Roberto Martinez interviewed by Colin Murray

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You can listen to Roberto Martinez in this 20-minute interview with TalkSport's kopite Colin Murray about coming to Everton, with their website picking out his comments on Ross Barkley having the ‘incredible combination' of talent and fearlessness.

Some interesting comments about the phenomenal fanbase, the incredible history, Everton's 'underestimated' squad, the fantastic youth system, the tremendous potential — and on the challenge of limited finances:

"I've never seen finances as an excuse or a limitation, of not tryng to achieve something in football. I do feel that money sometimes accelerates success, it allows you to do things quicker.

"But I wouldn't use the lack of funds as an excuse not to achieve. I think it's a matter of finding different ways and being more creative, and being more together as a football club to overcome those financial differences. You can find the ways to compete against anyone, even if it takes a longer process to get there."

Martinez claims the sky's the limit for the 19-year-old.

“Ross is a really talented footballer,” he told Colin Murray. “As a British player he is as talented as anyone you see.

“The balance he has with both feet is brilliant, and technically he's really gifted. You would see that technical ability with any Brazilian or Dutch player.

“He's a young man though and we need to allow him to fight through the normal process, which is gaining his first-team place and making sure he enjoys his football. At the moment he is doing that.

“I've been impressed with Ross' personality and character, he's such a humble boy, all he wants to do is listen and play. It's such a simple case with him. Nothing will phase him on a football pitch and, if you've have a talent like his, it's an incredible combination.”

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Frank Duffy
814 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:04:09
Great potential; let's hope it materialises.
Kevin Day
816 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:13:53
I bet Kenwright was foaming at the mouth if Martinez used his financial comments here in his initial interview to get the job.
Steavey Buckley
819 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:15:49
There is too much responsibility and expectation put on the shoulders of young Ross Barkley. When Everton are going into this week's derby game with so many players out of form (and not yet all back uninjured from international matches) and with 2 important members of the squad, Kone and Gibson, out injured for the whole season.
James Flynn
821 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:19:00
"You can find the ways to compete against anyone, even if it takes a longer process to get there."

Oh man! Did Kenright make him rehearse that line before he hired him?

James Lauwervine
823 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:35:35
I liked his lines about not managing by fear but by trust and inspiration. He's the kind of guy I would want to please if he was my boss, that's for sure.

He was way too nice about the RS though. He will hopefully come to realise that they embody all that is evil in the world.

James Lauwervine
824 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:49:38
Make that aspiration!
Patrick Murphy
825 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:43:27
James I think that particular comment was aimed more at his players, so they can't use the lack of money as an excuse for not winning football matches. I'd rather have a manager who realises that we are not able to compete financially with the top 6 clubs, but wants to win matches despite that gap in funding.

IMHO he is aiming to build the club from the bottom up and he is not the usual get the next game out of the way merchant - he accepts that the former manager has left a legacy and Roberto wants to leave his own legacy, a few years down the line, assuming he's given that long of course. I don't think he'll last the full 100 years though.

Mike Jones
826 Posted 18/11/2013 at 16:50:18
I can't see what's not to like about our new manager so far and not sure why some posters are giving him a hard time already
James Flynn
827 Posted 18/11/2013 at 17:08:51
Mike (826) - He manages a professional team of athletes. Getting a hard time from supporters goes with the territory. Who's going to give EFC players or manager a hard time; baseball fans in Los Angeles?

Barry Rathbone
828 Posted 18/11/2013 at 17:21:15
"I've never seen finances as an excuse or a limitation, of not tryng to achieve something in football....."

Classy the way he dismantles 10 years of fear with every statement; not sure if it's a deliberate pop at Moyes but it explains why some fans just can't cope with him.

Gerrin there Robbie take no shit,

Mike Jones
831 Posted 18/11/2013 at 17:45:18
James - 827. Does it? Why? And for what?
Brent Stephens
838 Posted 18/11/2013 at 18:02:49
Barry #828 "Gerrin there Robbie take no shit,"

Sin mierda!

Kevin Tully
839 Posted 18/11/2013 at 17:54:19
I don't see why we should excuse these highly paid International team of footballers either Roberto.

Are Fellaini, Lescott or Rodwell any better because they have had a massive pay rise?

This club pays enough, and is big enough to expect a return of some silverware for the supporters, and the players should be told they are expected to succeed.

They are bunch of bottle merchants, let's hope things change under this manager - starting on Saturday, and when we go to the Mancs.

James Flynn
840 Posted 18/11/2013 at 17:28:26
Barry (828) - Well done and selective.

"You can find the ways to compete against anyone, even if it takes a longer process to get there."

Roberto's "knives to a gunfight".

What the hell, at least Moyes is gone.

James Flynn
844 Posted 18/11/2013 at 18:14:12
Mike (831) - That Roberto is criticized or lionized is just here or there. Routine stuff.

All managers/head coaches, whatever sport, age or gender get criticized. It goes with the job.

Roberto's no different.

James Flynn
845 Posted 18/11/2013 at 18:14:12
Mike (831) - That Roberto is criticized or lionized is just here or there. Routine stuff.

All managers/head coaches, whatever sport, age or gender get criticized. It goes with the job.

Roberto’s no different.

James Flynn
846 Posted 18/11/2013 at 18:14:12
Mike (831) - That Roberto is criticized or lionized is just here or there. Routine stuff.

All managers/head coaches, whatever sport, age or gender get criticized. It goes with the job.

Roberto’s no different.

Barry Rathbone
851 Posted 18/11/2013 at 18:53:19
James 840,

Just didn't work did it?

But I see why you simply had to try, must be so tough for you lads.

James Flynn
853 Posted 18/11/2013 at 19:15:43
Barry - Haha. Not sure why that happened.

Anyway, it’s tough or it’s not. We’ll see this weekend and the weeks following.

Darren Hind
862 Posted 18/11/2013 at 19:24:11
"I’ve never seen finances as an excuse or limitation of not trying to achieve something in football".

Got to admire his front. He took over an established top half team and after barely averaging ten wins a season finally took them down after three seasons of complaining about the disadvantages.

After the past two games, I’d be happy if he sent this team out to achieve a worthwhile attack

Until this guys demonstrates he can walk the walk, he needs to stop taking the piss out of Evertonians everywhere by expecting us to swallow this crap.

Gaute Lie
865 Posted 18/11/2013 at 19:47:57
One thing is for sure, Roberto is a decent, nice guy. I've not paid much attention to him when he was at Wigan, but I sure do now. And I see a warm charismatic leader. As a opposite to that ginger fish-eyed Moyes, who would not get a hold of warmness or charisma if he searched all the way down to his backhole.

I do have to admit I wanted Moyes to stay. How glad I am now that he is gone. Never trust the ginger again. Cartman in the show "South Park" is right all along. The ginger people is not to be trusted. In fact, most of them are pure evil.

[I apologize to all ginger fans offended by my statement towards ginger people. I do really not mean to offend you guys, I just wanted to make you watch the show South Park — but I do state the fact that Moyes is a true ginger. And he's never to be trusted again!]

Barry Rathbone
866 Posted 18/11/2013 at 19:55:03
Darren

But he proved his point winning the FA cup.

Despite many trying to theorise "you win a cup you get relegated" they are mutually exclusive events; not every team winning a cup gets relegated similarly not every relegated club wins a cup!

By all means ignore the other factors re Wigan and eventual relegation (I can see with your bias why you would) but the fact remains he has already proved his words - let's hope he can do it here eh?

eh? .... eh? ......eh?.

Nick Entwistle
867 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:05:24
Ping pong, ping pong...
Denis Richardson
868 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:00:12
Jeez Darren, thats a bit harsh isn't it?

Would you rather he came out with the 'we have no money so cannot achieve anything' mantra? Or better still, 'my first aim is to get to 40 points and anything after that is a bonus?' Or the classic bullshit of 'knives to a gunfight? etc (Someone should make a T-shirt of the last one and we can all wear it when we beat the mancs later on!)

He needs to build up the players confidence and if he himself doesn't believe he can achieve anything then what's the point of him being here?

Fact is our entire first team, bar Distin, has played for their country so I don't see why we shouldn't think that we can win on Saturday. Liverpool have Suarez, who is world class, but one man does not make a team. Lukaku is not exactly a shite forward!

I'd much rather have uplifting comments made about the club than the depressing, defeatish shite that the former regime spouted everytime we were about to play one of the 'top' teams. We need to show some spirit and fight rather than the usual turn around, pull pants down and bend over!

Denis Richardson
869 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:14:41
Just had a thought that made me smile - would love us to beat the mancs and then for Martinez to wear a T-shirt saying 'Knives to a gunfight' at the post match interview...

I would piss myself...

Phil Walling
873 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:15:21
Ultimately, all managers are judged on results not soundbites. Martinez is no exception and whatever he says before and after the derby game it will be the score that counts.

After that it will be results against the other 'designer' clubs we shall look to and eventually whether or not he can improve on a sixth place finish in the Prem.

All the talk, his and ours, is bullshit and not worth the space it takes up.

Andy Walker
875 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:33:22
Yes I listened to this 'live' and couldn't help thinking how much time RM dedicated to bigging up our Ross. You don't think he could possibly be hoping for a nice fat offer to come in for him, do you?

Of course not... silly me; RM doesn't believe he needs the cash to compete.

Andy Walker
878 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:39:22
James 823. Couldn't disagree more, he's the type of guy who would make me feel I'm being manipulated.
Brent Stephens
880 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:48:08
Denis, would quite like to see him in ballet shoes and a tutu.
Darren Hind
885 Posted 18/11/2013 at 20:42:14
When Martinez won the cup he beat only two top flight teams to do it, us and City. Before those games, he had failed to beat either one of those two teams... ever.

Sorry but I’m worried about placing the future of our club in the hands of somebody some people admire so much on the basis of two wins.

As Everton manager he will never know the luxury of teams he has never beaten, thinking they only have to turn up. Nobody underestimates Everton to that degree. When you play Everton, you come with the right attitude.

People are perfectly at liberty to ignore all the times he failed to beat Everton or City, they are at liberty to think that winning those games makes Martinez a winner.

Personally I look at his record in the league (very poor) and feel he has it all to prove.

I once saw Kirkland Lang beat Roberto Duran...

Michael Kenrick
886 Posted 18/11/2013 at 21:19:32
Downplay it as much as you must, Darren, to fit your monotonous agenda, but winning trophies is what the game is all about. Martinez has done that with one of the greatest trophies in the game, and that means something. To characterise it as "two wins" in the FA Cup is pathetic, as you well know.
Gary Poole
889 Posted 18/11/2013 at 21:29:03
I think that we are entering a period in the season when, for me, the results are more important than a particular style of football. I can't bear the thought of losing against the RS and we then need to carry on picking up points in the next 3 fixtures (Stoke, Man Utd and Arsenal).

This is a really difficult period (a statement of the bleeding obvious!) and my concern is that, currently, we are simply just not shifting the ball quickly enough to beat at least three of these teams.

If we play as we did against Palace, then I think that we will have issues, irrespective of whatever the underlying philosophy is.

Now is the time, I think, for Roberto, to sit down, look at the opposition coming up and set us up to do a job on them. That may (and I think will) mean us playing differently – is that something that we are likely to see?

Darren Hind
893 Posted 18/11/2013 at 21:24:00
Would I rather hear "knives to gunfight"? Yes, Denis, absolutely mate and, I’ll tell you why...

I swear I never knew that quote caused so much anger until this year when I started logging on to TW and began to identify who the former MOB members were. Among people I mix with on matchdays, the comment was viewed very differently, it was generally believed that it was a thinly disguised attempt by Moyes to heap all the pressure on title-chasing City. City never beat Everton again... until Martinez got here and we surrendered so meekly.

I hated Moyes being our manager, he gave us such a miserable image. But if he was really shitting himself against City, How come his teams kept twatting them? Why did City accuse us of treating every game against them as a cup final? Why were we always snarling in their face’s? How come we beat them twice despite going down to ten men?

If Martinez told me we were taking a knife to a gunfight with Liverpool, I would tap my nose and think he’s got a few surprises in stall for the twats, but when he tells me we did really well at Palace and he doesn’t think money should be a reason for not succeeding... I’m sorry but I think he’s taking the piss out of me.

Dennis Stevens
895 Posted 18/11/2013 at 21:23:16
Wigan Athletic - 'an established top half team' ??!!
Danny Broderick
896 Posted 18/11/2013 at 22:06:03
Darren,

Moyes had a go at City, because he was angry at the way they took Lescott. He let the handbrake off, and we did well against them. Why did he never do that against Liverpool or Chelsea - even in games where they were reduced to 10 men? You can also add Man U and Arsenal to that list.

Give me Roberto any day.

Mark Frere
898 Posted 18/11/2013 at 21:54:27
"I've never seen finances as an excuse or a limitation, of not tryng to achieve something in football."

Well I suppose it depends on what Martinez is expecting to achieve, if he's talking about winning a domestic cup.....then, we might have a chance. Martinez himself has tasted glory in the FA Cup with more limited funds than he has here. Teams like Swansea, Portsmouth and Birmingham City have won domestic cups to prove teams outside of the money can win trophies in the money laden, PL era.

If Martinez is talking about challenging for PL title or being regular top 4 finishers, then forget it. Just look at the history of the PL – its only been won by teams with money. Teams qualifying for CL have always been sides with bags of money – us being the exception one season – Collina saw to our dreams being ended very quickly.

Of course, this is just a routine interview where a manager will talk any trivial BS, we shouldn't read too much into his comments. Let's do our talking on the pitch.

Harold Matthews
899 Posted 18/11/2013 at 22:04:49
Weird. I heard this interview on Sept 12th, ESPN. Different interviewer but same script.
Gary Poole
901 Posted 18/11/2013 at 22:18:33
Danny - I am concerned about going toe to toe with the teams in the next set of fixtures (you have to leave out the Derby cos that's a different type of match obviously).

Words are cheap and we didn't do anything against City a few weeks ago when, presumably, we tried this toe to toe approach. In fact we were made to look second best.

I'm not interested in playing pretty football and getting beat or playing boring sideways, suicidal across the back 4 football and drawing against the bottom team - what's the point. We're in a league and the objective is to get as high up as possible. That means cutting your cloth, setting your stall out, taking a knife to a gunfight (being fucking sneaky IMO) and coming away with points.

At the moment my daughter's under 14's team would know how to set up against us - press Jags and Distin, crowd our two holding midfielders and then wait for us to press the self destruct button. That's what the RS will do on Saturday and we need to be ready to do something different. I'm concerned that we won't though.

Sean Kelly
910 Posted 18/11/2013 at 22:58:22
All this 'sin miedo' and 'knives to a gunfight' is all bollocks. What we want on Saturday is 3 points and he can talk all the crap he likes afterwards. We haven't played well for 90 minutes all season except against Chelsea.

Roberto has been a breath of fresh air since he arrived but we are no better off at this point than we were under that dour ginger twat. Roberto needs to get angry and get the team wound up for Saturday.

We need to stop this 'nicely, nicely' shite and get mean as fuck with the other 19 clubs. It's about winning matches and getting as high up the table as possible. This 'nicey, nicey' tippy-tappy shite has its place but we need to change it a bit.

Plan B, Roberto... have you got one?

Also, Jags needs to attend the Keane School for Captains. Get in amongst them and let them know you are there for the points and don't take any shite from them or the ref. Just watch them on Saturday, they will be in the ref's face from the first minute.
That rat face cunt will be trying every trick around (biting and diving) to get an advantage and we will probably still be trying to be the fucking nice boys. "People's Club" bollocks.

Sorry for the rant but I can't stand those cheating ugly rat-faced inbred RedShite cunts. Three points please, Roberto, on Saturday and leave the media bullshit with smile for pre-season.

Toby Smith
911 Posted 18/11/2013 at 23:30:41
Roberto Martinez is well dressed, articulate, forward thinking, positive and tactically aware enough to make early substitutions. The polar opposite to the previous manager.

We may not always agree with his team selections, but what do people want? Would you seriously not have taken our first 11 game record of W5 D5 L1 at the start of the season? Saturday is huge but personally I love the guy.

We are gaining a reputation amongst fans of other clubs of moaning and groaning at GP when a pass goes astray (watch the Spurs game back (I know we were poor 1st half). I'm looking forward to seeing some passionate support 'from my seat' (Copyright Ken) in the Park End on Saturday.

Come on, let's get behind our beloved Blues. We all want the same thing. Put the shite to the sword. The AJ derby it may not be, but a scabby one-nil will do. We're Everton supporters, let's put the emphasis on SUPPORT!

Jamie Sweet
912 Posted 18/11/2013 at 23:50:18
Darren Hind... Wow, incredible stuff. What a complete load of unadulterated shite.

How convenient that you manage to be so very selective with all your facts and information. Yes, we had a great record against City. Care to explain away how we generally fared against the other top sides, particularly away from home?

And Wigan only won 2 games to lift the FA Cup? You really lose all credibility with spouting crap like that.

How about, Wigan won the FA Cup, despite being drawn away from home in every round, conceding only one goal in the process, winning at Goodison which no other team has managed in nearly 12 months, and ultimately triumphing over one of the most expensively assembled teams in the history of the game.

There are some actual facts for you to mull over while you think of what other selective snippets of information or made up shite you can think of in order to try and belittle our superb young manager.

What a plum.

Jim Harrison
913 Posted 19/11/2013 at 00:07:37
Standard interview stuff. If he manages to prove himself right and end the season truly in contention for 4th or above all the better, I just think like any sound bite from manager its just talk. A good run of results from the next 4 matches please to justify the statements would be great thanks!!

Money rules. As pointed out before, the FA Cup is possible without money to splash, but the league? Not a chance. City still have a reserve team that could give our first a run for its money.

That said, there are ways to get closer. Spurs sell their star, build a stronger squad. Arsenal used to use that model successfully until Wenger went mad and refused to let players leave for their top value and when the eventually went spent the cash on randoms. Only teams like utd who generate vast sums of money or bank rolled clubs like Chelsea and City can afford to hang on to players even when they are offered above market value.

Patrick Murphy
917 Posted 19/11/2013 at 00:29:15
Darren 893 you are absolutely correct that the quote by DM was used prior to a game with Man City; unfortunately, it resulted in motivating the Everton players so much that they lost by 2-0, so not quite the motivational speech you seem to believe. I trawled the net to find it and then realised that MK had included it in his match report for the game.
The quote from Moyes before this game — a fixture that Everton had won in the previous two seasons — was along the lines of, "It's like bringing a knife to a gunfight". Which turned into its own self-fulfilling prophecy.
I hope Goodison is bouncing on Saturday, before, during and after this game because after four weeks of almost total negativity – I like most other Blues want to have something to celebrate and leave the ground feeling proud of the team.
Ian Tunstead
918 Posted 19/11/2013 at 00:36:01
To be fair Jamie, I thought Darren was discussing the rationale behind the 'knife to a gunfight' quote which was in relation to the Man City fixture and has nothing to do with his record against the other top teams, which was why he probably conveniently left it out.
Harold Matthews
923 Posted 19/11/2013 at 00:44:43
Seems he's planning for the future but, judging by this thread, some fans are not ready to wait. Eighteen years without a trophy, a new man comes in and, hey presto, if he doesn't succeed straight away, he's out. Heaven help us.
Eric Myles
929 Posted 19/11/2013 at 04:50:58
Phil #873 "After that it will be results against the other 'designer' clubs we shall look to and eventually whether or not he can improve on a sixth place finish in the Prem."

It's not the results against the 'designer' clubs above us that's going to help us improve our position, it's how convincingly we beat the clubs at the other end of the table (Norwich, Palace etc.) just like the 'designer' clubs do.

Eric Myles
931 Posted 19/11/2013 at 05:17:42
Andy #875, my thoughts exactly, he's talking up his sale value.
James Lauwervine
938 Posted 19/11/2013 at 08:52:49
Andy 878, your comment surprised me at first. But then I saw your other comment re Ross and realised how you view things.
Andy Crooks
044 Posted 19/11/2013 at 21:18:22
Darren Hind, you have some interesting and pertinent points to make but you just bury them in nonsense. Describing Wigan as an established top half team is, at best , disingenuous. They were always on borrowed time in the premier league and to see Martinez as somehow tainted by their relegation is ludicrous.

"Sorry but I'm worried about placing the future of our club in the hands of somebody some people admire so much on the basis of two wins."

Come on, Darren, read that again. Who admires RM on the basis of two wins? When Moyes went we were going to be limited in who we could get as a replacement. Now, I think managing Everton is a wonderful job but many top coaches just might not agree.

Just where do you expect us to be right now? I believe that over time he will do a good job here. He's made a good start but I expect to be be joining others in giving him plenty of stick when we get the inevitable setbacks.That's what we do .

Ultimately, I believe his fate will depend on him keeping the heat of Bill Kenwright. Moyes was unsackable because he did just that.If that's enough to keep Moyes in a job for eleven years then Martinez deserves a decent shot at doing better.

Aman Kanji
079 Posted 19/11/2013 at 23:47:35
Sean #910

I agree, it is frustrating that we don't seem to have consistency throughout a game, and our passing from back to midfield is painful to watch, and easy to play (against) but don't forget RM (nowhere near 'our Roberto' yet) has only been with us for not even a tenth of the time our previous manager, who had the opportunity to shape, own and direct the teams.

I didn't fancy Martinez coming in and jury is defo still out, at least until I understand the 'philosophy' of football at EFC. I'm still very apprehensive before every game. We carry on playing as we are, we're due a real tonking soon...

Max Wilson
131 Posted 20/11/2013 at 15:28:59
Right now, on balance, we, us Toffees, are for Roberto. More importantly he seems to have the dressing room on side. When he arrived, I can show you proof that 80% of us wanted someone else. So at least he's made us give him a chance. And he's done just as well as Poacher Moyes. I so badly want us to go to Old Trafford and stuff United.

What next? We need to get rid of the Baines pain in the bum situation; get him replaced with similar quality (is it Alcaraz?) and improve our tactics and results. There's talk on the street of Lukaku staying with us. Toffee mates say he still has a lot to prove. I agree.

Saturday, one thing we now know; Roberto will have studied carefully how to manage the Reds. I hope we have the talent to follow his plans.

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