With the signing of Lescott, Moyes now has 4 old boys with Rodwell, Pienaar, and Anichebe already there.
People seem greatly amused by this on message boards and Twitter. But as Evertonians, does this make us not want to get behind Sunderland, especially as 3 of the 4 left the club on good terms?
So what does everyone think? I certainly take much more interest in Sunderland now, and I always want the northern clubs to stay up ahead of the London clubs.
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1 Posted 25/01/2017 at 08:43:32
2 Posted 25/01/2017 at 09:02:57
3 Posted 25/01/2017 at 09:16:35
Also Moyes using the "having no money" as his get out of jail card should they be relegated. How to get your excuse in early.
I don't know why he doesn't try to tempt Osman; at least he was rarely injured... nor Tin Cahill, who's still banging in the goals on short term contracts.
4 Posted 25/01/2017 at 09:23:43
When the pressure is on, as it must be at Sunderland, I guess the temptation is even greater.
Rodwell, Anichebe and Gibson are still young enough to so something in both the short and medium term. Lescott and Pienaar however are both 34 and unlikely to contribute much other than for this season. I would be sad to see Jags go but he still has enough about him that he could do a job at Sunderland despite his age.
As for them being my 2nd favourite team. Er, no! Sadly Mr. Moyes has sufficiently burned his bridges since leaving us for the promised land. The cruel irony of his quote when our manager: "If people want to leave Everton then they can, but they need to remember it generally doesn't work out for them."
5 Posted 25/01/2017 at 13:01:24
They are less odious than their neighbours, but I couldn't care less whether the Mackems stay up or go down.
Having had a nose at their main forum a few times this season their fans are not too happy with Moyes, and his comments last week about any players he signs probably won't make much difference just about sum up how negative he is.
He seems to be trying to turn them into an Everton rejects Xl.
I expect them to go down and Moyes will then probably be finished as a Premier League manager.
6 Posted 25/01/2017 at 13:12:29
TC? Tony Cottee? Yeah wouldn't surprise me if Moyes signed him. I think Moyes is like King Lear, driven mad by guilt and betrayal trapped in a NE tempest. I would be pissed if I was a Sunderland fan. It would be like Martin O'Neill coming here and signing Marlon Harewood, Nigel Reo-Coker, Shaun Maloney etc for a 10-year reunion of sorts.
Not only are they all either older or crap, they're also the players with the WORST injury records we've had bar Andy van der Meyde although maybe he will be next. I remember Kendall making a kind of Everton II at Man City but those players were at least good and not sick notes. What a joke. No, Sunderland are not my second team they're an embarrassment run by a loony.
7 Posted 25/01/2017 at 13:34:15
8 Posted 25/01/2017 at 14:11:51
9 Posted 25/01/2017 at 14:20:33
Accordingly, I want both Sunderland and Hull to do well - the escape of either would be a surprise and go against the grain of expectation. What some see as excuses I perceive as realities: Moyes does not have money to spend, and the ex-Everton contingent, all pass their sell-by-date, sadly communicates that.
Unfortunately, I expect Hull and Sunderland both to go down. If they do, then perhaps we can pick up Kone for cheap, and perhaps PVA as well.
10 Posted 25/01/2017 at 14:28:42
I think Lescott might do ok, especially considering that lad they currently have playing centre-back for them.
Gibson, not so much, as he'd need a lot of time to get fit and even then he'd probably only be good enough for an hour.
I think they'll go down and I don't particularly care for the club.
But Moyes's words to the media about new players not making a difference is really bizarre. They might have been as well in sacking him and hoping for a "bounce" that a new manager brings. They probably couldn't afford to pay him off though.
11 Posted 25/01/2017 at 14:30:47
I first came across Sunderland, as a small child when they lost 2-0 at Goodison, but all there fans were dancing on the Goodison pitch, because they thought they had beaten the drop, only for Bristol City to equalise against Coventry? which sent them down and the fans mad.
I'm sure it was the first time I ever saw real trouble outside Goodison, when I was beginning to realise that for a lot of people, football was more than just a game?
Anyway I hope they stay safe, but would also find quite an irony in both Sunderland and Allardyce's Palace, going down.
12 Posted 25/01/2017 at 18:31:32
13 Posted 25/01/2017 at 18:41:42
14 Posted 25/01/2017 at 18:50:32
15 Posted 25/01/2017 at 18:57:19
16 Posted 25/01/2017 at 20:26:44
Yes, my initial thought too, poor soul
17 Posted 25/01/2017 at 21:02:31
I hope Sunderland stay up...Moyes may not have left on the best terms but he did a great job restoring some respectability to our club. I think I'll always be grateful to him for that, regardless of what he may have said upon leaving. We were a laughing stock for most of the previous decade before Moyes took charge.
However, his negativity was stifling at times and at Sunderland he appears to have become even more defeatist!
It was a tough job from the start and money is obviously an issue...but some 'Martinez-esque' positivity may have helped the players confidence?
It does make you wonder if the Manure job has completely destroyed his confidence? His career could be effectively over if he takes them down.
18 Posted 25/01/2017 at 23:06:00
Couldn't particularly care less about Moyes or all our former players... but anything that could possibly bring a little bit of joy to young Bradley is definitely something worth supporting.
19 Posted 25/01/2017 at 00:28:09
Sunderland? Good riddance. They've been bobbing around that relegation zone for too long and in a sane promotion-relegation system a la South America, they would have been long gone by now. The problem is they are a big enough club to come back up fairly quickly as they have done throughout most of their history.
Aside from hoping the best for the young lad who is battling cancer, the only other part of that club I care about is Duncan Watmore. He's quality.
As for our former players up there:
Pienaar: Never regained his pre-Spurs form and was a sicknote for a lot of his second spell.
Rodwell: Could have been a better player had he made the right career moves. I think had he gone to Man Utd rather than Man City it would have been a totally different story.
Lescott: Done. He was probably our best centre half in a very long time, but acted fairly poorly when he wanted the big money move although Moyes didn't exactly help the situation by not letting go of a player who obviously had every intention of leaving.
Anichebe: The fact that this bloke gets paid anything to play football and I have to graft on the tools every day to live pay to pay is just the saddest thing.
20 Posted 26/01/2017 at 02:07:40
Both he and Martinez are set for life because of Everton. Both will be TV pundits in the near future, that's their real level.
I hope Bradley makes a full recovery, Sunderland will go down and Bradley will be seen at Goodison in a blue shirt. Happy ending.
21 Posted 26/01/2017 at 16:00:50
22 Posted 26/01/2017 at 16:11:40
24 Posted 26/01/2017 at 16:33:17
25 Posted 26/01/2017 at 16:41:13
Moyes really is not a top manager and really should be in the lower leagues only. He had one half decent season at Goodison in how many?
26 Posted 26/01/2017 at 19:39:55
He should not be allowed near another football club, it's as bad as the old school tie society. l can't help but feel this will all end in tears (l hope it doesn't) but somehow it will reflect badly on the blues in the media.
27 Posted 29/01/2017 at 02:27:21
I couldn't give a shit what anyone thinks about having a soft spot for another club, I hope they don't go down, like some people want the reds to lose - same thing really, being interested in another club besides Everton
28 Posted 29/01/2017 at 19:37:24
Plus they took a point off the shite that started this wonderful rot that they're enduring now, derby win aside.
It will always irk me the media manipulation towards the shite. We saw Bradley on the pitch at Sunderland with not much idea what the whole story was. The following day we'rd told of Everton's exceptional gesture. Pure altruism.
It barely received a mention in the national media due to the fact those ragtags across the park were opening their new stand. The one they had all the residents effectively evicted so they could build a third tier. A CORPORATE tier filled with out-of-towners. Cancer hospitals have opened with much less fanfare.
I've digressed, but hey, Sunderland second favourite team? Okay, this season only.
29 Posted 29/01/2017 at 19:41:05
Liverpool are my third favourite team. All others, except us, are my second favourite. Come on the RS, after all others.
30 Posted 29/01/2017 at 19:57:51
31 Posted 29/01/2017 at 20:16:40
32 Posted 30/01/2017 at 16:58:57
33 Posted 06/02/2017 at 21:39:29
34 Posted 07/02/2017 at 16:59:01
35 Posted 14/02/2017 at 22:22:04
36 Posted 14/02/2017 at 22:29:14
Sunderland are massively in debt, won't approve any signings, in crisis, and at the bottom of the league.
Changing nothing is clearly not going to have any impact, and their consistent approach on a season-by-season basis is short term.
On that basis, I'd probably go with the devil I know; players who've achieved a certain level of performance in the past, who I would hope to be able to integrate reasonably quickly. It would (should) be purely a stop-gap solution.
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