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1 Posted 28/01/2017 at 11:34:15
2 Posted 28/01/2017 at 12:32:08
3 Posted 28/01/2017 at 13:14:09
4 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:14:37
ps: Why is captain creasehead on virtually every red top covering of the game? I've seen him on the Guardian, Mail and Mirror. He's probably on The Sun as well.
5 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:22:01
6 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:26:03
7 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:26:20
8 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:27:44
9 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:27:47
10 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:28:55
11 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:29:11
I'm started to warm to that scruff bag Klopp.
He looks like the father from The Modern Parents (Viz).
Now the bonus of the 'whine in'.
12 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:33:09
13 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:34:14
14 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:34:51
15 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:37:51
16 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:38:15
17 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:38:36
18 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:40:35
19 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:45:17
20 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:45:46
21 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:47:31
22 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:49:18
23 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:50:37
I honestly didn't think they would lose today as my inbuilt RS radar didn't think they would lose 3 at home on the bounce, it must have happened before but I can't remember it.
Happy New Year to all ToffeeWebbers:)
24 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:53:08
Koeman has already said that Everton's squad has been trained to finish the season strongly, just like Southampton last year, and maybe we are starting to see the first signs. Ross is looking leaner too.
Interesting to watch I hope.
25 Posted 28/01/2017 at 14:58:31
I have to admit they were good to watch, as were Dortmund, but the style of play, once sussed, is easy to contain.
As for Koeman, well his teams seem to be very cyclical i.e. Good and poor patches. Let's just hope we are going to stay on our good patch.
26 Posted 28/01/2017 at 15:05:43
C'mon you Wolves!!!
27 Posted 28/01/2017 at 16:10:15
28 Posted 28/01/2017 at 18:51:25
29 Posted 29/01/2017 at 00:28:07
30 Posted 29/01/2017 at 01:01:50
31 Posted 29/01/2017 at 09:22:31
32 Posted 29/01/2017 at 09:44:57
Hopefully they'll let him take their pens.
Actually their next three home games are Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal so that could be interesting.
Personally I believe that as long as Liverpool (and the media) still think they're 'Liverpool', they'll get nowhere.
What do I mean by that?
Last night on MOTD, after Liverpool's goal, the commentator said (as though it was 1977) "And now Wolves will have to keep them out, that won't be easy with the Kop behind them."
But the reality is the Kop isn't the Kop and teams these days (if they've any sense) know it.
In the 60s and 70s the Kop was 25,000+ standing (bladdered) Scousers and was intimidating - now it's 12,000 seated football tourists taking selfies. BIG difference.
This is not (entirely) a dig, I have red mates who genuinely despair about what they have become and recently I was talking to a (very) red mate who told me he was thinking of knocking it on the head and going to watch City Of Liverpool FC - Link - he said he'd had a nark with 'some foreign feller' who was slagging the ref for disallowing a Liverpool goal that was 10 yards offside.
His words were 'nob-heads most of them, they don't even know what they're fucking watching.'
By the way, I'll post this again just in case anyone missed it - a mate sent it to me with the caption 'ManÃ© returns to Anfield after the AFCON Link
33 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:09:32
34 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:14:37
Incidentally, Everton did not feature anywhere near the top of the statistics which would suggest that Koeman has some way to go yet in getting us to become a pressing team.
35 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:25:27
36 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:29:30
37 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:30:16
38 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:44:06
The pressure will all be on Chelsea though. They won't want Swansea, Southampton and wolves looking better than them.
Any truth in the rumour the kopites favourite song is January, by Pilot https://youtu.be/YnQZ5AHUk2U
39 Posted 29/01/2017 at 10:48:20
40 Posted 29/01/2017 at 11:09:34
True, it could, but it's a matter of degrees.
The myth of the (Liverpool) Kop was embraced by 'the meeja' in the 60s.
It was terrifying, vast, a 12th man, completely intimidating, etc blah.
Opposition teams would quake and throw the towel in just thinking about playing in front of it (that's certainly what we were told).
Sure other (lively) sections of other grounds were known amongst football supporters (Holt End, Street End, Chicken Run etc) but none were embraced by sports writers, journos and commentators like the 'famous' Kop at Anfield.
Other supporters take selfies?
Absolutely, no question, I see it at Goodison too, but again - a matter of degrees.
Next time they're on, take a good look at their crowd at Anfield (and Utd's at OT).
They simply look..different.
Often baffled looking, well-heeled, out of towners, covered in merchandise, looking like they're on the 'Visiting The Spiritual Home Of British Football' leg of their 'Three days in Liverpool - Home Of The Beatles' tour.
Imo (and that's all it is) there is a massive difference in the average 'punter' watching games at Anfield (and OT) than at Goodison.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the myth to continue - I want them to keep deluding themselves because as long as they do, I think they'll just keep setting themselves up for weeks like they've just had.
41 Posted 29/01/2017 at 11:32:27
Real Betis v Barcelona
42 Posted 29/01/2017 at 12:00:07
It was truly astonishing to see all the foreign tourists, clutching their souvenir bags (see-through for airport security). I feel your Red friend's pain...
but only a bit.
43 Posted 29/01/2017 at 12:11:21
44 Posted 29/01/2017 at 12:31:35
Thing with Liverpool is that Mane provides the difference and their back four and keepers are very ordinary.
Great to have selection headaches, but a few more wins would be even better.
45 Posted 29/01/2017 at 12:52:45
Someone in the south of England once said to me, after asking whether I was a Red or a Blue, you can tell Evertonians, they're the ones with the Scouse accents. Not entirely true of course, but perhaps captures something.
46 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:09:49
47 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:24:40
48 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:41:47
49 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:43:25
50 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:50:15
The FA Cup brings the sight of thousands of away supporters. It was great hearing the Plymouth hordes asking "Where's your famous atmosphere?"
The huge Wolves support was also good to see, right behind their team with hardly a flag in hand, whilst up the other end the glory-hunters were bedecked in more fabric than a tall ship.
51 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:51:54
52 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:55:58
For the last 20 years or more, if Everton and Liverpool were playing in cup matches in London, for instance, Everton would take a lot more supporters from Liverpool than the Reds would,
For Liverpool's home games, The East Lancs Road is chocker with Liverpool fans while the 17 and 19 buses are half-full going to Anfield.
Klopp has sacrificed the FA Cup to concentrate on the Premier League, let's hope he has made a very big mistake.
53 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:58:13
54 Posted 29/01/2017 at 13:59:02
They were like contortionists bending backwards trying to put the blame on the lack of a winter break, fixture congestion, lack of squad investment, wind etc . it's really quite pathetic seeing grown men trying to please their paymasters.
Oh, and Matt Law saying Mike Walsh is overrated and is to blame for Leicester's decline this season.
55 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:23:12
They're a bunch of fucking hypocrites who only cry when they aren't winning trophies. Eugene, you can bet your pal wouldn't be moaning if they were winning the League every season. No complaints when they were in the CL every season and one of the 'big four.'
They turned Anfield & their club into football's equivalent of a cult. Now they're crying into their milk because they've been joined by a load of tourists. Fuck them all, the entitled pricks.
56 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:23:33
On another occasion we got the Friday afternoon flight back from Cork after we'd been to stay with friends, me golfing, her... bloody shopping... We were the only two non Irish RS on the plane. All the way back we were treated to their repertoire of maudlin Irish/RS dirges, I couldn't wait to get off that bloody plane.
So, it's NOT all made up when we point out the percentage of tourist's they have each week. OK, we have some too, but they've got to be real fans and not glory hunters haven't they?
57 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:24:58
"They turned Anfield & their club into football's equivalent of a cult"
Kevin, I think you've spelt that wrong...
58 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:50:45
But what gets my goat is the new stand at Anfield, after all the new stadiums built (e.g. Arsenal) , all the new stands built, e.g. Man City, Man Utd (where capacity went from 38,000 to 77,000 over the years and want another 10,000 added to that) and very little made of it about them.
But that lot build a new stand (for 𧴜m!!!!, did they get ripped off or what?) and the media were all over it, capacity up less than 10,000, Herr Scruff said he looked up at it and thought it was the 8th wonder of the world! Seriously? Not a new stadium but one bloody stand.
They're the type that makes a ceremony out of opening a crisp bag at Anfield. Like the obnoxious neighbour who comes home with a new Vauxhall Insignia (no offence to any reader who drives one) giving it the full "look how good I am" to the neighbours who all have Ferrari's, Lamborghini's and Aston Martin's in their driveways!
What I'd love is for us to get a shiny new super stadium on the Docks, 60,000+ capacity with all the mod cons, bigger than Anfield and then we'll see how they react. I suspect the 8th wonder of the world then will be the utter shite coming out of their mouths. Long may their demise continue.
59 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:51:08
We've had wind, referees, injuries, players not good enough, but not once has any of the RS offered the possibility that Klopp isn't quite up to the hype that's been generated. He himself hasn't once openly considered the possibility that his pet 'theory' of pressing might be flawed. He's been warned enough in the past, by fitness specialists raising the possibility that his approach might not be sustainable over a whole season. Ah well, just have to let them get on with it.
60 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:52:12
61 Posted 29/01/2017 at 15:04:03
Their sense of entitlement is, and always has been, is sickening and deluded.
Despite me dad thinking I might have some sort of mental illness (or I was possessed) he always said he was proud of me for sticking with my team through thick and thin.
62 Posted 29/01/2017 at 15:29:37
63 Posted 29/01/2017 at 15:37:30
64 Posted 29/01/2017 at 15:56:39
My sister-in-law was cooing over their maverick genius as the pressing seemed to pay-off and the goals flowed.
Many Kopites have a sickly love-in with their managers. Dagleish, Benitez and Houllier are looked back on with misty-eyed sentiment. As for Shankly, you would think he was bloody cross between Nelson Mandela and Gandhi. The bloody boot room! Sorry I've got to stop .
Anyway the buggers have got so many supporters in the media, who just love all of that romantic shite. There are so many of their former players on air compared to say Man Utd's old boys. Totally out of kilter.
65 Posted 29/01/2017 at 16:11:53
Liverpewl til I die la!
There used to be a lad on here who would only discuss football with Kopites unless they went to the match and knew who Liverpool's manager before Shankly was.
You wouldn't even find a match going kopites now who could answer that question.
66 Posted 29/01/2017 at 16:53:21
67 Posted 29/01/2017 at 17:09:50
68 Posted 30/01/2017 at 05:14:16
So we should consider meaning alterations; how do we maximize a squad and not devalue the game? Rolling substitutions could be a way forward.
Other sports practice this, instead of 8 players playing a full 90 minutes, a squad of 18 would be utilized and reduced time on the field. Players would be less fatigued, the quality higher.
Replays should be scrapped, sadly, but it must come. Extra time and pens on the day. It provides certainty and space in the calendar.
Each round should be played on the Saturday & Sunday only. Again, streamlines scheduling and gives maximum space between fixtures either side of the round.
Even with these or other adjustments, there's still no way to force a side into keeping their teams strong.
Could allowing the top 8 teams in the Premier League to enter at R4 help?
My feeling that sadly it's over and done. My best memory and most painful ones are all cup related.
'85 the most painful, simply because we were the best, and the double hung there like a pretty bauble. To have been the first team in a long time to do it would have killed our RS neighbours.
The run in '88 was amazing, Wednesday, Boro games were truly titanic.
Harper's semi-final goal was legend, the skill from a back up in a major game against a very good goalie in Hodge.
'95 was remarkable in many ways, but Nev was truly awesome in that final. Way past his best, portly and his own grumpy self, he almost won it single-handedly for us.
Clive Thomas, nuff said.
The best memory was the 4-4. I shook throughout that game. The 2nd Replay we won with Waggy's goal was nothing but underwhelming.
Anyone got a magic bullet?
69 Posted 30/01/2017 at 12:29:51
70 Posted 30/01/2017 at 12:51:13
I hope they give Gana a lift back home too. Surely it makes sense them both flying to the same destination. Poor Sado will be down in the dumps having missed the crucial penalty that not only knocked his country out of the tournament but also means he has to go back to face a group who are totally relying on him to save their season. I'd say Chelsea will give him a huge welcome.
71 Posted 30/01/2017 at 15:58:53
72 Posted 30/01/2017 at 17:43:15
Apparently everyone wants them to win. He can fuck right off with that.
Bring on 4 in a row at home.
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