Everton hopeful over work permit for Funes Mori

It’s absolutely pathetic.

Both Fernando (now at Man City) and Ever Banega had permits approved, even though we couldn’t agree to sign them. You would of thought they would of had something in place before flying him over.

Still, the usual shambles, can't say I'm surprised!

But now it all just makes me laugh!! You truly could not make this up! Brilliant!! Keep it up ... When will Riquelme and Moutinho be linked??

Some striker Leandro??? No Premier League experience or even a high standard of football been played??? >{?And the Yarmelenko thing is crazy!!! This so called marquee signing just seems to be some sort of smokescreen for something!!! I hope I am wrong but I can see us being left disappointed and with egg on our faces when the window closes and then excuses like "we need the right character for our club".

Like I said, I hope I am wrong but so far it all seems a bit fishy????

By leaving everything until the last few days he is now probably our fifth or sixth choice.This is wholly down to leaving the transfer business until it is too late.

managers everywhere put their list of targets to the board at least a month before the transfer window opens.Other clubs did some business before their pre season games so that they could get the new players training with their new team mates.This is the best way to introduce a new player.

We are alone in leaving everything until the last few days and the only clubs who can afford to act in the same way are the mega rich clubs who already have strong enough squads.

The fact is we now have no experienced left back on the books. Oviedo seems to be unfit otherwise he would surely have been on the bench against City. We still do not have centre back cover unless Mori gets a permit.We still do not have the big signing of a top class number 10 which we have been crying out for.

I am totally dismayed at the bunglings of the board.Both Moyes and Martinez have been away on tours with the players and the men who are supposed to be closing the deals have failed the managers.

I honestly do not believe that any of the players we are presently linked with apart from possibly Yarmolenko were among the original targets.

How is it possible to justify leaving transfer business this late ?

Looks like a complete farce with the work permit, and the same will surely happen with the other South American we are "poised" to sign.

We’d be better served going back for Lescott, he can cover left back and centrally and has the all important Premier League experience.

Our boss has always stressed that incoming players must strengthen and support the ones we already have. No mention of an expensive Fancy Dan.

Mori might need some time to settle but could be brilliant for a relatively cheap price. If he doesn't work out I reckon we'll be able to shift him on to a Spanish club for a few mill anyway...

From BK's new production "Scamalot"

If ever we should sign you
It wouldn't be in summer
Signing you in summer
We never will know.

Oh know not in springtime
Summer, winter or fall
No never will we sign you
At all.

If you are going to take a flyer and argue the work permit issue on such a case then sensibly you have to do it much earlier in the window to give yourself room if the appeal gets rejected.

As for the Uruguayan striker I still can't believe that isn't a wind up. The league is rated 35 in the world, Scottish Premier is 21 and Tunisia and Bolivia are ahead of Uruguay! So its a massive jump and yet the guy doesn't even score 1 in 3. If it was his first season and he was banging goals in for fun, then maybe it would be worth taking a chance.

How have we ever managed to get transfers thru in the past with this group of idiots in charge?

Garay, Otamendi, Rojo, Campagnaro, Demichelis. These lads "only" made it to the World Cup final a year ago while the very English Jagielka bombed out at round one.

So WE last saw a good Argentinian centre half the last time any of us watched them. YOU on the other hand....

Arsenal had to go down this route in the last transfer window in order to secure a work permit for Gabriel Paulista, as he had never been capped by Brazil in any age group. Various things factor into it, such as age, transfer fee, length of contract and how likely said player is to make a positive contribution to the league he's looking to play in.

Arsenal obviously succeeded but, as John Crawley mentioned, the FA have since proposed constraints that they hope will help cut the number of non EU passport holders in the British game by up to fifty percent.

ps: Ignore the goal stats. This lad is not a main striker. He is intelligent, skilled and creative.

I read on another site (a lot more reliable than Wikipedia btw) saying that he’s scored 9 in 23 last season so I don’t think we should necessarily be too concerned about whether he has an eye for goal.

All the best to the potential newcomers and appreciate the efforts of the management, I say.

Because, if you have, you’ll understand that brow-beaten supporters are well within their rights to be cynical and pessimistic about the machinations of this once-great club’s transfer "policy".

Other than some posters pointing out some facts on the quality of the Uruguay league or the success of South American players in England, with both points effectively being true, I can’t see anything negative towards the players themselves.

Either you are being over sensitive or you're making an issue out of nothing. The fact is that the majority of Latino players, coming directly from either North or South America, have struggled to adapt the the English league.

I think most people would struggle to name five players who have been a success. Other than Oscar, Lucas Levia and going back to Juninho and maybe Ossie, Latino players have struggled. Even Wenger admits it takes a season for a Latino player coming in even from another European club to settle here in the UK.

Interesting that people have been banging on about Martinez not bringing in any 'unknown South American diamonds', yet now that he is, it's apparently a disgrace because no one's heard of them. Who'd be a football manager.......

Years of supporting Everton should condition every fan to expect misery with the odd ray of sunshine.

And Latino-phobic???

As you posted at 3:07 am, I can only guess you were pissed up.

Regarding the work permit, you would hope EFC looked into the chances of one being issued once the contract was finalised.

However, we have form on this issue, don’t we.....

Whoever did the deal must have known the rules so why bother if it was never going to work out? It does just makes us look like a joke really.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/blog/scouts-notebook/78/post/2580274/funes-mori-needs-time-to-shine-for-Everton-in-premier-league

If it's going to take him the best part of a season to get to his peak which ultimately may be a million miles from good enough, would we not be better off sticking with Galloway and Browning who are probably further ahead of him in being ready for the PL?

My point is that article suggests that he may just not be good enough when he eventually does find his feet.

Lescott?

What about the Ever Banega deal where we managed to get a work permit approved only to find out that the parent club hadn't agreed a fee and Ever Banega didn't even know anything about it?

Classic

"As soon as I heard Everton were in for him I thought no, no, no and shook my head."

"He isn’t good enough, He isn’t strong enough, He isn’t fast enough."

He also said he had never shown anything to suggest he is up to standard to come over to the Premier League. I think he also questioned his temperament but I cant be sue.

Okay, so he's a journalist and not a specialist scout but he seems to talk sense usually and was excellent during the World Cup. Focusing on Brazilian and Argentinian footbal,l I will take his view over some other hacks until I can make a decision for myself, which may or may not come about.

However, it may be a blessing.

On the bright side, I’ve seen the match against Man City here in Argentina with some friends and our opinion was unanimous: In this team Funes Mori is a solid starter. (Several journalist on Twitter said the same.)

You take Vickery’s opinion over other hacks? At least most of those ’hacks’ are qualified journalists... even if they do spout bollocks.

Vickery is a know-nothing, who is only consulted because he’s a Brit in South America. A Brit who is consulted on Brazilian, Argentine, Chilean, Paraguayan, Columbian and even Mexican domestic AND national football affairs. Do you really think he has a clue what is going on outside of Boca Juniors?

Add to that how wildly wrong he has been on so so many ’promising’ players.

I hope we sign him and I’m confident he’s fucking brilliant purely because Vickery says he isn’t.

Incidentally, Galloway is too left-sided. He can only go wherever his left boot points and it gets him and us in all sorts of trouble. Even Distin could turn both ways. This lad can’t, even when the other way is the easier option. It’s clockwise every time. Painful for the knees and painful to watch.

But oh no, this is Everton after all. Nine times League Champions, founder members etc etc etc... reduced to laughing stock and mid-table mediocrity by a clandestine board of chancers and yes-men.

Lennon on loan and Evans in next Tuesday it is, saving Bill a week's wage for both. If we’re lucky. Lol

Why do you think they gave Martinez a job? And, after last season, any other club would have sacked him.

This time next week, it will be all over; no matter who comes in or out, there will be lots to debate.

Don’t get me wrong: I’m hooked on TW, love the diverse views... but really hate the saying "in my opinion" – the very fact you post is your opinion, it’s like your either apologising or fishing for approval. Just write what you think and leave ot the "imo". Please moderatetors ban anyone who says "in my opinion". Haha!

You seem surprised I would take his opinion over the opinion of people who "spout bollocks" in your words.

I gave no opinion asides from MAYBE it's a blessing – I just detailed what I heard, didn't offer an opinion.

For the record, I would take the opinion of someone based in the region over those "hacks", who seemingly are only concerned about 4 teams in England plus Barca, Real and Bayern.

That’s a bit harsh on Galloway, isn’t it? Give the young lad a chance, he’s been involved in only 5 Premier League games so far.

I imagine the only other signing will be Lennon at the very last minute, so no Number 10 playmaker who Martinez said he needed 3 months ago.

Another pitiful transfer window!

He’s not even that. Just some bloke who taught English in Brazil and managed to position himself as an ’expert’ on Brazilian football, purely by virtue of being the only Brit on the block.

The way he’s constantly been laying into this particular player shows he’s got something of a personal stake in the matter now. He made a big deal about the guy not being good enough when the first rumours of a possible Everton bid begun to emerge and he vocally doubted it was true. Once the story was proven to have legs, he basically had no choice but to keep on with the over-the-top criticism, because he’d already backed himself into a corner by painting a Premier League career for this particular player as pure fantasy.

There are other, more complimentary, assessments of the player out there that contradict Vickapedia’s (as he apparently likes to be known.... Fuck me!) view that Mori is basically a bin liner full of mammoth shit on stilts though.

It was suggested by some that it was possibly misleading to view him as a fully fledged Argentina International, because the player could be nothing more than a space filling, one cap only, call up to the squad. Yet the manager who picked him went so far as to say he was the best young defender in the league and "represents the future of the national side".

Sure, there’s no guarantees he wouldn’t be gash for us, but there’s also no concrete proof he couldn’t be class for us. Whatever the merits of the player, I certainly wouldn’t be prematurely making my mind up about Mori solely off the back of some concerted campaign by Vickery to convince everyone he’s fucking shite and a nailed on flop before he’s even set foot on the pitch.

Sign me up and send me my membership badge, Phil.

My view was that the swop was scuppered some weeks ago but he was adamant it was sound info. It might have some legs if Kev doesn't figure on Sunday!

Cleverley was a very smart buy so we didn’t pay much but we got a lot of value... somewhere between £15-20M. This is before these two chaps, who I’m not fazed over.

The number 10 is the only guy I wanted so I should be angry but, with the way Barkley is playing and RM trying out 4-4-2, I have hope..

Unfortunately, his reluctance to turn anti-clockwise has put us in trouble on more than one occasion. He'll know about it of course, so will the coaches. Hopefully, with plenty of work at Finch Farm, he'll put things right.