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Return to France on the cards for Gueye

03/01/2013 | Comments (47)
Everton fringe player Magaye Gueye could leave Goodison Park this month and return to France, with a number of League 1 sides said to be monitoring his situation.

A 3m (~2.4m) move to Lyon has been rumoured by Twitter accounts citing "French news sources".

The French U21 international signed for Everton two years ago for around 900,000 but has struggled to break into Everton's first team over the last couple of seasons, has been squeezed out further by the arrival of Bryan Oviedo and could be eyeing regular football elsewhere.

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Tom Winek
984 Posted 03/01/2013 at 19:49:54
3 million. Yes please.
Shane Corcoran
986 Posted 03/01/2013 at 19:50:30
I was lost at 3m. Maybe the decimal point is missing.
Patrick Murphy
988 Posted 03/01/2013 at 19:52:41
Don't be silly Shane we won't get 30 million for him ):
Si Cooper
993 Posted 03/01/2013 at 19:59:50
For all those crowing, any (realistic) suggestions as to how we replace him?

I don't have the highest opinion of his abilities either but we sill still require someone to come in if we have an injury crisis.

Mark Nuttall
000 Posted 03/01/2013 at 20:15:37
I will drive him to the airport!
Bargain at 3 million personally.
Matty Dawkins
006 Posted 03/01/2013 at 20:29:38
I'd rather he played than Naismith.
Glen Anderson
011 Posted 03/01/2013 at 20:39:21
Not worth 2.4m. If someone offers it we should bite their hands off.
Barry White
019 Posted 03/01/2013 at 20:54:36
2.4 million yes please! One good assist in the FA Cup game at Sunderland and that's about it.
Paul Ellam
023 Posted 03/01/2013 at 21:02:45
I agree with most of the above 3 million would be a real coup.
Graham Pearce
030 Posted 03/01/2013 at 20:49:47
Thank you and goodbye if any truth in this. I would take anything of 1.5M or above... however, Everton should keep adopting this policy and cycle players for profit. Best example of this is Beckford.

Who to replace him? Are we really going to miss him. If we have to drop Barkley from the matchday squad to have Gueye in then like v Newcastle he's holding Barkley and hopefully Green back. Take the money and sell up.
Edward Simpson
032 Posted 03/01/2013 at 21:18:59
I feel sorry for the lad, as he is a really nice guy. He does lack pace but he hasn't done enough to impress anyone. I would've liked to see him play this season but if we can sell him for a good price, that money could be used to get someone we actually need.

Oviedo is more than capable of covering for Pienaar and Baines, so it looks like Gueye isn't needed. Look at his apps this season for a hint.

Colin Glassar
033 Posted 03/01/2013 at 21:24:07
Sell him and Heitinga and get some decent players in.
Denis Richardson
044 Posted 03/01/2013 at 21:34:33
2.4M? is that us receiving or paying them to take him away?
Jon Ferguson
054 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:00:42
'Twitter accounts citing French news sources', says it all. The only thing that would make it less likely is if the Daily Mail pick it up and run with it.
Stuart Eaton
057 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:20:18
Is everyone still keen on this Vadis lad, Club Brugge landed in Malaga today and I live 10 mins from were they are training. will get some spying done on him and report back.
James Stewart
058 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:22:03
Great business to get any fee for him!
Vijay Nair
062 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:20:49
Anyone remember how much we paid for him?

The lad has had flashes of brilliance (and I use that term liberally), but he's not good enough for our team at the moment unfortunately. We have to be wary of squad numbers though, as we are paper thin as it is.

Brent Stephens
066 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:28:50
Stuart, can you draft a contract and get him to sign it under the impression that you're just seeking his autograph?!
Stuart Eaton
068 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:34:05
Will try to Brent as I don't see Gibson coming back anytime soon and he looks a similar player to him.
Anthony Jaras
080 Posted 03/01/2013 at 22:51:08
Moyes bought Gibson for half a million.

If we sold Gueye for 2m, Moyes would bring in another gem I feel.

We have Pienaar, Oviedo, Osman, Mirallas, Anichebe and Coleman for the wings if needed. No big deal if Gueye goes and brings in much needed funds.

Stuart Eaton
083 Posted 03/01/2013 at 23:05:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8UC6639V4 we need this Vadis guy!
Anthony Jaras
088 Posted 03/01/2013 at 23:23:34
We bought him for 1m Vijay.

I'd sign Hitz until the end of the season and make it a priority to bring in Vadis on loan.

Sell Heitinga for at least 4m too if possible.

Ole Martin Kolberg
107 Posted 04/01/2013 at 00:36:19
Did we Get Gibson for half a mill? (#080)
Andy Meighan
140 Posted 04/01/2013 at 06:35:17
I hope this is true: 3 mil for him. One of the worst players ever under Moyes's tenure: no pace, can't cross a ball, can't hit a ball, and couldn't trap a mouse with a ton of cheese; absolutely shit It would be the best bit of business ever if it were true.
Thomas Surgenor
154 Posted 04/01/2013 at 09:37:18
Wasn't he our ''secret weapon''???

What will we do now to surprise the opposition!!
Peter Bradshaw
155 Posted 04/01/2013 at 09:38:18
I have heard that Heitinga is replacing Collocini at The Toon, price of around 4.5 million. Has anyone heard anything else?

Gueye 2.4 million, bite their arm off....

Anthony Jaras
156 Posted 04/01/2013 at 09:42:06
Yes, Ole.
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/13/everton-darron-gibson-manchester-united
Sam Hoare
158 Posted 04/01/2013 at 09:51:22
Seen Gueye a few times in the reserves where he has looked useful in the middle of the park, dare I say he looked much more comfortable than Barkley who really may not be all that he has been built up to be.

If there is a 2.4m offer than than seems good value for someone who's hardly played for us and Moyes does not seem to have huge faith in.

A bit depressing when you think we probably need to make around 5m a season net from player sales to keep from going under.

Geoff Trenner
159 Posted 04/01/2013 at 09:54:21
Thomas @154. I think that Gueye was our 'nuclear deterrent' an option that you hope that you never have to use.
Dan McKie
169 Posted 04/01/2013 at 10:23:30
He's a striker that Moyes plays on the left wing, so it will be hard for him to ever look that good here (if he even is any good), just like Naismith is struggling wide right, just like Osman wide right against Wigan before moving into his natural position and changing the game in the 2nd half. Moyes loves to have at least 2 or 3 square pegs in round holes each game.
Steve Brown
173 Posted 04/01/2013 at 10:47:01
Shurely shome mistake..
Jimmy Kelly
189 Posted 04/01/2013 at 12:14:20
Does he 'love' it Dan? Or does he do it to try to make the most of what's available?

I can't imagine that it's something he's determined to do no matter who he has available.

Anthony Jaras
195 Posted 04/01/2013 at 12:56:12
We are doing quite well considering Moyes is tactically inept and has OCD with his positional selections really arn't we?
Mike Rourke
198 Posted 04/01/2013 at 13:14:36
I'm led to believe that Wembley Stadium has spent around 3million in detergent trying to get rid of the stink he left down there after 'that' semi-final.
Anthony Jaras
212 Posted 04/01/2013 at 13:48:04
Still, fifth in the league. Some of us are very, very unrealistic about and ungrateful for where we are on the pitch and in the league.
Joel Jones
222 Posted 04/01/2013 at 14:13:52
Can I just chip in with my tuppence please?

He's 22-23 now, I believe, been here for three years and has yet to play 2-3 games back to back. It's hard to judge the guy on this basis surely. I mean he must show in training what he can do. Also he's guilty of 'left foot syndrome', you know where we take a look at his preferred foot and shove him out wide. It is also worth noting that he's not once played in his preferred position through the middle, just off the front man.

I'd like to see the lad loaned out to a Championship side or even a Wigan-esque club, get a run and then judge him. His confidence must be shot, I mean the 'fans' don't help, on his case if he doesn't perform as well as Pienaar, which let's be fair are big shoes to fill.

I think a lot of these points can be attributed to Naismith also, he's getting stick from all angles and whilst he may look off the pace etc... he is also asking to fill a position that isn't his strongest, being asked to defend more than attack, which must be frustrating for a forward. After two years out the game and then immediately stepping up in class with a different league he's going to look off the boil.

Personally I'd rather judge Naismith this time next year... and Magaye too!
Jimmy Kelly
245 Posted 04/01/2013 at 15:13:56
One thing I do find bizarre with regards to players being sent on loan is that many people on here seem to think we can just use whoever we want as a feeder club.

We've always got people saying send him to the Championship and in this case even other Premiership teams(!) without anyone seeming to wonder whether any of these teams would actually want him, or whether they would want him on the same conditions that we would let him go (% of wages paid, length of loan, recall clauses etc).

Joel Jones
253 Posted 04/01/2013 at 15:44:38
Jimmy, I see your point, but please re-read my post, I said i'd like to see him loaned, i'm not naive enough to suggest we can just pick a club and make them take him, but at the same time, is he available for loan?

I mean surely there's clubs out there looking for a former French U21 forward who needs game time to develop? So maybe Moyes won't allow him to leave and wants him to develop with ourselves?
Peter Jones
416 Posted 04/01/2013 at 23:17:19
Si, with regards to replacing Gueye, I like these rumours of a Scott Sinclair loan deal. Not only is he a replacement, he's a proven premier league player that you can trust to make an impact on games consistently when given a run. No longer would we have Naismith out there masquerading as a winger when Mirallas is hurt. In my perfect January, we'd sell Heitinga, buy Forren, and then pick up Ofoe and Sinclair on loan with a view to a permanent move. I figure that's about as much wheeling and dealing as we can do with our budget.
Si Cooper
422 Posted 04/01/2013 at 23:42:53
Peter (#416) - would be nice if it were to happen but I don't think Sinclair will be loaned with an option to buy. If City decide not to hold onto him long-term they will sell him to the highest bidder which probably won't be us.

We have a very small squad and we obviously can't fill it with high cost / high earning superstars. Like it or not people have to be realistic and understand that our squad will be padded out with low-cost journeyman players for the foreseeable future. we got him cheap (relatively) and he won't be a high earner.

Haven't been overly impressed with Gueye's performances so far (looked fairly good first half against Norwich at Goodison last season) but some of the comments on here have been overly insulting. If the money can be invested wisely then that will be good for the club; if the next recruit flops we will be no better off. Either way, denigrating someone who doesn't seem to have done anything but try his best benefits nobody.

Matt Traynor
429 Posted 05/01/2013 at 00:02:10
Peter #416, to reinforce what Si says in #422, Sinclair was signed by City as a replacement for Adam Johnson. City wanted to "pad" out their squad with a few young English players to balance the squad given they also pack it with highly-paid foreign stars. Our own Rodwell was part of this strategy. Sinclair replaced a squad player, who wanted to move on as he felt he should be a starter (no-one else did).

It was actually the situation with Johnson, and the recruitment of Rodwell that prompted Hodgson to make his comment about potentially having starters in the England team that were not starters for their clubs.

I doubt Mancini will let him go on loan, but even if he were to, I doubt there would be any option on making it permanent.

Jimmy Kelly
545 Posted 05/01/2013 at 12:37:18
Sorry Joel, it wan't a comment aimed specifically at you.

I just see it all the time with our younger players, with people saying 'just get him out on loan', 'why haven't they sent him on loan' etc when it's not quite that simple. Look at when we did send Shane Duffy to Burnley for example, and he came back with his tail between his legs having hardly kicked a ball. Was that good for his development?

John Crawley
551 Posted 05/01/2013 at 13:25:17
Joel 222 - good post and I agree with everything that you have said. Big problem here is Moyes's poor track record with developing young players which is mainly a result of his overly cautious approach and his almost total belief in experience over developing talent.
Nick Armitage
615 Posted 05/01/2013 at 19:02:42
Sell him. I reckon Phil Neville would be a better bet out wide.
John Feeley
617 Posted 05/01/2013 at 19:24:42
He's terrible; get rid, whether there's a fee available or not.
John Feeley
618 Posted 05/01/2013 at 19:31:13
Love Mike Rourke's comment. I was actually more upset with Gueye than Distin that day...
Lee Flanaghan
776 Posted 06/01/2013 at 14:40:14
I can't wait to get shut, he's had 1 good game since the minute he arrived (Sunderland vs Everton, FA Cup Quarterfinal). Just another Bily... useless!!

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