Baines in line for new deal at Everton

29 July  72 Comments  [Jump to last]

Everton will reportedly open talks with Leighton Baines in the near future over a new contract that would extend his stay at the club until his mid- to late-30s.

The fullback ended seemingly interminable speculation over his future two years ago when he signed a four-year extension to his existing deal but both the Liverpool Echo and MailOnline report that the Blues want to secure him on a longer-term basis.

The 31-year-old will complete a decade of service to Everton next year following his £6m move from Wigan Athletic in 2007 and any extension to his current deal would tie him to Goodison Park beyond his existing term which is due to expire in June 2018.  


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Paul Conway
1 Posted 29/07/2016 at 07:03:27
Still a prize asset when fit and a good football brain.
Duncan McDine
2 Posted 29/07/2016 at 07:29:00
I'm a big fan of Bainsey n'all but what the hell? Mid to late 30's means a 5 year deal for a 31 yr old! Surely not Although we have kept Gibson so who knows!
Craig Fletcher
3 Posted 29/07/2016 at 07:37:44
Well deserved. Hopefully he can recapture his form after injury made for a stop-start 2015/16 season for him. Wouldn't it be great if Leighton proved to have Maldini-like longevity at left-back.

The likes of Bainesey and Jags will likely take over the mantle from Ossie and Hibbo as Everton's long-serving elder statesmen (and therefore regular ToffeeWeb whipping boys).

Carl Sanderson
4 Posted 29/07/2016 at 07:46:03
That is a surprising deal, given his age, but he does have a lot to offer (including penalty duties 😉). Surprising, but not quite a Kevin Campbell-type folly. Now there was a screw-up.
Winston Williamson
5 Posted 29/07/2016 at 08:21:08
It makes sense. He actually sets a good example of hard work, commitment and loyalty.

He's someone the youngsters can talk to about all things Everton (as they come through and when they have transfer speculation).

Mike Mulhall
6 Posted 29/07/2016 at 08:41:38
Great representation of an efc player, loved the stancecagainst Martinez last season.

Great player, great attitude, great example

Nick Parker
7 Posted 29/07/2016 at 08:44:51
Great news and give him penalty duties back
Colin Grierson
8 Posted 29/07/2016 at 08:49:51
Good news. He's one of our own. I hope he has an injury free season and starts his overlapping runs again now that RK is in charge.
Lewis Barclay
9 Posted 29/07/2016 at 08:58:36
Shrewd move I think.

I'd guess that he felt like he took a battering last year and a bit of the year before and this is a good way to show him that there is faith and a future at the club.

Derek Knox
10 Posted 29/07/2016 at 09:07:56
I like Baines, but he has never been the same player IMO since the saga over going to Man United, but stayed loyal to the cause.

I think Garbutt is the best left back we have at the moment, but never seems to get a sniff, again, that is my opinion.

Denis Richardson
11 Posted 29/07/2016 at 09:23:54
Much as I like Baines, this is exactly the sort of thing that I just cannot understand and Everton constantly do - give players already nearing the end of their careers a massive pension boost with a new long contract. Did it recently with Howard, Hibbert, Osman, Pienaar, Neville and many others before.

Baines is 31, turning 32 in Dec, and more importantly his current contract still has 2 years to run, taking him to 33 (and a half) by the time it runs out. He's already one of our top earners on around 70k/week so why are we offering him a new contract at this time? I can only imagine his agent is angling for a fee (which the player and agent get when they sign a new deal).

Surely we can wait until next summer at least to see if a) injuries havent't taken their toll, b) he can still fit into RKs plans and c) none of the other 2-3 younger LBs we have have taken the No.1 spot off him. He'll still have a year left on this contract then anyway.

He's been great for us but this is just giving away money for no reason. I highly doubt Baines will be our No.1 LB in 2018 when he's 34.

Stephen Brown
12 Posted 29/07/2016 at 09:28:26
I like Baines, great player and servant to the club but have to agree with Denis! A touch of sentiment here I'd say and doesn't offer Galloway, Garbett or Oveido a great deal of encouragement!

Although hope I'm totally wrong and Leighton plays on well into his late 30s! Good luck to him

Michael Farrelly
13 Posted 29/07/2016 at 09:51:44
Stephen (12) I feel Galloway and Garbutt are offered a hell of a lot by having Baines around longer term. They couldn't find a better attacking fullback to learn the ropes from.

As for Oveido, surely our future doesn't involve him. I just don't think he is 1st rate and I feel he was exposed badly on a few occasions last season – Anfield game as a case in point.

Eric Holland
14 Posted 29/07/2016 at 09:54:37
Think this is a good move; he still has a lot to offer for a few years yet.
Steve Riley
15 Posted 29/07/2016 at 10:05:25
This seems to me, a reward for his loyalty. When at his peak, he seemed destined to go to Manchester United, but stuck by us.

He probably would have gone on to earn well over the £60k we tied him to, so for this reason, I'm glad.

Well done, Bainesy, you deserve it lad.

James Flynn
16 Posted 29/07/2016 at 10:19:07
I'll take it this means that left ankle is now fully mended.
Phil Sammon
17 Posted 29/07/2016 at 10:42:06
Denis

Leighton Baines is not in the same category as Howard, Hibbert, Osman or Neville.

Colin Williams
18 Posted 29/07/2016 at 11:07:33
Why!! Two years left on his contract. We have a group of lefties within the club waiting, who have serious talent. Baines has been superb for the club – absolute top draw – BUT... Please don't keep giving contracts to players whose best days are long gone and Baines in two years won't be far from that.

The club needs to stop giving handouts to players nearing their final years, wasting money and it's also gut-wrenching for young talent trying to get an opportunity in team / squad.

Jon Withey
19 Posted 29/07/2016 at 11:09:35
Like it or not, Jags and Baines are currently the best examples at our club. Barry also but he only joined recently.

I wonder where Coleman is with his contract?

Si Turner
20 Posted 29/07/2016 at 11:58:48
Michael (13) you're spot on.

Garbutt is the natural progression from Baines if he keeps his head down and learns. I see Galloway as a CB in the long term.

I don't think Oviedo is good enough. Teams were targeting him near the end of the season as our weak link. I sit near the left corner flag at the street end and my bottle is gone with him on a regular basis. He is nowhere near as good as Baines.

Carl Sanderson
21 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:00:57
There's no way Garbutt will stick around if Baines signs a four-year contract.
Steve Riley
22 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:08:57
Any people spouting about Oviedo and Garbutt clearly haven't been watching the football close enough for the past season... both are very poor and nowhere near good enough for EFC.
Steve Powell
23 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:10:55
I think Bainsey has a lot to offer in the medium term at least.

1. He is still a very good full back.
2. He is a great dead ball striker.
3. He is/will be a good mentor for the younger players.

I think it is the last where is could be most valuable. I'm sure he knows that he will not be playing every week soon, but he can be a good link between the Management and the Dressing Room.

Max Middleton
24 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:11:51
I do agree it's probably a year premature to offer an extension but I am sick of people here slating Gibson. Still 2 years short of 30, he is now fit!! He's showed enough in pre-season to impress... He tries to play FOOTBALL!!

And he can do it better then most of our midfielders – take note, McCarthy, Besic & Cleverley. No aerial strength in either of those 3 either.

I'd also have him in ahead of Barry. I still remember Gerrard knocking him for six not that long ago... still embarrassed. Constantly beaten in the air for goals and just walks off head down with a beaten attitude.

Barry - McCarthy... my arse. In Koeman I trust.

Matthew Williams
25 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:18:00
I always thought we should have accepted the £20+ million Man Utd offered a couple of years ago under Moyes. His value was always going to decrease rapidly onwards. Still a good fullback but he isn't as good as he was and will surely be phased out in the next season or so.
Tony J Williams
26 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:18:08
I wouldn't pin much hope on Garbutt for the next season. The lad couldn't hold down a regular place at Fulham.

Baines is the ultimate professional and definitely takes care of himself. The long standing injury and the shite tactics did for him with Roberto, also actually standing up to him didn't help.

I hope we get to see the real Baines stand up next season.

John Daley
27 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:22:11
"I highly doubt Baines will be our No 1 left back in 2018 when he's 34."

It doesn't take that big a stretch of the imagination, surely?

I'd say it's certainly far more likely that Leighton Baines will still be first choice in 18 months than it is last years 'future legend based on very little evidence', Luke Garbutt, will go from struggling to get in a shocking Fulham side at times to being a guaranteed Premier League starter for Everton.

Tony Abrahams
28 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:25:01
I haven't seen that much of him but, when I have, it's clear to see that Garbutt can't really defend.
Liam Reilly
29 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:26:35
Didn't Garbutt have a number of injuries last season which prevented him cementing a place in Fulhams first team?

I wouldn't rule him out just yet. Barkley couldn't get into Neil Warnock's team. Different division looking for different qualities in players.

Tom Bowers
30 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:37:21
Bainesy's best days are gone. He cannot defend as good as he was 3 seasons ago and I think his regular starting role may now be in jeopardy. I think the new contract should be only one year.

His best asset was his attacking and crosses but that seemed to have been limited under Martinez.

Anthony Michael
31 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:42:55
Baines could be used in that problematic left midfield position which would allow Garbutt to play, eventually.

Both could become great assets to each other as both can run, pass, cross and shoot. We'd be solid down that flank in both defence and attack.

John Daley
32 Posted 29/07/2016 at 12:56:48
Liam,

Garbutt did pick up an ankle injury in pre-season that kept him out until October, but it's not like he was a complete crock.

Tony Hill
33 Posted 29/07/2016 at 13:14:22
If Baines recovers full fitness, he's another who will thrive under Koeman. I've always thought Leighton lacks confidence, hence his England history.

I hope and expect that one of Koeman's biggest gifts to us will be the transmission of confidence. It's a bad cliche, but if we got back the Baines of 3 years ago then we would be getting a high quality new player in effect. Ditto Coleman in my opinion.

John Pierce
34 Posted 29/07/2016 at 13:35:00
I'm guessing, whether we like it or not, Everton are repaying the same loyalty Baines showed over the Man Utd interest. He was by all accounts an example to any on how to conduct oneself in the glare of transfer interest.

Also, even at this early stage, I'd think Koeman knows he has a decent player, with intelligence and a link to the temperature of the squad.

All boils down to an extension which is excessive but merited IMO.

Victor Jones
35 Posted 29/07/2016 at 13:42:59
Baines lost his way under Martinez. His defending skills went, his overlapping play went, his crossing ability went , his corners and set play were woeful, his England place went, and he was demoted from taking penalties. Not a great couple of seasons. But he was injured and there is always the Martinez factor to consider. The Martinez regime did a great disservice to a number of our players. Baines was one of them. But on his day LB was one of the best in the business. Can he regain that form and maintain it for a couple of seasons? I think that he can so IMO he is worth a new contract.It is not like the contract that was handed out to Hibbert. We all knew that he was not going to feature much but I think that most supporters saw Hibbo as part of the furniture and being rewarded for loyalty. That's the way I looked at that contract why complain.And I think that Gibson will come good he can (on his day) find a forward pass .time will tell.I would be champing at the bit should contracts be handed out to Kone and McGeady and surely we will all be spared from ever seeing Niasse in an Everton shirt ever again.

And whilst talking of Everton left backs, Baines is right up there with the best of them .IMO. Maybe only Ray Wilson would be ahead of him. Believe me we had some very poor LBs through the years...Darracott...Bernard...Bailey (although he played in a very good team)... Pointon... Jackson... Pistone...Kilbane there are more. And some supporters moan about Baines getting a contract. Just imagine him in that 1980s team - and yes I know that it is all conjecture. Just a wee bit of fun.P.S. Van den Hauwe and Hinchcliffe were not that bad...IMO. But I still have (of players that I have seen). Baines second to Ray Wilson.

Kieran Kinsella
36 Posted 29/07/2016 at 14:09:20
Look at Evra – he's older... and guys like Winterburn and Pearce. Baines has plenty left in the tank.
Bill Gall
37 Posted 29/07/2016 at 14:27:54
Baines is the best player in his position at the club at this time.
Garbutt may become as good or even better in the future but then he may not. Koeman is at the start of a rebuilding phase at Everton and what he needs is some experienced players in the team to provide stability, and in Baines he has a player whose experience and dedication is an example to younger players on how to conduct themselves as a professional .

Baines standards may have fallen from previous seasons but he was not alone, and the major problems he had last season was the lack of a regular left winger and injuries.

To give him an extended contract is no problem, not just for his loyalty to the club, but it is still possible that he will be able to maintain his high standards.

Denis Richardson
38 Posted 29/07/2016 at 14:32:12
John (#27) – I obviously meant the 2018-19 season – not in exactly 18 months time, ie, January 2018, when he will only have just turned 33 and his current contract would still be in place as it is.

I hope Baines can stay injury-free this coming season as he missed half of last season. As for 2 plus seasons after, age catches up with all players at some point and I don't see too many 34-year-old full-backs playing regularly in the Premier League. In fact, other than our own Tony Hibbert (surprise), the oldest full-back to play last season in the Premier league was 33 (Rangel and Sagna), hence I don't see Baines being our No 1 full-back when he'll be approaching 34.

Could be wrong of course – either way, I still don't see the point of a new contract at this stage when his current deal has another two years to run.

Steavey Buckley
39 Posted 29/07/2016 at 14:33:02
Everton are collecting left backs (5) as some kind of hobby like stamp collecting. Moyes used to collect right backs when he was manager of Everton.
Matthew Williams
40 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:00:53
A True Pro.
A Scouser.
A Blue.

Great news!

Paul Ellam
41 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:14:12
In a world of no loyalty, Baines showed us his – and for that, he deserves this little "bonus". However, he also deserves an extension because he is a bloody good footballer!

He struggled with injuries and an idiot manager over the last year or two but, just like Coleman, I believe he will thrive under Koeman. I think we will see both players back to what they did best.

He also needs making Captain in my opinion due to his fantastic approach to the game (either him or Coleman anyway) and putting back on penalty taking and free-kick duties immediately!

Carl Sanderson
42 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:22:25
I know it won't happen, but I think a back four of Coleman, Baines, Jagielka and Stones – properly coached – would be a wonderful defensive unit.
Alan Bodell
43 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:34:31
This guy deserves top contract not only for his ability but his unswerving loyalty since he came and it makes me so angry that he got 'disciplined' by a no-mark for commenting on the shite being served up. He could have gone when Moyes wanted him. Top lad who is up there with the best that have served us imo.
Jim Hardin
44 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:38:33
Wait, some on here don't want to give a new contract to a 31-year-old player because they see him as being over the hill by then. But that shouldn't count should it? He has been loyal after all right?

Seems those slagging off some players as putting their own interests above Everton and therefore being disrespectful and disloyal have some explaining to do. These same posters demanding loyalty from players are the same ones wanting not to reward the loyalty in return when they determine the player has diminishing value.

But wait, Baines and others have been rewarded with a paycheck so they have nothing to complain about when the team cuts them loose and the fans want them gone, do they? Exactly, I say, as it is a money business. So please let us not continue to discuss whether a player should be loyal to Everton, or not, as that is not the criteria used to determine the player's worth by the player, club, or the fans.

But, I believe loyalty should be rewarded by Everton, so make him Captain and give him a pay raise for the remainder of his current contract and then go year to year after it runs down.

Colin Glassar
45 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:42:42
I wouldn't make him captain, Jim, (too quiet) but I would make him lifelong penalty taker.
Andy Meighan
46 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:43:20
Deserves it just for speaking out against that nasty horrible bastard Martinez. One of the club's greatest ever players in my opinion and totally deserved. Great lad and a great servant. Believe me, we'll miss him when he retires.
Carl Sanderson
47 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:43:30
"But, I believe loyalty should be rewarded by Everton, so make him Captain and give him a pay raise for the remainder of his current contract and then go year to year after it runs down."

I agree with this, except the captain bit. The captain should be the gobbiest twat in the squad. Er, er... er...

Steavey Buckley
48 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:53:11
Carl Sanderson: a back 4 of Coleman, Stones, Jagielka and Baines was the reason why Barry and McCarthy had to play a deeper defensive role to protect them last season, yet Everton still conceded 59 Premier League goals.
Fran Mitchell
49 Posted 29/07/2016 at 15:54:07
Garbutt seems a bit crap really. I mean, if he was to be made available who would buy him? Hull? Bournmouth? Burnley? It certainly wouldn't be a top 10 Premier League team.

Baines is far the best left back we have, and I feel any replacement will have to be bought.

Also, I fully expect Baines to have a life-time job at Everton, working as a coach.

Carl Sanderson
50 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:21:51
Steavey:

So were the goals conceded because of a poor defence, or inadequate shielding?

Martinez was trying to implement a possession-based strategy a la Barcelona, using players who weren't good enough to play that system.

Defensive coaching was seemingly absent, with the consequences that we all deplored.

Poor management, first and last.

Eric Myles
51 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:25:35
"Moyes used to collect right backs when he was manager of Everton."

Who would they be then, Steavey (#39)?

John Daley
52 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:30:43
I guess we had Coleman, Neville and Hibbert at one point, with Stones being seen as a right back when signed.
Steavey Buckley
53 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:45:29
Carl Sanderson: watching Everton defend last season was like watching a car crash waiting to happen. The defence without any prompting (but giving plenty of hair-raising moments) could not defend corners and free kicks properly nor clear the ball without having to be forced to pass to the goalkeeper.

Everton next season need a resolute back 4 who don't take prisoners and are able to defend. Not Fancy Dans who believe their role is being wingers without defensive considerations first.

Ognjen Mojovic
54 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:46:04
How much is it possible that the new contract is bigger than the current?
Victor Jones
55 Posted 29/07/2016 at 16:47:16
Hardly collecting right backs. Hibbert, Neville and Coleman over a period of around 11 years. And Hibbert and Neville were solid enough in their own way.

But until Baines was brought in, I was not that impressed with our selection of left backs. Kudos to Moyes for getting Baines. Sure as hell beat Kilbane and Valente...

Carl Sanderson
56 Posted 29/07/2016 at 17:08:36
"Everton next season need a resolute back 4 that don't take prisoners and able to defend. Not fancy dans who believe their role is being wingers without defensive considerations first."

I agree. It's a matter of coaching.

Steavey Buckley
57 Posted 29/07/2016 at 17:17:29
Carl Sanderson: If Everton begin this new season with the same defence as last season they will still concede goals. There are inherent weaknesses that can't be coached out.
Ian Jones
58 Posted 29/07/2016 at 17:29:07
Steavey @ 48. I thought the reason Barry or McCarthy dropped back so deep wasn't necessarily to cover the defence because they were an inherently poor backline, it was also due to Martinez's preference to split the centre backs with both full backs pushed up, leaving a big gaping hole down the middle from time to time. Properly coached the defence will be fine.
Carl Sanderson
59 Posted 29/07/2016 at 17:33:35
"There are inherent weaknesses that can't be coached out."

Baines, Coleman and Jagielka seems to manage well when coached by David Moyes.

Steavey Buckley
60 Posted 29/07/2016 at 18:27:25
"Baines, Coleman and Jagielka seems to manage well when coached by David Moyes " You forget, when Fellaini was around, he could dominate both penalty areas with his size and strength.

Also, the players you mentioned are older and there are better attacking players from other teams to contend with. The same defence as last season, Everton are in trouble again.

Carl Sanderson
61 Posted 29/07/2016 at 18:42:40
I've forgotten nothing, Steavey. The defence was wide open last season because of the vast chasm in the midfield caused by Sr Martinez's suicidal tactics. I anticipate a better defensive performance this season. Let's have this conversation again at, say, Christmas.
Sean Patton
62 Posted 29/07/2016 at 20:25:33
I have not forgotten his shameful lack of effort in the last half of the season which had nothing to do with coaching.

He was trotting half arsed into position whilst the opposing attackers piled forward the Iwobi goal for Arsenal in particular was a case in point.

Whether it is advancing years or not being fully fit his performances have not been up to scratch for well over a year and he should be out the door not rewarded with another contract.

Steavey Buckley
63 Posted 29/07/2016 at 23:14:31
Carl Sanderson: If the same defence that conceded 2 goals in Dresdon tonight will be the same one that begins the start of the new season, happy days for the opposition. That's what I say.

That defence could not defend if they really tried. Yet, all the Everton fans want is for Coleman and Baines to bomb forward. And defending? Forget about that.

Michael Farrelly
64 Posted 29/07/2016 at 23:17:55
Psychiatrist to patient: "Let's do some word association! and we will start with the word... 'Baines'"

Response = Class, Class and more Class!

Ian Riley
65 Posted 30/07/2016 at 00:23:19
On a business level, it's madness. Two years left up to 33 years old. A new five-year contract to 36, a blue, local lad, and loyalty, deserves it.

Even before contract talks were mentioned. I thought Baines had a terrible couple of years. Never found the heights since the Manchester United transfer farce. Expect more next season from him.

Jim Hardin
66 Posted 29/07/2016 at 00:29:38
Carl (#47),

The Captain bit was because he is my personal favorite Everton player. Do we actually have a loud player at Everton to direct the players on the pitch? Maybe Mirallas? Barry? Insert choice here?

Carl Sanderson
67 Posted 30/07/2016 at 06:56:29
Steavey 63:

As the mathematicians say, you can particularise from the general but you can't generalise from the particular. If you think that one pre-season game proves your point then debate is useless. Let's talk again at Christmas.

Carl Sanderson
68 Posted 30/07/2016 at 06:59:13
Jim 66:

"Do we actually have a loud player at Everton to direct the players on the pitch?"

No! That was the reason for my "Er, er ..." I think it's a real problem.

Lewis Barclay
69 Posted 30/07/2016 at 12:54:55
I wonder if this is to prevent Moyes sniffing around and Baines going to Sunderland!
Steavey Buckley
70 Posted 30/07/2016 at 12:56:23
Carl Sanderson: the season could be over by then. It is better to preempt, than running on empty by Christmas.

Tony Blair once said famously, education, education, education to the duffers of this country. I say defence, defence, defence to those who believe you can have attack without a defence. Well, at least one that does not leak 59 Premier League goals like Everton last season.

Roman Sidey
71 Posted 30/07/2016 at 13:09:56
Five years? So it will be 2021 before we score from a corner again. The odd goal from a free-kick and two penalties per year. Chuffed.
Tony Draper
72 Posted 30/07/2016 at 20:07:25
Love Bainesy, not his fault that this bloody ankle injury has restricted his a availability for too long. A training ground injury originally.

Would hate to lose him prematurely, but please no more "Hibbert Goes Fishing Contracts".

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