We have a chance to qualify for the Europa League. Some Evertonians don't like the idea. I see their point but, in my view, it is short-sighted. Will a Europa League campaign cost us Champions League football? Who knows; what I do think, though, is that Europa League football might just give some of our younger supporters memories that do not come round too often.
From a practical point of view, I think we would be ready. We will have Besic back, Bolasie will return. Our loanees will come back. We will have young players coming through. We will make new signings.
We can have a League Cup team and a Europa League team. We will have a strong enough squad. To me, we have no place disparaging European football – we should embrace it and set the standard.
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1 Posted 25/01/2017 at 17:29:11
Regarding squad size and quality of player, that's supposed to be the main reason for enthusiasm with the new leadership and direction of the Club.
2 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:04:19
The problem the competition has as far as English clubs go is that a lot of clubs think they are Man utd or city or Chelsea who are, as a rule fighting competitions on several fronts as well as challenging for the league. The rest of us aren't winning much at all really so can't be fussy about a route to a trophy.
I'm a believer that winning is a good habit, whether it's in the league, Europe or domestic cups. I hate the tinkering around with reserve players in cup competitions. If a player is looking a bit jaded then rest him, if he's on fire then what's the point of resting him? I'm all for giving cup competitions their proper respect and while the group games are a pain in Europe it is still enjoyable.
Let's face it, if we can't cope with the Europa League then how the hell will we cope with the Champions League if we ever get there? It's good practise until we manage to qualify for the Champions League. I for one look forward to the Europa League, home and away.
3 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:06:58
It's given us some decent nights over the last 10 years and we get to see some of our youth/squad players in action.
All this fatigue shit is just that, Shit! Thursday to Sunday is the same 3 break Champions League clubs get... and our worst run under Bobby was when the Europa League group stages had already finished.
Winning breeds confidence, etc.
4 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:16:52
5 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:22:29
Quite simply, we need to be in Europe every season, whether it is the Champions League or the Europa League.
Not least of all because being in Europe every season lifts a club's coefficient ranking which improves your seeding in the draws.
Qualifying 'cold' for the Champions League with so few recent seasons in Europe seriously disadvantages Everton should we currently gatecrash that competition.
6 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:28:15
Just don't understand those who are so against the Europa League, not coz of the football particularly but because the trips are great (and I'm not getting any younger).
Even Lisbon when we got twatted was great.
7 Posted 25/01/2017 at 22:03:30
8 Posted 25/01/2017 at 22:09:02
9 Posted 25/01/2017 at 22:11:08
10 Posted 25/01/2017 at 22:18:34
If Man Utd win it, Southampton don't qualify if Man Utd finish in the top six.
11 Posted 25/01/2017 at 23:35:54
That would be great for us.
12 Posted 25/01/2017 at 23:56:26
13 Posted 25/01/2017 at 00:05:39
Top four get Champions League, 5th place gets Europa League. FA Cup Winners get a place in the Europa League (or runners up if the winners have already qualified for Europe) and EFL Cup winners get a place in the Europa League (not the runners up).
At the moment, only 5th place is guaranteed a place in the Europa League. However, If United win the EFL Cup and qualify for Europe via their league position, 6th place will qualify for the Europa League.
If both the FA Cup winners and runners up have already qualified for Europe via their league position or by having also won the EFL Cup, then - and only then - 7th place in the League will qualify for the Europa League.
That's my understanding anyway.
14 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:10:22
15 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:11:25
Didn't they put a stop to the runners-up qualifying last year?
16 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:14:40
Actually, also come to think of it, the Europa League winners now qualify for the Champions League, so if an English team won the Europa League, the scenario I described above would change!
17 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:18:42
18 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:22:32
19 Posted 26/01/2017 at 00:45:45
Both spots will revert to places 6 and 7 should one or both winners already qualify for Europe through, finishing no lower than fifth or winning the Champions League or Europa League.
Oddly the FA Cup spot puts you straight into the group stages of the competition; should you finish 5th and the winner of the FA Cup finishes 4th or higher, then this spot benefit moves to 5th; 6th and 7th enter at one and two qualifying rounds away respectively.
All for the Europa League. Club needs to show ambition, all things flow through this competition to the next step. It would be very unlikely we make the jump to the Champions League in one huge step.
20 Posted 26/01/2017 at 10:17:37
Palace didn't play in the Europa League this season so it must be the scenario described above. We are in a decent position to qualify as it stands.
You've got to fancy Man Utd to beat Hull and Southampton so all we need is one of the usual suspects to win the FA Cup and we can start booking Fridays off work again!
21 Posted 26/01/2017 at 12:27:54
22 Posted 26/01/2017 at 12:57:19
I think you are being very hopeful if you think we can realistically get into the top 4. I cannot see us get into the top 6 as all those teams above us have really got themselves sorted from last year.
Before November, I thought Spurs and Man Utd might be catchable but both really went on good runs and are all capable of beating each other with only 6 points separating 2nd from 6th.
We are then winning the next race for 7th place which as the lads eventually sorted out above will be good enough for Europa League 3rd Rd qualifying. See last season
It used to go to the runners up of the FA Cup but now it goes to the next position so hopefully Man Utd and another top 6 team will win the FA Cup.
For fans to be questioning do we really want to get into the Europa league really need to have a look at themselves. We want to become one of the big boys again and improve each year and hopefully Moshiri and Koeman have already started those wheels moving. Our only European success was the Cup winners cup and the one year we qualified for the Champions League we got taught a few lessons.
We talk about players not wanting to come to a club who are not in Europe or outside London. Well we can't change our location but we can certainly provide players with a European platform and we saw how well Lukaku did on that platform 2 years ago as top scorer with 8 goals.
Sevilla finished 7th last year, 5th the year before, 5th in 2014, 9th in 2013 and 9th in 2012. Look how well they have done using the Europa League winning it 3 seasons in a row with Chelsea and Atletico Madrid before them.
A bit like the League Cup in England I think teams have a bad attitude towards it but to me it should be a HUGE stepping stone as realistically what is the point in coming 4th and struggling in the Champions League? We are not at that level as yet and look how Spurs went out so easily this season.
23 Posted 26/01/2017 at 13:31:55
24 Posted 26/01/2017 at 13:33:08
25 Posted 26/01/2017 at 13:35:27
Debate is certainly alive and well on TW.
26 Posted 26/01/2017 at 13:48:51
I spend a lot of time digesting all sides of the argument prior to stating my case.
27 Posted 26/01/2017 at 14:09:06
28 Posted 26/01/2017 at 14:25:11
Given the mighty reds have won one game in their last seven (Plymouth away) someone suggested that this might look like Mané returning from the AFCON.
29 Posted 26/01/2017 at 14:46:36
As for the qualification, then 7th would qualify for the 3rd Qualifying round of the Europa League, if Man Utd win the League Cup AND the Winners of the FA Cup also finish in a European place.
English clubs get three Europa League spots which are FA Cup Winners, 5th finish in the League and League Cup winners, if anyone qualifies for Europe 'twice' then the next team in the League that hasn't qualified then qualifies. Hope that makes sense!
Glad I bookmarked this site last time! It tells you everything you need to know...
30 Posted 26/01/2017 at 14:52:17
31 Posted 26/01/2017 at 14:55:21
Koeman on the other hand has said he expects Everton to finish strongly because of their fitness and conditioning.
Interesting to see how it plays out.
32 Posted 26/01/2017 at 15:00:26
Over the past 5 years 69-79 points have been enough. We've bagged 36 points so far, and have 48 available to us which would give us 84 points, Champions League qualification (surely) and maybe even a tilt at the title if we win them all.
If you want to be REALLY pessimistic I reckon we can afford to drop 6-9 points between now and May and we've still got a good shout of Top 4 especially if we drop those points to teams out of touch from us lower in the league.
Let's just go out and win every game and see where it gets us. No point over-complicating it.
33 Posted 26/01/2017 at 15:03:29
34 Posted 26/01/2017 at 18:10:53
Those new shoes can pinch a little when the boot's on the other foot! :D
35 Posted 26/01/2017 at 19:13:51
Get down the bookies Mike. You'll be invited to name your own odds...
36 Posted 26/01/2017 at 19:23:29
37 Posted 26/01/2017 at 19:24:35
Not in the Man Utd squad & can't get a regular starting spot.
38 Posted 26/01/2017 at 20:10:16
39 Posted 26/01/2017 at 20:21:42
40 Posted 26/01/2017 at 20:49:25
41 Posted 26/01/2017 at 21:15:10
42 Posted 26/01/2017 at 21:28:18
43 Posted 26/01/2017 at 21:30:05
44 Posted 26/01/2017 at 21:35:44
45 Posted 26/01/2017 at 21:36:01
46 Posted 26/01/2017 at 22:00:24
47 Posted 26/01/2017 at 22:00:32
He'll probably get about half-a-dozen between now and May. At least!!
48 Posted 26/01/2017 at 22:07:56
49 Posted 27/01/2017 at 08:15:03
50 Posted 27/01/2017 at 12:31:03
If we progress to the final of this competition, of course it will be justified because we will be in The Champions League! It's a very big if.
If we don't, and that's a very small if, we will all most certainly have wasted another Premier League season because the Europa League handicaps your Premier League performances. Nevertheless I hope you all enjoy your trips in Europe, and that is being sincere.
51 Posted 27/01/2017 at 21:19:41
Our ambition should be to win as many trophies as possible.
52 Posted 28/01/2017 at 17:51:25
53 Posted 28/01/2017 at 18:13:22
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55 Posted 28/01/2017 at 18:32:30
56 Posted 28/01/2017 at 20:19:15
57 Posted 28/01/2017 at 20:38:00
58 Posted 29/01/2017 at 14:47:58
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