Martinez unmoved by Fellaini talk

by | 09/06/2013

Release clause 'is not an issue'

Roberto Martinez has dismissed talk of Marouane Fellaini leaving Everton this summer as media speculation increases regarding the Belgian's future. The new Blues boss is not planning any urgent talks with the 25-year-old as he doesn't believe he is looking to leave Goodison Park this summer.

Reports on Friday suggested that Fellaini was the subject of an imminent £24m bid from Arsenal that would activate the release clause in his contract.

Even though sources close to Everton suggest that the clause inserted in his most recent contract stipulates a higher figure than the one quoted in the press, Martinez appears non-plussed.

"I don't think it is an issue," the Spaniard said in quotes attributed to him by Sky Sports News.

"You are not talking about a player who is out of the squad or in negotiations with another club. I won't look to speak to him about this because there is nothing to speak about.

"What I want is him to be ready for the next season, to be ready to take an important role at the club and understand that it is a big season for him," Martinez continued.

"As an individual, he has got an exciting year in front of him and I don't think he is personally thinking, 'Am I going to be here?' I don't think that's in his head."

Fellaini has made no secret of his desire to play in the Champions League but he appears relaxed about his future and happy enough at Everton for the time being.  

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Paul Andrews
444 Posted 09/06/2013 at 08:34:15
That should bring a statement from Mr Chairman reminding potential buyers about the contract clause.
Mark Tanton
445 Posted 09/06/2013 at 08:40:11
I can't help but hope he moves on to be honest - How will Martinez be able to build the squad in his own image without our periodical sacraficial cash cow?

Should we really be desperate to keep a player who blows hot and cold, and whom forever seems one tussle away from a red card? Flog him, and rebuild is what I say.

Kevin McKenna
450 Posted 09/06/2013 at 08:49:15
Mark (#445)

I couldn't agree more
Thomas Windsor
459 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:13:09
I think he will go and that's all the money Martinez will be given.

Welcome to the world of Bungalow Bill.
Mike McLoughlin
467 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:34:46
I agree wholeheartedly with Mark. Get a good wedge for him and buy a few ore players. Boost the squad
Paul Ellam
470 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:39:10
It all depends what money Martinez will have at his disposal.
If he is going to have quite a bit of cash to spend (Jan funds plus TV cash) then we may get away without selling Fellaini but if the money being shown to him is a pittance (it shouldn't be!) then I think Fellaini will have to be sold to bring in more players.
I reckon with the sale of Fellaini we could get the likes of Lescott, Fer and Soldado/Negredo for a similar value and I think that would be a good deal for us.
Ste Henderson
475 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:48:36
You don't sell your best players, he is a great player.

Where would Spurs be without Bale? Villa without Benteke?? The RedShite without Ray Boy???

I for one hope we keep him

Andrew Bone
477 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:03:25
What was this TV interview that is rumoured to suggest that Mirallas wants to leave? is there any mileage in it? I seriously hope not as I think he could be an integral part to any success next season if he stays injury free.
Steve Guy
478 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:00:55
I can't understand this willingness to off load Fellaini. His poor games have been few and we are a much better side with him in it. Why do you think he is now coveted by top teams in GB and Europe ? He is a key figure for Belgium too, a team who will probably finish in one of the top 4 placing a at next years World Cup.

Yes, we can get £22m plus for him and I have no doubt we could get some good players for that. However it's masking the problem. The Board should be making a statement by making every effort to keep all our best players AND provide the funds for more. We are a top six side now and should start acting like one. NSNO

Drew Shortis
485 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:04:25
I would prefer to keep Fellaini and see how he plays under his new manager. Perhaps Martinez will play him in his preferred role and get a more consistent performance from him. Finding players of his quality is not easy on our budget and we should be doing everything we can to keep the likes of Felli and Baines. He will still be valuable in January or next summer if things don't work out.

If Martinez has some of the funds from last January, some TV money, funds from the sale of Heitinga (if he goes) and some surplus cash available from the wages we have saved he can still bring in several players. There are some good free agents to boost the squad size and no doubt Martinez has some talented youngsters on his radar. If you factor in RM giving Barkley and some of the other young players a chance I think its possible to get enough numbers into the squad without the need to sell our best players. I'm also hopeful he will be able to rejuvenate Jelavic.

If Fellaini decides he wants to go there isn't a lot we can do to prevent it, but the silver lining to that cloud would be a large transfer fund for Martinez to replace him with. Either way we should be in good shape. I just hope this doesn't become a saga like Lescott's transfer that will distract from our preparations for next season. If he does want out get it done quick.

Geoff Freeman
486 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:23:55
What a calm and measured response from our manager to reports of selling
Fellaini. Makes Fellaini feel wanted and no blame on us if he insists on leaving.

If he goes and Martines gets the fee to spend on new players + gets the team
playing half as well as talks to the media top four no problem

John Shepherd
499 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:01:59
I have said in the past that we should look at selling to generate funds — but that was when we never bought a player for 2½ years. We should be in a position not to sell our best player(s) and should be comfy in adding to the squad with talent and not fringe players.

The mere fact that BK openly mentioned a release clause on Fellaini set the alarm bells ringing... so, with that in mind, it is clear (to me) that's where RM's biggest slice of money is going to come from. Hopefully I'm wrong and we will add with our own big signing of a new striker, right winger and a playmaker (and not one player who can do all three); then I'll be happy.

Drew Shortis
501 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:28:55
Andrew Bone 477
The Mirallas interview was a bit of a non-story in my humble opinion. The interviewer was asking him about Martinez and Kev said he spoke spanish and his father is from there. This naturally led the interviewer to ask if Kev would like to play in Spain to which he replied yes, perhaps next season. But he also asid how much he liked playing for Everton and in the Prem. I wish players would engage their brains before making these kind of comments, but I don't think there is anything to worry about there.

With the Fellaini rumour, the Mail has reportedly moved on and is now saying Wenger will splash the cash on Ilkay Gundogan and Bayer Leverkusen’s Lars Bender! Who knows what is true or not! Whatever sells papers I suppose.

Brian Waring
503 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:32:09
Steve (#478) Why do you think he is now coveted by top teams in GB and Europe ?

That's the funny thing Steve, apart from the media linking Fellaini with all and sundry, no one has made any bids, or officially came out and said they wanted him.

Michael Parrington
511 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:50:53
I can't understand why we think that Everton is different to any other club.

Man Utd won the league last year an Rooney, Nani and Evra are being touted as leaving them.

Fellaini, Baines etc are quality players that any team would be interested in. The papers will always try to stir the shit with this type of article.

If Martinez can hold on to both it will be great.

Jamie Barlow
515 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:58:42
Keep your best players and sell your shite. I can't get my head around selling Fellaini. It makes no sense.
James Martin
518 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:11:22
To be honest I think towards the end of last season he was playing better just in front of Gibson than he had ever done upfront when he was getting all the media adulation earlier in the campaign. (Those who know my feelings on him will realise how much effort it took to choke that out)

I think it's all about the balance of the first 11 depending on the opposition. If we have quality forward players in the wide areas and upfront with pace then I think Fellaini's limited passing range is reconciled by his good ball winning and defensive work as he can just give it to someone like Mirallas or Pienaar and they can do the complicated stuff.

When we haven't got these players however then I don't think Fellaini gives you that required creativity which is why I think Osman often got the nod alongside the holding mid as his technique and passing ability opens up chances through the middle when they're not coming from outwide.

Ultimately it would be great in my opinion if Martinez could rotate the squad (although I know its too small to ever manage this) into some sort of home and away formula. Players like Osman and Pienaar in against the lesser sides at home looking to park the bus. Players like Fellaini, Barkley Oviedo, in against the physical sides away from home in order to play on the counter. Last season Moyes's formation relied far too much on Baines Osman and Pienaar creating stuff for the forward players and didn't really utilise Fellaini's strengths properly. It worked well at the beginning of the season but in the middle they all dipped in form as fatigue set in and the team just didn't work. Also you're never going to win many away games like this as you just can't dominate the ball at away grounds and play tappy tappy round the edge of an opponents box.

As for Fellaini if he stays and is used properly (not holding mid, not behind the stirker, but as some sort of pressing ball winning presence between the two) then I don't mind. If he goes and Martinez buys the new Arteta then even better.

Matt Traynor
521 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:25:08
Paul #470, I think to constantly refer to the "Fer Money", "Funds from Jan" etc as being available is wide of the mark. Remember, the Vibrac loans were secured against the TV monies that are payable in August and January. If I recall correctly there's 2 years worth (or their was), so next seasons August/January TV payments have already been borrowed against (albeit at the lower value than we will receive).

The reason the Fer deal didn't happen was we didn't have enough cash for an up-front payment, which FC Twente wanted. Their Chairman was Whelan-esque in his briefing of the media about what the real problem was. The knee was just another smokescreen put about by EFC - the lad never missed a game after that.

Drew Shortis
538 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:48:10
James Martin
I like the idea of rotating personnel to suit the game. Moyes always put out a solid team that was hard to beat, but he didn't experiment enough for my liking. This is why we need a bigger squad, not just to cover when the first eleven get injured, but to allow some tactical flexibility and also allow key players a rest.

Matt Traynor
That sounds like the most realistic assessment of the financial situation I have heard so far. Thanks for the insight. Better to be prepared for reality that to carry on with sky high expectations and be disappointed. Martinez is still going to have to work under relatively tight financial constraints, but that is one of his strengths so no need to panic.

Kevin Tully
543 Posted 09/06/2013 at 14:13:31
For me, the best signing of the summer would be if Bainesy signed a new 4 year deal.
Mark Frere
547 Posted 09/06/2013 at 14:22:20
I think its a mistake on Martinez's part when he says:

"You are not talking about a player who is out of the squad or in negotiations with another club. I won't look to speak to him about this because there is nothing to speak about.

I think Martinez needs to have a good conversation with Fellaini about his future intentions, so Martinez will know what budget he has to spend early doors and then Martinez can identify his transfer targets nice and early.

I would hate Fellaini to be sold last minute without leaving us time to do our own transfer business.

Let's get everything sorted early doors and bed our new additions into pre-season.

Colin Glassar
552 Posted 09/06/2013 at 15:17:13
Mark, I think Martinez will have or have had that talk with Fellaini. These are internal matters and I think there is probably a willingness on both sides for the big man to give us another season to see if we can break into the top 4. Even though someone activates the buy-out clause, if neither the player or the club want a change, he stays.
Mike Green
572 Posted 09/06/2013 at 16:20:12
I've always rated Fellaini, and when he is on his game, particularly now he's matured physically, he's definitely one of the best midfielders in the league.

But why do we see it only four or five times a season? Is it him, or was it Moyes, or not enough quality around him, or was it being sacrificed to take one for the team? Don't know.

As such, he's a bit of a luxury, and one we can afford to let go for £24m in my opinion. I reckon Martinez could probably rebuild a whole team with that, so let him spread it over three players and we'd be a much better team all round for it, which is why I'd take it tomorrow.

I wouldn't have felt the same under Moyes as I'd think he'd just have invested it in another two centre halves...

Tony Dove
578 Posted 09/06/2013 at 16:56:28
Hopefully with the Martinez influence Barkley will be be worth more than
Fellaini in a couple of years time but it would be better to have them both.
If we could get Rodwell and Joleon back [for Baines] the top 4 would be a shoe in.
Mark Pierpoint
584 Posted 09/06/2013 at 17:37:28
are you being serious Tony? You would want Rodwell back? He is still always injured? And you would seriously want Lescott, a centre back, to replace the younger, better Leighton Baines? Madness.
Ross Edwards
585 Posted 09/06/2013 at 17:52:13
Lescott, now 31?
AND JACK RODWELL, BACK?????

My God, I'm glad you're not the manager Tony. Would you want Dan Gosling and Shandy back as well?

Tony Marsh
589 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:07:25
Tony, why would RM want Rodwell or Lescott? — he has no affiliation to these players Who would pay the massive salaries they are now both on? What way could Lescott improve our team 4 years after he left when we already had the best of him? You ain't thought this one through, mate.

As for Fellaini ,we need to realise that market forces will dictate if he leaves or not. If a bigger club comes in, triggering his get-out clause, and offers him Champions League footy and a massive pay rise, then what would you suggest he does? It's Goodbye Everton and that's that. We will get good money back on him and, if Johnny H leaves as well, Roberto will have a decent war chest to work with. Maybe 3 or 4 decent players coming in...

I am still scratching my head as to who it was re-signed Osman though. It sure wasn't the new guy and I can't see Ozzie getting a look-in anymore... Very strange one that.

Tony Dove
612 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:50:42
Hi Mark and Ross.Depressing.Rodwell is going to be a great player and Lescott would replace Distin not Baines.We have to juggle with resources
and I felt we would be better off overall with those changes,particularly as we might get a good deal on the two players from City and now is the best time to cash in on Baines.I presume you also don't rate Barkley. Gosling and Shandy are as relevant to the arguement as Brett Angel.
Roger Helm
643 Posted 09/06/2013 at 20:57:44
The reason Moyes didn't rotate much was because there was not enough quality on the bench (apart from Barkley, who suffered from DM's obsession with playing Osman) to rotate with.

I remember often looking at the subs and thinking blimey, what's plan B with that lot. I favour keeping Baines and Fellaini, if possible, clearing out the dead wood and recruiting more quality - I reckon RM has his head screwed on when it comes to finding cheapish talent.

Gavin Ramejkis
648 Posted 09/06/2013 at 21:22:13
Roger a little bit blinkered there, Heitinga has a mare game after game and not a sign of dropping him for Duffy - we'll never know how that would have gone, Neville stinking the place out and not a sign of him being dropped for Barkley - we'll never know how that would have gone, Osman having a fair few shite games and not a sign of Barkley, Osman gets injured and Barkley has a good game against Arsenal very nearly scoring then its normal service resumed the week after - we did see what happened there. Jelavic couldnt score in a brothel week in week out and takes an eternity to be dropped and no sign of Velios or even McAleny = we'll never know how that would have gone, do you see a pattern? Players simply don't improve sat on a bench or rotting in some half arsed league, they need to play, they need to make mistakes, they need to learn, they need to improve.
Scott Bosworth
650 Posted 09/06/2013 at 21:35:02
I hope he stays. Partly because I have a man-crush on him, but mostly because I like having a world class player or two (or three or four) at Everton.
Paul Ferry
720 Posted 10/06/2013 at 04:18:28
In my view, at any rate, the most vital thing this coming summer is to sell this head-butting, elbow-blasting risky costly liability for max quids,

Two or three or four incoming for his fee will make us a better team by a mile.

Felli is not that special. We will be better without him. I trust RM to splash the cash – cripes if he gets it all – to make us better.

Liam Reilly
729 Posted 10/06/2013 at 07:06:46
Tony #589

Resigning Osman for once does makes sense. If RM doesn't rate him, a current England International would command a decent fee from some of our premier rivals, because of his contract length.

For once, a correct decision.

Brian Lawlor
733 Posted 10/06/2013 at 08:01:05
I see after reviewing all of his job offers from many top European clubs, Vitor Pereira has jointed the mighty Ah Ahli of Saudia Arabia.

Thank god Kenwright didn't listen to all those people clambering for the ex-amateur footballer turned assistant turned manager (for only 2 years).

Barry Lightfoot
760 Posted 10/06/2013 at 11:01:13
I remember when Howard Kendall sold Beardsley, who was still a great player and blew the money on absolute cack. Keep your best players and he is our best.
Denis Richardson
774 Posted 10/06/2013 at 13:31:00
Not sure if this is really news worthy or if there's anything to discuss. If a CL club triggers the get out clause or Fellaini says he wants a transfer, then he'll be gone and there's not much we can do about it. Then we can discuss how to spend the cash we get. Until that happens he's going to stay at GP and if he's played in defensive midfield and Martinez builds our midfield around him then I'll be fine with that.

I just don't want him playing in the No 10 role as it leads to hoof ball football and we lose presence in the midfield. Also he says he prefers playing defensive midfield so let him play where he's more comfortable playing. A fit GIbson and Fellaini in the middle will be a match for any team in the league.

Graham Holliday
864 Posted 10/06/2013 at 22:14:52
Good article on Martinez's Wigan system and how it might be applied to us here: http://www.eplindex.com/32099/what-would-aroberto-martinez-everton-look-like.html
Mike Green
874 Posted 10/06/2013 at 22:19:48
Thanks for picking that out Graham, the final paragraph makes particularly good reading..... (bearing in mind also that this was written before Martinez was made manager)

"I’m optimistic for Everton’s future and Moyes has left Everton with a fantastic squad of players who could quite possibly challenge for the fourth spot over the next few seasons with only a few new additions – and perhaps Martinez’s playing philosophy is the single biggest new addition that could change everything."

Nice!

Douglas Turner
876 Posted 10/06/2013 at 22:48:23
Here's a link that cheered me up about our new Boss and his future intentions ...http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/319401
Tony Farrell
899 Posted 10/06/2013 at 23:20:59
In an ideal world, we would keep Fellaini and Baines and add more quality to the squad. But the cold facts are we all know how our club works. The money promised to Bob Martin won't be anything like what he or us wants.

It wont be long before we hear from Fellaini's old fella telling the football world how great his son is (true) and that every top flight club in Europe wants him, and he can do better away from Everton (also true). The only way he or Baines will stay is if Bob and our ancient board can convince these players that there is a bright future and funds will be available for more quality players (I've just had a great dream... reality time now).

Fellaini will go; Baines hopefully will stay. If we can get as much as possible for Fellaini, bring in two top midfielders, another striker and central defender, in my opinion, I think this season could be very interesting We can rest assured Bob will play two up top... let's hope it's the right two.

Paul Andrews
915 Posted 11/06/2013 at 07:30:57
Fellaini or £24 million?
Taxi!!
Douglas Turner
168 Posted 12/06/2013 at 09:00:41
Fellaini seen in an Arsenal top hoax or not?... http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/06/09/image-marouane-fellaini-pictured-wearing-arsenal-kit-as-speculation-over-gunners-move-grows/
Kieran Fitzgerald
391 Posted 13/06/2013 at 11:38:01
Apparently Wenger is unsure as to whether the 23m buy out clause for Felliani is justified.

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