven-match ban for another biting incident.
This fresh ban will take the number of matches he has missed for Liverpool through suspension to 30 games and, as Evertonians know all too well from the Goodison derby, had the match officials or the FA done their job it could well have been more.
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419 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:00:59
422 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:06:23
423 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:04
424 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:19
425 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:59
426 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:09:04
427 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:16:23
429 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:09:59
He said 10 matches is too much, around eight would have been nearer the mark. Frequently see players punching and butting people (a veiled reference to Felli?) and they don't receive such bans.
Stand by for Suarez the victim spin and how the FA are all out to get him and his club. I think they will appeal and as I said earlier he may yet play in the Derby pending the outcome of his appeal.
430 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:18:08
What the fuck were they expecting?! The lousy bastards!
431 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:13:33
Half of me wants the sub-human thug, racist, diver, cheat, and biter to jump ship; the other half wants low-life to stay and continue to stain the shite, coz we all know that something will happen next season. All of me is fascinated by how the shite handle sewer-rat and continue to defend the scummiest player I have seen on an English footie pitch in my life-time. Looking forward to more reaction from the Anfield powers-that-be and scum-slug.
432 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:17:47
It might also be enough for him to think "I don't need this, I'm off...."
We'll have to wait and see....
434 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:29:44
Come on Ian, you said, the most important thing was to mend Luis, to get to the heart of his issues. Surely the 10-match rest will now give you time to do this. Come on fellas, put the machine on spin cycle like you did on Monday....
435 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:22:02
1. Let's go and play in the Spanish League.
2. Take the FA to court for corruption.
3. The Premier League will make sure their first 6 fixtures next season are against all the top sides.
4. Alex Ferguson has instructed them how long the ban should be.
5. It was the Daily Mail stirring thing up.
6. They were all Mancs on the panel who hate anything about the club, and they never want them to win anything again.
7. The FA are all a bunch of racist twats, who are trying to drive out Luis, because he is foreign. (They can't even see the irony of the last one!)
8. Stop any of their players representing England again.
These are just a few of the pearlers they are coming out with. I retract my last statement calling them self-pitying conspiracy theorists. I now believe most of them are mentally unstable.
436 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:34:47
Do pre-season friendlies count in the number of games someone misses if they are banned?
437 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:37:42
438 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:36:27
There's clearly a fascination with Suarez, though, so I must be in the minority of those uncomfortable with the sensationalisation of the whole thing.
439 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:40:13
440 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:40:20
441 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:39:00
442 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:43:24
443 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:42:10
That this demented idiot has been found guilty on both counts while being castigated as one of the most poisonous cheats in football troubles not their empty skulls.
Keelhaul him under one of the mersey ferries for good measure.
444 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:44:57
I've never seen any comments re the follow-up Rodwell sending-off so presume it's just me with this particular bee in my bonnet
When the card was rescinded as it was shown to be a fair challenge, Rodwell did not, in fact, kick Suarez in the goolies whilst aiming for his knee and the squeal of agony was just a reaction to a small grass burn
why was Suarez not disciplned by either the FA or that even more useless body, the PFA?
445 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:44:07
I thought on Sunday, as I happened to glance up from whatever else I was doing and saw this abominable character biting another player, that this was an unbelievable scenario playing out.
I don't see it is as sensationalism. This was an absolutely disgusting barbaric and criminally insane act to perpetuate on a football field. The number of comments on the original thread is a testament to how a significant number of Everton fans feel about it and rightly so, in my opinion.
446 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:45:32
The gods did us a great favour with the FA Cup draw this season and we blew it you've now got a big break re the derby, let's see if you can use it....
447 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:45:46
I think the fascination of us Blues is centred more on the response of the media and the fact that whoever Suarez played for many of us believe that he is by far the worst behaved player to have 'graced' the top flight of football. There have been many 'dirty' players in the game but not many that I can think of who go out to cheat in every single match that they play.
448 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:53:32
They wont be bothered at all about him missing the last 4 games as they've nothing left to play for this season. As for next season, the fact that the ban (I believe) includes cup games, he won't actually miss that many league games next year given rounds 2 & 3 of the league cup. In fact I think he'll only miss the first 4 league games next year, so will be back in the team beginning of Sept.
Ban should have been more like 15 games!! All he's gotten is just an extended holiday!
449 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:54:42
450 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:57:49
And I quote:
"We at the FA, have been waiting for months to get the dirty little weasel for his acts of vileness at Goodison, so today seemed as good a day as any to get him."
452 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:03:27
As Carragher has pointed out, why so much for this and not for a leg-breaking tackle?
454 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:05:16
Watch that replay again. As soon as he bites Ivanovic, he falls over, appeals for a penalty, gets up, smiles...doesn't look angry or out of control at all.
455 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:08:37
456 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:10:54
457 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:15:02
458 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:07:40
This is just the latest in a long line of disgraceful acts perpetrated by the most objectionable footballer I have ever had the misfortune to watch.
While the item posted after Sunday's game was red-top/Daily Mail-level sensationalism, in my opinion, it clearly gave people something and somewhere to talk about but, for me, that was sufficient for an Everton site.
459 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:18:34
Things like spitting and biting(!) do not have any place in the game, or in any sport or civilised society whatsoever. There is simply no excuse for this, especially when these guys are supposed to be role models for the kids. Should kids at school start 'doing a Suarez'?
Carragher is a knob if he can't see any difference between a reckless tackle and actually fucking biting someone!
460 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:20:02
461 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:10:56
Every time he appears for the Reds, fans worldwide will remember him and the club he plays for. The punishment really starts when he resumes playing. Maybe they should just play him in home non-televised games.
462 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:20:41
463 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:19:19
464 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:22:23
Also, did anyone notice that during our recent visit Highbury, Sagna, feigned a head injury so that the ref would stop the game whilst we were in a promising position. The camera then showed the little cunt grinning to himself. Wenger missed that one though.
465 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:25:11
Maybe some good will come of all this and the FA will start to implement their rules impartially and take their officials to task for being lenient towards certain players and certain clubs on the other hand....
466 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:24:17
Denis (#452), your first point brings to mind Gary Neville's view on the matter. Just because the culture in these parts sees the likes of biting and spitting as the lowest of the low doesn't make it so. Why isn't punching or insulting someone's mother seen as just as bad?
And as for your comment on tackling, I was talking about a challenge that in no doubt was meant to injure a player, think Keane against Haaland or when Big Dunc threw a punch.
Surely this whole biting/spitting thing is based on what we see as the norm. It isn't actually any worse than many other offences.
Having said that, I hope he appeals and gets 20 games.
467 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:25:12
468 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:36:29
469 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:40:12
"Human bites have been shown to transmit hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex virus (HSV), syphilis, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and tetanus. Evidence suggests that it is biologically possible to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) through human bites, although this is quite unlikely."
Stop defending the indefensible. Bites are very serious, and have no place in ANY walk of life, let alone in a sporting arena.
470 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:45:19
471 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:33:42
472 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:49:09
You didn't address my more general point though. I doubt the FA have taken the risk of disease into their verdict although I could be wrong. Can disease spread though spitting? Would it receive the same punishment? Might my cultural argument have some merit?
473 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:56
However, I would add that any individual who resorts to spitting or biting need their heads examined. These are truly disgusting acts regardless of whatever civilized society you come from and am not just saying that because of Suarez, you can chuck the likes of Diouf in as well.
And I would much rather my kid decked someone (and get punished) than even think of spitting or biting someone!!
474 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:32
475 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:52:28
476 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:38
To further belittle it by saying 'it clearly gave people something and somewhere to talk about' is for me a step too close to the line that we are now already hearing from the real red media, which is making excuses for what is inexcusable, and calling the 10-match ban unreasonable.
477 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:53:36
The fact is that the punishments for reckless tackles and punching aren't as bad and I doubt any TW readers would react nearly as badly as they have done to the bite. I think the reaction is due to his actions being unbelievable as in it would never cross my mind to bite someone. I'd kick or punch them which wouldn't be seen as insane like biting does. Maybe it's different elsewhere.
Anyway, I'm not defending Suarez. I think his stamp on Disitn was nearly as bad. No effort whatsoever to get the ball. He could have had him out for months but would have received no more than three games had the ref not deemed it ok.
479 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:59:37
480 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:59:06
Either way, I still stand that the 10 games is nowhere near enough, he's just going to jet off to Uruguay and spend the next couple of months partying on the beach. It's not exactly going to teach him a lesson.
481 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:04:42
483 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:09:24
The Echo comments page is good fuckin' value btw. I'd advise you all to take a look. Hilarious.
484 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:57:54
10 games is far too lenient. He has a catalogue of offences throughout his career that show he just doesn't give a flying fuck about the rules. He's sly, a proven cheat, doesn't learn from his mistakes, has admitted the charge but refuted any claim for a longer than 3-game ban showing he doesn't get the gravity of what he did.
BTW, Suarez doesn't need help he needs punishing and educating. If someone can't behave themselves then they need 'breaking in' like a horse or a dog. Talk about spin! Louis is a lovely guy who just needs help.
485 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:06:02
I've never come across a player who disgusts me as much as this rat - but what gets me is that he fits in perfect at Anfield, with the rest of the cheating / ref barging shower of twats he's amongst.
Just expecting to see the usual Stevie G Laa two-legged dive he's become famous for over the years in the Derby!
486 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:10:02
488 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:21:15
You just couldn't make up how fucking thick that lot are, and they're probably all millionaires. What happens to these otherwise clever people, when they walk into Anfield?
"Okay, do you want the job?"
"And do you agree to a full frontal lobotomy?"
489 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:19:38
490 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:22:09
491 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:19:39
Jeez they really are losing any slight hint of dignity they had previously retained!
If an Everton player was to bite someone I would expect the club to ban him, and applaud them for it.
I can't believe they are still defending him...........what are they thinking??
493 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:28:26
494 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:05:35
496 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:09:32
Bad tackles are a hazard of the job and for the most part unintentional, this was a disgusting purposeful and unprovoked attack on a fellow player. Not to mention the shit head clearly wasn't deterred by his previous indiscretions i.e his last toothy assault in the Netherlands. 10 games is bang on for me.
497 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:37:12
498 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:41:05
499 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:44:21
Then he'll start sucking the life out of players like a fucking vampire! Not a good idea!
500 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:47:45
I referred only to the intentional fouls where someone goes in intentionally to injure a player. I even listed examples so as not to have to say "INTENTIONAL" again.
I also said I think it's harsh but only if they don't take previous offences into account. If they do then it's close enough for me.
502 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:51:50
We're above them at the moment so they'll be up for this one and how many times have we supposed to have been up for matches and rolled over? How can you tell I've supported Everton for 55 years? You'd never guess!
503 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:46:46
I presume you mean kopite "world and his wife will want them to win"
I've spoken to Man Utd (goes without saying they wanted him deported)), City, West Ham, Stoke and Arsenal fans in the last couple of days and they all say he needs sorting out
We can get a bit insular and parochial at times
Travelling around, you realise it's not just Blues who can't stand Liverpool FC; Suarez and their excuses for him are making "proper" fans of other teams dislike them thoroughly
505 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:02:16
507 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:13:12
Clearly, the penalties for his offences need to start ramping up. Personally, I think he's ruining the game as a spectacle for many fans.
I'm pretty saddened by the fact that somehow, out of all of this, a person like that is earning a fortune every week. Something very wrong with this world.
508 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:20:48
We'll see whether Hannibal Suarez decides to appeal, he'd be a fool if he does.
511 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:27:17
512 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:24:47
Amazing how many ''bad boys'' still get rewarded. How about Vinnie Jones?
513 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:22:11
514 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:33:59
515 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:29:20
516 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:35:09
517 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:31:35
518 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:39:50
Sit back tune in to as many radio, tv news, twitter, forums as you can.
Our loveable neighbours are going into meltdown, and that should be enjoyed.
519 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:35:39
It's enough putting up with some of the regular antagonists on these boards without having you two at each others ... wats.its.....
520 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:26:38
In the rat's short time in the PL, his name has always been associated with diving, fouling, biting and bad sportsmanship. Just like with Joey Barton the FA will only put up with so much before they say enough-is-enough and rightly ban them for a long time.
The RS should've had the decency to ban the player themselves like Man Utd did with Cantona.
521 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:44:10
522 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:50:56
LFC are the school kid who attacks another pupil at school, whose parents say little Jonny is really sorry, who offer to buy the victim in his class a new set of braces and when the school suspend Little Jonny anyway, the kid lashes out again kicking the door on the way out, and whose parents suddenly drop the charm offensive and rather than take a look at themselves and their own kid, choose instead to attack the school's disciplinary policy. LFC fans, I pity you...
523 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:00:06
524 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:10:28
525 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:11:33
526 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:15:16
I know we all loved Big Dunc who was a bit of a thug, but at least he fought with his hands.
My 5 year old kid said 'look daddy, he's naughty, he's biting' when I was watching it on tv. If he knows its wrong, how can Suarez and so many Liverpool fans accept it or defend it?
527 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:18:48
529 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:16:30
For those people who think he has been harshly treated, don't forget Big Dunc started his Everton Career in Prison because of a headbutt during a match.
531 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:32:33
Granted the red-dominated meeja are "aghast" but football fans won't be
Strangely, amongst all the deluded and self-serving opinion, hats off to Liverpool Supporters Club chairman Richard Pedder who said: "I don't think it's a shock, I think he deserves everything he gets.
Take a bow, that man
534 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:48:03
537 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:48:49
543 Posted 24/04/2013 at 20:40:25
548 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:01:40
549 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:03:30
550 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:05:55
551 Posted 24/04/2013 at 20:57:32
Earlier in the year we witnessed a moment of madness from Fellaini. He was provoked, fouled and provoked some more and eventually snapped. There were a few comments about Shawcross deserving it, but the general consensus was that whatever ban came Fellaini's way would be fair. When all said and done, you cant headbutt a fellow player.
Conversely, over the park, you have a 'man', unprovoked, biting another player and that lot are disgusted at his ban. AND, the club itself also come out and express disappointment. Did they honestly expect a three game ban and nothing more to be said? It just shows the blinkered arrogance of the fans and the club.
If they had any grace they would have accepted WHATEVER the FA had given them and tendered a further, final apology.
He fucking BIT another player!
552 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:30:16
553 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:28:49
554 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:53:13
I think the RS players will just wear T-shirts again supporting the rat faced twat! They've bitten off more then they can chew on this one
561 Posted 24/04/2013 at 22:48:55
564 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:02:35
567 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:17:06
568 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:18:37
572 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:51:33
You're right, it was reported in the Daily Fail on Tuesday. I've got the link in an independent blog I wrote on the ban this evening:
Links at the end of the page...
Shows precisely what a role model footballers are viewed as, yet they show utter contempt for those of us who pay their wages week in, week out by their reprehensible behaviour.
Considering Ratboy had previous, I'm not surprised at the length of the ban, I'm more surprised at the guts the FA have had to punish him for longer.
573 Posted 25/04/2013 at 00:17:43
"Suarez bites the Serb"
"Suarez bites the Serb"
"And gets a 10-match ban, a 10-match ban"
"Suarez bites the Serb"
Or change the last line to, "For biting the Serb"
575 Posted 25/04/2013 at 00:24:18
In my haste I misspelt it!
577 Posted 25/04/2013 at 01:06:51
Doesn't seem to scan rhythmically
Could you hum it for me
578 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:31:50
They thought they had scored
They thought they had scored
Stupid red shite
They thought they had scored
But his teeth were offside
His teeth were offside
His teeth were offside.
583 Posted 25/04/2013 at 03:14:53
591 Posted 25/04/2013 at 06:29:43
600 Posted 25/04/2013 at 07:29:52
601 Posted 25/04/2013 at 07:45:33
I may sound like a doom and gloom merchant but too many heartaches over the past 40 years are now ingrained whenever we play them and the worst is expected.
605 Posted 25/04/2013 at 08:43:11
To bite a fellow human being is disgusting.
However, have we now reached a situation in football where we want to win at any cost ?
For example, if Suarez was offered to us would you take him ? Guaranteed 20+ goals a season and more to get a Champions League place.
Moral dilemma time ?
607 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:02:25
610 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:17:32
When I went into work the following day I received no end of grief and had to take it all on the chin.
It's not for me. This great club has integrity and that's part of the reason I love it.
614 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:57:37
615 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:11:01
Chelsea player Branislav Ivanovic refused entry into Switzerland to play Basel as he is suffering from Rabies!!!!!!!!!!
616 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:13:01
There is just something fundamentally rotten about the club.
There inability to take responsibility for anything is shocking.
Always a victim, never responsible, always arrogant, morally corrupt.
627 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:55:10
Quite simply no! I would not tolerate any player no matter how good they are tarnish the clubs image that I love, we have standards.
628 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:18:21
Steady on, Kevin, Liverpool have standards as well. They're just not very high.
631 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:05:35
A club whose supporters would send in recipes to help Alex Young's blistered feet; whose greatest ever player, despite appalling treatment and assaults from defenders, was never booked and only spoken to once by a referee who asked "would you like a peppermint, William?"; whose innovations and contributions to the development of football in this country are second to none; whose former staff and players, even those who just passed through, retain a genuine love and affection.
I was brought up on tales of Mercer, Dean, Lawton and saw Young, Wilson, Labone, the Trinity, Sheedy, Bracewell, McKenzie, Dobson et al. My era had great respect for other clubs' great players, Best, Bell, Moore, Charlton etc. I was taught that, for Everton, winning is not everything you have to win with style; old-fashioned it may be, but nonetheless something many of us have witnessed and, as with our motto, still believe in.
I would not want a low-life like Suarez to sully all those wonderful memories no matter what. Leave him where he belongs, at a club that is just a business now, so far from its roots and so fallen from grace that I'm embarrassed that it has anything to do with my City.
633 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:51:48
I'd forgotten about the Alex Young's blisters.
And "would you like a peppermint, William?" - creased me up.
634 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:08:49
He is the same as Cahill was for us, always winding up players (albeit, Suarez takes it to a whole different level).
I would love him in our team, the difference would be that I wouldn't think about defending him, the same way most of us didn't defend Fellaini, Pienaar or Pip when they did something stupid.
637 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:38:38
I don't subscribe to the Suarez "he's a nasty twat but he's our nasty twat" school
How the PFA and/or his fellow-players haven't done him is beyond me
Have a look at the YouTube comps of Suarez's previous and then come back and repeat "he is the same as Cahill"
640 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:57:54
642 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:48:12
If you're prepared to sell your soul what's left ?
I'm from Shropshire and in the mid-80's went to see a pre-season friendly between Everton and Telford. at Telford (think we'd won the league previous season)
Sheedy took exception to a tackle from a Telford player. It wasn't malicious and just highlighted the lad's lack of skill/technique. Sheedy was ok but decided to meet out some payback - for a while it looked as if he'd broken the lad's leg. He hadn't but I think he had to go off.
Bottom line - it was nasty and unnecessary.
Peter Reid reaction was to give Sheedy a tongue lashing that we could hear (small non-league ground).
Funny how things stay in your mind for almost 30 years.
Maybe incidents like that show the difference between us and our 'neighbours'.
643 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:07:24
But there will still be a risk yes, 'cos unless also Gerrard has a ban, he is the same kind of shit like the rat.
647 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:48:03
But all the pricks are missing the point. There is a wholly different psychological and behavioural threshold to be crossed when you bite someone. It is primeval and basic....even primitive. Apart from something we learn to hold in our hands, our teeth are the most vicious weapon we have at our disposal and Suarez attempted to use his on the arm of somebody who had done nothing to him at all except take the ball off him. Toddlers bite other children out of unrestrained anger and frustration but even amongst children it is rare. Even for very young children the threshold is very difficult to cross and this is why it is taken so seriously in nurseries and schools when it occurs as it can be a symptom of severe emotional problems.
Suarez is not a toddler. He is an adult and a professional footballer with children of his own and yet this is at least the second occasion that he has chosen to bite an opposition player on the football pitch. This, together with many of his other behavioural problems, is a sign of a possible personality disorder.
He may well be a very good footballer as some have pointed out and leg breaking tackles are terrible in themselves, nobody is denying that but the very fact that there is a player out there who can resort to trying to bite an opponent in a ferret like manner out of anger and frustration is very worrying. Ten games, in light of this, is not excessive in my view. Some of the leg breakers we see today were acceptable in the game not that long ago and they are slowly, perhaps too slowly, being driven from the game. But biting in the ferocious animalistic manner in which Suarez has now done at least twice is of a completely different order even if it is highly unlikely it would put another player's career in jeopardy.
The images of this event that keep being replayed still make my skin crawl as they did on Sunday. This lad has major problems and if he is not careful, notwithstanding any injuries he could inflict upon some others, he may choose the wrong victim at some point and end up severely injured himself. Imagine him biting Pat van Den Hauwe or Roy Keane!!!
649 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:18:58
I think from a financial point of view, they would not get top dollar for him at this stage. There would be clubs interested in him but they would highlight the baggage coming with him and look for a discount accordingly.
It may suit Liverpool best to hang on to him for another season. He can carry them again next season and once things have died down they can squeeze more out of a transfer fee next year.
If most fans and pundits are honest, they will tell you that they understand this approach completely. The bottom dollar in football is money and success. Suarez will deliver both if Liverpool handle him right.
It is all well to say that Utd automatically banned Cantona and took swift action for his kung fu kick. But they did so from a position of strength, star player or not. They were challenging for silverware and had a much stronger squad than Liverpool have now.
650 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:19:58
651 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:21:14
Comparing Tim Cahill to a diving, racist, cannibal scum like Sewer Rat is insulting and quite frankly laughable.
You sometimes accuse me of writing rubbish but yours really takes the biscuit.
No Everton player would even contemplate biting another professional footballer but for the same player to bite a player TWICE is disturbing and disgusting.
They should have given him a 5 month ban, as he has previous history, he has been racist previously, he cheats and dives every week and most importantly of all, he was completely UNPROVOKED by Ivanovic.
652 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:58:34
When I see kids with his name on their shirts I question the morality of the parents. Then I remember what they are and simply shrug.
654 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:41:28
655 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:41:56
Suarez is obviously an over-competitive almost psychopathic personality, and Liverpool would be wise to avoid appeals etc, especially after the Evra incident, but they probably feel that unless they appeal they risk alienating a player whom they want to keep in their team.
All clubs have their moral blind spots, I still feel shame for the way we greeted the return of Duncan Ferguson when he returned after a gaol sentence for assault on another player. Not our finest hour, when we treated a criminal as a hero.
658 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:55:21
What are you talking about?!
It's nothing to do with the 'amount of injury' caused. It's the nature of what he's done. What goes through a persons head to actually bite someone unprovoked during a game of football?!
Probably the stupidest post of the day.
659 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:10:48
Hardly a criminal, more a young lad out of his depth, in the goldfish bowl of Glaswegian football.
661 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:15:33
The film is worth a watch regardless of its subject matter.
663 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:26:15
Suarez is a creature no doubt but so to is John Terry yet Terry gets 4-match ban for being a racist, Suarez 8 games? Defoe bites an opponent, he gets a yellow card; Suarez 10-game ban?Wayne Rooney violent conduct gets a red card playing for England; FA go cap in hand begging Uefa to get the ban reduced. In fact, when ever Sky 4 players or Cockney Blue Eyed boys fuck up, the powers that be can't wait to help them out.
Liverpool fans are twats and I despise them but I do think Suarez has been hung out to dry a bit by the bent twats who run our game. RS fans I have spoke to would accept what Suarez gets if everyone else got dealt with in the same fashion...
I mean John Terry bottled a woman at 2:00am outside a night club and ends up Captain of Chelsea and England? Rio Ferdinand is a drugs cheat he ends up Captain of Man Utd and playing for his country...
It's a joke really and I don't think Suarez would be treated the same if he was English.
665 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:29:36
Rodgers: "There's that little wire in his brain that sometimes acts differently. That's what we're trying to help."
666 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:21:22
If memory serves me Ferguson was reported by an off duty policeman, obviously someone with a grudge against Ferguson, for head butting another player. The player spoke FOR Ferguson in court. What would have been the reaction on here if Fellaini had been gaoled for butting Shawcross?
Arsewipes like Lawrenson and the cretins on Talksport were already calling for a 10-match ban for Fellaini after the Stoke game and were none too pleased at the usual 3-match ban he got. Try and remember how many other players have been gaoled for their actions on the field of play. And when you can come up with a suitable list, tell me who they are.
Like many lads on here, I played football for years in Liverpool and Welsh leagues, however, I have NEVER seen anyone bitten by another player. There were fights and punches, headbutts etc., galore but that was not unusual, you just got on with the game, if the ref missed it, and waited for your chance for retribution. But it all ended with a handshake or, rarely, some afters in the dressing room. Imagine the reaction from Suarez if HE'D been bitten...
667 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:30:53
His own club have admitted he needs psychiatric help FFS!
668 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:27:18
The FA's and football's problem is that it has sold it's soul to the corporate world, and as such it always find's itself compromising its morals to ensure that the money keeps rolling in. That stance is evident with the silly kick off time for the Cup Final which doesn't signal that the fans of the clubs involved are of any importance to the FA.
A top ranking FIFA official said this week it was too difficult to stage the World Cup in Brazil as the country was too democratic and that for the WC in Russia it would be easier, which is very revealing and says how important ordinary folk are to the people who run sport and football in particular.
Maybe it's time for supporters to be more vocal about what they want the game to be and how they wish it to be governed otherwise the sponsors and corporates will just allow the game itself to suffer and keep taking the money.
677 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:00:20
I just don't understand it!
If my kid bit someone in school I would expect him to be suspended, also I would punish him over and above anything they dished out. I'd react that way because he should know better...bear in mind I'm talking about an 8 year old kid here, not a grown man!!
I feel like i'm continuously repeating myself but how can they keep defending the indefensible??
679 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:48:04
Tony, you seem to be buying into all the redshite arguments here. This prick has been playing a cynical game for years and he's now, finally, got caught out. 10 games is very light considering his many transgressions that we witness weekly. How many goals has he scored or set up when he shouldn't even have been on the pitch? How many games have RS won when they should have been down to 10 men?
Ian and Brenda are trying to reduce the argument to this incident. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with that. It's not one incident, it's many incideants and it's a pattern of behaviour where a man crosses the line of what is acceptable time and time again. (Brenda is on TV now saying the he would like 5/6 more players like suarez!)
Liverpool and the media are spreading this argument that there are many worse things than biting someone and they are right. Kicking out, lashing out, raking studs, elbowing, kneeing, stamping and pushing can all be a lot more painful than a bite. But, you know what? Suarez has been doing all those things too but they're not mentioning that!
681 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:10:07
'If I had more players of a similar mentality we would be in a different position. He has not let me down one bit. -
Silly me I thought all of his team had the same mentality. (to be fair I think he was talking about his competitive nature, but hey poetic licence)
687 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:36:49
UEFA will offer a place in next season's Europa League competition to the top ranking club from each of the top three fairest European leagues.
England are currently fourth behind Norway, Sweden and Finland in the overall rankings, but have a month to make up the difference.
Liverpool are second behind Arsenal in the Premier League fair play table, but with the Gunners looking set to finish in fifth place at the very least, Brendan Rodgers' men would take the qualification place.
His side have 49 yellow cards and two reds this season, given to Daniel Agger and Jonjo Shelvey earlier in the campaign, but the fair play table also takes into account positive play, respect towards opponents and the referee and behaviour of team officials and public.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2314542/Luis-Suarez-return-competitive-action-Europa-League-July-Liverpools-placing-UEFA-fair-play-table.html#ixzz2RUBtWwUG
See that's why the referees never book them as often as they should do, his ban doesn't count against the club.
689 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:44:34
If anything the popularity of this thread and the clear manner in which it touches a nerve, highlights one thing more than ever. Evertonians wince when they see the antics of their neighbours.
In 1985, our club was denied its big chance after twice being stopped in its tracks during war times. 'You're just a bitter blue' is their constant retort to this. After all, what is 5 years of possible attempts at European supremacy? That's nothing compared to a 10-match ban for a cretin.
They are always far more hard done by than us. You couldn't make this up, you really couldn't. I am just merely observing them squirm now in the most classless predictable fashion because, as far as I am concerned, they reap what they sow.
691 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:44:28
711 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:15:00
Furthermore, no player of theirs should ever be penalised, Stevie G should give all decisions on the pitch (which isn't far from happening already), and their highly intelligent, literate supporters should have all blame for the events at Heysel completely expunged.
727 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:13:24
Comparing Tim Cahill to a diving, racist, cannibal scum like Sewer Rat is insulting and quite frankly laughable.
You sometimes accuse me of writing rubbish but yours really takes the biscuit."
So Cahill didn't wind players up then? Of course he did!
I don't like Saurez, he is a scumbag but he would waltz into our side and make us a better team. The logical thinking states I would have him in the Royal Blue, no problem.
The comparison was that Cahill was hated by other teams fans because in the early days they knew how good he was and how he was always up for the big games, that is comparative to Suarez because he is a dirty, cheating wind up merchant but he gets the job done.....when he is not banned.
728 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:20:32
First off I suppose you don't know any Liverpool supporters?In this city, some families are split down the middle you can't avoid speaking to them unless you live in another city... even then, you will find them.
Second, I am not defending Suarez; I am made up he is banned. I am making an observation about the shitbag FA who bend and change the rules when they see fit. Surely you are not daft enough to believe JT's defence or are you actually saying some are more racist than others??? If biting is a 10-game ban, well good but ban all gnasher merchants the same. What Suarez did in another country has nowt to do with our FA.
733 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:35:13
Could some blue please take a banner to Anfield, amongst all their twattish banners, that just says : LFC, OUTRAGED AT EVERYTHING, ASHAMED OF NOTHING.
This club of honour and integrity bullshit should be exposed to the world, they're the most vile, entitled, arrogant and despicable club and supporters on earth.
739 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:10:33
Clearly I was giving them too much credit to believe that they could recover just a tiny bit of class that they may once have had.
They are truly breathtaking in their arrogance, victim status and a deranged belief that they can do no wrong.
RS fans - can you honestly say that ratboy has not let you down, not one bit.
The hypocrisy, immorality and total lack of any standards of decency from a so called world club is simply disgusting.
Jeez - I need a friggin lie down!
750 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:37:26
For example, something like (not my idea I saw on facebook), a big replay screen projection of him wearing one of those upside down cone dog collars.
And/or syncronised putting on of Hannibal lector masks. Imagine across the whole stand.
Marks for creativity and thinking out side the box.
When (Brazilian) Ronaldo (playing for santos) got caught with those trannies, for his away game at flamengo, the supporters hired a bunch of trannies go sing for him during the whole game
758 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:15:03
764 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:34:26
766 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:35:51
790 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:27:03
Two posts made me smile though.
Dave at #647 "Where the hell would they have found Suarez's head if he had done this to Pat van den Hauwe???" Row Z perhaps and problem solved.
Ray at #666. "How would Suarez have reacted if someone bit him?" Now that would have been so funny that the stadium would have gone into spasm.
Both scenarios are so funny it makes you realise this little arsewipe should not be tolerated. 10-match ban??? Why not just sack him. Any other employee in any other situation would no longer be employed. Tell me I'm wrong... (Unlesss you're a professional nibbler!!)
797 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:42:24
805 Posted 25/04/2013 at 21:11:41
821 Posted 25/04/2013 at 22:47:04
825 Posted 25/04/2013 at 23:07:08
No moral compass whatsoever, vile club with vile fans, world take note.
277 Posted 28/04/2013 at 01:34:48
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