Gibson signs new deal at Everton

We need to stop being sentimental and ask this question when thinking about contracts and signings "would this player get into Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, RS?" If the answer is negative then get shut or do not sign.

I can only think we want to sell him for money rather than releasing him for free. What's next, McGeady the first to get £100k a week?

Better be appearance/fitness based pay...

When he's fit (which is all too rare) he's one of the best passing midfielders we have. Still think he should have been heavily punished for the drink driving though.

I can live with it though as long as that waster McGeady does one out the Exit door. Martinez had some kind of deluded vision that he was a top class player, tried to sign him for Wigan before he unfortunately shipped up on our doorstep.

I watched him for years with Celtic & my national team and always came to the same conclusion, overrated, overpaid &, a lot of the time, overweight. Free transfer to Cowdenbeath with the taxi fare thrown in.

However - I have lost patience with him and would rather give his "pitch time" to young Davies or Ledson to develop them. I think they'd be a safer investment.

Very disturbing.

Besides, the only other backup for Barry and Macca is Besic, who is just as fragile. And none of the young guys coming up are defensive mids. So I'd say it's a reasonable precautionary signing if he's not expensive.

That's some record, his signing will have the Premier League shaking in their boots.

However, I am surprised he wants to stay. I would have expected him to look to move on to another club to get a regular start.

Interesting times, especially with the crop of younger players appearing on the scene.

Only thing I can think is that they done it so they can sell him in the January window, rather than let him leave for nothing.

Apparently he turned down other clubs to sign a new contract with us.
Who?? No one else would touch him.

No disrespect to the Irish team, but they ain't one of the best teams around, when Everton fans are expecting bigger things with better players for next season. And I do believe Darron Gibson is not one of them.

I'm more concerned with his representation of the club given his recent legal problems. Tbh, I'd have sacked him over that.

Yep, this is the club looking to bank a few quid down the line I would say.

If he's healthy (and sober) some club could take a punt for a small fee. As much as its gone to waste, he does have talent.

On the other hand, who knows what Koeman's view will be once he's seen the players in pre-season training.

If the guy can just stay fit then I believe he has a chance of making the team, I'm Irish and I genuinely believe he's better then McCarthy who is highly over rated and had a stinker all year with pathetic displays.

If he can't make the team next season at the very least he would be a great sub to deploy and just sit in front of the CB's, he was under used last season because Martinez didn't believe in defence or holding on to winning margins.

In the meantime he offers cheap back-up, knows the team, probably a decent influence in training for the young lads.

" he's been stealing a wage for far to long now" - disgusting comment.

Gibbo strides into Grand Moff Kenwrights office wearing a simple hooded cloth Robe.
BK "Ah, Darron ! Glad that you're here, come in.... Bit awkward this I'm afraid. I'm sure that you'll understand that the club really has little option but to let you....."
DG (mystically waves hand in Grand Moff Kenwrights face) "20 grand a week for two years".
GMK "So, how does 20 grand a week for two years sound ?"
DG (whips out Mattel light sabre pen)

This is genuinely not a dig at you (specifically) but personally, I'd ban any 'I heard' comment not accompanied by an accompanying link or some attempt at substantiation (I've read a few 'I heard' comments in the last 24 hrs)

We (quite rightly) knock the rags for their nameless 'a source close to..', 'an insider has revealed..', 'a family friend stated' bollocks.

I think from an accuracy perspective, we (certainly on TW) would benefit if 'I heard' had to be followed by from'

Just helps us (all) form an opinion.

Eg: 'I heard from Moshiri's brother' = wow!

'I head from Moshiri's mam's gardener's mate's grocer's cleaner' = as fucking if.

Then the bubble of optimism is soundly blown .
I said at the time(not on here) that Everton had a chance to make a stand and get shut of him after the drink driving debacle.
Now by all accounts we have a tough, no nonsense man in charge, we give him a new two year contract. Hardly a statement of intent nor is the rumoured speculation surrounding Pelle.
Typical Everton, love you dearly but sometimes you do my head in

Either that or Kenwright asked Martinez for his list of retained players before he got the sack and Gibson's name was on it.

Now Bobby the Physio has gone the new manager will actually work on getting players fit by running, jumping etc and this will benefit Gibson?

I was actually told last week that Gibson was going to be offered a new one year contract which I genuinely did not believe by the same person.

I do agree with you that it is unfair without backing up "hearsay" rumours, so perhaps in future I will refrain from this unless given permission by the people who pass the information to me.

Better not be or he'll starve to death. What I'd like to know is who is agreeing to these deals? After all it's not like we've got a manager right now.

What about this brave new world and aiming for the stars that we've been reading about for the last few days?! I think we've had our wings clipped with a touch of realism with this news.

He will likely be a sub player but I am surprised we offered him a new contact

Admirable.

Unless he's signed for massively reduced wages, or pay as you play in the literal sense. I don't see how it's admirable for Gibson to do us a favour by signing another deal. I'm sure he'll still be picking up 10's of thousands to stay on the gravy train.

Have we a new DoF we don't know about yet?

He's playing for free then is he? That's fantastic, what a nice man to sign for two year's and not be paid, just so he can repay us for the three years he has been paid and done nothing.

That's restored my faith in man, or have I misread your post?

How many of the rest of those popularly and justifiably expected to have their services dispensed with are we going to be similarly stupid with?

Gibson can ping it as far as he likes - but it's only any good if he does it for 30-plus games a season.

Unfathomably nonsensical decision. We continue to be a charity for unwanted (manager's) pets it seems.

If Osman gets another two years, I'll fully expect David Moyes to be unveiled in a shower of Finch Farm confetti and fireworks next week!

Those who remember Koeman the player will know that Gibson (on top of his game) is about the closest thing we have to him.

Not comparing the two in terms of health, determination, professionalism, but there are similarities, both men liked to sit deep and read the game, but more than capable of switching play with long accurate passes and both were far happier when the game played in front of them.

Anybody who has watched Gibbo on one of his better days will know that its not his ability which is being called into question. Maybe RK witnessed one of these rare games and made note

Just a thought

How can he "pay back" what he hasn't got to give. Since he has been at Everton he has played an average 12 games a season, and as he gets older his injuries will get worse, if he had more money than Mr Morishi he could not pay back what he owes this club.

Soppy BK is still calling the shots and keeping the arse lickers close at hand.

Brave new world ? It's bollocks if this is anything to go by !

My guess is that his contract wasn't extended without Koeman's go ahead.

I like the thought of him giving it the okay and saying, steely-eyed "I'll sort him out."

Not the worst decision to keep him and he is the only "talker" in the squad.

How anyone can be so angry/distraught with him signing a new deal is beyond me.

Just hope he can stay fit......

Good player but no longer an athlete. Wasted salary. Also, Pelle seems a strange one unless he is a backup striker.

Neither of these players hint at the sea change that the media have suggested is on the cards.

If Moshiri is genuinely going for the top 4 I am afraid he will have little choice but to run the club as a business, with all the lack of sentiment that often entails.

I'm sure Gibson thinks he's worth at least a couple of mill if he stays fit so imdoubt hell see it as a blocker to his career. Leeds, Newcastle etc could be a good fit. He'll also get a nice cut of the transfer fee.

Surely a new Manager would want to have a say or determine who stays and who goes?

Then, I guess, who negotiates the deal and again, who approves it?

Just need someone to put me straight on this.

The lad is only 28, is not costing bling bling money and can be an effective sub when available. He would also appear to be good around the dressing room so why let him go on a free.

He would fetch a couple of million so the contract is hardly breaking the bank is it.

I also think Gibson has been around long enough to know that when a new manager is coming in nothing can be guaranteed. He may of course be backing himself to impress Koeman, another reason to sign as far as Gibbo is concerned perhaps.

It's all guess work on my part, but as you say I think the key is mutual benefits.

He has played twelve times in the last three years, that is in any competition for Everton, four times a year on very good wages, I could have done that and I would have at least brushed up and been handy at going on messages.

Come on Mr. Moshiri start getting the whip out, I've been counting on you.

Any unfit so-called professional could do what this guy has done over the past three years... virtually nothing. He stunk the place out playing for his country a few days ago and it is mind boggling that he continues to get paid buy a club which is supposed to have ambition.

I repeat: I am disgusted!! I would rather see Osman and Pienaar kept rather than him and they are also well past their sell-by date.

If this deal makes perfect commercial sense to you don't ever go into share trading.

The deal is bizarre.

Closed my buy spread bet on Genel yesterday by the way at 1.30pm. If your a trader you'll know what that means. Thanks for the advice though.

Back to football again, he would be an attractive asset to a lot of smaller EPL clubs, recently promoted ones, or Championship teams with promotion aspirations.

The alternative is that Moshiri is a naive businessman who pisses his money down the drain, or doesn't know what's going on in the club. I don't accept either.

Good luck with your spreadbetting. You'll need it.

Doubt he's been given a contract so we can sell him, every manager in the country knows his injury record. Predict he'll be spending most of the next two years where he normally does, on the treatment table (if he's not crashing into petrol stations!).

Really poor move by the club imo - waste of wages with a few kids coming through. The guys must have earnt about 6m over the last 3 years doing next to fk all. Really cannot believe we've given him another contract and two years at that!

Doubt he's been given a contract so we can sell him, every manager in the country knows his injury record. Predict he'll be spending most of the next two years where he normally does, on the treatment table (if he's not crashing into petrol stations!).

Really poor move by the club imo - waste of wages with a few kids coming through. The guys must have earnt about 6m over the last 3 years doing next to fk all. Really cannot believe we've given him another contract and two years at that!

Gibbo is gold when he's healthy in my opinion. His range of passing is superlative, and he's one hell of a footballer.

But...

Some athletes are just simply injury prone. Look at USA National and Bolton ex-player Stuart Holden. Wonderful player who simply had crap knees. Same thing here - Gibbo's body for whatever reason is prone to injury. I'd never spend a lot of money on a player who simply is prone to injury.

It's a business, and the players are investments. Gibbo, as much as I like him as a player, will most likely get hurt.

I pray we didn't pay a lot for him resigning.

Can't believe he's still only 28. I remember commenting that he must have had a tough paper round back when he was 26 and that feels like a decade ago!

If he stays injury free, then a great asset; if not, we can sell and recoup some of the wages, so win-win for me...

I am not writing Gibson off just yet - I reckon he is a good footballer and he is only 28.

Welllll, I'm going to take his signing and, more specifically, this thread as a positive indication of a near-miraculous, newly-discovered "endurance" for young Darren. We MUST keep him.

This season will display, finally, a fit Gibbo fulfilling his promise. At Everton. Unless Koeman sees it differently.

Talk about a ToffeeWeb tempest in a teapot.

Fucking pathetic to be blunt.

What next, Ossie, Hibo, and Pienaar?

We need to push on by moving dead wood who play 10 or leas games a season out.

No way that Koeman would have any say in this.

Could have been a top premier league player, so it's a shame.

To just dismiss them after their years of service to the club is disgraceful. Fans demand loyalty from players but are quick to get rid of them after a bad year. Rubbish!

"I'll join, but don't make the Gibson contract look like it was my decision"

Thought he would've been shown door, oh well, let's see if he can spend more time on the pitch than the mascots next season.

I really don't get the outrage expressed by some on here for making sure Gibbo is on a contract. He must be worth £2m of anyone's money, even at £1m we'd make money. Moshiri isn't an idiot, it's his commercial judgement and I back him. Clubs are desperate to keep players that have ANY value on the transfer market, on a contract. This comes down to one simply question, does Gibbo have a value in the transfer market? I happen to think he does, unlike Osman, Hiibo or Pienaar.

Really don't think I'm taking an extreme position here, but based in the reaction of some you'd think we'd just signed Robbie Savage.

First, he's got a contract tied to number of appearances.

Second, there's a belief that better fitness coaches will keep him fit. Wouldn't bet on that, but he is only 28.....

Third, there's a belief that we can make a profit selling him, especially if he's on an appearance-based contract.

We're not Arkwright's corner shop any more. He's a good squad player. If the youngsters are better they'll leapfrog him.

This is a new era for the club, and somebody has to be ruthless and get rid of the excess baggage. It's not pleasant and goes against the current ethos of the club to be like this. However, you either need to stake your claim for potential greatness or drown in a sea of mediocrity.

Agree with your point about the midfield, if we don't buy a top quality creative midfielder ( not Gibson ) we can forget any thoughts of a high finish.

He is not an asset, he is a liability !

Andy et al: there is zero chance he's been re-signed as a transfer asset. He would not have been sold at all this summer as his contract was due to run out this month. Anybody that interested in Gibson was eligible to offer him a pre-contract last January. If any of the clubs he's been talking to had offered him a better deal than us, he'd have taken it. Let's assume that he's been offered a base salary of £20k plus incentives and will play at best a handful of games between now and January. That's 500k in salary, minimum. I'd be shocked if anyone ordered more than £2m for a player who's entire career has been one long series of injuries. Why bother for, at most £1.5m? Pointless. No-one wanted him permanently last Winter, just loan offers. No commercial sense to re-sign him whatsoever.

Osman wants to continue playing so will be leaving. Hibbert should retire and I do not believe he's taken any coaching qualifications so neither will be incorporated into the backroom staff.

Some of the faux outrage on here is a little strange.

Let's look at this for what it is.

We will have quite a number of players either moving on or hanging up their boots this summer.

We have an International on our books who when/if fit is certainly an asset to the team.

The powers that be have decided it's a risk worth taking and kept him on.

What's the problem? Nothing to do with having no ambition, he is a squaddie and will be used as such.

As for blocking youngsters, if they are good enough, they are old enough. It won't be Darron stopping them playing, but the manager thinking that they are not ready/good enough for the first team.

I don't have a problem with him being given a few more years. Hopefully he will do a Gray/Reid type resurrection season for us and play out of his skin for 20/30+ games.

Strange reason to start claiming all doom and gloom.

If not, and he can only play in fits and starts, I guess the contract will reflect that. Who knows what'll happen with his fitness but its well worth a try. I'm sure that EFC have considered all these aspects . and spoken with Koeman, before offering a contract.

Maybe, with the right regime, he can overcome his obvious physical frailties and become if not a regular starter then a regular impact substitute. I believe in recycling, let's give him a chance, it probably won't cost us a lot.

Someone to wait in the wings in case Ryan Ledson, Tom Davies, Liam Walsh, Joe Williams & Kieron Dowell are all unavailable!