Is anybody else starting to get really worried now that Moyes still hasn't made a signing at United? It's either bonafide evidence that the man is a dithering, hesitant unsure leader... but the fact is he has had probably since Christmas to line up his transfer targets in his head. And I fear they are inevitably wearing Everton shirts at this moment.
As if Fabregras is a realistic target. To me it reads, sorry Everton I tried to get somebody else in but it didn't happen, thanks for Fellaini and how are you Bainesy? It's going to happen isn't it. That would knock the wind right out of my sails right now.
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359 Posted 06/08/2013 at 12:21:15
360 Posted 06/08/2013 at 12:19:16
361 Posted 06/08/2013 at 12:32:59
At the moment, Man Utd have signed no-one, and will likely lose Rooney. On the plus side, if they are desparate to sign one or both of them they will have to throw stupid money at it. but as usual it will too late for us to use.
Iain also has a great point. I agree, I don't the big names will be impressed by Moyes.
I don't wish him any ill will, but he will struggle at United. If he had joined United back in the 80s then yes, maube he could have handled it then. But they are too big now. I think he and Round are out of their depth.
363 Posted 06/08/2013 at 12:58:06
365 Posted 06/08/2013 at 12:59:38
367 Posted 06/08/2013 at 13:10:46
368 Posted 06/08/2013 at 13:25:39
401 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:06:41
406 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:21:09
413 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:20:12
Let's face it, most decent players who are looking for a move have been snapped up by now.
You also have to consider we are not in Europe either, so another negative for any big names considering our club as their next destination.
At this point, I would much rather we kept Baines & Fellaini, but I think we will be left with no choice but to sell one or the other, selling both this late on would be a disaster for all concerned.
423 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:37:03
There is always a last minute scramble,just hope we are not too involved detrimentally!
427 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:46:20
431 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:09:35
Names few knew beyond their native countries used to turn up under Fergie and do well (Ronaldo etc), wonder where that list has gone?
Probably going for a marque signing but Baines, Fellaini even Fabregas don't fit that bill.
Add the Rooney saga and little wonder his defence is up already - "We (utd) have a strong squad anyway..." - the fans arrogance is too great there Davy boy, sugar coating second best won't wash.
Personally speaking I suspect Martinez sees a 50% rebuild to move us on and if it means Felli and Baines going lets get on with it (as long as RM gets the cash).
With Oviedo and the other young lads showing well plus incoming players it's better RM bites the bullet and builds a team in his own image asap.
433 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:53:40
437 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:59:29
Getting them to sign, and all the shit that goes with it is the problem. (agents, wages, no C.L. football, etc)
If we sell anyone in the last week of the window - panic buys help no-one except the selling club. Especially if the selling club know you have £40m in your arse pocket, and are desperate to replace your two best players.
440 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:06:05
441 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:06:05
442 Posted 06/08/2013 at 15:53:13
RM will be aware of what might happen too, it illustrates the advantage of having money to spend as against our manager who is forced to sell before he can spend.
I think Fellaini would go no question, Leighton I think will stay, but I wouldn't bet a fortune on it, mind!
I've been impressed with Oviedo in the games so far, he looks a 1st class replacement for Baines, not saying he's as good, but its a waste sat on the bench.
Cant think of anyone at the club now who could immediately step into Fellaini's shoes, any ideas?
444 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:15:57
449 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:23:02
455 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:25:55
If it happens then he should know how we feel when they visit us.
456 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:43:21
457 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:58:00
458 Posted 06/08/2013 at 16:53:31
Looking around, Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Spuds haven't really got that many in yet either. The most any team has brought in is City with 3.
The surge will come soon though, just before the start of the season and the end of the window.
463 Posted 06/08/2013 at 17:15:09
Arsenal fans have got steam coming out of their ears at the moment, quite funny. Hope they get sewer rat just to see the shite cry. I also want Rooney to go to Chelsea, just to annoy the Mancs.
464 Posted 06/08/2013 at 17:21:10
Baines is a superb player, but will we lose him for a pittance next year or the year after?
Fellaini is great on his day, but too inconsistent.
I think Martinez can do better with the 40M he'd get for the pair, plus the £7.5M / season freed up in wages, given his knowledge of the spanish transfer market.
466 Posted 06/08/2013 at 17:22:20
483 Posted 06/08/2013 at 18:11:11
The only thing we should be concerned with now as regards to Man Utd is if we are due any Bunce from the Rooney sale. I am sure 20% sell-on was mentioned all them years ago when Rooney was sold.
Just been on Talksport that £35 million would seal the deal for Wayno. Be a nice little windfall for us if we are due. Does anyone know for sure if we are getting a Brown Envelope or not?
502 Posted 06/08/2013 at 18:51:22
536 Posted 06/08/2013 at 19:46:04
Naismith and Anichebe as well please Davey!
540 Posted 06/08/2013 at 19:26:18
Two myopic managers who can`t see further than their last club !
547 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:08:40
552 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:09:16
555 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:13:35
Vidic man of the match.
558 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:13:51
Remember skint is relative
562 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:24:00
569 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:32:10
572 Posted 06/08/2013 at 20:35:19
590 Posted 06/08/2013 at 21:15:39
591 Posted 06/08/2013 at 21:23:37
709 Posted 07/08/2013 at 07:59:23
Now I have several feelings on this. Out of principle and in the light of the ridiculous apology from man utd, I would not sell any players to man utd while Moyes is in charge. We ultimately own the contract and have the final say in sales.
On the other hand, if Moyes comes in, the price should go up quickly to allow us to rebuild. I love Gaines but would not begrudge him a shot in the CL, and given his age we could invest the money wisely before his value drops. Fellaini is replaceable but we need top dollar, and to be honest, is he really going to fit a short pass and move game?
Lastly, I have a feeling this season will be consolidation under Martinez with the opportunity to bring on the younger players like stones, barkley etc.
Interesting times ahead.
714 Posted 07/08/2013 at 08:22:49
719 Posted 07/08/2013 at 08:33:54
724 Posted 07/08/2013 at 09:00:26
Like us UTD will have to be patient, as a number of fans from both clubs will naturally be sceptical of a new man reaching the heights of the previous manager.
Obviously the pressure will be significantly higher over at OT so RM should get longer to prove if he can cut it from fans and board alike.
725 Posted 07/08/2013 at 09:13:10
It is not looking good, now, is it Toffees?
731 Posted 07/08/2013 at 09:26:03
735 Posted 07/08/2013 at 09:33:35
Here Here, talk about a one trick pony.
743 Posted 07/08/2013 at 09:32:53
If one or both leaves it will only exacerbate the already massive upheaval in coaching staff and playing style.
I can handle an indifferent start as the team adapt to a new way of playing and am actually expecting us to give away some dodgy goals at the beginning, ranging from giving the ball away in poor areas, to being caught on the break or just plain disorganisation. No doubt some will paint this as a doomsday scenario, which it wont be.
But it will be much more difficult if we lose one or both of the main lads. Baines would be a massive loss and as a defensive and attaacking unit we would need to readjust, it would again take time as others take on the repsonsibility.
The Fellaini bid appears inevitable, however im all for getting around 20 million for any holding player, we could do a lot of good with that and get the energetic, ball playing midfielder with legs that we need as well as another holder. If Fellaini goes we will definitely need 2 in the mid as Rodwell was never replaced in the squad and Phil Neville has retired.
If we lose both before the window it makes the start of the season a difficult one, especially in mid as we are already light in mid and there and the incoming player/s would need to adapt. Oviedo is different as at least he knows the drill here and has been through pre season with Martinez.
We have to drive a hard bargain. We must stand our ground. We have been walked over by United. It has to end and its paramount we show strength and self respect to the footballing world.
753 Posted 07/08/2013 at 10:13:55
I am licking my lips with anticipation as to what Roberto would do with this huge sum. Please let it be true. If Bainsey and Fellaini do go, added to the Rooney money, it is a massive amount for our club. Enough for a push for 4th place.
766 Posted 07/08/2013 at 10:50:17
Manchester United have taken the piss out of us and they know it. Now that the slimey arrogant Moyes is trying to steal Fellaini on the cheap we should try and regain some dignity and stand firm over a transfer fee. It's a wWorld Cup year, if Fellaini does well next summer we will be able to command an astronomical fee from Europe's top clubs.
If we lose Baines, well it will feel worse than anybody since Rooney. I hope we can keep hold of him.
774 Posted 07/08/2013 at 11:21:24
Also, why is there no speculation regarding Mirallas? It's strange that nobody seems to want a super fast, skilful proven premier league goal scoring winger. I in no way want him to go but I would have thought he'd be top of a lot of lists.
778 Posted 07/08/2013 at 11:44:04
783 Posted 07/08/2013 at 12:04:34
Who knows, maybe Moyes will put in a bid and surprise us all.
(if he went to Utd, I'd die laughing).
809 Posted 07/08/2013 at 14:07:39
852 Posted 07/08/2013 at 12:52:33
991 Posted 07/08/2013 at 19:02:47
032 Posted 07/08/2013 at 21:07:10
241 Posted 08/08/2013 at 12:04:19
254 Posted 08/08/2013 at 12:29:33
305 Posted 08/08/2013 at 15:40:33
He's one of the world's best players in his position. Why would you sell?
Some right bollocks spouted on here.
358 Posted 08/08/2013 at 18:38:16
360 Posted 08/08/2013 at 18:41:59
421 Posted 08/08/2013 at 21:06:09
584 Posted 09/08/2013 at 12:59:45
I would be devastated if we spent 8Mil on Tom Ince, I went to Preston Vs Blackpool on Monday night and he was woeful. I think 8 Million is for his surname. Not his ability.
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