£50m Stones and a market gone mad

29 July  18 Comments  [Jump to last]
Rory Smith argues that the inflated domestic transfer market rather than John Stones's form over the past 12 months is the reason behind his lofty value this summer.

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Bob Hannigan
2 Posted 29/07/2016 at 23:10:11
Too bad, Man City... pay up!
Colin Glassar
3 Posted 29/07/2016 at 23:15:48
I bet Moshiri is shaking in his boots.
Anthony Dwyer
4 Posted 30/07/2016 at 00:47:44
No-one at Everton should give two fucks what the outside world says about the valuation we put on our players. If we value Stones at £50m+, Rom at £75m and McGeady at the price of a happy meal at McDonalds, then we have every right too.

We need to tell teams to put up or shut up, put a deadline on transfers and stick to our guns. Once the first ball of the season is kicked, I'd tell every player that they will be sticking to their signed contracts until at least January.

We have a monopoly here, we have two sought-after youngsters whose value continues to rise. Neither of them have European football this season, so both of them will be major coups in January for any top Champions league side, or any rich Premier League side looking to bolster their squads for the business end of the season. We have both players on fairly long deals so we shouldn't let potential buyers dictate.

I'd much rather see Ronald Koeman concentrate on buying a keeper, and some quality outfield players, whilst thinning out the deadwood, readying the squad for stern tests that await them this season. McGeady, Kone, Niasse, Robles, Barry and Gibson should go long before we take lower bids for our main stars. We already seem to have a load of money we cant give away.

Mike Green
5 Posted 30/07/2016 at 01:09:01
If that's right, why did we turn down £38m last year?

We valued him at around £50m then, now someone looks like they're willing to pay it and for many other reasons it might get done. If anything, his price should higher now.

Stick to pissing-in-the-wind journalism, Smith, and stay out of negotiating; you'd be looking for a job before the shite you write became chip paper.

Derek Turner
6 Posted 30/07/2016 at 08:23:39
The problem is that McGeady will eat the happy meal and then we have "lost" him for nothing. The only return will be the spare salt packet. I'd still take it though, salt comes in useful.
Peter Hennessey
7 Posted 30/07/2016 at 09:16:53
I am so fed up of this. He wants to leave, so sell him; but sell him for the best price.

How good or bad he is makes no difference. He wants to leave.

It doesn't matter what should have happened with him and who is responsible. He wants to leave.

Sell him; take no notice of half witted journalists and let's get players who want to play for Everton and not for just big money.

Everton matter more than anything or anyone else, if a player doesn't understand or doesn't believe this, he is the wrong player and shouldn't be tolerated.

He wants to leave so sell him and don't bother about how good he could have been with us.

Anthony Dwyer
8 Posted 30/07/2016 at 13:34:07
Ha ha ha
Chris Williams
9 Posted 30/07/2016 at 13:53:43
Too much money chasing too little quality.

Demand increases and supply stagnates.

Pretty much the classic definitions of inflation.

When the bottom team this season in the Premier League will 'win' £99M, what do these geniuses expect?

Phil Walling
10 Posted 30/07/2016 at 19:06:12
The old Economics Text Book used to say 'the price of a good is the price of a good'. In other words 'what a buyer is prepared to pay for it'.

Kenwright is still 'doing the negotiating' apparently, so he can ask whatever price he chooses. It's getting the buggers to pay it that's the problem !

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 30/07/2016 at 19:16:02
Derek that was funny lol
Ray Said
12 Posted 30/07/2016 at 19:17:17
Strange sort of economics at play in Manchester.

Imagine I go into Currys for a 60 inch 4k tv. Its priced up at a grand but I 'don't wish to pay that' and want it for 800. How successful would I be? The price is the price, pay it or don't pay or if Stones wants out so much then he should put it in writing, forgo his 10% of the transfer and we may knock that amount of the price?

Joe Hurst
13 Posted 30/07/2016 at 20:08:20
If he misses playing kerbie at the Park End with Timmeh, then aww sorry lad, but you were being given the "Row Z, Dick 'ed" grumblings for a reason.

Tens of mill for someone who hasn't yet learned to put safer odds of outcome above risky picturebook defending? It would be amusing if it wasn't our beloved blues suffering the tantrums he looked to be showing.

Tony Abrahams
14 Posted 30/07/2016 at 20:44:03
As far as I am concerned, and more importantly how Everton, are concerned, then if these players, want to leave, they should both hand in written transfer requests. Otherwise, as Anthony says, we should tell City and Chelsea, that we want X amount of money, by a certain date, or please just leave us alone.
Brin Williams
15 Posted 30/07/2016 at 21:05:49
When somebody wants... really, really wants what you have, it is only right they pay what you want... What you really, really want... otherwise just tell them you don't really, really want to do business. That way, they will really really get the message. Really!
Martin Mason
16 Posted 30/07/2016 at 21:37:32
The market hasn't gone mad, it is a question of too much money (Sky) chasing too few players; simple supply and demand.

Agents are parasites but even their rates are fixed by supply and demand.

Tony Draper
17 Posted 30/07/2016 at 22:05:48
Dynasties change in football, some rapidly, some gradually, some rightly, some wrongly, some painfully, some gloriously, some briefly, some for a seeming eternity...

If you can't hack ALL of that, then YOU are NOT
EFC Rhesus Positive!

Tony Draper
18 Posted 30/07/2016 at 22:44:02
Oh, and when City were first taken over they were dancing and singing .

"We got Robinho! We got Robinho!"

So, "Show us the FUCKIN' MONEY!!!"

Derek Thomas
19 Posted 31/07/2016 at 11:44:22
We turned down £40M when he wasn't playing badly and in a different financial climate.

Given the total silliness of fees NOW, £50M more than reflects his poor form.

On top of that, I'd be looking for Man City to pay Barnsley's percentage too... fuck em, they want him, pay up or do one.

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