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Steve Hogan
1 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:33:20
Each time we see the tentative green shoots of recovery, only for it to be followed by a pretty dismal display in the next game.

Let's hope the players gain some much needed confidence from this display, taking into account a familiar lethargic first half performance. Let's hope another Lukaku goal keeps his detractor's quiet for another couple of days or so.

The way he brushed aside the 'man mountain' Wes Morgan was a joy to watch. I'm still of the opinion that, in a better team, with someone alongside him, he would be a more consistent force.

Onwards and upwards.

Alun Jones
2 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:33:57
Good to see Mirallas playing a more central role, for him to take some of the scoring burden he needs more game time in that role. I'm all for Koeman trying some different formations and today this one worked.
Christopher Timmins
3 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:36:05
Lyndon, lets hope the last paragraph of your report comes to pass. One thing for certain after the last couple of games is that Barry and Jags will have reduced roles to play going forward.
Andrew Lum
4 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:39:37
Oh what fun indeed! Especially after a rather poor first half display.

I really enjoyed watching Tom Davies play in the second half. There was a moment when he tried to release Lukaku with a pass with the outside of his right foot. That was pure class.

With McCarthy injured and Barry not able to play twice in a week, I hope Koeman starts with Gana and Davies in the middle against Hull.

Trevor Lynes
5 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:43:50
Nice description of the game. If we can hang on to Lukaku and find proper support for him then the prospects of a decent end to the season are reasonably bright. However, we badly need a player who has the extra class to get the best out of Lukaku, Barkley and whoever else we have in attack.

We need a 'real' play maker plus a Vardy type of second striker who can hit double figures each season. Defensively we do seem to find youngsters but creativity and goal scoring is another matter. I reckon Holgate will eventually make the first team and replace the Stones loss.

Perhaps young Davies can develop in midfield and save us some money. It is a great shame that Bolasie suffered his horrendous injury as it leaves us short out wide. Let's hope that Mirallas has a much better end to this season and finds a few goals as Lukaku is our only threat up front.

John McGimpsey
7 Posted 27/12/2016 at 08:59:39
Oh dear... and not a mention of how Ross looked towards Big Rom and hit a pass the media would have been touching themselves for a month had it been Slippy G.
Kevin Gillen
8 Posted 27/12/2016 at 09:11:20
Two great goals – whatever else is said about our performance.
Rick Tarleton
9 Posted 27/12/2016 at 10:55:17
Lukaku scored the kind of goal that is his trademark, ball in front of him, out-muscle a defender a not too deft shimmy and a good finish. He is ideally suited to the counter-attacking role.

Ideal ball for him from our young midfielder, Barkley.

Barry Pearce
10 Posted 27/12/2016 at 11:01:07
I really hope Koeman now realises that Davies should be in the matchday squad. He's always done more than okay when he has played.

I believe most Evertonians see it this way.

Great 3 points, by the way.

Simon Jones
11 Posted 27/12/2016 at 11:20:14
Take out the fact that it was the Dark Side we lost to, last three games, two wins against a top 6 side and last year's Champions... close loss to the team that went second.

Is my recently increased alcohol consumption helping me to be more optimistic, or have we genuinely improved?

Sam Barrett
12 Posted 27/12/2016 at 11:37:49
Simon @11, I wish it was that easy forgetting the defeat to the RS!

All-in-all, if it wasn't for an injury time spawny goal, we'd have 7 from the last 9. I'd happily swap defeats to Arsenal and Leicester for a win against our lovable neighbours though!!

Footy ain't great at the moment but some good recent results.

Kieran Fitzgerald
13 Posted 27/12/2016 at 11:43:07
Ten league goals for Lukaku already this season. Makes you wonder what might be with the right service and/or more effort from the player himself.

The game against Hull has come at just the right time. Stick with the same players from yesterday, please.

Paul Thompson
14 Posted 27/12/2016 at 12:05:46
After week 18 last season, we had 26 points and were 9th. This season we have 26 points and are 7th. As you were then? Obviously not.

The simplest difference is that we are both conceding fewer and scoring fewer. The real difference is that this season is that an ageing and underperforming the team is being slowly rebuilt. The dismal first half showed how far we have to go.

The better second (resilient defence, promising youngsters) shows the potential. We have to be patient – this is a transition season.

Ian Bennett
15 Posted 27/12/2016 at 12:17:48
An assist and a clean sheet; I hope Robles keeps his place. He might not be the best, but his clean sheet record to games can't be bad.

He can feel a bit hard done by if he does get dropped – it won't be the first time over the last couple of years where he's done his job and been rewarded by watching Star Jump Tim and the Stek ship the goals in.

Rob Halligan
16 Posted 27/12/2016 at 12:28:28
I agree with you, Kieran, about the number of goals Lukaku might have, given the right service. Another striker alongside him would greatly help as well.

I have just watched the highlights of yesterdays game on sky, albeit only about 20-25 minutes worth. Out of interest, I made a note of the touches Lukaku had.

In the first half he won one clear header and lost one clear header. He had two good controls of the ball and no poor controls. There were three good passes to a teammate with no poor passes to a teammate.

In the second half, the highlights showed one good control of the ball, with no bad ones. Three good passes to a teammate, one which should have led to a goal and one bad pass. His goal he obviously created for himself.

I know this is only a small reflection on the game, and indeed it's ONLY one game, but it appears to show his control and aerial ability is not as bad as people make out, but I agree that it could be better.

I was at the game yesterday and obviously can't remember every single touch, pass and header by Lukaku. There may well have been other good and bad touches, passes etc, just as in other games where he has good and bad moments but hey, nobody's perfect!!

Danny O'Neill
17 Posted 27/12/2016 at 13:32:38
Kieran, Rob, both raise a good point. I, for one, think Lukaku needs support; he's not a lone striker and never will be. He won't hold play up as he's not that type of centre forward. He's not a striker who can operate in isolation, no matter how hard he works.

I for one don't like my strikers to be "hard workers"; it reminds me of Marcus Bent & Andy Johnson; we become more obsessed with them running the channels rather than doing what we want them to do –be ready and available to score when they are presented with the opportunity.

Lineker (in my opinion) was a pretty average player; didn't like a tackle, wasn't a target man, didn't hold up play and could barely make a pass. He did however have Graeme Sharp supporting him and a midfield that supplied him. Most importantly, he scored goals.

That's what Rom does. Could he score more? Of course, but then again, name me a striker who couldn't if we're going to analyse them critically.

Separate point but what a great pick from Barkley at the end. I read on another link that someone believed it to be a lucky punt (referring to him as a horse in the same sentence)! Whilst I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking his pass would create a goal, he done what most of us have been screaming out for our players to do; protect a slim lead in the dying moments.

Has the ball in our box, spots Lukaku in the opposition half and plays it to him. Sensible & clever play to retain possession but more importantly, thinking percentages in terms of territory vice playing in an area that can hurt us should it not come off. He gets enough stick on here but credit where its due for showing maturity. The goal was just a bonus.

Finally I hope Leon Osman was watching the 2nd after his pre-match comments on 5-live yesterday regarding Rom and not showing his physicality enough! Valid point – but that was Lukaku at his best IMO.

Terry Underwood
18 Posted 27/12/2016 at 13:36:31
Can we learn a lesson here? Give Rom the ball to run onto and there is a fair chance of a positive result. When he got the ball, there was still plenty to do and he doooed it, big style.

COYMB

Nicholas Ryan
19 Posted 27/12/2016 at 13:42:10
Curious thought: had we drawn 1-1 with Arsenal, and Liverpool and Leicester, we probably would have thought that was a decent run of results, and we'd have had 3 points.

We're going round screaming in frustration about losing the derby game ... yet we have 6 points!!

Robles is better than Stekelenburg. Tom Davies is the future.

If Rom scored all the goals he is capable of; he would have been sold to Barca, Real, Bayern or PSG for £80m long ago.

Rob... you need to get out more!

Happy Christmas, everyone!

Patrick Murphy
20 Posted 27/12/2016 at 13:46:44
Just saw a quiz question asking which Everton player prior to Rom got into double figures for four seasons on the trot? I didn't get it right, but the said player got double figures for five consecutive seasons.
Rob Halligan
22 Posted 27/12/2016 at 14:35:08
Without looking it up, Patrick, is the answer Tony Cottee?
Patrick Murphy
23 Posted 27/12/2016 at 14:42:52
That's who I thought it might be Rob, I'll put you out of your misery it was Adrian Heath apparently. (5 straight seasons, 82-83 to 86-87)
Danny O'Neill
24 Posted 27/12/2016 at 15:03:01
Wouldn't have got that, Patrick!
Ray Roche
25 Posted 27/12/2016 at 15:09:58
Danny (#17)

When you mention Barkley's pass (not punt) to Lukaku, well, that passage of play illustrates perfectly what Ross is all about. Looks up, sees Lukaku and hits a first time peach of a pass without having time to think.

Acting on instinct, Barkley really is a diamond, put him in a team with zero movement where he HAS to dwell on the ball and he looks a poor player. Let's play to his strengths, not his weaknesses.

David Hallwood
26 Posted 27/12/2016 at 15:28:08
Great read, as ever, Lyndon-but once again more questions than answers against, what goes down (and the way they're playing, they might) as a piss-poor Leicester side.

Once again, a dire first half and, once again, Lukaku isolated. Surely Koeman must have realised that Rom isn't a Costa or Mark Hughes, shielding the ball back to goal and laying it off to the runners, he isn't a John Fashanu or Big Dunc, who relishes aerial battles, but get him running onto a ball and he's a world beater.

Also that Barry, a true professional and a credit to the game, but cannot compete any longer in midfield and that Davies needs to be integrated into the first team.

Also, we look better as a counter-attacking side, and it must be remembered that last season we had the 2nd highest goals for until the wheels fell off, and if Bobby wouldn't have been so obsessed with possession and a total disregard for defence we might've got a Champions League spot.

Maybe what we needed was a pragmatist who would only have tinkered at the margins; accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative, but FFS don't mess with Mister In-Between – where's Bing when you need him.


Michael Winstanley
27 Posted 27/12/2016 at 15:36:05
A fair report, Lyndon.

I haven't watched us lately... wow, were we poor until we scored. Complete absence of any proper football, zero creativity, no shots on goal and Leicester were no better.

Lukaku, I've given up on him running about and pressing from the front, waste of time and energy. Play the ball for him to run onto and we have a player, that's his strength. Lumping it up to him with expectations of him holding it up or flicking it on are pointless, that's not his game.

We were set up to defend yesterday and maybe nick a goal on the break through individual skill. There was nothing on show to demonstrate what happens at Finch Farm during the week, no joined-up footy around the opposition box.

Route one for our first, great finish by Kev. Lukaku's goal summed him up, brilliant play and cool finish. In many respects it was a great performance and result, away at the Champions who'd beat Man City 4-2 previous game.

Holgate has to start, he's a player. Williams was awesome yesterday, more of that please and if it means playing three at the back to get that level of performance then cool. Funes Mori, a player I think will do something daft in a game, is looking more and more like a decent defender so happy days.

Our forward play is terrible, no support for the player with the ball, lack of bodies in the box, usually one option to pass to hence the ball often goes back. Easy to be critical of Mirallas and Lennon but their duties were mainly to defend. Seamus did okay but a lack of end product let him down whilst Baines rarely had anyone to pass to. Special note to their left back, cracking game from the lad.

Davies came on and added energy, flair and movement, he could start. But the player who stood out for me was Barkley, he brought a composure on the ball and whilst he didn't do anything amazingly standout, he just looked like the best player on the pitch.

Finally a special word for Robles, what a lovely sight to see a keeper come and get the ball, didn't look troubled throughout the game, long may that continue.

Hope everyone had a cracking Christmas.

John G Davies
28 Posted 27/12/2016 at 15:48:19
Would anyone have refused if offered 7th position at this stage of the season?
Danny O'Neill
30 Posted 27/12/2016 at 17:52:59
Hear, hear, Ray!

Hopefully he's not going to become one of those pundits that spends most of his time criticising his ex-mates just to get air time, Brian.

Steavey Buckley
31 Posted 27/12/2016 at 18:16:54
Everton are still lacking confidence away from home, even though Leicester yesterday were quite poor. This is because the midfield don't get a grip and push the opposition back into their own half.

Even though both Coleman and Baines were given the opportunity to get forward and attack the opposition with so much cover at the back of them, they failed to make a positive contribution, with both unable to find crosses for Lukaku and Mirallas to latch on to.

But special praise must go to Holgate, who plays as though he has been a first team player for years. Nothing appears to faze him. What ever Barnsley are doing with their academy players, they sure breathe confidence into them. Stones now Holgate are very confident and intelligent players thanks to Barnsley's coaching staff.

Danny O'Neill
33 Posted 27/12/2016 at 18:54:09
Steavey, Mason Holgate is indeed a young starlet but let us let him develop and not do what we normally do (not just us Evertonians – English football in general); hype up a player and then expect him to be the finished article by the time they are 22. We ruin too many players by doing this.

Introduce them gradually over time and wait until they are experienced enough to take the mantle. Freaks (in the nicest possible sense) like Rooney are few and far between.

If you noticed yesterday, a cross came in and despite Williams screaming & pointing for the line to be held, Holgate sat deep and played Ulloa onside (first mistake). He then missed the header (second mistake) allowing Ulloa to have a freebie on goal.

Fortunately Robles was well positioned to gather. The lad has undoubted potential but he got away with that. He is learning but like others, play them week in week out for 90 minutes; expect mistakes from young players.

I'm sorry but I revert back to a previous comparison of nations' approach to the introduction of young players. England play a higher percentage of players with an average age of 21 than Germany and Spain; who is more successful in developing genuine top class players? They nurture them properly and introduce them as regulars when they are ready, not when the masses demand.

That's my rant at English football, Steavey, not you; I agree with your post!!

Steavey Buckley
34 Posted 27/12/2016 at 19:02:00
Thanks Danny. Yesterday, Holgate was playing in an unfamiliar position as a third centre-half. The cross you pointed out was whipped in by Simpson who was left unmarked, so if Holgate failed to deal with it, so did other more experienced Everton defenders who failed to close down the Leicester full back.
Danny O'Neill
35 Posted 27/12/2016 at 19:17:47
The defence was well positioned to deal with it and had everyone listened to the more experienced (Williams was controlling the line), the player is offside. Mason done what you would expect from a young inexperienced player; switched off momentarily and watched the man; listen to the call, hold your nerve and hold the line.

Hey, he's a great young player who I hope goes on to be a great Everton player. All I'm saying is play young players then expect mistakes. I'm comfortable with that but accept you nurture them.

Otherwise, we ruin them... like we are on the verge of doing with Ross before he's had the chance to be developed properly.

Brian Harrison
36 Posted 27/12/2016 at 19:25:29
Maybe the early season results hyped expectations but this is a team which finished in the bottom half of the table for the past 2 seasons. So to expect this group to be transformed into top 4 material was never realistic.

I wanted Koeman and yes I have been disappointed with quite a few of our performances. But he has now had a few months to assess what he has got and were he needs to improve. Plus it is only a few months since we appointed Steve Walsh, and it will have taken time for him and Koeman to decide what type of players they are looking for.

Then having identified the type of players getting them can be a whole different ball game as they found out in the last window.

Certainly the last 3 games, we have seen the team play at a higher tempo and close down a lot quicker. But adapting to a new system takes time, Most would accept that it would be a decent first season if we get 7th so lets see if we can finish there.

But as Mourhino is finding out, even with a massive warchest it takes time to change the mentality of players, also he had a better squad to start with and then spent a fortune. But there is no guarantee that they will qualify for a Champions League spot.

Lev Vellene
37 Posted 27/12/2016 at 22:01:48
I loved this game (even if I almost fell asleep before the break...)! Yes, it was sort of a fluke, but Mirallas had the drive to get it finished for 1-0 (and we deserved that piece of luck on our side, for once!).

Holgate was solid (mostly...), and Davies on later was wonderful. As has been mentioned elsewhere, Koeman should field 1-2 youngsters every game; both too blood them, but also to keep the more complacent first-teamers on their toes!

Say what you will about experience, hunger is an even better motivator!

Martin Nicholls
38 Posted 28/12/2016 at 00:23:34
Thanks Lyndon – a far more balanced and fair report than that posted by Michael K.
Mike Powell
39 Posted 28/12/2016 at 12:35:06
Well deserved win – especially for the second half performance. We are a better and more energetic team without Barry. I thought Barkley was outstanding when he came on – he made the difference. More of the same, please, Blues.
Patrick Murphy
40 Posted 29/12/2016 at 18:49:28
A nice little story in the Leicester Mercury, an Everton fan who travelled to the King Power stadium, was aghast when he discovered his wallet had gone missing. He rang home and asked his father to cancel the cards etc. It was when he returned home that a tweet awaited him from Leicester City football club informing him that his wallet was now in the safe hands of the Everton club secretary and he would bring it back to the city on the team bus.

Lost wallet returned on Everton team bus

Daniel Lim
41 Posted 30/12/2016 at 01:08:40
Good one Patrick@40.
Thanks for sharing.

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