Koeman: Transfer window was a positive one

8 September  88 Comments  [Jump to last]
Ronald Koeman says he was happy overall with his transfer business over the summer and has highlighted the signings he was able to make over the summer.

The manager acknowledged the failed deadline-day bid for Moussa Sissoko in his press conference today, but described the group of incoming players since he arrived as being "really positive."

Everton made a late bid to bring on Sissoko from Newcastle United on Wednesday last week but were pipped to the £30m signing by Tottenham Hotspur whose offer of Champions League football likely proved decisive in the Frenchman's decision.

Koeman was asked how he felt the window went for Everton in view of that last-day disappointment but the Dutchman was upbeat.

“Overall [it was] positive window because we signed some good players like Stekelenburg, the goalkeeper, Williams, Idrissa Gana, Bolasie, Enner Valencia.... I think that is really positive.

"I'm happy about the signings and I'm really happy about the squad and what we have at the moment. Of course, we need to keep going, keep fighting at keep the spirit.

"Of course, we had a disappointment on the last day but that happens in football. You don't always get what you like to have and that was not in our hands.

“The player Sissoko... OK, he chose finally a different option, but I can't say anything against the club, the board, the chairman because he did everything to get the player."

Much has been made of Sissoko's volte face in the final hour of the window just when it looked as though he was destined for Goodison Park.

Koeman was asked of how he thought the player conducted himself but the Dutchman declined to pass judgement due to the fact that he was not privy to the conversations and negotiations at that point.

"From my position, it's difficult because I didn't do the business," Koeman explained. "I didn't have the meetings with his agents but, of course, from outside it was difficult. I spoke to the player about 10 days before the last day of the window and the player showed his interest in coming to Everton.

"It was difficult because [we felt] he was the player for us and what we needed at that moment and then the picture [would have been totally perfect]. But still, [even] without that player the picture is very good.

"It was more difficult for everyone to sign players. It's all about money and sometimes it makes the business very difficult."  


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Steavey Buckley
1 Posted 08/09/2016 at 16:49:38
Sorry, to differ, but Everton are very light in numbers in midfield and upfront (no other recognised goal scorer other than Lukaku) and that will be a major problem until the next transfer window is open again, if Everton want to do well this season.
Michael Kenrick
2 Posted 08/09/2016 at 16:52:51
So... Who to believe? The man himself, with his reasonable and balanced comments?

Or the frenetic TDD knee-jerkers who claim he is deeply unhappy, betrayed, leaving for sure this season?

Perhaps the more ridiculous posts can now be set aside until the madness resumes in January?

Brian Harrison
5 Posted 08/09/2016 at 16:58:52
I am sure that, apart from the two managers of the Manchester clubs, most Premier League managers may have had 1 or 2 that got away. But Koeman was happy with the window overall and he also said that the club did all they could over the Sissoko deal.

Now I know some will say "Well, he had to say that" but I think if he had felt the club had let him down he might have just said he was disappointed not to get him, but he didn't – he said they did all they could.

I think it's time to put the transfer window to bed and get on with picking up points in our next few games which all look winnable to me.

Mark Melton
6 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:01:29
Quite right, Michael. The best players don't want to come yet. Only results will set us apart from the Stokes and Southamptons of this world. I trust Koeman to work with what he has and hopefully strengthen in January.
Andrew Clare
7 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:16:50
Let's look forward to the games now. We have improved the team, the players are/will be fitter and highly motivated and we have some exciting youngster coming through. Positive thinking does wonders and Ronald is a positive guy. COYBs
Lyndon Lloyd
8 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:17:09
To be fair, even the forthright Mr Koeman isn't going to tell the media that he's pissed off because his squad isn't where it should be after the deadline day debacle, is he?

I'm sure he was disappointed by the failure to add more players before the window closed but he's also talked of things in terms of a two-year horizon to get the team to where he wants it so I'm sure he'll just get on with it.

Kevin Rowlands
9 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:20:13
I agree with the manager, we are a stronger team than the one that finished last season, maybe deadline day was disappointing but the overall window was pretty good.

As for Sissoko, if you read most Newcastle fans opinion of him it's that he only shows up occasionally and considering his actions on deadline day I think we swerved a headache with him.

Time to move on, looking forward to giving the ginger twats mob a good hiding on Monday.

Ian Burns
10 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:21:15
In truth this article makes me feel much better as my main concern re TDD was how RK would react. Even if he is spouting the party line, I am happy he remains fully on board with the ongoing project
Paul Kossoff
11 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:22:14
Bull shit!!! Toe the line, don't rock the boat, know your place and do as your told. This is our new manager doing a Moyes.

So apart from Kenwright, one of the few people happy with the players brought in is Koeman. Absolute bull.

Phil Walling
12 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:23:33
I think the manager's comments confirm that it is still BK 'doing the business'. Or not doing the business in this case.

Just perhaps, Bill was about as enthusiastic for Sissoko as most of us were. So thanks, Bill for missing the bullet!

Paul Ellam
13 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:25:21
This is the first time I think I disagree with Mr Koeman. He is obviously trying to put positive spin on a poor situation. He is correct in that we brought in some decent signings but there should have been more, especially with our new found wealth!

There are areas of the team/squad that need vast improvement and we have fallen short in acquiring players to sort the problems. We identified the players but couldn't do enough to persuade them to join, or got gazumped!

Hopefully under this new regime we will learn from our hard luck and bad results in the transfer market and make sure we rectify things when we next get the chance.

Tony Hill
14 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:26:47
Elegantly done by Ronald and confirms what a major asset he is for us. Let's make sure we don't let him down as fans, I'm sure we won't.
Brent Stephens
15 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:28:15
Paul #11 "Bull shit!!! Toe the line, don't rock the boat, know your place and do as your told. This is our new manager doing a Moyes."

Paul, you sound very certain about all that. How do you know he's toeing "the line"? Evidence? What has he been "told"? You were clearly there when he was told, so let us in on the secret!

Paul Kossoff
16 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:29:52
Ian 10, That's the problem, he is spouting the party line, that's the one thing we don't want Koeman doing, press statements written by Kenwright and Co.

I want him fuming at this TDD, saying he will get the type of players he wants in January or next Summer, we don't want another Martinez.

If I was Koeman, I would be telling the board that if this is the way things are then I'll resign.

Paul Kossoff
17 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:32:21
Oh don't be stupid Brent, you know what I mean, and you know full well how things are run at Everton. This is someone towing the line, but I hope he's man enough to tell Kenwright where to go.
Brian Williams
18 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:38:00
And that's why he's the manger and not you, Paul.

On another note his comments show that Sissoko is as two-faced as some of us thought. He denied any talks, or chance of coming to Everton (understandably perhaps after having signed for Spurs) and yet Koeman mentioned that he'd been speaking to the player over coming to our club.

Have to say though, if we were willing to pay the £30m asking price why didn't we just do that ten days before the window shut, when Koeman was talking to him?

Guess we'll never know.

Martin Nicholls
19 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:38:56
So:

(1) Either Moshiri didn't tweet, or he lied by saying we'd withdrawn interest in Sissoko so as not to upset McCarthy. I believe the former.

(2) Koeman wasn't frantically phoning Sissoko only to be ignored, as was claimed in the tabloids.

Joe Clitherow
20 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:41:43
"I want him fuming at this TDD."

So that's the driver then, Paul, that's the basis for your utter conviction that the man we enticed after a long pursuit is spouting "bullshit"? Not listening to what he says and paying him some respect at being truthful but effectively calling RK a liar because he doesn't say what you want him to say? And therefore that must be true.

There is a strong whiff of bullshit around but it isn't coming from Koeman in my opinion.

Phil Walling
21 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:42:55
We have what we have and are about to discover if the players we have are capable of nailing down a place in the top half.

Personally, I'm happier without Sissoko than I would be with him on board and, indeed, RK's apparent keenness to sign him has planted the first seed of doubt in the manager's judgement.

But three points on Monday may well assuage that!

Paul Kossoff
22 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:43:26
Michael 2, I hope come May we are top seven at least and a new stadium announced, will you be happy with less?

You know that Kenwright is still in charge with all things at Everton and that's not good for this club, this transfer window shows that.

Ste Traverse
23 Posted 08/09/2016 at 17:54:38
I think I'm going with what RK has said. I'm sick of hearing the whinging and cry-arsing from some of our lot who were demanding a load of TDD panic buys to satisfy their lust for new acquisistions.

If we'd have got another 3 these types would probably still be moaning why haven't we got 6 as we've got the money need a bigger squad if we are going to blah blah fucking blah.

Chris Gould
24 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:00:07
Phil, I disagree. I think Koeman wants a fast, powerful counter attacking team. Sissoko would have thrived in such a set up.

Newcastle fans are berating him the same way many Villa fans did with Gueye. When you're in a shit team it's hard to stand out. It's also hard to motivate yourself when the team is so poor every week. Not that Gueye didn't work hard, but he still couldn't look good in a shit team even when his individual performances were good.

In a good team, Sissoko will thrive. Koeman wanted him and I trust his judgement over Newcastle fans who watched him in a piss poor team. In saying that, I only want players that want to play for us.

Ian Jones
25 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:00:09
My feeling is that Koeman is more than happy to kick up a fuss if he wants to.

The Dutch are generally known to be quite direct and upfront about their thoughts. I can't see from recent interviews that he is any different.

Who knows. Shocking though it might be to some TW followers, but perhaps he is reasonably happy with his lot, understands the world of football and how transfers are conducted, the whims of agents and players and definitely knows more than most of us experts on here. :)

We certainly don't have another Martinez in our midst.

Why is it always about spending loads of money??? I am sure he will identify gaps as the season progresses.

Barry Jones
26 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:00:36
I would say that we have had as good a transfer window as I can recall in the last decade or so. Koeman, I believe, is being straightforward and honest in his assessment. Three games in, no losses, seven points, renewed vigour and a positive vibe. The negativity is baffling.
John Daley
27 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:06:45
"...that's the one thing we don't want Koeman doing, press statements written by Kenwright and Co. I want him fuming at this TDD"

.... and you're telling other people not to be stupid? You honestly think Koeman (or any recent Everton manager come to that) has gone out there to front up the press armed with a script penned by Captain Coro?

As the man himself said, you don't always succeed in securing the targets you set your sights on when you're forced to go shopping amidst a crowd full of jostling competitors all desperately impersonating Arnie in 'Jingle All The Way'. When that's the case, you work with what you've got and get ready to go again next time round.

What would a full-on public fume from the manager achieve apart from disharmony in the ranks, a spoilt bastard like fleeting moment of self satisfaction at showing others up, and a few "s'right Ronald lad" pats on the back from mouthy, want everything this moment, pricks with no knowledge whatsoever of how things actually went down behind the scenes?

"If I was RK I would be telling the board that if this is the way things are then I'll resign." – Yeah, course you would.

You'd be ready to forgo your fucking millions and leave with your reputation in tatters as someone who gets a titty lip on and walks out on your club a couple of months into your contractual commitment 'cos dey couldn't make someone say 'yes' when dey didn't want to. What's so hard about dat? Laurence Olivier managed it with just a dentist's drill in 'Marathon Man' mate and he didn't have anywhere near as much dough as Moshiri... and he's dead. Like this club. Dead. Zombieeeees of the Premier League. Walking into oblivion.

People are laughing at us lad! Don't you realise that? People are pissing themselves at the fact Everton never made one of dem new fangled, de rigueur, marquee signings every other fucker takes for granted, after I convinced meself dey would as well, or spent as much money as I personally wanted them to. It's not fucking on I'm telling ya dat right now.'

Colin Glassar
28 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:19:14
As I predicted a few days ago, Ronald has shown himself to be a team player and will obviously not put his well paid job at risk by complaining about the amateurs in charge of transfers. Nothing new there and I wasn't expecting anything else to be honest.

The indisputable fact is that he is on record as saying that he needed 4-6 new players, then he reduced it to 2-3 and he didn't get them. Spin this as you like but the truth is he didn't get the players he said he needed.

Mike Gaynes
29 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:25:57
Paul K... you really need to cut back on the pickling in that gefilte fish receipe. I think you've soured your entire cortex.

You're entitled to your opinion, but if you really believe renowned tough guy Ronald Koeman is reading "press statements written by Kenwright and Co" as you put it... your circuits need some serious rewiring.

Mark Morrissey
30 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:28:39
I suspect the reason we didn't sign Sissoko weeks prior to TDD was because we couldn't. His agent would have been trying to get a CL club to buy him, minimum, a club who is in European football this season and we simply are not that club. His agent will have been trying to cut the best deal for his client.

Koeman said he was interested in coming to Everton but we got gazumped at the 11th hour. That's football. RK has reflected on the other business we did and I think he seems relatively happy, pragmatic. He knows he was up against a twat of an agent and you win some, you lose some.

He was not reading from a script at all, he was simply being 100% honest. Let's hope Sissoko proves to be a lazy wank stain.

James Hughes
31 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:31:40
John Daley, thanks for that as I started writing something similar and got bored as it we have done it to death on here.

Colin, so we signed:

1. Stekelenburg,
2. Williams,
3. Gueye,
4. Bolassie

All of whom have played for first team. doesn't count as four signings... or are you gonna dismiss Stek as not his?

Eddie Dunn
32 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:35:10
Koeman seems pragmatic. The end of the window was disappointing but on the whole we strengthened.

The Morshiri episode is interesting in that it has thrown into perspective some of the prior views on his wonderfulness, and superior business acumen. I hope this was an unfortunate blip, as it was getting late and things were going tits-up!

I, for one, am looking forward to the resumption of the League, proper footy and a chance to assess our progress on the park.

Colin Glassar
33 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:38:43
James, his comments were made AFTER he signed these players, not before.
Brent Stephens
34 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:42:23
Paul #17 "Oh don't be stupid Brent, you know what I mean, and you know full well how things are run at Everton."

Abuse doesn't strengthen your already weak case, Paul. You have no evidence that Koeman is "toeing the line", as you assert. Pure guesswork.

As Brian #18 says...

James Hughes
35 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:49:40
Colin I will take your word for it, but as I say it's now been done to death.
Peter Lee
36 Posted 08/09/2016 at 18:52:25
Didn't want Sissoko, Newcastle mate had little good to say about him over his time there. Koeman clearly felt that he could get something out of him that he hadn't given at St James' Park. No problem with the manager backing his judgement.

Regarding the transfer, to Spurs. It was a choice that a Frenchman had between another northern city, at a club with no European football, versus a club in the Champions League, playing in London, which I understand has more French nationals living there than any other city in the world outside Paris. Okay, it's £5 a pint but I don't think that will be an issue do you?

Incidentally, no one is asking why the lad wasn't in play earlier than deadline day. NUFC clearly wanted shut but there was nobody seriously in for him. Wonder why not? That being the case, waiting until the last moment seemed a good move, pity Daniel Levy was taking the same approach.

James Marshall
37 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:05:37
Managers don't do anything (most of them) regarding transfers these days – they identify targets of course (along with scouts) but the money side is left to the directors to sort out.

Anyone who think Koeman himself has any dealing to do is clearly still living in the '70s. RK is a football man, not a businessman.

Peter Cummings
38 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:05:53
It will be very interesting to see how Monday's game turns out and how Moyes 'motivates' his players to get the points from us. Whatever one has to say about him, he didn't waste the club's cash on prima donnas and used the lower divisions to unearth some sparkling gems, most of whom went from near obscurity to represent their native countries.

While we didn't win anything worthwhile under him, his teams gave us some memorable performances both at home and away.

While some posters on TW are lamenting the result of the late transfer window with Koeman being unable to strengthen the team despite his efforts, it may be worth remembering that there are still more than a few, as yet undiscovered, gems in the bowels of those lower leagues where EFC have done so well in the past and where they should concentrate in future.

Kevin Rowlands
39 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:09:44
Colin, go on Sporting Life's transfer information page and you will see that ONLY Man City out of the top clubs brought more players in than us and they loaned 2 or three of them out. Just because he says he wants 4 players doesn't mean he's going to get them.

Anyone who thinks our problems would be solved in one transfer window is delusional after the mess we were in at the end of last season, and anyone suggesting that Koeman is a Moshiri - Kenwright puppet is just being plain ludicrous.

Darren Hind
40 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:11:16
Next time Ronald do NOT leave it to the fabled Goodison "recruitment department"

I Like this guy, so I cant for the life of me understand why he wanted to pay 30m for a water carrier who score's marginally more often than Tony Hibbert.

Everton will not finish below a team that has Sissoko in it. Lump on us to finish above Spurs.

Jon Cox
41 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:17:06
Paul, I understand your sentiments, but you're rambling on as if you know RK personally.

With regard to transfers then our beloved Everton did the BEST singular transfer of 2016 .

Ronald Koeman.

(Still should of been sent off though but that's another story...)

Paul Kossoff
42 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:29:00
Bran 18, If I was the manager, Koeman wouldn't be here, why? because Martinez wouldn't have been here either, because I'm damn sure I would have done a better job then Bobby, then again, who wouldn't?
Ciarán McGlone
43 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:33:42
Is Koeman now saying that his comments about 3/4 players were wrong..? because it certainly doesn't accord with what he's saying here.

Anyway, no point going over it at this stage... the dust has settled and I've taken a valium.

Paul Kossoff
44 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:33:52
Jon 41, No I don't know Koeman, but I'm well aware of Kenwright and his men, it's just a matter of time until Koeman gets to know him. Let's hope he sees through the lies he spouts, and more importantly that he doesn't stand for it.
Paul Kossoff
45 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:37:09
Jon 41, Although ramble on is one of my favourite Zeppelin songs, I do not as a whole 'unless it's Saturday and Everton are playing,' ramble on, I'll stop there for fear of being told I'm rambling on.
Ian Riley
46 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:38:59
Everton made a profit from the Stones sale and recruitment of players. Nothing has changed really. Our new co-owner must feel a bit silly with the promise of significant funding for new players. Chasing players in the last hours of the transfer window shows desperation not a clear plan of targets.
Joe Clitherow
47 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:42:27
They would still have sacked you for Koeman Paul K. Unless you are really really good.

Paul K for manager I say. Cos he's really really good. Cos he says he is and cos he won't toe party line and be really really fuming every TDD.

Oooohh I'm livid I am!!

Denis Richardson
48 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:49:02
Very measured response from RK and I suspect it's just about right. We tried to get players, won some lost some. I really don't think he's 'fuming' or toeing the line as some suggest. Fact is we finished 11th last two seasons, have won fuck all for two decades, never played in the Champions League and are based in Liverpool (no offence to those living there), a city not favoured by players when compared to the likes of London. We are not going to get every player we go after, some people need to digest and accept that fact.

Sissoko chose Spurs – Everton didn't fuck up
Moyes wouldn't let Kone go – Everton didn't fuck up
The likes of Witsel and the Napoli defender never wanted to come to us in the first place. Money was provided (over and above the Stones money), the players just didn't want to come.

All-in-all, being reasonable, it was a decent window for us imo. We significantly beefed up the defensive side. ALL permanent transfers brought in are better than what we had before. Valencia will provide back up to Rom. Also we have space in the squad for a couple of the youngsters to step up and I'm looking forward to seeing the likes of Holgate and Davies develop in the first team. We've also made a really decent start and could be sitting top 4 come the next international break in October.

Let's give RK the time and space to take us forward. He can't rebuild a whole side in one window but he's made a decent start.

Bill Gienapp
49 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:52:17
The only reason I was willing to get on board with the Sissoko move (when it appeared to be happening) was the notion that Koeman might bring out the best in him. He has spent the past couple seasons playing under the likes of Steve McClaren and Jack freakin' Carver, to be fair. But I still think we dodged a £30-million bullet.

Meanwhile, I swear, there are people on here who'd have actually been gratified if Koeman resigned on the spot. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Colin Glassar
50 Posted 08/09/2016 at 19:54:54
I'm ready to move on. What happened, happened. We can't change it but I hope lessons were learnt and we don't repeat the same mistakes in the future.
Russ Quinlan
51 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:09:14
I wasn't bothered about Sissoko, other than him playing us off against Spurs, who the hell is he anyway!

It's not like we missed out on a prolific goalscorer, is it, or another Messi? I mean, £30m for a player who rates himself higher than anyone else.

Lets just move on and support the squad we have, still exciting times ahead with Koeman in charge.

Stan Schofield
52 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:10:49
Just a question, on Koeman having said he wanted 3/4 players. Did he say he wanted them all by this transfer window, or did he say he wanted them within the two-year time span he'd indicated for getting the team where he wanted it?
Kunal Desai
53 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:12:06
Did Koeman not say in his press conference that the reasons they didn't get certain players were because they were not in Europe? Everton are NOT an attractive proposition 'at this moment in time' for those looking to forward their careers by playing in Europe.

We cannot offer that, we tried and went for those players to see if they may be interested. Until we get back to a regular top six side, hate to say it as the ginger one achieved, then it's unlikely the better calibre players will come to Goodison.

This club needs to start getting the ball rolling on the stadium front, no fannying around with small talk. There now needs to be some concrete work going on with getting a stadium underway and putting a reasonable timeframe in place for when the transition will take place. A state-of-the-art arena and European nights will start pulling in the better players.

As for Sissoko, no thanks, even the Spurs fans can't believe they got him!

Jon Cox
54 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:13:11
Paul, ramble on, it's a good job the "Autumn moon lights my way" or else I'd never get home!

All I was trying to say was that I thought you were giving a sort of knee-jerk job.

Funny enough I was in the pro-Sissoko scissors camp. I was defo brainwashed by him in the Euros.

It was that quantum leap to that visual mind's eye; of that all-conquering midfield that Napoleon desperately wanted when faced against Wellingkloppton. But I say never mind – we have the Everton we have, and we're all Evertonians.

Oh and Brent, in the Bullens Road for the Borough match. Meet in the bar at half time. If you buy me a pint, I'll remember me in your will!!

Paul Tran
55 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:15:28
The whole point of the transfer window is to strengthen the team. The team is now stronger.

I've said all summer, if you're a European footballer looking at the Premier League, most of them will prefer a London club in the Champions League to a mid-table Merseyside club.

We had to play late for the reasons above, we gambled and we didn't get lucky.

If we make our own luck, win games and look more attractive, our chances will increase in January. And it gives us time to actually source some players.

It's not about what they cost, it's about what they actually do.

Pete Edwards
56 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:18:11
I think what Koeman has said pretty much confirms the Jim White texts are a load of crap (to me anyway). And also, can all the people having a go at the club for trying to sign Sissoko in a rush on the last day pipe down now? 10 days they were talking to him for! I personally I feel that we will realise we've dodged a bullet with him anyway
David Chait
57 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:21:14
I totally agree with how he handled the questions and it's important to show solidarity with the owners when it counts and faith in your team!

So it's fine for me as a fan to have a go (as I did) but as a manager you have to remain professional.

Anyone who thinks he should have used it as a mouth piece to have a go clearly works for themselves as they wouldn't hold down any job for very long.

Les Martin
58 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:22:17
Excellent progress made in the last 2 months, new wealthy invester, new manager, director of football, new signings and then there's the ground move that will excite.

I also expect some business in January. How anyone can complain is beyond belief... wake up!!

Jon Cox
59 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:25:20
Kunal,

"This club needs to start getting the ball rolling on the stadium front, no fannying around with small talk."

Good call.

They need to hurry up cos I'm getting sick of YouTube re-runs of Kings Dock virtual Kenwright shite.

Love the spacey music though. Who wrote it?

Rob Dolby
60 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:26:42
Talk about flogging a dead horse.

The TDD only proved that we don't have as much money as everyone was talking about.

Brent Stephens
61 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:27:49
"I spoke to [Sissoko] about 10 days before the last day of the window and the player showed his interest in coming to Everton."

Yes, that's interesting. 10 days before.

Mike Green
63 Posted 08/09/2016 at 20:57:15
Well done Ron, perfect response.

We really could have a class act on our hands with this man as manager – picked and recruited by the one and only... Mr Moshiri.

Well done, Mosh!

Martin Mason
64 Posted 08/09/2016 at 21:00:31
Mike, and by default by Kenwright

Rob, not that we didn't have the money only that we were outbid at the death.

What would you have paid for Sissoko to change his mind about going to Spurs, in London with CL football?

Get real.

Peter Mills
65 Posted 08/09/2016 at 21:33:10
Mr Koeman is calm, measured, talks about improving players, and winning, and in the very short period of time he's been in charge of our team he has achieved excellent results. I'm okay with that.
Roger Helm
66 Posted 08/09/2016 at 21:51:00
Surprising how many TWers are talking like children throwing a tantrum because they didn't get every single thing they wanted for Christmas. I thought we signed some good players for reasonable prices. Well done, RK, say I.
Paul Conway
67 Posted 08/09/2016 at 22:06:21
Look at it positively.

We done very well in the transfer Window. We avoided another panic buy, whether by fuck-uppery or whatever, it maybe made us avoid another Niasse fiasco.

Let the gravy train chug on! COYB!

Peter Mills
68 Posted 08/09/2016 at 22:22:08
As if logging in to TW during a matchless period hasn't been grim enough, I now find my whole career negotiating land and property transactions is reduced to "fannying around with small talk".
Michael Winstanley
69 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:07:20
I like Koeman, he tells it how it is. I don't know much about Sissoko but Koeman wanted him to play his system, 'we would have been perfect'.

He's happy with the seven forwards to complete for the three forward spots, don't forget Kone.

He also said we're getting there with the desired fitness levels, nearly but not quite.

And on Barkley playing for England, he said it's down to the player to perform each week so he has to be selected.

There's no day dreaming going on here. He's clinical.

Jamie Crowley
70 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:08:00
Lyndon at 4:

To be fair, even the forthright Mr Koeman isn't going to tell the media that he's pissed off because his squad isn't where it should be after the deadline day debacle, is he?

I'm not so sure about that. RK has balls of steel and I honestly believe, were he unhappy, he'd of said so.

My opinion, but this man absolutely tells it like it is. And were he truly pissed and felt unsupported and let down, I think he'd let it be known.

Maybe not... but that's my take on it.

Gerry Quinn
71 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:13:46
So OFM scoffed 10 million compensation off Everton in one hit - should have given him feckin Niasse!
Gerry Quinn
72 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:15:55
Agree with you there Jamie - I get the impression that RK would say it like it is, nothing seems to phase him. Will be interesting to see his reaction if/when we lose a game. Hairdryers should be locked away...
Paul Jennings
73 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:27:06
Everton have had a very good window. Just because you don't buy on the last day paying the last-minute lottery does not mean it's bad. Do the business early like RK did is the way to go. Thank God we never got the mercenary Sissoko.

RK would not have come if he did not trust the board. We need a couple of players but, bloody hell, give everyone a chance. New team new and better times.
Jon Withey
74 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:33:02
Still confused on Sissoko anyway – a smokescreen?

Kone? Slimani? etc, etc. Surely there were things we needed more right now.

Oliver Molloy
75 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:40:08
Maybe we didn't sign anyone because of the news we apparently had to pay Martinez £10 million recently!
Kevin Rowlands
76 Posted 08/09/2016 at 23:50:50
Exactly Michael (#69), and to think that there are posters on here who actually believe Luvvie and the Mosh have given him a script and told him what to say? It really is fucking laughable, Koeman is going to be the best thing that happened to our club in 30 years, imho of course.
Darren Hind
77 Posted 08/09/2016 at 00:20:33
Martin Mason

"and Kenwright by default" . .that's one way of looking at it.

It was only six months ago he was congratulating himself on his last choice "what a manager".

Remind me, was that before or after he lined his pockets at the expense of the club he loves?

Mike T Jones
78 Posted 09/09/2016 at 00:31:00
I love Everton. I love Evertonians. Although I think some of you are mad conspiracy theorists on ToffeeWeb; some contributors are paranoid at worst or pessimists at best, Take your wife (or husband, or partner) out for a drink and relax!. Different times are coming.

And stop blaming Kenwright; he doesn't have the power you perceive ... does he? :-)

Jamie Sweet
79 Posted 09/09/2016 at 03:34:02
I think that the 3 or 4 more players line was said before certain things were known:

1. Stek is a more than capable 1st choice keeper.

2. Holgate is a more than capable option as back up right back and centre half.

We signed Valencia as back up forward (even if he wasn't top of our wanted list), and missed out on Mr poor attitude Sissoko.

I think that is why he only mentioned Sissoko as a disappointment, as he is the type of player RK feels we needed one more of... everything else is pretty well covered until
January.

Stan Schofield
80 Posted 09/09/2016 at 09:52:16
Jamie @79: Yes. What RK has said amounts, basically, to what might be called a 'gap analysis'. We are well covered overall, but there are one or two gaps, squad-wise, that could do with filling to cater for eventualities like injuries.

When you thought you'd fill the gaps, but didn't quite do it, it's disappointing, not disastrous. Some on TW are speaking of it as if it were a disaster.

Laurie Hartley
81 Posted 09/09/2016 at 12:00:37
For me there is something very reassuring about listening and watching a Koeman interview. I think we have a real one this time.
Nathan Rooney
82 Posted 09/09/2016 at 13:05:31
Koeman's stock keeps rising for me – pressers are so much more sensible, believable and insightful these days.

He makes the statement allegedly attributed to Moshiri about us looking after Jimmy Mc by pulling out of the deal for that poncey fuckstick Sissoko, look even more stupid and nonsensical, but I will forgive Moshiri that one for now – Moshiri needs to get something out about the stadium and fuck Elstone and Bill off asap, to fully restore my confidence in him.

Koeman also, beautifully, makes said poncey fuckstick look a total and utter lying little shite, after his statement about his love for Spurs (or is it Arsenal??) and never being interested in Everton! I get the feeling Koeman ain't lying – how about you Sissoko la?

All the chat on these pages about it being the same as always, nothing changed, were still skint, is a little premature and hysterical. TDD was disappointing, but the window was not as bad as some are making out.

If we had sold poncey fuckstick Mk 2 Stones (who didn't want to be here) and not bought anybody of note, then kick off all you want folks, but we have, without a doubt, strengthened the squad.

Koeman's presser also suggests that we were trying to sign players, and had a bid accepted for Sissoko, so how do people come to the assumption that we have not got any money or don't want to spend it? Koeman states he was in contact personally with Sissoko “10 days” before the deadline – seems like we were trying to do business to me.

With Brahimi, Sissoko etc, IMHO it seems we have been arsed about by the players and their agents, or the selling clubs (Porto) – Koeman's remarks about agents and all about the money seem to back that up.

The signings of Koeman and Walsh will be the most important business the club has done in the last 20 years – I'm prepared to give these fellas a chance to show me what they can do with a few transfer windows and seasons behind them, or to properly fuck things up and be let down by the board of EFC in the meantime, before I start slagging everything & everyone off.

Thank Christ the rigmarole of TDD is gone for a few months at least, and I can get back to the footy!

Koeman, You Blues!

Kevin Moorcroft
83 Posted 09/09/2016 at 13:51:55
Just read all the comments in various areas of TW. I can't understand the negativity expressed by some supporters of Everton FC. It's a complete new era in many respects: manager, playing staff, directors, etc. I think the trouble with some is that they are looking for the worst to happen.

We need to be positive and realize it will take time. It took old whisky nose a few years before he struck gold at Man Utd. Howard Kendall was nearly dismissed before our glorious period in the '80s.

I'll make judgement after this season unfolds and a mid- to top-end-of-the-table position would suffice along with concrete evidence of the new stadium in place.

Let's please be patient although understandably frustration is hard to handle by many. Up the Blues!! 2-0 on Monday night!

Mike Dolan
84 Posted 09/09/2016 at 14:38:43
Koeman is the man. It's OK by me. Yay, we didn't get that marquee signing in the last window. With the new additions we have a good team now,certainly better than last year and so a big improvement right there. Plus we are much better trained and coached now. Maybe this season we can score a few from set pieces!

If you take all of the leads that we lost last year in the final 20 minutes, if you take all of the games blown by atrocious defending and goalkeeping and just give us half of them, we would have finished in the top four. We have every reason to realistically feel good about this season and for our future.

Stan Schofield
85 Posted 09/09/2016 at 16:07:34
Mike @84: I agree. Also, last season, we were one of the top hitters of the woodwork, so a tad unlucky as well, which doesn't of course take anything away from the then management problems. I always felt we had a good squad. Now it's stronger, with much better management thus far.
Robert Workman
87 Posted 09/09/2016 at 21:02:49
It was interesting what Koeman didn't say. No mention of any disappointment in not signing one of the strikers with whom we were linked. Was that all just newspaper talk? His only expressed disappointment was over Sissoko.

I like his style and believe he would have mentioned the striker (apart from Valencia), if it had really been a concern for him.

Barry Jones
88 Posted 09/09/2016 at 22:50:05
Mikes #78 and #84, well said. As the Monkees belted out, "I 'm a believer". Lets be optimistic about this season, sit back and enjoy it for a change.
Dave Speed
89 Posted 10/09/2016 at 10:30:02
When we look at the transfer window, it is with the perception that we needed many better players and/or one or two marquee signings. This of course sends the message to the rest of the squad that they are not good enough. I don't want to single out any players, but in some cases that may be true.

However, the long-held view of EFC under Moyes was that we often "punched above our weight" but, under Martinez, the view after his first season changed to "Why is such a talented squad under performing?"

I believe that, even though the TDD was not what everyone expected, and Koeman said it without the tantrums, we have a squad that can again be coached to play at least to their talent, which will be better than the last two seasons. If RK can also get that bit extra out of them like Moyes did, then who knows?

He has already brought organisation, better fitness and confidence, resulting in our best start in a decade, so I for one am upbeat for the first time in years. Remember the time of year that Moyes took over, and we can see that he turned it around only with the players at his disposal, proving that coaching can make a difference.

Let's just get behind the team, remember that the January window often lands you with lame ducks, trust that TDD August 2016 will not be repeated, and I am sure that we will see things pan out a lot better.

Joe Edwards
90 Posted 10/09/2016 at 16:11:14
In this age of "Instant gratification is a right", I still find it hard to believe some of the idiots on here who expected Koeman and Co to wave a magic wand and magic EFC into the top flight. The man warned everyone it would be two-year project and yet a whole host of you expected it done in one transfer window?

If Koeman is happy, I am happy, let's qualify for Europe and let the mercenaries queue up and be rejected by our club. We have dodged two potential Niasses in not signing Sissoko and Witsel so fuck them it's their loss not ours. Onwards and upwards! COYB

Dave Speed
91 Posted 10/09/2016 at 17:44:21
Steve (#91) – Exactly. I watched some of the players we 'missed out on' today and it was hard to see what all the fuss was about. Yes, one game in and all that but this site would have been rippling with venom at 4:55ish if we had overspent on some of these 'superstars' and they had not done the business. Moshiri, Kenwright and Walsh would be on their way to the gallows for wasting the 'war chest'. I expect the recent transfer window to be a blip because of all the money that was available; and future ones should be a bit more sensible.

We all get sucked in too easily by distractions such as did or didn't he send that text? Did he or didn't he speak to Everton? It doesn't matter and belittles us to harp on about it.

The reality is that the lack of interest shown in EFC by available players reflected our current status over the last few years. We are not the draw we used to be and it will take RK the 2 years he requires to get us somewhere near.

Truth or myth but illustrative anyway, is that when Robinho was told he was going to Manchester he assumed it was United. He had never heard of City. Now look at them. We have to emulate them.

Steve Jones
92 Posted 10/09/2016 at 17:55:37
'Rippling with venom'

Dave that could be one of the best, most descriptive, turns of phrase I've seen for some on this site. Nice one!.

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