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Phil Sammon
1 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:10:00
No Stones or Barkley. Little disappointed in the team really but I’m pleased McGeady is starting and McAleny is on the bench.
Peter Barry
2 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:13:18
Interesting Stones and Berkley both out: can we read England call up into that? I’ve not heard that either were injured.
Joe Halligan
3 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:14:48
Do you think Martinez may have rested them both because he knows they’ve been called up for England, Phil?
James Stewart
4 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:13:14
Why is there no Stones or Barkley even on the bench?
Mike Benjamin
5 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:15:55
It may be that Barkley and Stones have been left out because they are on the World Cup reserve list. Apparently those on the list were being informed today.
Phil Sammon
6 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:17:47
Joe

I don’t know the reasoning. It seems really strange to me though. If Martinez wants them doing well for England then surely he should be playing them and asking for them to cement their place in the England team.

Raymond Fox
7 Posted 11/05/2014 at 14:40:56
It does seem odd that the two of them are not even on the bench for this match. Especially Barkley as a sub, if we need a goal late in the game!

The only half decent explanation I can come up with is that maybe both have not been selected for the World Cup and are so disappointed that RM doesn’t think that their minds would not be on the job ahead!

That’s the best I could think of, it’s not very plausible though is it?

Olalekan Taofik
8 Posted 11/05/2014 at 15:18:47
McCarthy’s goal is bringing a good end to his season.
Saegaran Kana
10 Posted 11/05/2014 at 16:26:37
I think it’s a swansong for some of our old guard and this is their final match...
Mike Childs
11 Posted 11/05/2014 at 16:51:09
Thank You Lads and Roberto for the best season I have enjoyed in my 5 years of being a fan of the number 1 team playing the real game of football. Not only playing football but playing beautiful football. Words cannot describe what an enjoyable season this has been for me. I can only imagine what it must feel like for those of you who have in their blood.

Can’t wait to travel to Goodison Park next year. Wish they’d post the schedule now. Any chance I’ll be able to get a ticket against the enemy?

Steve Durham
12 Posted 11/05/2014 at 16:54:58
Whooooooah Shola Ameobi, whoooooah Shola Ameobi, Whooooooah Shola Ameobi, knees bent, arms stretched rar rar rar.

See ya Pienaar. See ya ossie. See ya Gareth. Au revior olde gits.

Stevie G, Stevie G, Stevie G, lost the title against Chelseeeea.

Suarez is off as well according to 5 Live.

Happy days.

That was your chance, Roberto’s army are on the march now.

Max Wilson
13 Posted 11/05/2014 at 16:56:49
We never expected to lose this one did we? And now the rumour mill will start spinning-Lukaku going or staying, Deulofeu? etc etc What should we think of this season. Far better than we could have reasonably expected, I’d say. With some really satisfying moments along the way.

Roberto has his reputation as a wheeler dealer to protect — let’s hope he squeezes some serious money out of the board and works wonders with it. My man of the season scored the first goal to-day. He has played at the same high level the whole season, no drops in form and mood.

The first thing I want to read on Monday is "Gareth Barry signs on for 2 years at Goodison."
COYB

Mike Price
14 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:09:01
I know it makes me bitter but that Gerrard song for ever...Crystanbul...Suarez crying...everything possible going for them and they still bottle it, it feels like a MasterCard commercial!
Brilliant Martinez and beautiful blue hope and glory ahead for us all. Have a great summer lads and lasses.
Steve Gerrard, Gerrard....!!
Nev Renshaw
15 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:10:02
Great season fellas. Those of you who’ve been chosen to represent your respective countries in the world cup have a good campaign and get back to us injury free. See you next season. Very proud. COYB.
Paul Andrews
16 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:16:33
Great end to the season.
3 points for the boys.

And the lovable scallywags lose out.

Karl Jones
17 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:21:11
In retrospect, if we had have beaten City at Goodison it would have handed them the title...Thankful for poor defending from Stones, Alcaraz and Jags in that game because I couldnt have lived with that.
Michael Kenrick
18 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:05:21
That makes it all the sweeter for me, Karl!

Did Rodwell play enough games to get a medal?

James Rainey
19 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:26:22
That’s a great first season under Bobby and a big Well Done to him and all the staff at Everton FC.

Roll on next season; I for one cannot wait.

Gary Mortimer
20 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:30:36
Martinez said that Ross and Stonesy needed a rest. Nothing about not going to World Cup . . . but I guess the way the meejah go on, I guess they’d have to move to Liverpoo before being picked.
Karl Jones
21 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:34:54
Michael, Only 4 appearaces...10 required for a medal.
Paul Andrews
22 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:38:06
Rodwell just got his medal, Karl.
Eric Owen
23 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:34:14
Think I saw both Rodwell and Lescott get medals.

Don’t want anymore of our lads to earn Championship medals that way.

Stay with us and earn them honestly.

Colin Glassar
24 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:39:16
Karl Jones!! That is just mean.........not.
Dean Adams
25 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:43:35
Rodders had 5 appearances and was given a medal. I saw him, I’m sure I did. Wow, am I going mad.
Malcolm Joyner
26 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:39:31
.....and still people prefer to write about the fate of RS than congratulate our boys on a wonderful season !

Funny what dominates some Evertonian minds.

Tony J Williams
27 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:46:01
Malcolm it was all too close. I was nearly looking for a transfer to a different office outside of Liverpool.
Karl Jones
28 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:47:42
Wonder if Arriva have a Bus Marked with "Liverpool PL Champions" hidden away in their garage for a parade this week..and Congratulations to Everton for a magnificent and highly enjoyable season. I have my Season ticket for next season and am really looking forward to it COYB!... PS made up for James McCarthy- an Everton legend in waiting.
Dean Adams
29 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:53:07
Why are you complaining Malcolm. It is a free country. People have a right to point out that they hate our shite neighbours. If nobody tells the next generation about their despicable behaviour, then where will that lead?
Mike Price
30 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:52:28
Malcolm, you’re a funny sort of Evertonian if you don’t get that!!

I’ve just opened a bottle of Moet and it’s not 10 o’clock yet in Canada. It is Mother’s Day here though so a bit of a double celebration!... mand I’m loving it.

Denis Richardson
31 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:49:32
Great season all in all, onto the WC.

Re the medals, think the rule is you need min 10 appearance but exceptions can be made for players who missed a lot of games through injury. I guess Rodders and Lescot got medals because of this.Bit off if you ask me - injured or not, how can you get a medal having only made 4 appearances all season?

Mike Hughes
32 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:34:06
Karl #17

Exactly!

The "Saturday Dilemma" thread from last week might make some interesting reading in retrospect.

One or two Blues wanting the rs to win it (!?)

One or two Blues betting on the rs to win - and now out of pocket :) I’d rather be happy than happy and out-of-pocket. Karma.

Ecstatic about today.

A great performance by the Mighty Blues that has capped-off an excellent season. Well done to Roberto Martinez and the lads.

Record points haul, 8 points ahead of Utd as well as the double over them. Turning over Arsenal and Chelsea. Europa League.

Nervous day today.

The season summary in 5 words or less:

School Of Science Is Back (someone else mentioned that on R5L) or...

Gerrard Slips.

World Cup to look forward to ...... summer ahead ...... happy days.

(I wonder if we’ll be on first on MoTD tonight?)

Geoff Evans
33 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:45:13
Malcolm 26. Good comment mate. My hope for next season is that unless we are playing a derby game they never, ever get a mention on this site again. We’ve got a great, positive manager who has only Everton FC on his mind, all we want on this site is positivity about our club.

We are Everton; unfortunately for the rest, they’re not.

Jim Bennings
34 Posted 11/05/2014 at 17:57:42
What a fantastic season under the real Messiah that is Roberto Martinez.

21 wins...better than last season.
61 goals....better than last season.
15 clean sheets....better than last season.

72 points and back in Europe....better than last season.

Romelu Lukaku...16 goals, 15 from 29 Premier League matches...

Say what you like about what he us or isn’t worth, the simple fact remains, to replace those goals is going to take a considerable chunk of money...

Great end to the season and how fitting was it that our "other" player of the season, James McCarthy should score his first Everton goal on the last day.

Thanks for giving us a quality season Roberto and the lads..Already can’t wait until August 16th when it all starts again.

Malcolm Joyner
35 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:07:08
We can only hope that Roberto doesn’t continue to speak so effusively about Kone and Traore that he convinces BK they can make up the goals Lukaku has scored !!!
Colin Glassar
36 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:11:12
Brill end to the season. I can't wait to watch motd just to see which rs zombies they wheel out tonight. Long mugs all round no doubt.
Well done Roberto. What a season amigo. Just a word of advice bobby lad. Don't let BK bugger off to the smoke until mid-August. Grab him now, while you can, and give him your list of transfer targets and make sure he gives you a signed copy. He's almost as slippery as gerrard that one.
Patrick Murphy
37 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:14:04
I definitely don't see Ba as the answer either; we need to find an unknown star in the making but it is Roberto's biggest challenge to find a reliable goalscorer who can hold the ball up consistently.
Patrick Murphy
38 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:16:11
Colin - I wonder if they'll mention on MotD that the Sky Blues won the title? You would also think that with London being the Billionaire capital of the world that Bill residing in London would be ideal, but I suppose it's difficult to find one when you're searching 24/7!
Mike Childs
39 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:00:04
Everton — 5th; 72 points

Man Utd — 7th; 64 points

For me this is in the top 3 of enjoyable moments. As a newbie this is the team I despise the most. They're the ones who have been shoved down my throat here in the states. All those favorable calls over the years, ole Rednoses' sense of entitlement. Love it, love it.

I must admit though, as I read more posts, read more history, the Redshites are climbing up the list fast.

Colin Glassar
40 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:19:00
I don't get the media's dislike of Man City. Even today, you could sense that they wanted an upset. Is it because they want their old top 4 back (Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal)? I know city have spent gazillions but their players, to me at least, seem less cocky than JT, Gerrard, Wilshere, Van fucking Persie etc..... And I like Pellegrini as well.
Still, no-one as honest as our lads and Senor Martinez.
Phil Bellis
41 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:20:07
Malcolm
If you really don't don't understand how concerned (and why so) most of us were about a rs title win I can only think you live and work very far from the City

If I'm wrong, as I often am, get yourself down to Hannah's Bar and in the loudest possible voice ask for a pint of Blue Moon; I'll be at the end of the bar with mine

Mike Price
42 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:26:38
Oh, one other thing, I'll always have a special place in my heart for Jose Mourinho...hates them always as much as me and delivered the glorious killing blow and celebrated in fin style. Nice revenge for the farce in 2005.
John Crook
43 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:24:49
Another interesting thing I have noticed this season is that we have done the double over other teams 7 and only lost 1 double (to Man City, the Champions). What a decent record that is!

We only seemed to record 2 or so doubles maximum in recent history. Gaining momentum is about beating teams home and away and getting consecutive wins, such as the 7 straight wins in March/April. Well I think our season was let down in the very dry January/February when we only won once in each of those months.

An excellent 'transitional' season from Roberto! 72 points and no Champions League chance seems very harsh but it just proves how much harder the league gets every year. Can't wait until we go again. The School of Science is on its way back!

Ian Bennett
44 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:27:55
Pluses:-
Style improvement.
Loan system worked.
Moved out 3 players not missed.
Money in the bank.
Barkley, Stones, McCarthy, Naismith, Oviedo, Coleman have pushed forward.

Negatives:-
Another year on the clock for Osman, Kone, jags, Distin, Howard, Pienaar.
Gibson injured again.
Loans got to go back.

Summer ahead:-
Need a top notch centre forward or two. We still don't score enough goals to get to the top table or trouble the trophy cabinet. Lukaku for me.
Need a pass master in the middle. Someone who can play the ball ala Pirlo.
Would love a Lallana type on the left. Someone who can can score 10 plus goals a season and create. Pienaar isn't going to be that player.
Need so more cover for the additional games. As Roberto says, another 5-6 players are a must.

Mike Hughes
45 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:33:22
Mike #42

Agreed... not surprising that the red media hate Mourinho as well. He pulled off tactical master-classes away to Man City and Liverpool; got praised for the former and slaughtered for the latter.

I'm made up about Everton's season. I'll be the first to admit that Roberto Martinez has far exceeded my expectations this season. A breath of fresh air. Unlucky (or naïve) not to get Champions League which would have really been something.

Kieran Riding
46 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:46:45
We've played some superb stuff this season. The pride was always there, but the expectation wasn't I guess. Both now fully restored.

We've got some exciting talent for next season and European footy.

And to cap it off, and I say cap, as Moyes getting binned off was sweet for me.. Liverpool actually threw the league away when they looked certs, thanks to Stevie G.

The badge even grew on me as the season went on too..

Onwards and upwards, and if we don't see the loan lads again... Good luck to you.

Malcolm Joyner
47 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:30:35
Phil Bellis: D'ya know I sometimes wonder how I survived all those years of RS dominance and celebration of trophies we can only dream of winning!

I guess my attitude has always been 'fuck 'em', I'm not interested. I've lived and worked in our city all my life and I've done so as an Evertonian. 'They' don't sour my life, I tell you, the gods made the right choice for me!

Kieran Riding
48 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:56:17
On a side note about the media..

The derby county fans just did a mins applause for the victims of the Bradford fire anniversary..

Any bets on it getting a mention on MOTD tonight?? Or will the fact that it's Hansen's final appearance on the show be more important??

Patrick Murphy
49 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:48:27
Mike I think the reason for the dislike of the other teams in the top half-a-dozen is the fact that only Brenda is a British manager; the next British managers in charge of top ten teams are Mark Hughes and Alan Pardew with Tony Pulis in eleventh place. But if you have a South American cheat in your team that is acceptable it's a strange world the Media inhabit.

Everton ended up with the third best defensive record in the Premier League behind City and Chelsea, which is both pleasing and surprising given how many of us thought that was an area of the team which would have suffered under Roberto. Sixth best attack although a good way off the top two - 101 goals and still no Title?

In the end it has been a very satisfying season but it will be a tougher ask again next season - but at least we know that Roberto will extract every ounce of effort from the lads and there will be no self-imposed restrictions apart from the obvious lack of financial backing, which it seems at least one of the top four teams also suffer from as they couldn't stop the huge bank balance of Manchester buying the title.

Eugene Ruane
50 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:40:15
Mike Hughes - "One or two Blues betting on the rs to win - and now out of pocket :) I'd rather be happy than happy and out-of-pocket. Karma"

You are JOKING!!

Those people are SCUM!!

Name and shame them I say!!

Well let me say whoever they are, they're certainly nowhere near the Evertonian you are and nobody hates Liverpool better than you.

MIke! Mike! Mike! Mike!....

(seems to be what you're after)

Raymond Fox
51 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:25:21
What can you say about our season, its been better in every way and done with a smile no less. What a man, manager of the season by a bleeding mile for my money.

Just imagine next year if Roberto was given £100m to get in 3 or 4 top quality players, we would have a chance of winning the league never mind top 4. Never going to happen of course, so the question is can we match this season, it will be very difficult I'd say.

According to Gerrard, they're going to win the title next year, yeah right, with their 2nd choice manager and without no legs Suarez their not, they blew their chance this season big time. That dozy sod, Lawrenson, had us down to lose today, what a surprise!

We are going to have to think outside the box, and maybe sell Seamus for a king's ransom, okay, you're going to call me barmy but it would give us the money to strengthen up front and midfield!

Bill Gall
52 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:45:51
Congratulations on a fine season that turned out a lot better than a number of people--myself included; did not think was going to happen at the start of the season.

Still of the opinion that January was the turning point of the season and that the board and chairman was at fault for not acting at the time to freshen up the squad to provide coverage for injuries and fatigue.

As the saying goes you can not change the past so on to next season and let us see if money is available to bring in new players that can take us to the next level. Looking foreward to see who from the youth teams are going to make the next step up and displace some of the older players in the first team squad.

No use speculating who is coming in or who leaving till after the world cup but I believe the Manager has a firm idea of the type of player he wants and after last season with more time at the club I do not think he will let us down.

James Carlisle
53 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:59:25
I had a good feeling about Roberto when we got him, mostly for the change in style of play. However I thought we'd finish about 5 places lower than we have. This has been undoubtedly our best Premier League season yet. Not just in terms of the points tally but also the way we've played, the young players, the existing players hitting their stride and our Champions League challenge going nearly all the way. It's been exciting stuff.

If this is supposedly a transition season then hopefully we can expect better come this time next year.

Danny Kewley
56 Posted 11/05/2014 at 18:47:09
Agreed Mike Mike from down the Blue Rd @44 and when you think of it we were only 12 points from the bleeding top mate!
We had a great season except for a few daft results which would have seen the media squirming pal.
Roll on next season boys & girls!
Patrick Murphy
57 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:13:51
Everton have a Cup Final to look forward too as well at least the Ladies team has anyway "Nikita Parris's first-half double proved vital as Everton edged past a spirited Notts County side to book a place in The FA Women's Cup Final."
COYFB
Jon Cox
58 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:12:06
Great season,

What a shame the media don't talk the same way about Roberto as they do about Brenda!!

Colin Glassar
59 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:13:31
Is it Hansen's last night on MotD? I hope one of those heavy lights fall on his head and rolls onto Lawro's privates. God how I hate those two dipshits.

The only downside is next season they will probably have Danny dickforbrains Murphy and Didi 'I am one of ze boyz from Brasil' Hamman on. Even worse as those two look like a pair of creeps.

Linda Morrison
60 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:20:09
Yes all is well but I want the board to sign Lukaku. He fits in with the team and he is very young He will develop with Everton

we also need a few defenders please

Peter Mills
61 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:13:39
I stood to win £800 if the rs won the league today. It was worth every penny for the bet to go down.

Today, and this season, has been very good, with the highlight for me being the night at Old Trafford. COYB.

Colin Glassar
62 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:27:30
Full-time contracts:
Lukaku
Barry

Loanees:
Deulofeu
Traore
Tello
Ince

New buys:
Holtby
Redmond
Martins
Colbeck.

Mike Price
63 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:29:56
I agree Linda. Wasn't sure about Lukaku a few times this season but if we could get him for £20 million it would be a no-lose situation. We need to put a marker down and that would be it.

We got £28 mill for Fellaini which is at least £20 mill over the odds and should be parlayed into a Lukaku.

Kieran Riding
64 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:32:49
Colin #59
Is deffo his last MOTD. He's off to Brazil for his last job.. Pip Neville is also on board for the BBC World Cup.

Nuff said.

Mike Hughes
65 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:24:52
Patrick #49

You are probably right on that, particularly "In the end it has been a very satisfying season but it will be a tougher ask again next season"

I think that'll be true for a few next season. This year has been really strange (twists and turns at the top, Man Utd decline, a larger than usual gulf between top and bottom).

EFC have achieved without the massive resources of the others in the top 8. Obviously the striker situation needs sorting as does the squad size in Europe - neither will be cheap! That is extremely satisfying given the younger players coming through as well as some of the walking wounded returning to action.

City and Chelsea are shoe-ins for the top 4 next season (for me).
Third and fourth places are up for grabs between us, the rs, Arsenal and Man Utd.

I'm optimistic about it.

Simon Jones
66 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:42:22
We'll get Kone & Traore back up front, Gibson in midfield. Can't see Lukaku staying, surely Jose is not that mad to let him go? God knows he could have used this season, surely they will kiss and make up? Be made up to see Barry sign for two years. We are a promising team for a young and ambitious player to sign for. The main guy we need to keep hold of in the summer is Roberto.
Robert Jones
67 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:44:37
Great season. Plenty of progress shown and optimistic for the future. Well done Roberto and the whole team.

Now it's all over I can sympathise with the other lot that it's shame they didn't win it because it would have been great for the city (ho, ho)

Danny Kewley
68 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:41:05
Don't even know me soddin neighbours meant Mike from
45 Blue Rd.
Mike Hughes
69 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:43:03
Colin #59

Ha, ha... nice imagery there. I'm defo looking forward to MotD tonight. I wonder will Hansen get a Guard of Honour from the legion of RS pundits? It wouldn't surprise me at all.

I just hope they have the season review and it includes: the Oviedo goal at OT; Barkley's goal against City; ...... and Gerrard's motivational "don't let this slip" speech, closely followed by the slip.

(By the way, did anyone hear Brenda's pre-match press conference? It was a 3-minute team talk for WHU concluding with "but we only focus on ourselves." Really?)

Frank Crewe
70 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:51:01
@Simon Jones.

According to Rednapp Jnr. the team young players should sign for is Citeh. Look at Rodwell. Got his arse off the bench five times and now has a PL champs medal.

Mike Hughes
71 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:52:31
Danny,

The Sunderland result on Boxing Day was a blow as was Crystal Palace. There's 6 points that we should have had – although it never works out like that, does it?

Southampton away was a shocker and let's forget about the tactical balls-up at Anfield. We were so close.

Still, an excellent season.

Phil Sammon
72 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:58:02
I CANNOT WAIT FOR MOTD!

After the Liverpool - Chelsea game the MOTD panel reviewed the game and there was not a single mention of Gerrard's slip. No replay, nothing!

Like it or LOVE IT that moment changed the season and they can't possibly avoid discussing it tonight...can they?!

Chris Matheson
73 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:02:16
OK. So when are next season's fixtures announced?
Jim Bennings
74 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:54:16
I get the strange feeling that I am going to be woken up tonight by a weird funny dream of Steven Gerrard ranting to his team mates in a big huddle ""ay ay we have just let this fuckin slip, we have just let this fuckin slip""...haha oh dear I just can't help but laugh sometimes, it was funny and kind if karma really, Gerrard talking about not slipping up and then two weeks later he is on his arse costing them the title.

Anyway laughs at them over now.

A really good season for Everton.

Must do this summer..

Sign Lukaku or at least a proven 16 plus goals a season striker in the mode of Lukaku...i:e Wilfried Bony, Loic Remy.

We must keep our progress up next season and that means we must compete off the pitch during the summer in the transfer window.

In the words of Steven Gerrard..

WE CANNOT LET THIS SLIP

Patrick Murphy
75 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:04:25
Phil - you are deluding yourself mate there wasn't any slip-up by Captain Me and there was no tactical blunder by British Brenda at Crystal Palace either, it was all down to those pesky money men backing the Manchester interlopers and if Uefa had any sense of duty the Manchester club should be docked three points and the game of football would be all the better for it!

I'm currently reading "101 ways to lose a title" and I can't seem to get past the highest new entry at number one, which is that slip by Stevie Me against Chelsea which in my mind now surpasses Arsenal '89.

Simon Jones
76 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:11:53
Frank (No 71),

Dead right, there: sit on the bench, get a medal. And a £100k per week...

Am I right in thinking Kevin Langley played 14 times in the 86-87 season and we had to ask the FA permission for him to get a winners' medal as you needed to have played 15 times?

David Price
77 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:18:00
Strange but true.
If we had done the double over Man City and the RS, we'd be Champions tonight by 3 points.

Over to you Bill to help Roberto cross that particular bridge...

Excellent season boys, Thank You..

Eugene Ruane
78 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:07:22
Phil. Yes they certainly can avoid it (and probably will), however Gerrard himself can't and will get the 'slipped on his arse' song at every ground he plays at until the crease-headed twat packs it in.

That slip will (hopefully) have him waking up dripping in sweat for the next 50 years.

Open on kipping Gerrard.

Richard Burton type voice: "It...was...you....it...was...you...it..was...YOU...YOU YOU...YOUYOUYOUYOOOOUUUUUU!!!"

SG: (waking) "NOOOOOOOOO!!!...uh...what...I was having...uh...nightm.."

Satsuma coloured missus: "Oh f'frig's sake lad, it was 20 years a-friggun-go - pack irrin will yer!"

SG: "Yes..sorry..I'm sure it'll pass...(sigh)...one day"

Sue Brown
79 Posted 11/05/2014 at 19:42:51
Well, a great ending to a magnificent season eh! Thanks to Roberto and the lads for what was a "transitional"term far beyond what we envisaged.

A mention too for our traveling support. I watched the game on BeinSport and as always they were in fine voice, drowning out even the very excitable Arabic commentator!

Really chuffed for McCarthy scoring a well deserved goal, and McGeady made a few decent runs and I think will benefit from the preseason with us.

All-in-all very happy tonight, but oh, August seams so far away... can't wait!!

Yair Kaye
80 Posted 11/05/2014 at 20:21:15
GREAT FIRST SEASON UNDER MARTINEZ. Well done, lads. I hope for an improvement next PL season, but it will be an uphill task unless there are proper funds available to Martinez by our management.

I wrote here a couple of times prior to our game against Man City that if we don't lose we'll be handing the title to the RS. Together with others here we were proven right, so now we have also the outcome of the title race to cheer about. I can't understand EFC supporters criticizing it. I only hope the RS will not feature again in the title race and will not advance too far in the CL. If that'll happen, I promise never to mention them. I just want them small, meaningless & behind us.

Teddy Draper
82 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:01:04
Some biased twat on Sky said we play in the qualifying rounds and Spurs go straight into the group stage. This cannot be right, can it?

I have tried to find the correct procedure for this to no avail. Anybody know anything about the rules?

Paul Hewitt
83 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:02:07
We go straight in the group stage if Arsenal win cup.
Peter Bell
84 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:03:06
The winner of FA Cup goes straight through, but if it's Arsenal then Everton go straight to Group stage and Hull to qualifiers. Spurs aren't even in the equation, they are deffo in the qualifying round.
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
85 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:01:21
It's not decided yet, Teddy. It all depends on the result of next weekend's FA Cup Final.

My understanding is that, if Arsenal win, then Everton will go straight into the group stages. However, if Hull CIty win, then THEY will go straight into the group stages and Everton will have to play in the Fourth Qualifying Round.

We've set up a new Everton in Europe page, trying to explain some of the utterly bizarre Uefa complexity underlying the seeding logic for their European competitions, and we will try to update this as things develop. It includes links to the fount of knowledge when it comes down to European Football: Bert Kassies.

James Rainey
87 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:17:26
That was a great season! Well done, Bobby and the Blue Boys.

Roll on next season.

Kieran Riding
91 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:33:28
Craig, he was shown around Carrington and OT whilst Moyes was still there.
Richard Farrington
93 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:23:40
Great win and fine end to a great season. Hope we can build and go further. Come on Bill, over to you.

Just got back from the game and will be writing to Hull City for the disgraceful way in which all Everton fans were treated on exiting the ground today.

While the Hull fans remained in the ground to watch the lap of honor, we were all made to walk miles out of our way after they locked the gates, through the tightly parked coaches, single file access only, through mud, hills, shit and puddles. Older fans were falling and slipping as a steep bank had to be negotiated to get away.

All it did was delay our escape and we only ended up bumping into the Hull fans anyway, which was surely the whole point. It never ceases to astound me how they can treat us paying supporters in this manner.

Whoever made this decision needs to be dealt with as he is clearly a prize pratt.

Anyway, we won, rant over. Roll on next season. Up the toffees.

David Johnson
94 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:41:03
It's worth noting that our points haul would have seen us qualify for the Champions League in 7 out of the previous 10 seasons. A fantastic achievement by Martinez — well done.

I hope we treat the Europa with the respect it deserves and bring home some silverware. Thanks, Roberto, for reigniting my passion for the Blues.

Mike Corcoran
95 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:44:27
Reminds of that Beach Boys song, "You failed with the slip Stevie G"
Ian Linn
96 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:52:02
Great season. I didn't know what to make of Martinez, after the first three results, I was worried we were going to have a shit season... It turned out to give us some of the best footy in ages.

I would like to see some of the loans turn into permanent deals and a few fresh faces – especially an up-and-coming keeper to be understudy to Howard – Robles does not cut it.

Robert Collins
97 Posted 11/05/2014 at 21:56:31
David Price @ 77

"Strange but true.
If we had done the double over Man City and the RS, we'd be Champions tonight by 3 points."

David, the above mentioned are difficult to achieve, even in top form.

However, remember Norwich (1st game), West Brom (home/away), Crystal Palace (away/home) and Sunderland (home).

All of the above and we're Champions with points to spare!

It was basically our performances against the so-called lesser teams that has us outside the CL and places and (just like the dark side) not champions.

And these games were so absolutely do-able.

Robert Collins
99 Posted 11/05/2014 at 22:10:44
Michael Kenrick @ 85

If Hull go straight into the groups ahead of us, what Uefa are basically saying is that they regard a six-game cup run more highly than a 38-game season in the toughest league in the world.

Phil Sammon
100 Posted 11/05/2014 at 22:15:55
News just in on BBC is that it's Baines and Shaw going to Brazil ahead of Ashley Cole.

I'm delighted and completely shocked! Now will Roy have the balls to ditch Lampard too?

Colin Glassar
101 Posted 11/05/2014 at 22:17:21
I don't understand the confusion over the Europa League qualification. If Arsenal win the FA Cup, Everton go straight into the group stage. If Hull win the FA Cup, Everton, Hull and Spurs have to play a qualifying game to get to the group stage. It isn't difficult: we have to hope the Gooners win.
Mike Hughes
102 Posted 11/05/2014 at 22:29:27
Richard #93

That sounds appalling and you are right to complain.
I hope you and your fellow Blues took advantage of doing Stevie G impressions, though, slipping in all that mud and crap.

(Not that I'll be mentioning it much these coming weeks.)

Mike Hughes
103 Posted 11/05/2014 at 22:39:36
Well said Manuel Pellegrini in his post-match interview.
"It was a hard season with 4 or 5 teams fighting for the title."
That includes us.

(And is it just me being a Blue Bigot that sees so many of these top managers as having a bit of class when it matters - RM included - but with one notable exception?)

Brent Stephens
105 Posted 11/05/2014 at 23:13:16
Barkley and Stones in the England squad (if I read the runes correctly).
Kevin Tully
106 Posted 11/05/2014 at 23:13:11
21 wins and 72 points ain't too shabby at all. All the talk about this team only improving because of loanees is really very wide of the mark – we had to play to their strengths and that's down to how the team was set up. Look how much Naismith has improved this season.

Watch McCarthy, Coleman and Barkley set this League alight next season. Forget about the loans, we will see them replaced and Bobby's master plan start to take shape.

Every Evertonian expects a top 4 challenge next season – it would funny to hear Martinez set a primary target of 40 points. I wonder what some would have to say about the Spaniard if he did?

Jim Bennings
107 Posted 11/05/2014 at 23:21:59
I actually think it's a weird decision not taking Cole to be honest.

If Baines was to get injured then you're throwing in an 18-year-old lad in Shaw straight into the deep end.

Mike Hughes
108 Posted 11/05/2014 at 23:59:13
Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVlsXYhJJ4

Brian Denton
109 Posted 11/05/2014 at 23:44:34
Just done a bit of research, and since 2001-02 (when EPL first got 4 teams in the UCL) in only 3 of the 13 seasons would 72 points not have got you into the Champions League.

Remarkably (funny how you forget these things), the Shite got in in 2003-04 with 60 points. And there's us feeling a bit shamefaced about getting in with 61 points....

Mike Hughes
110 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:13:21
Brian – we're within touching distance. At least 4 points off the RS next season though. Stuff them at GP and park as many buses as we like at their place (it'll get us a point and wind them up no end). As well as building on what we've done this year.

Exciting times.

Si Cooper
111 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:15:08
Great for James McCarthy to get his first goal (which he really enjoyed) and a good controlled game to finish an excellent season.

Lots to be positive about for next season provided the manager gets the backing he has proved he really deserves.

Shame the Barcodes folded again; if they had won today the RS would have ended up 3rd which would have been hilarious. Happy for Pellegrini who has name-checked us regularly this season when asked about the contenders. Being just 14 points behind the Champions considering the relative resources is a remarkable effort which isn't being highlighted enough. When is the Manager of the Season announced?

Is the summer transfer window already open? If not, then the announcement of a bid for Luke Shaw can only be a poor attempt by Man Utd to bury their atrocious season at the earliest possible moment.

What happened to that rumour about imminent investment? Any updates or has it been confirmed as the usual bullshit.?

COYB! Remember Bill – Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Patrick Murphy
112 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:31:00
Just watched the second goal against Hull again – I made it that nine players including Howard were involved in the move only Distin and Baines didn't touch it – have we ever scored a goal where all eleven players were part of the move?

Si - I'm hoping that our neighbours have annoyed the Man City hierarchy so much that they get one of their mates to invest in Everton FC.

Si Cooper
113 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:24:35
Jim (107) - certainly makes it seem that any youngsters who go won't be expected just to experience what happens in training at a major international tournament and soak up the atmosphere from the stands.

Is it the final squad being announced? I thought they had a few weeks before that had to be decided and might announce a preliminary squad if there was a chance of getting everyone together for some training in the next couple of weeks.

Si Cooper
114 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:46:14
Patrick - they could help us out with some really cheap deals for some much needed squad reinforcements! :)

I also meant to make a point about the excellent application shown by the majority of the squad throughout an arduous season. Seems like Roberto's ball skills oriented approach has worked as well as OFM's more fitness based regime. I believe we are losing our fitness coach who was given a good send-off by the players today. Hopefully his successor will be as competent and popular.

Colin Gee
115 Posted 12/05/2014 at 00:45:01
Fantastic first season under Roberto; as the song goes, "The School of Science, is on its way back."

Great away support from the fans today, the Hull City fans were pissing themselves laughing at the Stevie Me song. Nice too that Jelavic get a good reception.

Roll on the 16th August!

Phil Bellis
116 Posted 12/05/2014 at 01:25:27
Malcolm Joyner (470)

Fair play to you, in that case - no offence meant

You are, wiithout douty, a very special, balanced, content and unembittered human being
(however, I drank your Blue Moon )

Michael Kenrick
117 Posted 12/05/2014 at 01:53:50
Here's the full skinny:

1) The 5th-placed team (Everton) will qualify for the 2014–15 Uefa Europa League group stage if Arsenal win the 2013–14 FA Cup.

2) Since the 2013–14 Football League Cup winners (Manchester City) qualified for the 2014–15 Uefa Champions League, the 6th-placed team (Tottenham Hotspur) qualifies for 2014–15 Uefa Europa League Third Qualifying Round.

3) If Arsenal win the 2013–14 FA Cup, the 6th placed team (Tottenham Hotspur) would instead qualify for the 2014–15 Uefa Europa League Playoff Round.

4) Hull City have qualified for the 2014–15 Uefa Europa League, as they will play Champions League-qualified Arsenal in the final of the 2013–14 FA Cup. Their starting round will depend on whether they win the FA Cup.

5) If Hull City win the FA Cup, they will enter the group stage. If Arsenal win the FA Cup, Hull City will enter the Third Qualifying Round, the 6th-placed team (Tottenham Hotspur) will enter the Playoff Round, and the 5th-placed team (Everton) will enter the group stage.

Only puzzler is the "Playoff Round" — is that the Fourth Qualifying Round per Bert Kassies?

And re-reading that... it doesn't really make it any clearer.

Other than, we have to wait until next weekend!

Oh, and we should probably cheer on Arsenal for the FA Cup.

Kieran Riding
118 Posted 12/05/2014 at 02:04:17
Good god Michael, my heads farting reading that..
Martinez out !
Colin Gee
119 Posted 12/05/2014 at 02:08:13
Michael #117

Yes, as I understand it, the 'Playoff Round' is the Fourth Qualifying Round.

James Stewart
120 Posted 12/05/2014 at 02:09:20
Can't wait for Europe under RM. I think we will excel in it. The Benfica embarrassment will be avenged!
Darryl Ritchie
121 Posted 12/05/2014 at 05:34:23
A satisfying end to a great season. The Blues put in a good, professional shift vs Hull. MotM: James McCarthy. Macca and Naisy remind me of energizer bunnies; they just keep running and running and running.....! Jags looked a little rusty, but I think that was to be expected. Distin was a force and covered well.

Now on to the silly season:

Who comes in / who leaves?
How much money do / don't we have available?
Who are we going to play preseason?
What colour are our socks going to be?

With all these important things to discuss, plus the WC, it's going to be another busy TW summer. Blue 'til I die!

Drew Shortis
123 Posted 12/05/2014 at 09:52:25
For the first time in many years, I feel confident about the upcoming pre-season. We seem to be in a better place financially and are looking to strengthen, rather than fight of wealthier teams for our star players. If anyone does get targeted (Ross, Seamus, Kevin, Stones) we can insist on an huge fee.

I think the Fellaini saga last summer showed that we are not going to be pushed around in the transfer market anymore. We can offer our players European football and a realistic crack at Champions League qualification.

Our main task is to secure Lukaku or a top quality replacement. Looking forward to pre-season for once!

Kevin Tully
124 Posted 12/05/2014 at 10:39:41
Enjoy ;

Link

Kev Johnson
125 Posted 12/05/2014 at 10:46:42
Ha-ha. Nice one, KT.
Raymond Fox
126 Posted 12/05/2014 at 10:16:53
So where does everyone think we will finish in the PL next season?

Personally I think that this year may be a hard act to follow.
Why, because our loan players have made a massive difference this season, and it will be difficult to replace them like for like. It seems to me, reading between the lines that they will not be with us next year.

Man Utd and Spurs will probably be more competitive than they have been this year, especially Utd. Then we have the Europa League to fit in, which is very unlikely to help our PL form. If we do finish lower than 5th, I don't think it will be the manager's fault, it will more than likely be a lack of money available to bring new quality players into our squad!

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, just a realist; I think at this point if I was having a bet for us to finish 5th or higher or lower than 5th next season, it would have to be lower than 5th.

Matt Traynor
127 Posted 12/05/2014 at 11:03:14
Raymond #126, genuine question, but what is the point in asking that now, before the transfer window is even open? Who knows what the squad will look like come the start of the season, or even the end of the window?

But if you want to really be Realistic Raymond, then yes, in all likelihood Martinez won't get the backing in the transfer market, and therefore we'll be left struggling to compete again.

In other words, the same as the last 13 years under these owners.

Déja vu.

Raymond Fox
128 Posted 12/05/2014 at 11:20:31
Fair point Matt, although I just checked up on Paddy Power and they have prices displayed for the PL next season. They go:-

7/4 City 9/4 Chelsea 11/2 Shite 11/2 Utd 9/1 Arsenal 33/1 Spurs 80/1 Everton 400/1 Bar.

Ray Roche
129 Posted 12/05/2014 at 11:45:43
Kevin Tully@124
The image of Pellegrini carrying the Cup near the end... priceless.
Brian Denton
130 Posted 12/05/2014 at 11:43:29
Spurs so much shorter priced than us? Oh well, I suppose the bookies know what they are talking about. In reality neither us nor Spurs have a chance of winning. It would be more simple to put 400/1 bar after the first five names.

Mind you, the cautiousness of bookies never ceases to amaze me, even on stupid bets – I remember seeing the odds for finding Elvis on the moon were only something like 500-1. You would have thought they could have pushed the boat out for that to a million to one. After all, they were never going to have to pay out!

Nicholas Page
131 Posted 12/05/2014 at 11:59:12
Brain, they're called the Sky 6 (or the 4+2 - catchy! - if they hedge their arses and one does a Utd or a RS). We're not in that club, as we're (1) not rich enough; (2) not in London; (3) not big enough twats.

Others have flirted with it, namely Villa, Newcastle and Leeds the reason being, IMO, is that they're all effectively one-horse town clubs that the PL/Sky bullshiteers can market to death in Brunei and Guangxhou without fear of upsetting the apple-cart.

Kevin Tully
132 Posted 12/05/2014 at 12:22:41
After watching Fowler & Hamman stutter, mumble and squint their way through another MotD last week, I mailed asking why so many redshites were chosen as presenters. Here is their crappy reply:

"Thanks for contacting us regarding BBC One "Match of the Day" broadcast on May 5.

I understand you feel the choice of pundits we have for this, and other football programme is biased in favour of Liverpool Football Club.

You are rightly correct in saying that they played for other clubs beside Liverpool FC, but they have got a wide experience of football knowledge and success with the teams in which they played for, on both an international and club levels.

Programme contributors are appointed on the basis of their experience and talent, but judgements are often subjective and we would never expect everyone to agree with every choice we make.

Let me assure you that I've registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's made available to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.

The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content."

Nicholas Page
133 Posted 12/05/2014 at 12:25:59
They're on everything and have been for the last 20 fecking years because of the media's blind hope that next season is always the one.

Lerner putting Villa up for sale at double the price for EFC, it's rumoured. It will be very interesting to see how quickly it gets sold in light of our own 15-year 24/7 search, the longest sale in the history of selling things. prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/12/aston-villas-american-owner-randy-lerner-puts-club-up-for-sale/

This is especially poignant given that RM has asked for at least 7 players to be added this summer and that extra TV revenues, prize money and player sales should cover most of it. Over to you, Bill...

Mike Hughes
134 Posted 12/05/2014 at 13:14:00
Kevin #132

Thanks for posting that response from the BBC.
The response was almost as funny as some of the links above.
Especially :-

"Programme contributors are appointed on the basis of their experience and talent"

I can only guess watching Fowler et al that the BBC (Brenda's Boy's Club) don't view their own output.

Talent?

Matt Traynor
135 Posted 12/05/2014 at 14:21:20
Nicholas #133 - that puts Villa at around £178m. Can't recall what Lerner paid for them, or what investment he's sunk into them (until the cutbacks around the time O'Neill left, they had spunked a lot of cash) or their current state financially.

However, when Collymore did his feature on EFC on Talksport a while ago, a source from the club – rumoured to be a former Media Head – had put a figure of £125m on the majority shareholders stake, which, given the relative percentages owned, would've valued EFC at around £175m.

Interesting though that for the last couple of years Villa have been cutting back on expenditure, and our net transfer spend (negative) has been growing at the same time...

Patrick Murphy
136 Posted 12/05/2014 at 14:30:13
Matt,

I read somewhere that Lerner paid £62m to buy the club and he certainly bank-rolled them in the first few years. How much that was, I don't know – but he put in considerably more than our board who have been at Everton for twice as long as Lerner.

Matt Traynor
137 Posted 12/05/2014 at 15:31:14
Patrick #136, agreed. But there has been allegations made in the past on these pages that we were the original leveraged buy-out – the accounts showed a jump in debt of just over £20m the year after we were bought by BK et al for... £22m.

And since then, the asset base went from slightly positive to somewhat negative.

That's why, when these carpetbaggers do eventually piss off, they'll have made an absolute fortune whilst the club has stagnated – ie, opportunity cost. But there'll still be people on here who support it cos "he's one of us".

Breandan Clarke
138 Posted 12/05/2014 at 15:01:13
BBC saying that Lerner wants 'about £200m - which is £100m less than Lerner's estimated total investment in the club.'


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