Suarez misses derby with 10-match ban

by | 24/04/2013

Liverpool's Luis Suarez will miss the derby with Everton next month and a whole lot more games as the FA hand him a 10-match ban for biting Branislav Ivanovich at the weekend.

The Uruguayan forward has courted controversy throughout his time in England since arriving at Anfield from Ajax, where he served a seven-match ban for another biting incident.

This fresh ban will take the number of matches he has missed for Liverpool through suspension to 30 games and, as Evertonians know all too well from the Goodison derby, had the match officials or the FA done their job it could well have been more.

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Matt Traynor
419 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:00:59
10 match ban, even more harsh than most were expecting!
Tony J Williams
422 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:06:23
Cue the appeal and he will still play in the derby....
James Morgan
423 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:04
10 games. Good. Dirty rat.
Andrew Ellams
424 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:19
I'm not sure they will appeal. I think they'll be happier to wipe out 4 of the games this season as they are not going anywhere and minimise the damage next year if he should stay.
Brent Stephens
425 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:08:59
He has until noon Friday to appeal. Does anybody know how quickly FA organise appeals?
Brian Harrison
426 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:09:04
As I understand it because he has admitted the offence the automatic 3 game ban starts immediately and he may appeal against the extra 7 games. But he will definitely miss the Newcastle game on Saturday and the Derby game.
Alan McGuffog
427 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:16:23
Spot on Andrew....the season is over for the reds. Why would they risk him missing more games next season just so he can play in a few meaningless games in the next week or so. They know they'll beat us in the derby with or without Toothy
Patrick Murphy
429 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:09:59
Watching BBC News the Football Editor of the Times was speaking, his name is Tony Evans a Liverpool lad by the sound of him and who appears to be yet another Liverpool Fan in the media.

He said 10 matches is too much, around eight would have been nearer the mark. Frequently see players punching and butting people (a veiled reference to Felli?) and they don't receive such bans.

Stand by for Suarez the victim spin and how the FA are all out to get him and his club. I think they will appeal and as I said earlier he may yet play in the Derby – pending the outcome of his appeal.

Phil Sammon
430 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:18:08
The club are 'Shocked and disappointed'.

What the fuck were they expecting?! The lousy bastards!

Paul Ferry
431 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:13:33
Real style and class yet again from the once decent Liverpool FC who are 'shocked and disappointed' at the length of the ban. Whatever dignity remained has dripped away with a reaction like this. Instead of accepting it and coping with it Brenda and Ian yet again have read the plot completely wrongly in a manner way off synch with humanity and morality.

Half of me wants the sub-human thug, racist, diver, cheat, and biter to jump ship; the other half wants low-life to stay and continue to stain the shite, coz we all know that something will happen next season. All of me is fascinated by how the shite handle sewer-rat and continue to defend the scummiest player I have seen on an English footie pitch in my life-time. Looking forward to more reaction from the Anfield powers-that-be and scum-slug.

Mike Green
432 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:17:47
Blimey, I've got to say I wasn't expecting that, that's pretty stiff IMO.

It might also be enough for him to think "I don't need this, I'm off...."

We'll have to wait and see....

Alan Parry
434 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:29:44
Come on Brenda, no need to moan, where is the positive spinning now? Why aren't you mentioning this afternoon the Dr Dolittle who was gonna sit Luis down and talk to him and be his anger management mentor?

Come on Ian, you said, the most important thing was to mend Luis, to get to the heart of his issues. Surely the 10-match rest will now give you time to do this. Come on fellas, put the machine on spin cycle like you did on Monday....

Kevin Tully
435 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:22:02
On the original thread , somebody pointed out the reds were really just like us, here is an abridged version of their outrage;

1. Let's go and play in the Spanish League.

2. Take the FA to court for corruption.

3. The Premier League will make sure their first 6 fixtures next season are against all the top sides.

4. Alex Ferguson has instructed them how long the ban should be.

5. It was the Daily Mail stirring thing up.

6. They were all Mancs on the panel who hate anything about the club, and they never want them to win anything again.

7. The FA are all a bunch of racist twats, who are trying to drive out Luis, because he is foreign. (They can't even see the irony of the last one!)

8. Stop any of their players representing England again.

These are just a few of the pearlers they are coming out with. I retract my last statement calling them self-pitying conspiracy theorists. I now believe most of them are mentally unstable.

Patrick Murphy
436 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:34:47
Kevin : - would that be the same Daily Mail who gave huge banner typeface for Jamie Carragher to give his opinion?

Do pre-season friendlies count in the number of games someone misses if they are banned?

Davie Turner
437 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:37:42
How things change, a few days ago it was all how disgraceful is Suarez and how it wasn't part of the values of LFC etc etc.... Today, it 10 games! Our poor Suarez didn't deserve that, he a victim of the FA and blah blah.....
Lyndon Lloyd
Editorial Team
438 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:36:27
For the record, I'm not sure we at ToffeeWeb should be reporting on who Liverpool have available to them for the derby, irrespective of how bizarre the incident was that led to his ban.

There's clearly a fascination with Suarez, though, so I must be in the minority of those uncomfortable with the sensationalisation of the whole thing.

Kevin Tully
439 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:40:13
Pat, friendlies don't count, but League cup games do I think.

Anthony Flack
440 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:40:20
Friendlies and reserve games are not counted.
Tony Marsh
441 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:39:00
I wouldn't start popping the Champagne corks just yet as playing the RS, regardless of who they have available, is never easy for us. I still don't fancy us at Anfield, Suarez or no Suarez. Gerrard loves this game and it is he who will decide our fate, as per usual.
Scott Hamilton
442 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:43:24
I'm with Lyndon. Great news that Suarez will miss the derby but let's move on. This is an Everton site after all
Barry Rathbone
443 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:42:10
The most popular and inane comments from virulent reds appears to be "so biting is worse than racism".....

That this demented idiot has been found guilty on both counts while being castigated as one of the most poisonous cheats in football troubles not their empty skulls.

Keelhaul him under one of the mersey ferries for good measure.

Phil Bellis
444 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:44:57
Lyndon
I've never seen any comments re the follow-up Rodwell sending-off so presume it's just me with this particular bee in my bonnet

But
When the card was rescinded as it was shown to be a fair challenge, Rodwell did not, in fact, kick Suarez in the goolies whilst aiming for his knee and the squeal of agony was just a reaction to a small grass burn

why was Suarez not disciplned by either the FA or that even more useless body, the PFA?

Michael Kenrick
445 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:44:07
Lyndon, I think we have to make exceptions to our usual rules (about the other lot) — just as we did for all the Hillsborough stuff.

I thought on Sunday, as I happened to glance up from whatever else I was doing and saw this abominable character biting another player, that this was an unbelievable scenario playing out.

I don't see it is as sensationalism. This was an absolutely disgusting barbaric and criminally insane act to perpetuate on a football field. The number of comments on the original thread is a testament to how a significant number of Everton fans feel about it — and rightly so, in my opinion.

Denis Richardson
446 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:45:32
Well, Moyes – 11 years and counting for a win at Anlfield. Liverpool have just lost (from an effectiveness point of view) half their team for the derby.

The gods did us a great favour with the FA Cup draw this season and we blew it – you've now got a big break re the derby, let's see if you can use it....

Patrick Murphy
447 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:45:46
Ian Herbert of the Independent on BBC, says no skin was broken there is no injury no material damage to the opponent the FA should be careful of responding to the response rather than what actually occurred. Hmmmm the press must get more than a couple of G&T's when they viist Anfield.

I think the fascination of us Blues is centred more on the response of the media and the fact that whoever Suarez played for many of us believe that he is by far the worst behaved player to have 'graced' the top flight of football. There have been many 'dirty' players in the game but not many that I can think of who go out to cheat in every single match that they play.

Denis Richardson
448 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:53:32
Re the RS, I personally think the ban is pretty light considering the offence and the fact he's done it before.

They wont be bothered at all about him missing the last 4 games as they've nothing left to play for this season. As for next season, the fact that the ban (I believe) includes cup games, he won't actually miss that many league games next year given rounds 2 & 3 of the league cup. In fact I think he'll only miss the first 4 league games next year, so will be back in the team beginning of Sept.

Ban should have been more like 15 games!! All he's gotten is just an extended holiday!

James Stewart
449 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:54:42
Good. Fully deserved. He has already had a 7 match ban for the same thing so logic dictates a second offence should be higher. Nasty piece of work. Still not forgotten his disgusting attempt to injure Distin and Mirallas.
Jim Pearce
450 Posted 24/04/2013 at 15:57:49
I have just seen the FAs report, and it was actually 4 games for the bite, then 2 x 3 games for the little weasels 'accidental' stamps on Kev and Distin back in the Derby....

And I quote:

"We at the FA, have been waiting for months to get the dirty little weasel for his acts of vileness at Goodison, so today seemed as good a day as any to get him."

Shane Corcoran
452 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:03:27
It will be interesting to see if the written reason for the ten games takes his previous offence(s) into account. If not it's extremely harsh regardless of the individual involved.

As Carragher has pointed out, why so much for this and not for a leg-breaking tackle?

Robin Cannon
454 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:05:16
See all this talk about anger management stuff, and I don't really see the point.

Watch that replay again. As soon as he bites Ivanovic, he falls over, appeals for a penalty, gets up, smiles...doesn't look angry or out of control at all.

Tony J Williams
455 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:08:37
"The most popular and inane comments from virulent reds appears to be "so biting is worse than racism"....." - Barry, that was the first thing the dozy red in front of me said... Of course I had to educate him in the meaning of accumulated offences.....God I hate them!
Kevin Tully
456 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:10:54
Shane (#452) - You play football with your legs and feet, not with your teeth!
Mike Powell
457 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:15:02
Should've deported the rat, the most vile player ever to play in the Prem. He fits in well over there.
Lyndon Lloyd
458 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:07:40
Michael, Hillsborough is an entirely different kettle of fish — it transcended football and while it was Liverpool fans involved, it was something that deeply affected the people of the city.

This is just the latest in a long line of disgraceful acts perpetrated by the most objectionable footballer I have ever had the misfortune to watch.

While the item posted after Sunday's game was red-top/Daily Mail-level sensationalism, in my opinion, it clearly gave people something and somewhere to talk about but, for me, that was sufficient for an Everton site.

Denis Richardson
459 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:18:34
Shane #452 – there are certain things you can understand in football and one of them is a tackle that's reckless but at least going for the ball. When you're running full pelt and don't time things right, people can and do get hurt but that's part of the game.

Things like spitting and biting(!) do not have any place in the game, or in any sport or civilised society whatsoever. There is simply no excuse for this, especially when these guys are supposed to be role models for the kids. Should kids at school start 'doing a Suarez'?

Carragher is a knob if he can't see any difference between a reckless tackle and actually fucking biting someone!

Neal King
460 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:20:02
He will definitely be out the derby whether he appeals or not. As someone earlier stated, he will start his 3 game ban immediately and the appeal will be based on the further 7.
Ken Buckley
461 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:10:56
I don't think its the punishment handed out to the man by FA or how many friends in the media they have that will stop the real punishment being handed out. Every fan in the world is aware of the bite and many teams have been on the end of his sly cheating.

Every time he appears for the Reds, fans worldwide will remember him and the club he plays for. The punishment really starts when he resumes playing. Maybe they should just play him in home non-televised games.

Steve Cotton
462 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:20:41
Apparently LFC have asked that, if they have his teeth surgically removed, will the FA drop the ban to 5 games.
Tony Cheek
463 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:19:19
Exactly Kevin, I played football at a high level until I was 35. I admit that I went over the top a few times and got sent off for thumping some prick, but never ever did it go through my head to BITE someone. That's for small kids in kindergarten... and Suarez!
Chris Regan
464 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:22:23
The way to solve the problems of the English game is to ban all cunts, thus clearing out: greasy foreign investors, corrupt agents, Allardyce, Redknapp, Man Utd, all Kopites, and Suarez. This would also clear away our Board of Directors.

Also, did anyone notice that during our recent visit Highbury, Sagna, feigned a head injury so that the ref would stop the game whilst we were in a promising position. The camera then showed the little cunt grinning to himself. Wenger missed that one though.

Patrick Murphy
465 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:25:11
That's a good idea, Ken: if he isn't allowed to appear in televised games we'll never see him again due to the constant TV exposure that his club receive. Oliver Holt of the Mirror is also aghast at the size of the ban and has begun his assault on the incompetent FA and their disciplinary procedures.

Maybe some good will come of all this and the FA will start to implement their rules impartially and take their officials to task for being lenient towards certain players and certain clubs on the other hand....

Shane Corcoran
466 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:24:17
Kevin (#456), so if someone slaps someone it'd be a similar sentence as you don't play football with your hands? Although a 'keeper would be ok.

Denis (#452), your first point brings to mind Gary Neville's view on the matter. Just because the culture in these parts sees the likes of biting and spitting as the lowest of the low doesn't make it so. Why isn't punching or insulting someone's mother seen as just as bad?

And as for your comment on tackling, I was talking about a challenge that in no doubt was meant to injure a player, think Keane against Haaland or when Big Dunc threw a punch.

Surely this whole biting/spitting thing is based on what we see as the norm. It isn't actually any worse than many other offences.

Having said that, I hope he appeals and gets 20 games.

Tom Bowers
467 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:25:12
Quite correct, he will miss the derby no matter what, but Everton need to be on their own game to win at Anfield and we have to hope for a bigger showing than the Wigan and Sunderland performances — but at least they won't have to wear body armour!
Ralph Basnett
468 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:36:29
Not 100% convinced FA bans are applicable to League Cup. Thought it was only Prem and FA Cup?
Kevin Tully
469 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:40:12
Can you get this from a slap, Shane?

"Human bites have been shown to transmit hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex virus (HSV), syphilis, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and tetanus. Evidence suggests that it is biologically possible to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) through human bites, although this is quite unlikely."

Stop defending the indefensible. Bites are very serious, and have no place in ANY walk of life, let alone in a sporting arena.

Ray Robinson
470 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:45:19
The ban should be halved as long as he is made to wear a muzzle for those 5 games that where the ban was rescinded. Now that really would be humiliating and teach him a real lesson.
Eugene Ruane
471 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:33:42
Brendan Brent: "Yeah ok, you say it's fair but what IS fair? Is it fair that tiny babies are born in Africa during a drought yeah? Is it fair that y' know, people are born with disabilities, little hands and all that? So ask yourself yeah, ERGO viz-a-viz biting - small potatoes really...surely. Well ok not small, not like tinned new potatoes but definitely not King Edwards. Maris Piper potatoes if anything yeah...so....let's all just try to...y' know just chill out." (stares into camera for far too long).
Shane Corcoran
472 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:49:09
Kevin, never thought of that but please don't call it indefensible.

You didn't address my more general point though. I doubt the FA have taken the risk of disease into their verdict although I could be wrong. Can disease spread though spitting? Would it receive the same punishment? Might my cultural argument have some merit?

Denis Richardson
473 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:56
Shane (#456) – I take your point and agree to some extent. However in my mind the punishments for things like deliberate reckless tackling and punching should be just as bad. These kind of offences deserve long bans (i.e. more than 10 games!) to try and stop them from happening.

However, I would add that any individual who resorts to spitting or biting need their heads examined. These are truly disgusting acts – regardless of whatever civilized society you come from and am not just saying that because of Suarez, you can chuck the likes of Diouf in as well.

And I would much rather my kid decked someone (and get punished) than even think of spitting or biting someone!!

Mike Powell
474 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:32
Have you heard the RS fans? It's the FA's fault. It's Fergie's fault. It's everyone else's fault. Do they not realise it was Rat face who bit him — not Fergie or anyone at the FA. I think he should've got a longer ban. How much more of this vile horrible little rat have the Premier League got to put up with?
Kevin Tully
475 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:52:28
Shane, this is the second time he has committed the same offence - he's an animal, pure & simple.
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
476 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:43:38
Lyndon, the initial reaction was spontaneous revulsion from fair-minded fans toward yet another despicable act by this unspeakably hideous animal, who has cheated remorselessly and injured players without punishment. For you to label that as 'red-top/Daily Mail-level sensationalism' is to cheapen the validity of a genuine response to the initial incident.

To further belittle it by saying 'it clearly gave people something and somewhere to talk about' is for me a step too close to the line that we are now already hearing from the real red media, which is making excuses for what is inexcusable, and calling the 10-match ban unreasonable.

Shane Corcoran
477 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:53:36
Denis,

The fact is that the punishments for reckless tackles and punching aren't as bad and I doubt any TW readers would react nearly as badly as they have done to the bite. I think the reaction is due to his actions being unbelievable as in it would never cross my mind to bite someone. I'd kick or punch them which wouldn't be seen as insane like biting does. Maybe it's different elsewhere.

Anyway, I'm not defending Suarez. I think his stamp on Disitn was nearly as bad. No effort whatsoever to get the ball. He could have had him out for months but would have received no more than three games had the ref not deemed it ok.

Shane Corcoran
479 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:59:37
Kevin, you don't take part in many debates do you?
Denis Richardson
480 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:59:06
Shane - I get where you're coming from, the reaction as you say is bad because the act is quite frankly insane! He may as well have pulled his shorts down and taken a dump in the centre circle!

Either way, I still stand that the 10 games is nowhere near enough, he's just going to jet off to Uruguay and spend the next couple of months partying on the beach. It's not exactly going to teach him a lesson.

Shane Corcoran
481 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:04:42
Denis, your analogy of him taking shit is perfect and very funny.

Colin Wainwright
483 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:09:24
What would have happened if he'd have bitten the FSW instead? Kopites would be self-combusting.

The Echo comments page is good fuckin' value btw. I'd advise you all to take a look. Hilarious.

John Gee
484 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:57:54
Listening to talksport and two callers have said "What about Fellaini?" I'm sure that will be recurrent theme in the next few days. The poor little picked-on darlings!

10 games is far too lenient. He has a catalogue of offences throughout his career that show he just doesn't give a flying fuck about the rules. He's sly, a proven cheat, doesn't learn from his mistakes, has admitted the charge but refuted any claim for a longer than 3-game ban showing he doesn't get the gravity of what he did.

BTW, Suarez doesn't need help — he needs punishing and educating. If someone can't behave themselves then they need 'breaking in' like a horse or a dog. Talk about spin! Louis is a lovely guy who just needs help.

James Byrne
485 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:06:02
Good riddance to the horrible bastard.................if anything the additional over the 3 are for all of the players he's injured (tried) and the ref's he's cheated this season.

I've never come across a player who disgusts me as much as this rat - but what gets me is that he fits in perfect at Anfield, with the rest of the cheating / ref barging shower of twats he's amongst.

Just expecting to see the usual Stevie G Laa two-legged dive he's become famous for over the years in the Derby!

Paul Gladwell
486 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:10:02
He's done more damage to that club than anyone ever has, even the bollocks about his fine and how it went to the families for justice smacks of poor decision-making. The families have slated the club for using this too.
Kevin Jones
488 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:21:15
Absolute beaut from the Liverpool board. "We await the written reasons tomorrow before making any further comment."

You just couldn't make up how fucking thick that lot are, and they're probably all millionaires. What happens to these otherwise clever people, when they walk into Anfield?

"Okay, do you want the job?"
"Yes, please."
"And do you agree to a full frontal lobotomy?"
"Yep."
"Sign Here!"
X
"You're in!"

Steavey Buckley
489 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:19:38
Suarez being banned should make life much easier in the next derby game, Suarez being easily Liverpool's best player. Without him, Liverpool would have been in relegation trouble. He is that good and they are so bad without him. Because they rely upon on him so much to get his 'teeth' into the opposition.
Colin Wainwright
490 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:22:09
That's the "Libberpool Way" Kevin (488). They're an institution.
Steve King
491 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:19:39
I just saw on Sky Sports News that there is "an atmosphere of anger, shock and resentment" on Merseyside. The club are "shocked and disappointed".

Jeez they really are losing any slight hint of dignity they had previously retained!

If an Everton player was to bite someone I would expect the club to ban him, and applaud them for it.

I can't believe they are still defending him...........what are they thinking??

Patrick Murphy
493 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:28:26
I'm not cock-a-hoop about our Derby prospects I never am, but the world and his wife will want them to win and I have a horrible feeling that we could get a good going over, I wish they had have been playing somebody else in their next home fixture, but no it had to be us didn't it. They will be even more up for it than normal and probably blame Evertonians for the punishment of their star player.

Liam Reilly
494 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:05:35
A bit harsh considering he only bites someone once every 168 matches.
James Morgan
496 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:09:32
Shane, are you for real?
Bad tackles are a hazard of the job and for the most part unintentional, this was a disgusting purposeful and unprovoked attack on a fellow player. Not to mention the shit head clearly wasn't deterred by his previous indiscretions i.e his last toothy assault in the Netherlands. 10 games is bang on for me.
Gavin Fennessy
497 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:37:12
Agree with Lyndon. I think LS has done many things to prove what an objectionable character he is on the football field. A few days on from the incident I think we can draw a line under the name calling "rat" "animal" etc. Lets focus on our club and our situation and let the RS get on with the defence of the indefensible.
Brent Stephens
498 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:41:05
Denis #480 "He may as well have pulled his shorts down and taken a dump in the centre circle!". Yes, but would he then put the belt around the right heap?
Edward Robinson
499 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:44:21
Steve Cotton (462)
Then he'll start sucking the life out of players like a fucking vampire! Not a good idea!
Shane Corcoran
500 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:47:45
James, did you intentionally misread my posts?

I referred only to the intentional fouls where someone goes in intentionally to injure a player. I even listed examples so as not to have to say "INTENTIONAL" again.

I also said I think it's harsh but only if they don't take previous offences into account. If they do then it's close enough for me.

Terry McLavey
502 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:51:50
Tony #441 I'm with you. 90 minutes is a long time against the RS and usually a referee. It's not like they've suspended the whole team, just a very effective player... albeit a total cunt.

We're above them at the moment so they'll be up for this one and how many times have we supposed to have been up for matches and rolled over? How can you tell I've supported Everton for 55 years? You'd never guess!

Phil Bellis
503 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:46:46
Patrick
I presume you mean kopite "world and his wife will want them to win"
I've spoken to Man Utd (goes without saying they wanted him deported)), City, West Ham, Stoke and Arsenal fans in the last couple of days and they all say he needs sorting out

We can get a bit insular and parochial at times

Travelling around, you realise it's not just Blues who can't stand Liverpool FC; Suarez and their excuses for him are making "proper" fans of other teams dislike them thoroughly

Gerry Quinn
505 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:02:16
If that little shite was banned for 7 games last time he committed such a disgusting offence, why are people surprised at a 10 match ban. I fully expected the FA to give him that - why should it have been any less than 7?
Jeremy Benson
507 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:13:12
I expected a 10+ game ban for him. Not a first offence for biting. Wasn't even his first offence in that game, he'd already handled in the area for a penalty (still can't forgive him for his antics against ghana in the world cup...). Has already served a lengthy ban for the racism incident.

Clearly, the penalties for his offences need to start ramping up. Personally, I think he's ruining the game as a spectacle for many fans.

I'm pretty saddened by the fact that somehow, out of all of this, a person like that is earning a fortune every week. Something very wrong with this world.

Ross Edwards
508 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:20:48
Well this ban means that Liverpool will lack appetite and bite for the derby. I'm hoping we can get our teeth into them, but shocking gags aside, I think it should have been more than 10, only adding 3 more from a previous offence. If I were him and the RS, I wouldn't appeal as it might be increased further.
We'll see whether Hannibal Suarez decides to appeal, he'd be a fool if he does.
Patrick Murphy
511 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:27:17
I appreciate what you say Phil, but it doesn't translate like that in the mainstream media, mostly the comments are of 'astonishment' at the length of ban and the excuses keep coming, but I'm pretty sure you're correct in your assessment of other clubs fans.
Tom Bowers
512 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:24:47
This piece of garbage will still come up biting... er, I mean smiling. He will still get big money to score goals whether he leaves the RS or not. He will interest any club who needs more ''bite'' up front.

Amazing how many ''bad boys'' still get rewarded. How about Vinnie Jones?

Peter Thistle
513 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:22:11
It never ceases to amaze me how little class LFC have when an incident like this happens. It's a clichι but they truly are always the victims. Unbelievable bunch of moaners with zero dignity and honour.
Gavin Ramejkis
514 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:33:59
The classless twats are still trying to defend him, Creasehead and Twattiger bang at it, hope they appeal it and get 20.
Dave White
515 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:29:20
Lyndon, agree with you that giving webspace to this odious excuse for a man is wrong on a blue site. But on the flip side, judging by the number of comments above, people clearly wanted to vent their thoughts on Ratface. I guess we should let them.
Gavin Ramejkis
516 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:35:09
We should all get Ben 10 t shirts for the derby, Ben got Ten ha ha ha
Pablo Connelly
517 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:31:35
It amazes me how quickly the media change their tune from calling him a disgrace to jumping to his see defence in kopite fuelled propaganda. I just hope the FA have the strength to throw out the inevitable appeal from those classless c**ts. My missus just told that apparently it was reported that some kid in a school did a suarez on a fellow pupil and bit him. Maybe that will bring it home to anyone who claims this ban is over the top
Paul Andrews
518 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:39:50
Why are you all getting carried away?

Sit back tune in to as many radio, tv news, twitter, forums as you can.

Our loveable neighbours are going into meltdown, and that should be enjoyed.

Brin Williams
519 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:35:39
Lyndon - Michael , don't you two start getting at each other.

It's enough putting up with some of the regular antagonists on these boards without having you two at each others ... wats.its.....

Mark Frere
520 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:26:38
Rat boy's lengthy ban is due to all his previous offences. Let's not forget his ban for racism and his ban in Holland for the same biting offence.

In the rat's short time in the PL, his name has always been associated with diving, fouling, biting and bad sportsmanship. Just like with Joey Barton the FA will only put up with so much before they say enough-is-enough and rightly ban them for a long time.

The RS should've had the decency to ban the player themselves like Man Utd did with Cantona.

Andy Crooks
521 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:44:10
Exactly, Paul. Any attempt by Liverpool and their supporters to defend this just diminishes a once great club even further. They, from Heysel right down to Kenny's insane purchase of Carroll and his graceless demeanour, epitomize all that is rotten about football. They have many decent supporters but the club is rotten to the core.
Alan Parry
522 Posted 24/04/2013 at 18:50:56
Sooner or later, the inevitable demise of classless crass fools is classless sorry endings. .Everything LFC did from Monday morning until the 10-match ban announcement this afternoon was to try and treat the decent fan like a mug. Forced apologies on Twitter despite rampant post match celebrations, cynical gutter level spin like 'he needs help!!!', 'we will work on his psychology', 'no-one is bigger than this club', only for the true colours to appear once the authorities show that their head was not for turning.

LFC are the school kid who attacks another pupil at school, whose parents say little Jonny is really sorry, who offer to buy the victim in his class a new set of braces and when the school suspend Little Jonny anyway, the kid lashes out again kicking the door on the way out, and whose parents suddenly drop the charm offensive and rather than take a look at themselves and their own kid, choose instead to attack the school's disciplinary policy. LFC fans, I pity you...

Gavin Ramejkis
523 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:00:06
Phone into Radio City and Radio Merseyside and put on a dedication for them - the number one hit from August 1983 from UB40 - Red, Red Whine
Colin Glassar
524 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:10:28
He should have his teeth pulled without anaesthesia.
Patrick Murphy
525 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:11:33
Gavin if they haven't got that on their playlist how about 'Calling all the heroes' by 'It Bites'
Kev Prytherch
526 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:15:16
If this was any Everton player, I wouldn't want them to represent the club again.

I know we all loved Big Dunc who was a bit of a thug, but at least he fought with his hands.

My 5 year old kid said 'look daddy, he's naughty, he's biting' when I was watching it on tv. If he knows its wrong, how can Suarez and so many Liverpool fans accept it or defend it?

Mick Fleming
527 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:18:48
How about the famous Queen anthem 'Another one bites the dust' !! I will get my coat!!
Steve Pugh
529 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:16:30
If he stays at Liverpool can we get Vinnie Jones out of retirement, just for 2 games a season. How much would it be worth to see him give Suarez the Gazza treatment?

For those people who think he has been harshly treated, don't forget Big Dunc started his Everton Career in Prison because of a headbutt during a match.

Phil Bellis
531 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:32:33
Patrick
Granted the red-dominated meeja are "aghast" but football fans won't be
Strangely, amongst all the deluded and self-serving opinion, hats off to Liverpool Supporters Club chairman Richard Pedder who said: "I don't think it's a shock, I think he deserves everything he gets.

Take a bow, that man

Richard Farrington
534 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:48:03
I like Big Mouth Strikes Again by The Smiths. Got my tickets for the derby today and just want to do them so much next weekend, its about bloody time. 14 years since we won there.
Peter Warren
537 Posted 24/04/2013 at 19:48:49
Seriously, if a player of ours bit someone, we would be totally shocked. But I don't think we would be shocked by a 10-game ban. That's even without taking loads of stuff into account — his previous biting ban, stamping, finger gestures, fascist ban, feigning injury after incident (proving he had wits about him still), fact he equalised and hence cost the team chasing Champions League losing 2 points and also the aggressive act of saying he disagreed that 3-match ban would be insufficient and contrived apology. Seriously?
Brent Stephens
543 Posted 24/04/2013 at 20:40:25
On an RS forum - "imagine if he'd bitten Dickov". A sense of humour, at least!
Matty Dawkins
548 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:01:40
I've emailed the FA about Sturridge by the way, I want to know what they are doing about his studs up over the ball foul? He needs punishing!
Andy Cobham
549 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:03:30
Has anyone noticed that even with the 10 match ban the little shitehawk has still got off lighter than Duncan Ferguson, who if I remember rightly couldn't even begin to serve his 12 match ban for butting John McStay ( who defended Dunc in court, " he didn't really catch me m'lud) until he got out of jail. So even with this, we've still been more harshly treated then them.
Steve Pugh
550 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:05:55
Of Course, I hope that the FA take their share of the blame for this. If Suarez had been properly punished for all the other disgraceful acts he probably wouldn't have been on the pitch to bite anyone.
Phil Sammon
551 Posted 24/04/2013 at 20:57:32
It's been very interesting to see the difference in reactions between Liverpool and Everton fans over incidents involving their 'star' players.

Earlier in the year we witnessed a moment of madness from Fellaini. He was provoked, fouled and provoked some more and eventually snapped. There were a few comments about Shawcross deserving it, but the general consensus was that whatever ban came Fellaini's way would be fair. When all said and done, you cant headbutt a fellow player.

Conversely, over the park, you have a 'man', unprovoked, biting another player and that lot are disgusted at his ban. AND, the club itself also come out and express disappointment. Did they honestly expect a three game ban and nothing more to be said? It just shows the blinkered arrogance of the fans and the club.

If they had any grace they would have accepted WHATEVER the FA had given them and tendered a further, final apology.

He fucking BIT another player!

Kevin Tully
552 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:30:16
Apart from them now wanting all supporters to contact their M.P.'s, starting an online petition to try and get 100,000 signatures, and wanting to bring their OWN charges against the F.A. for racial discrimination - I think they are taking the news quite well.

Mark Frere
553 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:28:49
If it had been Daniel Sturridge biting someone, he would probably only get a 3 match ban. Rat boy only has his self to blame for his continual horrific behavior
Mark Frere
554 Posted 24/04/2013 at 21:53:13
Kevin Tully
I think the RS players will just wear T-shirts again supporting the rat faced twat! They've bitten off more then they can chew on this one
Danny Broderick
561 Posted 24/04/2013 at 22:48:55
We don't care what the red shite say, what the fuck do we care?
Ian Smitham
564 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:02:35
Danny and anyone else, have a look on Twitter at RAWK_meltdown, honest it is compulsive, he has just said that the three man FA committee was Evra Gill and Dementia (Ferguson)
Ian Smitham
567 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:17:06
Hope that the appeal fails and we get them away first game of next season.
Ian Smitham
568 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:18:37
I Ref games, interesting at half time on Monday night, a red fan said he knows that Suarez is a cunt, and went on to say that the trouble is that he is their cunt.
Peter Roberts
572 Posted 24/04/2013 at 23:51:33
Pablo Connelly #517

You're right, it was reported in the Daily Fail on Tuesday. I've got the link in an independent blog I wrote on the ban this evening:

http://refjustice.blogspot.co.uk/

Links at the end of the page...

Shows precisely what a role model footballers are viewed as, yet they show utter contempt for those of us who pay their wages week in, week out by their reprehensible behaviour.

Considering Ratboy had previous, I'm not surprised at the length of the ban, I'm more surprised at the guts the FA have had to punish him for longer.

Mark McDonald
573 Posted 25/04/2013 at 00:17:43
Chant for the derby for Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust".

"Suarez bites the Serb"
"Suarez bites the Serb"
"And gets a 10-match ban, a 10-match ban"
"Suarez bites the Serb"

Or change the last line to, "For biting the Serb"

Mark McDonald
575 Posted 25/04/2013 at 00:24:18
The three line should read: : "And gets a 10 match ban, a 10 match ban".

In my haste I misspelt it!

Phil Bellis
577 Posted 25/04/2013 at 01:06:51
Mark,
Doesn't seem to scan rhythmically
Could you hum it for me
Barry Earley
578 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:31:50
Chant for the derby has to be include their offside goal at Goodison as well as ratface's latest attempt at cannibalism

They thought they had scored
They thought they had scored
Stupid red shite
They thought they had scored

But his teeth were offside
His teeth were offside
Hannibal Lecter
His teeth were offside.

Tim Jones
583 Posted 25/04/2013 at 03:14:53
Do we know the Ref for the Derby yet? It will make little difference who is nominally wearing the black though the Ref is always Gerrard.
Phil Sammon
591 Posted 25/04/2013 at 06:29:43
Anyone else bored to tears by the Sloop John B tune yet? Every fucking song goes to that theme.
Barry Earley
600 Posted 25/04/2013 at 07:29:52
Is it true that the RS have changed their sirt sponsors for next season to OXO and the first new cube from oxo is a stock called laughing?
Ray Jacques
601 Posted 25/04/2013 at 07:45:33
Pls don't be getting excited and thinking that without suarez we are going to win the derby!!! Remember last season before the semi when Reina was sent off at Newcastle and then the reserve goalie was injured in the next game and we still managed to cock it up.

I may sound like a doom and gloom merchant but too many heartaches over the past 40 years are now ingrained whenever we play them and the worst is expected.

Michael Evans
605 Posted 25/04/2013 at 08:43:11
I'm happy to take the moral high ground with everyone else on this subject.

To bite a fellow human being is disgusting.

However, have we now reached a situation in football where we want to win at any cost ?

For example, if Suarez was offered to us would you take him ? Guaranteed 20+ goals a season and more to get a Champions League place.

Moral dilemma time ?

Patrick Murphy
607 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:02:25
No moral dilemma for me personally, couldn't watch Everton if someone with his behaviour played for us, that's the problem too many clubs think that the end justifies the means and as long as they are winning will tolerate actions which the ordinary person would be sacked for. It even extends to the law where depending on your status in life punishments meted out vary enormously.
Phil Sammon
610 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:17:32
Remember how embarrassed you were when Phil Neville dived?

When I went into work the following day I received no end of grief and had to take it all on the chin.

It's not for me. This great club has integrity and that's part of the reason I love it.

Brent Stephens
614 Posted 25/04/2013 at 09:57:37
I wouldn't have him. As Brenda said "no player is bigger than the club". Well, not until they think they don't want to lose him!
Daniel A Johnson
615 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:11:01
Latest News

Chelsea player Branislav Ivanovic refused entry into Switzerland to play Basel as he is suffering from Rabies!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel A Johnson
616 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:13:01
Liverpool

There is just something fundamentally rotten about the club.

There inability to take responsibility for anything is shocking.

Always a victim, never responsible, always arrogant, morally corrupt.

Kevin Day
627 Posted 25/04/2013 at 10:55:10
@ Michael Evans,

Quite simply no! I would not tolerate any player no matter how good they are tarnish the clubs image that I love, we have standards.

Ray Roche
628 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:18:21
Kevin Day@627.


Steady on, Kevin, Liverpool have standards as well. They're just not very high.

Phil Bellis
631 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:05:35
I support a club whose roots within the community are old and strong and whose values I was brought up to respect. Our hard men have been just that – like Johnny Morrissey, Jimmy Gabriel, Peter Reid, Dave Watson... Even Tony Kay, Big Dunc and Pat van den Hauwe were open about it.

A club whose supporters would send in recipes to help Alex Young's blistered feet; whose greatest ever player, despite appalling treatment and assaults from defenders, was never booked and only spoken to once by a referee who asked "would you like a peppermint, William?"; whose innovations and contributions to the development of football in this country are second to none; whose former staff and players, even those who just passed through, retain a genuine love and affection.

I was brought up on tales of Mercer, Dean, Lawton and saw Young, Wilson, Labone, the Trinity, Sheedy, Bracewell, McKenzie, Dobson et al. My era had great respect for other clubs' great players, Best, Bell, Moore, Charlton etc. I was taught that, for Everton, winning is not everything – you have to win with style; old-fashioned it may be, but nonetheless something many of us have witnessed and, as with our motto, still believe in.

I would not want a low-life like Suarez to sully all those wonderful memories – no matter what. Leave him where he belongs, at a club that is just a business now, so far from its roots and so fallen from grace that I'm embarrassed that it has anything to do with my City.

Brent Stephens
633 Posted 25/04/2013 at 11:51:48
Phil #631 Great post.

I'd forgotten about the Alex Young's blisters.

And "would you like a peppermint, William?" - creased me up.

Tony J Williams
634 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:08:49
I would have Suarez in our team in a heartbeat, absolute brilliant player, scumbag of the highest order but a class player.

He is the same as Cahill was for us, always winding up players (albeit, Suarez takes it to a whole different level).

I would love him in our team, the difference would be that I wouldn't think about defending him, the same way most of us didn't defend Fellaini, Pienaar or Pip when they did something stupid.

Phil Bellis
637 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:38:38
Takes all sorts, Tony J, you seem very contradictory, though
I don't subscribe to the Suarez "he's a nasty twat but he's our nasty twat" school
How the PFA and/or his fellow-players haven't done him is beyond me

Have a look at the YouTube comps of Suarez's previous and then come back and repeat "he is the same as Cahill"
Standards? un-fuckin-believable!
Peter Mills
640 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:57:54
Tim Cahill, a sporting hero to all of Australia, a player who would take a bad knock every game and not complain about it, a fine ambassador for his club, a gentleman and a role model for kids, mentioned in the same breath as Suarez.
No comment.
Michael Evans
642 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:48:12
Phil # 631 - that sums it up perfectly.

If you're prepared to sell your soul what's left ?

I'm from Shropshire and in the mid-80's went to see a pre-season friendly between Everton and Telford. at Telford (think we'd won the league previous season)

Sheedy took exception to a tackle from a Telford player. It wasn't malicious and just highlighted the lad's lack of skill/technique. Sheedy was ok but decided to meet out some payback - for a while it looked as if he'd broken the lad's leg. He hadn't but I think he had to go off.

Bottom line - it was nasty and unnecessary.

Peter Reid reaction was to give Sheedy a tongue lashing that we could hear (small non-league ground).

Funny how things stay in your mind for almost 30 years.

Maybe incidents like that show the difference between us and our 'neighbours'.

Bjψrn-Ivar Pedersen
643 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:07:24
I have enjoyed reading this thread, and I shall not add too much here, 'cos most things that can be said has been written here already......the little thing I am happy about is that in fact we now have a greater chance of playing the derby without risking getting players out injured for a long time with his ban.....

But there will still be a risk yes, 'cos unless also Gerrard has a ban, he is the same kind of shit like the rat.

Dave Roberts
647 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:48:03
There is a rump in the football 'meejah' who are decrying the 'unfairness' and 'hysteria' surrounding the aftermath of this incident and the FA's subsequent action in banning the ugly, venomous little git for ten games. The arguments are basically....' is a harmless bite worse than a leg breaking tackle?' 'Is it worse than racism for which he received a lesser ban?' 'The skin wasn't even broken on Ivanovic's arm' and the FA have picked on an easy victim...shame on them etc. etc.

But all the pricks are missing the point. There is a wholly different psychological and behavioural threshold to be crossed when you bite someone. It is primeval and basic....even primitive. Apart from something we learn to hold in our hands, our teeth are the most vicious weapon we have at our disposal and Suarez attempted to use his on the arm of somebody who had done nothing to him at all except take the ball off him. Toddlers bite other children out of unrestrained anger and frustration but even amongst children it is rare. Even for very young children the threshold is very difficult to cross and this is why it is taken so seriously in nurseries and schools when it occurs as it can be a symptom of severe emotional problems.

Suarez is not a toddler. He is an adult and a professional footballer with children of his own and yet this is at least the second occasion that he has chosen to bite an opposition player on the football pitch. This, together with many of his other behavioural problems, is a sign of a possible personality disorder.

He may well be a very good footballer as some have pointed out and leg breaking tackles are terrible in themselves, nobody is denying that but the very fact that there is a player out there who can resort to trying to bite an opponent in a ferret like manner out of anger and frustration is very worrying. Ten games, in light of this, is not excessive in my view. Some of the leg breakers we see today were acceptable in the game not that long ago and they are slowly, perhaps too slowly, being driven from the game. But biting in the ferocious animalistic manner in which Suarez has now done at least twice is of a completely different order even if it is highly unlikely it would put another player's career in jeopardy.

The images of this event that keep being replayed still make my skin crawl as they did on Sunday. This lad has major problems and if he is not careful, notwithstanding any injuries he could inflict upon some others, he may choose the wrong victim at some point and end up severely injured himself. Imagine him biting Pat van Den Hauwe or Roy Keane!!!

Kieran Fitzgerald
649 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:18:58
Suarez has carried Liverpool this season. They can't afford to lose him for this reason alone. He is the only thing that has stopped them from completely being average and a mid table side this season. However, is losing him worse than the negative media attention for blindly sticking up for him yet again. Liverpool don't think so, most others do.

I think from a financial point of view, they would not get top dollar for him at this stage. There would be clubs interested in him but they would highlight the baggage coming with him and look for a discount accordingly.

It may suit Liverpool best to hang on to him for another season. He can carry them again next season and once things have died down they can squeeze more out of a transfer fee next year.

If most fans and pundits are honest, they will tell you that they understand this approach completely. The bottom dollar in football is money and success. Suarez will deliver both if Liverpool handle him right.

It is all well to say that Utd automatically banned Cantona and took swift action for his kung fu kick. But they did so from a position of strength, star player or not. They were challenging for silverware and had a much stronger squad than Liverpool have now.

Dave Roberts
650 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:19:58
Oh and by the way....Tim Cahill was a pestering little bugger who set out to wind players up. But to mention him in the same breath as Suarez is ridiculous!
Ross Edwards
651 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:21:14
Tony J Williams

Comparing Tim Cahill to a diving, racist, cannibal scum like Sewer Rat is insulting and quite frankly laughable.
You sometimes accuse me of writing rubbish but yours really takes the biscuit.

No Everton player would even contemplate biting another professional footballer but for the same player to bite a player TWICE is disturbing and disgusting.

They should have given him a 5 month ban, as he has previous history, he has been racist previously, he cheats and dives every week and most importantly of all, he was completely UNPROVOKED by Ivanovic.

Danny Jones
652 Posted 25/04/2013 at 12:58:34
He's a great footballer but a dispicable human being. I hope that most Evertonians would not want to see someone like that in a blue shirt. I feel bad enough when I see any of our players diving. If we had him or someone like him I would not be as proud a blue as I am today.

When I see kids with his name on their shirts I question the morality of the parents. Then I remember what they are and simply shrug.

Brent Stephens
654 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:41:28
Dave #647 "Apart from something we learn to hold in our hands, our teeth are the most vicious weapon we have at our disposal". On first reading, I thought you meant holding our teeth in our hands! Then I realised you meant holding a weapon! Then I realised I'm probably getting close to having to hold my own teeth in my hands!
Richard Tarleton
655 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:41:56
Lyndon's right, there's been an awful lot of moralising crap talked about Suarez. He bit someone, a despicable act, but unless he has some dreadful disease, one that ultimately did less harm to the victim than 95% of the fouls that are committed in any match.

Suarez is obviously an over-competitive almost psychopathic personality, and Liverpool would be wise to avoid appeals etc, especially after the Evra incident, but they probably feel that unless they appeal they risk alienating a player whom they want to keep in their team.

All clubs have their moral blind spots, I still feel shame for the way we greeted the return of Duncan Ferguson when he returned after a gaol sentence for assault on another player. Not our finest hour, when we treated a criminal as a hero.

Phil Sammon
658 Posted 25/04/2013 at 13:55:21
Richard Charlatan

What are you talking about?!

It's nothing to do with the 'amount of injury' caused. It's the nature of what he's done. What goes through a persons head to actually bite someone unprovoked during a game of football?!

Probably the stupidest post of the day.

Colin Wainwright
659 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:10:48
I know he was charged with assault Richard and the sentence was probably linked to the amount of drunken scraps he got into as a young lad in Glasgow playing for Rangers, but look at the video again. Dunc hardly touched the lad.

Hardly a criminal, more a young lad out of his depth, in the goldfish bowl of Glaswegian football.

Patrick Murphy
661 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:15:33
Manassas high school College Football Team Coach Bill Courtney in the documentary 'Undefeated' said that Football (USA version) doesn't build character it reveals character

The film is worth a watch regardless of its subject matter.

Tony Marsh
663 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:26:15
After listening to the bleating of Kopites for the past few days with regards to the Suarez situation, I think some of them may have a point. The ban, wether it be 8,10 or 12 games, is not the reason for there outrage: it's the unbalanced and unfair penalties dished out by the FA.

Suarez is a creature no doubt but so to is John Terry yet Terry gets 4-match ban for being a racist, Suarez 8 games? Defoe bites an opponent, he gets a yellow card; Suarez 10-game ban?Wayne Rooney violent conduct gets a red card playing for England; FA go cap in hand begging Uefa to get the ban reduced. In fact, when ever Sky 4 players or Cockney Blue Eyed boys fuck up, the powers that be can't wait to help them out.

Liverpool fans are twats and I despise them but I do think Suarez has been hung out to dry a bit by the bent twats who run our game. RS fans I have spoke to would accept what Suarez gets if everyone else got dealt with in the same fashion...

I mean John Terry bottled a woman at 2:00am outside a night club and ends up Captain of Chelsea and England? Rio Ferdinand is a drugs cheat he ends up Captain of Man Utd and playing for his country...

It's a joke really and I don't think Suarez would be treated the same if he was English.

Kevin Tully
665 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:29:36
Ahhh.... so that's been the problem all along then:

Rodgers: "There's that little wire in his brain that sometimes acts differently. That's what we're trying to help."

Ray Roche
666 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:21:22
Richard Tarleton

If memory serves me Ferguson was reported by an off duty policeman, obviously someone with a grudge against Ferguson, for head butting another player. The player spoke FOR Ferguson in court. What would have been the reaction on here if Fellaini had been gaoled for butting Shawcross?

Arsewipes like Lawrenson and the cretins on Talksport were already calling for a 10-match ban for Fellaini after the Stoke game and were none too pleased at the usual 3-match ban he got. Try and remember how many other players have been gaoled for their actions on the field of play. And when you can come up with a suitable list, tell me who they are.

Like many lads on here, I played football for years in Liverpool and Welsh leagues, however, I have NEVER seen anyone bitten by another player. There were fights and punches, headbutts etc., galore but that was not unusual, you just got on with the game, if the ref missed it, and waited for your chance for retribution. But it all ended with a handshake or, rarely, some afters in the dressing room. Imagine the reaction from Suarez if HE'D been bitten...

Kevin Tully
667 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:30:53
Tony M, he has previous for the same offence, he had an 8 game ban last season, plus a further ban for giving the finger to Fulham fans and was warned about his conduct, he has publicly admitted diving, got off a 2 game ban for 10 yellow cards by 1 week - can you really say he does not deserve a 10 game ban?

His own club have admitted he needs psychiatric help FFS!

Patrick Murphy
668 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:27:18
Tony that's probably a fair point with regards the FA and it is to be hoped that they turn their attention to those players who continue to bring the game into disrepute and set a better example to players of all ages and nationalities.

The FA's and football's problem is that it has sold it's soul to the corporate world, and as such it always find's itself compromising its morals to ensure that the money keeps rolling in. That stance is evident with the silly kick off time for the Cup Final which doesn't signal that the fans of the clubs involved are of any importance to the FA.

A top ranking FIFA official said this week it was too difficult to stage the World Cup in Brazil as the country was too democratic and that for the WC in Russia it would be easier, which is very revealing and says how important ordinary folk are to the people who run sport and football in particular.

Maybe it's time for supporters to be more vocal about what they want the game to be and how they wish it to be governed otherwise the sponsors and corporates will just allow the game itself to suffer and keep taking the money.


Steve King
677 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:00:20
Unbelievable:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22295309

I just don't understand it!

If my kid bit someone in school I would expect him to be suspended, also I would punish him over and above anything they dished out. I'd react that way because he should know better...bear in mind I'm talking about an 8 year old kid here, not a grown man!!

I feel like i'm continuously repeating myself but how can they keep defending the indefensible??

John Gee
679 Posted 25/04/2013 at 14:48:04
Tony Marsh (663), John Terry's defence for his racism incident was that he was just repeating what he thought he heard, whereas Ratboy admitted using a racial slur over and over again. I think JT's defence was bollocks but it was accepted and his crime was seen as much less severe. Maybe you should remind the Kopites you're friendly with that JT went to court and Ratboy didn't. Surely that's biased.

Tony, you seem to be buying into all the redshite arguments here. This prick has been playing a cynical game for years and he's now, finally, got caught out. 10 games is very light considering his many transgressions that we witness weekly. How many goals has he scored or set up when he shouldn't even have been on the pitch? How many games have RS won when they should have been down to 10 men?

Ian and Brenda are trying to reduce the argument to this incident. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with that. It's not one incident, it's many incideants and it's a pattern of behaviour where a man crosses the line of what is acceptable time and time again. (Brenda is on TV now saying the he would like 5/6 more players like suarez!)

Liverpool and the media are spreading this argument that there are many worse things than biting someone and they are right. Kicking out, lashing out, raking studs, elbowing, kneeing, stamping and pushing can all be a lot more painful than a bite. But, you know what? Suarez has been doing all those things too but they're not mentioning that!

Patrick Murphy
681 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:10:07
From you link Steve Brenda says

'If I had more players of a similar mentality we would be in a different position. He has not let me down one bit. -

Silly me I thought all of his team had the same mentality. (to be fair I think he was talking about his competitive nature, but hey poetic licence)

Patrick Murphy
687 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:36:49
Ironic really isn't it ? the Daily Fail reports that :-

UEFA will offer a place in next season's Europa League competition to the top ranking club from each of the top three fairest European leagues.

England are currently fourth behind Norway, Sweden and Finland in the overall rankings, but have a month to make up the difference.

Liverpool are second behind Arsenal in the Premier League fair play table, but with the Gunners looking set to finish in fifth place at the very least, Brendan Rodgers' men would take the qualification place.

His side have 49 yellow cards and two reds this season, given to Daniel Agger and Jonjo Shelvey earlier in the campaign, but the fair play table also takes into account positive play, respect towards opponents and the referee and behaviour of team officials and public.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2314542/Luis-Suarez-return-competitive-action-Europa-League-July-Liverpools-placing-UEFA-fair-play-table.html#ixzz2RUBtWwUG

See that's why the referees never book them as often as they should do, his ban doesn't count against the club.

Alan Parry
689 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:44:34
Fellow Blues,

If anything the popularity of this thread and the clear manner in which it touches a nerve, highlights one thing more than ever. Evertonians wince when they see the antics of their neighbours.

In 1985, our club was denied its big chance after twice being stopped in its tracks during war times. 'You're just a bitter blue' is their constant retort to this. After all, what is 5 years of possible attempts at European supremacy? That's nothing compared to a 10-match ban for a cretin.

They are always far more hard done by than us. You couldn't make this up, you really couldn't. I am just merely observing them squirm now in the most classless predictable fashion because, as far as I am concerned, they reap what they sow.

Chris Owens
691 Posted 25/04/2013 at 15:44:28
Hilarious clip:
http://media1.sulia.com/static/user_images/96/2013-04-23/81d11910-b12b-41a1-ad67-d0dd9f079930
Brian Hill
711 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:15:00
It is all Ivanovic's fault for having his arm in the way of Luis's teeth. How dare anyone interfere with the desires of anyone connected to LFC? There should, and probably will, be a rule that grants them automatic entry into the "Champions" League, even if they are in the Conference.

Furthermore, no player of theirs should ever be penalised, Stevie G should give all decisions on the pitch (which isn't far from happening already), and their highly intelligent, literate supporters should have all blame for the events at Heysel completely expunged.

Tony J Williams
727 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:13:24
"Tony J Williams
Comparing Tim Cahill to a diving, racist, cannibal scum like Sewer Rat is insulting and quite frankly laughable.
You sometimes accuse me of writing rubbish but yours really takes the biscuit."

So Cahill didn't wind players up then? Of course he did!

I don't like Saurez, he is a scumbag but he would waltz into our side and make us a better team. The logical thinking states I would have him in the Royal Blue, no problem.

The comparison was that Cahill was hated by other teams fans because in the early days they knew how good he was and how he was always up for the big games, that is comparative to Suarez because he is a dirty, cheating wind up merchant but he gets the job done.....when he is not banned.

Tony Marsh
728 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:20:32
John Gee,

First off I suppose you don't know any Liverpool supporters?In this city, some families are split down the middle – you can't avoid speaking to them unless you live in another city... even then, you will find them.

Second, I am not defending Suarez; I am made up he is banned. I am making an observation about the shitbag FA who bend and change the rules when they see fit. Surely you are not daft enough to believe JT's defence or are you actually saying some are more racist than others??? If biting is a 10-game ban, well good but ban all gnasher merchants the same. What Suarez did in another country has nowt to do with our FA.
Mike Price
733 Posted 25/04/2013 at 17:35:13
The Rogers comments,like Dalglish before him, are planting seeds for the future. Suarez is a victim, the whole club are victimized so that future referees and the FA, are just that bit more wary of punishing them. Thing is, it often works.
Could some blue please take a banner to Anfield, amongst all their twattish banners, that just says : LFC, OUTRAGED AT EVERYTHING, ASHAMED OF NOTHING.
This club of honour and integrity bullshit should be exposed to the world, they're the most vile, entitled, arrogant and despicable club and supporters on earth.
Gary Poole
739 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:10:33
I really thought that the RS would have learnt lessons from last year's PR disaster which resulted in the sacking of Doglish.

Clearly I was giving them too much credit to believe that they could recover just a tiny bit of class that they may once have had.

They are truly breathtaking in their arrogance, victim status and a deranged belief that they can do no wrong.

RS fans - can you honestly say that ratboy has not let you down, not one bit.

The hypocrisy, immorality and total lack of any standards of decency from a so called world club is simply disgusting.

Jeez - I need a friggin lie down!

Steven Telford
750 Posted 25/04/2013 at 18:37:26
Come on guys, move on........ the REAL question here is how best can away supports wind him up from this next time he visits

For example, something like (not my idea I saw on facebook), a big replay screen projection of him wearing one of those upside down cone dog collars.

And/or syncronised putting on of Hannibal lector masks. Imagine across the whole stand.

Marks for creativity and thinking out side the box.
When (Brazilian) Ronaldo (playing for santos) got caught with those trannies, for his away game at flamengo, the supporters hired a bunch of trannies go sing for him during the whole game

Damian Kelly
758 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:15:03
So Suarez chooses to bite someone and only gets a 10 match ban. 15 godolphin horses get injected with steroids (that they had no choice in) and they get banned for 6 months. Same teeth different verdict. Where is the consistency?
#justiceforthe15
Patrick Murphy
764 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:34:26
Damian that made me laugh out loud! Get some T-shirts for Saturday.
Colin Glassar
766 Posted 25/04/2013 at 19:35:51
Lfc, and most of their fans, have no sense of shame. They believe they are above the law and they are always the victims. I'd have banned him for an entire season. And if Rodgers keeps gobbing off I'd hit them with a multi million pound fine as well.
Brian Abbott
790 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:27:03
I've been right through this and there are loads of really good points. That Suarez is borderline criminal is beyond doubt. I only wish the victim of this shitehound had made a criminal case against him.

Two posts made me smile though.

Dave at #647 — "Where the hell would they have found Suarez's head if he had done this to Pat van den Hauwe???" Row Z perhaps and problem solved.

Ray at #666. "How would Suarez have reacted if someone bit him?" Now that would have been so funny that the stadium would have gone into spasm.

Both scenarios are so funny it makes you realise this little arsewipe should not be tolerated. 10-match ban??? Why not just sack him. Any other employee in any other situation would no longer be employed. Tell me I'm wrong... (Unlesss you're a professional nibbler!!)

Andy Crooks
797 Posted 25/04/2013 at 20:42:24
When Rodgers joined Liverpool I posted that I admired him. It seems that any integrity he had has been drained from him by Liverpool.FC, I listened to him on the radio today and was so outraged by his comments that I actually nearly crashed my car. I now have utter contempt for him. He is a worthy manager of that disgusting club.
Mike Green
805 Posted 25/04/2013 at 21:11:41
It's quite simple - Liverpool are now clearly filling their pants that he's had enough and is off, which is probably what he's said behind closed doors to them today. They are therefore making a big to-do about supporting him to the hilt to illustrate to him that him playing for them means more than anything else. And if Rodgers kept referring to me as 'the boy' I'd probably.... I don't know... bite him! Arrogant so and so :)
Paul Meehan
821 Posted 25/04/2013 at 22:47:04
The 7-game ban for the same offence when at Ajax obviously hasn't deterred him, so if 7 wasn't enough, why would anyone in his right mind think 3 would be? Let it double each time until the stupid pratt gets it.
Mick Fleming
825 Posted 25/04/2013 at 23:07:08
Brenda's latest comments have just confirmed the exact opposite of what he said after the biting incident. A player (Suarez) is really bigger than the club. Any other player would have been hounded out of the club.

No moral compass whatsoever, vile club with vile fans, world take note.

Patrick Murphy
277 Posted 28/04/2013 at 01:34:48
There's an old adage that says that there is no such thing as bad publicity, I was just scanning the BBC Ceefax or whatever it's called these days and among all the news headlines this one caught my eye -'Newcastle 0 Liverpool 6' now forgive me if I'm wrong but since when has a PL score been newsworthy away from the sports section?

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