Everton's new stadium a step closer?

Sunday 18 December 2016  35 Comments  [Jump to last]

The headline has caught the eye on this fluff piece in The Independent which focuses on former player and local boy Neil Robinson's reaction to the thought of losing Goodison Park for a new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

The story includes the throwaway claim that "Everton will announce plans for a new stadium in Liverpool's Bramley-Moore dock in the coming months, with building work on a new site expected to start before the end of 2017" but provides no additional enlightenment.

» Read the full article at The Independent


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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 18/12/2016 at 14:14:04
Neil Robinson arguing for a renovation of Goodison Park rather than a move. His arguments are all very moving and sentimental but it's no longer an option.

The Mersey Stadium will commence work late next year (2017). It should be finished by 2019 by my calculations.

Patrick Murphy
2 Posted 18/12/2016 at 15:13:55
Colin,

this piece in the Independent, about Neil Robinson's views on a move away from Goodison, opens with a pretty strong declaration:

Everton will announce plans for a new stadium in Liverpool's Bramley Moore dock in the coming months, but Robinson would be more than happy to see Goodison remain the home of the Toffees.

Mike Keating
3 Posted 18/12/2016 at 18:19:22
So the Independent seem to think that a dockside stadium will be announced shortly but don't say why they are so confident. Goodison Park local, Neil Robinson disagrees...
Terence Tyler
6 Posted 18/12/2016 at 23:38:06
Thanks Alan. I see its already being discussed on another thread. Never sure of the credibility of these reports.

Terence Tyler
7 Posted 18/12/2016 at 00:00:30
Is the cat out of the bag? I was hoping, expecting, the club to announce something in the New Year.
Danny Broderick
8 Posted 19/12/2016 at 00:03:18
It will be announced at the AGM.
Anthony Dwyer
9 Posted 19/12/2016 at 10:07:22
This has to happen to make Moshiri's plan come together.
Lenny Kingman
10 Posted 19/12/2016 at 11:43:15
If Everton have any aspirations to join the top table of English football, where they once ruled so proudly, this has to happen. No more balls ups and nostalgia overkill if you please. Reality and the 21st Century await Riverside.

The dock project will announce the rebirth of the historic club and will tell the world that Everton FC are a force to be reckoned with once more. The giant has been sleeping for too long.

Now is the time to rebuild the club from the ground up.

Kevin Tully
11 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:29:29
This thread certainly demonstrates the amount of 'stadium fatigue' us Blues are suffering from! A national newspaper stating the club is due to commence building our dream waterfront stadium and there have been just 8 comments.

You are a cynical mob – I don't know why?? For what it's worth, I think there is a chance it could happen, but until we witness the diggers moving into position, I don't think any of us will become too excited.

Gary Russell
12 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:35:41
Steady Kev, ya sounding like a cynic!
Stephen Brown
13 Posted 19/12/2016 at 14:54:00
Being an Evertonian teaches you an important life lesson – it pays to be a pessimist!
William Cartwright
14 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:33:30
Several messages here state the logic of a fresh start and rebuilding from the ground up as the best way forward. As an architect who has a lot of empathy for building refurbishment, it saddens me to say it, but, I do think a "new start" philosophy is the right way to go. This in spite of all the history wrapped up in Goodison Park.

Reasoning? Well I've been a supporter for well over 50 years and ever since the wonderful eighties, supporting Everton has been the most wonderfully frustrating experience. And I think a new stadium will be part of, if not the main catalyst for change. And change is overdue. What is it now... 1 derby win in 19 years? That's an utter disgrace.

I hope that the powers that be have sensed the need for change at this point in our history. There is the possibility that Koeman is just the man to bring about those changes. The new stadium has to be coupled with a new team ethos. Times have changed but the fantastic heart of the club has not.

As an example, consider should and will Ross stay with us? I would like to think so. He is a diamond. However, if he will not deliver with all the talent he possesses then Koeman may well take a hard line and move him on. Would we regret it? Most probably, because he really is a special talent, but he is in a sad way symptomatic of the introspective malaise that has gripped the club for years. Romantic to a fault and always falling at the final hurdle. Unburdened by the impatient nit-picking supporters his world class skill may begin to shine through...

I understand the mentality that goes with supporting a small club, and the frustration that goes with supporting a historically failed club (eg, the Sheffields), but Everton really are a unique case. We have so much history, passion and heart. I think its time we put that history in perspective and into its proper place. Respect the David France Collection and Everton In The Community, whilst simultaneously look to the future.

A new stadium, a new team structure and less looking emotively in the rear view mirror is what Moshiri is about. This approach will make him money and bring success hand in hand. Will we appreciate the lack of romance and soul of the process? Honestly... Not one bit. We could have a future after all and it might be blue. I really hope so.

COYB.

John Raftery
16 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:45:17
I am always sceptical when a newspaper says it 'understands'. The fact it is The Independent lends the story slightly more credibility than if the Wail or Express had carried the item.
Andrew Ellams
17 Posted 19/12/2016 at 15:51:48
Kev Tully, I think we can expect this to go through but to me there seems to be a general apathy to all things Everton right now.
Paul O'Neill
18 Posted 19/12/2016 at 17:51:58
The article is rubbish. It's massively inaccurate.

Goodison Park has changed little since 1894? First of all, it opened in 1892; second ,of all it was rebuilt on all 4 sides; third, it was an innovator in many areas of stadium design; and fourth, the Bullens Road was built in 1926 and reroofed in the '70s.

Yes, it's an old ground – but get at least some of your facts right, Indy!!

Colin Glassar
19 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:07:48
KT, this was amply discussed on another thread. This one's quite new.
Dennis Stevens
20 Posted 19/12/2016 at 18:45:48
Paul #18 - I didn't see any reference to 1894, but they do seem to think Latchford clinched his 30 goals versus Chelsea in 1977 rather than 1978!
David Barks
21 Posted 20/12/2016 at 04:07:36
Screw the stadium. We need a team that challenges and a new pitch in another location will do nothing for that. Spend the money on the damn product that matters.
Mark Hughes
22 Posted 21/12/2016 at 19:42:35
Needs to be 60,000 or we might as well redevelop Goodison.
Andy Meighan
23 Posted 22/12/2016 at 17:30:09
William (#14).

Ross Barkley – a diamond and a really special talent? Sorry but you're way off the mark with that comment.

He scores the odd great goal every now and then but that's about it. We've been waiting for years now for him to become this special player but it hasn't happened and isn't going to.

Basically the lad is brain-dead when it comes to spotting a pass and in his decision making The sooner he's moved on the better. Too many of us have indulged him but no more. His performance the other night was pitiful and downright embarrassing, culminating in that tackle on Henderson.

Sorry, Ross, but it's a No from me.

Sven Pillêt
25 Posted 24/12/2016 at 11:30:02
Lenny Kingman, my thoughts and feelings precisely. This is the beginning of something very big to last a very long time and the overhaul needs to be substantial – Moshiri knows that and so does Koeman in footballing terms which is why I'm not really focusing on this season's performances at all as they mean 'jack' against the backdrop of the bigger picture.

Those who are growing impatient just don't get it so to simplify stop and think about this:

1) No more financial constraints "it's monopoly money to me", were Moshiri's words.

2) Brand new stadium a certainty.

3) A top class coaching staff from Koeman and his team to Walsh and his. You won't find a more competent backroom set-up in Europe.

4) Ambition is back and that is made possible due to the other 3 points I've made!

Now this isn't an optimist speaking here, this is our reality. It's something we've been waiting for since the decline of the club in line with the birth of the Premier League back in '92. It gives me great hope and excitement for the future and I know this club is in good, healthy and prosperous hands – what on earth have we got to worry about? Nothing whatsoever.. NSNO!

Alan McGuffog
26 Posted 24/12/2016 at 11:45:03
This is Everton Football Club. There are two options:

One, an iconic stadium on the waterfront, announcing " we are back".

The other, an Lego build in the middle of nowhere announcing that we are the Coventry of the north.

As long as our glorious leader has his hands on the tiller we will always make the wrong decision. Our new motto...Cheap n' Nasty. Truly hope I'm wrong.

By the way ,a lot of folk have a downer on an oval-style stadium and opt for four standalone stands. Why is this? I would always prefer Celtic Park to Ibrox.

Patrick Murphy
27 Posted 28/12/2016 at 15:58:15
A tweet by EFC Related yesterday, proclaims a starting date of July 2017 for a stadium on the Bramley Dock – no details of why they decided to post that tweet so it's either very accurate or wishful thinking.

July

Ricardo Gimpardsle
28 Posted 28/12/2016 at 16:03:04
Patrick, you seem to be good at unearthing information. Ever thought about a job at EFC?
Patrick Murphy
29 Posted 28/12/2016 at 16:06:09
Ricardo #28

That would be brilliant but I don't think that they would pay me for doing such a job – thanks for the compliment.

Colin Hughes
30 Posted 28/12/2016 at 16:11:44
Won't happen; some irate Kopites will find a reason to put the blocks on it. As I read on one of their bitter forums some time ago, "Do they really think scousers will let them build a better stadium than ours on the waterfront?" – as if to imply our support is all Welsh and scousers only follow them.

Not holding my breath myself as there have been too many false dawns and too much sentiment at our club for years now.

Dennis Stevens
31 Posted 28/12/2016 at 16:44:10
Alan #26 - I think it's simply that a football pitch is rectangular & so four stands, close to the pitch with a fairly steep rake adds substantially to the atmosphere - especially if you also have safe standing areas. If you wish to, you can always then fill in the corners. I would always prefer Highbury to whatever they call that bowl they use now.
Ray Roche
32 Posted 28/12/2016 at 17:02:18
Colin, you could have suggested that they'd have been better off building their stadium in Aberdeen. It's closer to Oslo.
Tony Abrahams
33 Posted 28/12/2016 at 17:22:30
I see they were singing a merry Xmas song to Everton, yesterday Ray, but like most toffees, I'm just waiting for confirmation of this absolutely massive new stadium, and then we can wish each and everyone of them "A Happy New Year"

Everything is speculation, but Everton, really will be on their way back, once the ball gets rolling on Bramley-Moore Dock. COYFB!

Ray Roche
34 Posted 28/12/2016 at 17:30:03
Tony, you could only hear it when the winds were blowing from off the Norwegian coast and across the North Sea, with that pleasant sing-song accent our neighbours have...

Seal shaggers.

Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 28/12/2016 at 18:02:09
No seals in the "Royal Blue Mersey", Ray!
Patrick Murphy
36 Posted 29/12/2016 at 10:41:50
Peel Holdings owners of the site, have said to watch this space regarding a possible move by Everton to the Bramley Dock, here's the link to the article in the Echo for others to peruse.

Watch this space

Gordon Crawford
37 Posted 29/12/2016 at 11:25:37
Yeah it seems like they want Everton to build their stadium at the docks. Sounds very positive. :) I'm getting a little bit excited for January 4th meeting. :)
Brian Wilkinson
38 Posted 31/12/2016 at 06:17:20
Tony@33 they are shitting themselves of us getting the docks, it's the only place the Vikings can dock at the moment with their long ships.

Imagine the rent we could charge them, but fear not, as soon as we get the nod, you can guarantee our Viking friends will put in a protest of some kind.

Alan J Thompson
39 Posted 04/01/2017 at 04:31:56
Just hope they double the gate receipts by putting a few good bars in with speedy and decent service. Off the bus into the ground, a few ales then on to the terraces.

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