Reports claim Belfodil deal agreed

Wednesday 11 January 2017  210 Comments  [Jump to last]
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Everton appear to be close to making another signing this week, with reports in England and on the Continent claiming a deal for Ishask Belfodil is done.

The Guardian have followed DH journalist David de Myttenaere in claiming that an offer of €12m (£10.4m) has been accepted by Standard Liege for the 24-year-old Algerian who is to sign a three-year contract.

Belfodil is, according to the Guardian report, expected to travel to Merseyside to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical.

DH.be first carried a report last Friday that a bid for the Standard Liege player was imminent and that was followed by a similar claim by MailOnline and Sky Sports' suggestion yesterday from their sources that the Blues had indeed offered £8.5m for him.

DH journalist David de Myttenaere tweeted earlier today that Everton are on the verge of wrapping up the transfer after agreeing an increased fee with the Belgian club, although RTL Sport (an outlet with a chequered history of reliability, it seems) claim that the price could be significantly lower — about €8m lower — than what is being generally reported.

The 24-year-old, who is still at his current club's training camp in Spain today while the BBC Sport say negotiations over his transfer continue, has attracted attention by scoring six times in 16 league games for Liege and three goals in five Europa League appearances.

Previously, he was with Lyon, Bologna, Livorno, Inter Milan and Parma while he spent a year in Abu Dabi with Baniyas before moving to Belgium on a free transfer.

Update Contrary to claims by Het Laatste Nieuws in Belgium, Belfodil did not fly in on Thursday to undergo a medical and negotiate terms, remaining instead in Spain with Liege for their friendly against Dortmund.  


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Dave Pritchard
1 Posted 11/01/2017 at 15:52:25
Much travelled already at 24. If it happens it will likely be the first Walsh-inspired signing as Schneiderlin is hardly an unknown and not a Walsh recruit. Let's hope Belfodil can enhance Walsh's reputation if he comes here.
Will Mabon
2 Posted 11/01/2017 at 15:54:30
Can't say I know anything about the guy yet. Bit of a mixed background for a 24-year-old before moving to Liege, though... on a free. Perhaps a late/sudden bloomer, and a purchase in the "Punt" category at this price.
Will Mabon
3 Posted 11/01/2017 at 15:54:59
Dave - snap!
Nathan Ford
4 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:04:36
Don't like to knock anyone before they play for the club and given a chance but his lack of goals in weaker leagues does not fill me with hope. Hope I'm proved wrong with this.
Antony Matthews
6 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:09:02
I scream if he comes to Everton. Well he does like to wear the number 99 shirt.
Andrew Ellams
8 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:25:18
Why is he not in the Algeria squad for AFCON?
Andrew Presly
9 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:34:09
The obvious but hopefully incorrect answer to that is that he's probably crap, Andrew.

If he's someone who'll hold the ball up, be a presence in the box and can get say 10 a season this is a good addition. Worth rolling the dice at this price.

Brian Williams
10 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:34:45
Wonder, if it's true, if he's backup for Rom or to play with him in a two up front formation.
Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:36:28

I found some video... he certainly knows what to do with a free kick -- this one was from 26 meters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtZRH7zg5yY

Does well to get on the end of a cross with a header here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZ8nmDJ-98

...and another one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0bne1JaZhk

He's also Liege's penalty-taker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6TbtOGsHnc

No shame not to break through at Inter or Bologna, but one goal in 23 at Parma is a pretty ugly statistic. As Will says, however, perhaps a late bloomer... scored for fun at Baniyas and Standard.

Tony Hill
12 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:42:12
We've just got to trust the scouts, if this is true. He looks like he has a bit of ground skill too, but none of us has a clue of course (unless we have someone on here who's seen him play a few times).

I know prices are inflated but this is not a price to pay for a second string option I wouldn't have thought.

Brian Furey
13 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:49:04
That's what I wondered too, Andrew @8, but it looks like he's been left out of their squad.

I did a little bit of online digging on this lad and to be honest I don't know what to make of him. He's a big huge lad at nearly 6'-4'' and they say he's good at dribbling but from the small piece I saw on YouTube he doesn't exactly get me too excited. You would imagine he will be backup to Rom as opposed to playing alongside him but who knows.

He struggled to get games and goals in Italy with Inter, Parma and Livorno before moving to the UAE where he scored 11 goals in 23 games. Looks like he's doing okay with Standard Liege with 7 goals. I'd imagine Koeman looks at his height and thinks we can win more long balls with him.

Chris Gould
14 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:50:16
He was in the provisional AFCON squad of 31 but didn't make the final 23.

Probably not a potential superstar but I'm happy to trust Walsh. I'm assuming he's watched a lot of the lad and perhaps feels he's about to kick on? Let's hope so. This one was certainly under the radar and seems to be getting wrapped up pretty quickly.

This would take our January spending to approx £40 million! I'm starting to get a little excited.

Gavin Johnson
15 Posted 11/01/2017 at 16:56:18
Not an exciting signing. I would have preferred Barahino for similar money.

I go with the consensus. I'll trust Walsh's call, but his stats in some relatively lower leagues aren't encouraging. Fingers crossed he's a late bloomer.

Nathan Ford
16 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:02:00
Makes me think of Mickael Madar for some reason.
Iain Love
17 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:09:06
Walsh's strength is his ability to unearth hidden gems. Gana I believe was one of his. If this lad is another one fantastic, if he's just better than Niasse or Kone we're still in a better position than we were.
Raymond Fox
18 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:10:48
The information we have about him is not that encouraging.

We don't need any more average players we have enough already, thank you very much.

John Daley
19 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:12:43
For those wondering, he has played primarily as a second striker behind the main frontman this season. 4 assists and 9 goals in 21 games and Juventus, Chelsea and Arsenal all rumoured to have been scouting him. 

He was always quite highly rated when younger as well, hence Inter taking him at such an early stage of his career. 

I also wouldn't read too much into him moving around a fair bit or being available on a free twice in recent years, nor worry it's a neon warning sign of probable 'shiteness'.

Immediately prior to his first move on a 'free', Parma were financially in the shit, had been unable to pay wages to their players for most of the season and had just suffered relegation to the second division. Belfodil, as one of their highest earners, struck a deal which saw his contract (which would have run until 2018) torn up in return for him waiving any claim to wages earned but not paid. 

When he signed for Bani Yas and moved to Abu Dhabi, he (or his agent) was astute enough to secure a 2 year contract that gave the player the right to terminate after a year if he so wished: 

Since the first moment I decided to play in the Gulf, I was convinced I would not stay forever. I signed a contract for two seasons and the club gives me the freedom to terminate the contract. I want to go back to Europe and play for a club in a major league, and for that I am ready to make great sacrifices.

Faced with losing one of their star players (who had scored 14 in 29), Bani Yas tried to stand firm, with their vice chairman publicly announcing they would force him to honour the full two years, but it was always a forlorn, posturing stance on their part. 

Paul Tran
20 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:13:49
All transfers are a gamble. Walsh has been brought in to uncover cheaper gems. He'll get some right, some wrong. At Looks like business is being done early. Let's hope it's good business and judge him on what he does.
Mark Melton
22 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:16:05
Yesterday – "Schneiderlin is hardly a hidden gem. What's Walsh up to?" Today – " Never heard of him. He must be shite"
Liam Reilly
23 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:16:12
Went on a free to Belgium. That's not very encouraging; like who goes to Belgium!
Chris Watts
24 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:17:43
Hmmm... not sure what to make of this. Don't know anything about this lad but none of the big clubs seem to be sniffing around.

Either it's a Walsh gem or he's signed as back up.

One point. I really don't see the point in buying 'back up' players as reported if that's what Koeman sees him as. Buying 2 absolute crackers for the first 11 would seem much better including someone who triggers our return to the big time.

Anyway, I guess only time will tell...

Chris Williams
25 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:19:14
Mark

Spot on. People love a good moan on here. Personally if this happens I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Charlie Lloyd
26 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:20:25
I'm not claiming this guy will be a world beater but it's been mentioned about his record, especially, Parma 1 in 23, which is poor.

Remember Lucas Perez who we chased till he went to Arsenal. Until arriving at Deportivo La Coruna on a permanent deal (on loan 6 in 21) he hadn't done much till he was about 25.

Some players are like that they develop later. I have my reservations about the deal but think he should be given a fair chance if signed. Surely the scout who's watched him and Walsh won't bestow us with a dud like the previous recruitment gurus did with Niasse.

I would like to see a championship player step up but when Hogan of Brentford is quoted at £15m that looks more of a risk.

Gary Hart
27 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:21:08
Let's hope he's better than the last striker we signed whose surname started with the same four letters!

It seems a lot of money for a player who can't get in the Algerian squad.

Tony Twist
28 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:21:16
Very strange choice, makes Niasse's YouTube look good. He looks slow, attacks seem to slow down when he gets the ball. Which scout ran the rule over him! Maybe he is the new Pelle.
Benny Snow
29 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:21:17
A Big lad who can head the ball and only costs £10 mill? Get him in!
John Pierce
30 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:23:41
Based on the little I've seen of him, looks like we've just bought Lukaku's first touch.

Obviously the one concern is physicality, playing in a league were this is a necessity. He's not played anywhere that tests this particular facet.

But Ross better pull his finger out. As the transfers take shape, it feels like there is less room to squeeze him in. One hopes competition for his place, something hes never had, could be the making of the lad?

Roger Helm
31 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:23:54
Might be another Stracq!
Soren Moyer
32 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:26:11
Why aren't we going for Berahino? Has Premier League experience and is a proven goal scorer. Costs slightly less than this lad too!
Soren Moyer
33 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:29:30
On the other hand, anyone is better than Niasse.
Chris Gould
34 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:30:40
Raymond at 18, pointless doom and gloom!!

John at 19, thank you for some real information. Sounds positive.

John Pierce
35 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:31:55
You'd think with all the constant, and I'd say, vocal majority on TW destroying the current squad that new players would be welcomed?

We, the dichotomy that is Everton fans, is there for all to see. Whatever the quality of the current squad, most have one thing in common: they are stale, been here ages.

At least changing those players, good or bad, will or should inject life into the side. Swing the dressing room away from a culture which needs changing?

He could be a dud, this lad, but we know for sure some at Everton already are, so there's room for a 'maybe'... right?


Dan Nulty
36 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:32:26
It amazes how people can moan we aren't spending and then moan when we do because they have never heard of this lad or lookman. Don't think koeman won't have run the rule of him. Payet was hardly a name tripping off peoples lips at 29 was he?

Give them a chance, koeman and Walsh have a good track record. Moshiri is putting his money where his mouth is with the interest free loan and the training ground sponsor with shirt sponsor to be announced. It can't happen overnight, we can't go out and buy James at Madrid. It will take time.

Dan Nulty
37 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:33:32
Soren, Berahino is also a proven idiot.
Eddie Dunn
38 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:34:11
Mark Melton, exactly my thoughts. I'm just glad something is happening!
Robin Cannon
39 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:38:10
@Charlie (26)

Good points. Stats aren't the be all and end all. Depends on when a player matures, the system they're played in, how they "fit" with a team.

Hell, Alan Shearer had a 1 goal in 5 record for Southampton, over more than 100 games, when Blackburn signed him. On that basis, we'd have been saying "he looks shit".

Bill Gienapp
40 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:39:25
I'll echo what Mark (22) said. In regards to Schniederlin, a lot of people were offering snark along the lines of "Anyone can just throw money at established Premier League talent. What are we paying Steve Walsh for anyway?"

Now we bring in a player under the radar, without an obvious pedigree, and the default reaction is "Oh, well I haven't heard of him. Must be crap."

Kim Vivian
41 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:44:02
Dan - beat me to it - I was going to say total knob.
Kenny Smith
42 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:44:47
Hope I'm wrong but this seems a bit left-field to say the least. Aren't Charlton owned by the same fella who owns Standard Liege???

Hope the Lookman deal didn't involve us taking this fella who they got on a free last year.
Anthony Davies
43 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:45:01
I'm excited to see this lad play. Contrary to what I've read from some on TW, this lad is very quick, very good in the air, hard working, a team player.

Walsh and the scouts think so to; he's 25 tomorrow, 6ft-3in... Be happy, Evertonians.

John G Davies
44 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:45:37
What was the name of the Algerian Walsh scouted for Leicester?

Mahrez?

Only £300,000? He must be shite.

Kevin Day
47 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:47:22
All this transfer activity .

I need to go and lay down.

Raymond Fox
48 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:49:57
Chris (#34), it might be pointless to you, but we are passing opinions are we not.

The information we were given hardly sets the pulse racing; now if it excites you, all well and good.

Dave Lynch
50 Posted 11/01/2017 at 17:55:45
Here we go... Doom mongers out in force already; give the lad a chance and lets see what he can do.

I seem to remember a lot of the naysayers on this thread also questioned the sanity of the Gueye signing.

Get a fucking grip and let's see how he does shall we.

Chris Watts
52 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:01:28
Haha, it does seem Walsh can't win either way. I think we're so fed up with 15 years of transfers people are suspicious. I still wonder why the big clubs aren't sniffing round this guy.

The point is, if Koeman thinks he will noticeably improve the first 11, then fine – it's the comment about being backup I don't like. We don't need anymore backup.

Anthony Davies
53 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:04:38
Give the lad a chance.
Chris Williams
54 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:05:13
Some reports are now claiming that the true fee is only €4m.

So he must be really shite then!

Gerard Carey
55 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:07:04
Maybe he's the new Vardy!!
Sam Hoare
56 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:08:49
3 signings in less than 2 weeks! All over £10m! Exciting stuff.

Look forward to seeing what this guy has to offer. My only quibble is if we've (hopefully) been scouting him for a while then why not get him on a free in the Summer? Hopefully we're not buying him based just on 6 months form. That way Niasse madness lies.

Kevin Tully
57 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:09:00
I hope someone's been busy putting new lockers in the changies...
Lee Courtliff
58 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:10:16
It doesn't sound very convincing... but I remember talking to my Dad about Arteta and how he struggled with the physicality of the Scottish league. "What bloody use is he gonna be then" or words to the effect of!

Mikel turned out to be a fantastic signing so hopefully this lad will surprise us all. I think Cahill was a similar age when we signed him and he'd not really done much in his career at that point either.

£10M isn't a great amount these days so let's just wait and see.

Jason Bowen
59 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:10:21
I'd rather have Berahino myself, proven Premier League goalscorer.
Gavin Johnson
60 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:12:16
Just seen that, Chris. Seems a lot better deal to me. Looking at his chequered career it seems a decent punt. Didn't Mahrez cost Leicester £500k?! That deal turned out okay.

We just need to offload Cleverley now. If we've got bodies leaving this window I'd still like us to grab a creative central midfielder too. Bid £30m for Sigurdsson, Walsh.

Conor Skelly
61 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:12:18
Moneyball signing. Interesting if nothing else.
Nathan Jones
62 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:13:15
Let's be honest, none of know if this lad's any good. The reality is that Lukaku will remain our main striker as we unlikely to revert to a 4-4-2. So to improve our squad all he has to do is be better than Niasse.

That said, on another thread Niasse has apparently turned into Georgey Weah and not the awful footballer I saw.

Sam Hoare
63 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:16:20
Worth noting that, at around 24 years old, Graziano Pelle managed only 1 goal in 12 or so games for Parma.

Imagine Koeman sees something similar in this player. Hope he has similar impact in the Premier League.

Gavin Johnson
64 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:30:08
Good point there, Sam. Yes, Pelle wasn't prolific in Italy. If Belfodil turns out to be as good as Pelle, we've got ourselves a good deal.
John Graham
65 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:30:43
Not at all impressed. Looks like a big lumbering lump. Why pay £10M for a player they got for free just because he scores a few goals in his first 14 games for them???

Not many teams wanted him at the beginning of 2016 so they took a chance on a free, maybe he suits their league and from what I've seen some very poor marking, but surely there must be other better and younger prospects for £10M.
Keith Harrison
67 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:37:13
Nathan Jones (#62), you've been gone too long!

Look forward to seeing another Walsh bargain pull up trees.

Mike Berry
69 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:41:08
I am guessing that Walsh may have flagged up this lad's potential when looking initially at Mahrez, and was one for the notebook. As I said, I am just guessing but no doubt all will be revealed if he does sign.

It looks as though he has the physicality, and that the Premier League may be more suiting his style more than the type of football played in his previous leagues.

Duncan McDine
70 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:43:45
Big tall player from Standard Liege with Algerian & Belgium connections... Remind you of anyone?... Just needs the Afro wig!

I'll keep my opinions under lock and key before I see him play a few games. That's if the rumour is true of course.

Paul Thompson
71 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:48:47
Interesting piece from Italy-based journalist here. It's a couple of years old, but still informative. Looking forward to seeing what he can do.

Link

Bill Gall
72 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:50:08
Has to be better than Niasse, otherwise Keoman would never have anything to do with him.
Colin Glassar
73 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:54:28
TW logic = never heard of him, never seen him play so he must be shite!

Where's our resident Benelux expert, Eric Dol?

Hugh A Ross
74 Posted 11/01/2017 at 18:56:18
It would appear that we are complaining about spending to much money, lets not forget our last few seasons where our spend was Zingari League level, certainly not Premier League level.

Let's go out and beat Man City. COYB

James Morgan
76 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:07:16
As usual, people on here moaning about the lad before he's even arrived. Whether he costs £5m or £50m, let's just give him a chance.

Some players come here and struggle and drift in to obscurity, others thrive and make the step up quite comfortably. We've seen big money players come to the Premier League such as Shevchenko, Falcao, Crespo etc and do zip, yet we've seen bargains like Mahrez and Coleman come over and take like a duck to water.

Proof is in the pudding, fellows Blues!

Andrew Ellams
77 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:07:54
Fellaini is of Moroccan descent, Duncan.
Kunal Desai
78 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:08:42
Hopefully this is Kone's replacement. We still need another class forward to replace Niasse.
Frank Wade
79 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:12:44
John 19, many thanks for your research. Looks like you may be stepping into the shoes of the legend that was Harold Matthews, who had a great knowledge of players in various leagues abroad.

I must admit to having no knowledge of this player until now. Worth mentioning that Standard Liege are 12th in the Belgian League and are not the force they once were. They are owned by Duchatelet who also took over Charlton Athletic with similar downward trend in their fortunes. Possible connection in the Lookman and Belfodil signings?

My view is that we have Steve Walsh scouting these new signings. He has far more experience than any of us, so let's just see how this chap goes. All signings are a risk. In Steve we trust!

Alan Bodell
80 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:14:20
When Calvert-Lewin gets fit again in a month or two, we'll have plenty of darts to throw striking wise to end the season with, so let's hope at least one of them sticks.

We just have to trust those with their asses on the line doing these deals because time waits for no man in this league and apparently we have enough money not to just speculate.

Tony Cheek
81 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:14:38
Looks strong, quite good technique and very perceptive pace. What I've seen on YouTube he reminds me of Pele... oops – should be Pelle!
Mike Mulhall
82 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:28:38
I think it can only be a good thing. At least there is a buzz about us signing players. Transfer windows aren't or don't currently appear an anti-climax.

Tony Abrahams
83 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:29:53
Enjoyed reading that link Paul@71, let's hope we have signed a "good-un". A kid with talent, who has been around the block, and might just be ready to take-off?
Frank Wade
84 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:31:18
Tony (#81), what is very perceptive pace? I was often described as having deceptive pace myself, i.e. slower than I looked.
Tony Cheek
85 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:34:59
Probably should read 'deceptive', Frank.... I've been in Norway too long!
Frank Wade
86 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:36:07
Okay, Tony, hopefully deceptively quick, as opposed to my own classification.
Brian Williams
87 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:38:57
"Feeling frustrated at a lack of transfer activity, worried your team will be left behind?"

Take "Belfodil" – guaranteed to ease your stress. Please follow the dosage, read the instructions carefully, and report any side effects to your GP.

Tom Hadley
88 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:43:24
We can only judge the merits of Belfodil in our team IF he signs and if he then gets a 1st team opportunity. TBH I'm less interested in the player (chances are he's neither total rubbish nor a world beater) and more interested in the longer-term strategy. This is our first real example of Steve Walsh's methods at work (Gana having been more of a known quantity).

At the very least we've identified a clear target and got it close to completion without it being bandied around the papers for months. That should be welcomed by us all! I agree Belfodil's goal stats don't seem to suggest he's a £10M striker, but if he does prove a useful squad member then we should be very glad that Steve Walsh looks beyond the obvious and makes the right judgements (just as he did with Riyad Mahrez).

If Walsh proves with this signing that he still has that ability then we can look forward to a bright future of canny player recruitment, wise use of Moshiri's cash and Walsh's signing will indeed turn out to have been the truly important one!

Duncan McDine
89 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:46:01
Andrew (#77) – Bloody killjoy! I was enjoying my little moment of déjà vu there until you spoiled it with your "facts"!
Will Mabon
90 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:47:02
"Makes me think of Mickael Madar for some reason."

Shut up!

"Might be another Stracq!"

You too!

Brian Williams
91 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:50:03
"New Belfodil now available in capsule form."
Joe Digney
92 Posted 11/01/2017 at 19:55:06
The lad deserves a chance, IF Walsh has been scouting him then I have full trust in his judgement. Would still like a creative midfielder and another striker because kone is well and truly finished... or is that just being greedy?
Frank Wade
93 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:02:38
Correction to what I posted in 79 above. Duchatelet sold his stake in Standard Liege in 2015.
Mike Berry
94 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:03:43
Another Stracq. This one is to keep though. Hope he has his workrate...
Dave Williams
95 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:05:27
Whilst I respect everyone's right to an opinion, it baffles me that there are so many people who think that they know enough about an Algerian player who is based in Belgium to say that he will be a bad buy.

I have never heard of him but that is why we engaged Steve Walsh. He is paid pretty wel,l I would guess, to know more about footballers than any of us and I am trusting him to know that this guy can do a decent job for us as either a support or back up striker – not the main man as we would have to pay a hell of a lot more for that player but someone to help Lukaku or replace him for certain games or parts of games.

If Walsh is wrong then so be it but the price is right, the players age is right and he seems big enough to cope with the physical stuff. I'm happy to give him a chance if he does sign – and I'm happy also that we will have acquired three players within the first two weeks. I'm happy all round really!

John Graham
96 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:08:28
Good link, Paul (#71).

Seems he has been rated at times in his early years but maybe just not given enough opportunities to build up his confidence.

Let's hope we all grow to love him for his efforts and contributions to the team whether they are assist, goals or just giving some centre-backs a hard time.

COYB

Tony Draper
97 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:09:12
Evertonians' definition of quality:

Under £10M = Shite
Over £20M = Overpriced Shite
£14M = Oumar Niasse (therefore, shite)
Under 25yrs = Raw Talent, probably shite
25 years + 1 day = OAP, Shite
Eager to join Everton = Shite
Willing to join Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City etc = Money Grabbing Shithouse
Playing in:
Russia, Greece, Belgium, Holland , France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Scotland... Anywhere = Shite!

Brian Williams
98 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:11:53
Lorra lorra shite there, Tony. :-)
Phil Martin
99 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:21:33
You have to trust Walsh. The man who picked up Mahrez and Vardy from relative obscurity.
Tony Draper
100 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:24:55
True Bri, very very true.

But this is TW, and we are "The Custodians of Shitefulness".

Because our beloved "Bullshit Billy by the radio", has turned us into "The Museum of Premier Shite".

Ed Wallis
101 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:27:52
Brian (#91) nice one, lol.

The saying, "You can't please all the people happy all the time"... Christ, how true!!! We look to sign an unknown, he is shite/waste of money... it's another Niasse... "What's Walsh doing?" Or we sign a Man Utd player and it's "Wot the fuck is Steve Walsh doing? I could've spotted that player"!!!

We have short memories. We yearned to invest in players, do a Leicester – not getting freebies and loans. Let's support tthe team and enjoyt the journey. After all, I would never enjoy giving money to moaning bastards if I was Moshiri. In Koeman I trust. COYBs

Jim Bailey
104 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:43:59
My realistic view is that, having been paupers for many years, we are at least as a club starting to make headway. There seems to me to be too many whose main concern is to ridicule and berate "fellow supporters" with their particular "I know better than you" posts and opinions.

Either stand four square or go away.
Scott Hall
106 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:48:41
What the hell are people being negative for?!? Watch this clip:

https://youtu.be/50ogR-akGSg

I know You Tube can make anyone look good but at this stage it's all we've got to go off and to me he looks bloody strong, determined, gets on the end of crosses, and a finisher.

In short, exactly what we fucking need!

Oh and Berahino? You mean the tit who thinks he's too good for his club and thinks it's all about him? Yeah we are desperate for that...

Anthony Davies
107 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:48:43
I think he will turn out to be decent. Years ago we had Sharpy from Dumbarton, an injury-prone striker from Wolves. They turned out not to bad, hey.

Put it this way – he is an upgrade on Jelavic and Chris Long. He can run down the wing and beat a man, no problem, works his socks off for the team, very good in the air.

I think Lukaku will be happy, he is good at holding the ball up, doesn't lose it like Rom. Very good signing, promise.
Jay Wood
108 Posted 11/01/2017 at 20:49:38
Good link and article by Paul @ 71 on the lad.

Written in July 2013, I'm trusting he has matured a bit since then, or else ... Caveat emptor, 'buyer beware' as the Italians like to say.

Some extracts.

Having scored, assisted a goal and got sent off in a game, in the next match his team won a penalty (stop me if this sounds familiar...).

"Nicola Sansone had gone down in the area and won a penalty for Parma. Belfodil's teammate Marco Marchionni picked up the ball and walked towards the spot when he was confronted by Belfodil who petulantly demanded that he take it. ‘You better not miss, then,' Marchionni probably thought. Except Belfodil did. Albano Bizzarri saved it but couldn't hold onto the ball. Fortunately for Belfodil it fell to him and he made amends, blasting it into the net only to then shush and insult his bench.

"After the match, Parma coach Roberto Donadoni warned him that if he wasn't careful fans would associate him with action like that first and his goals second. “Zinedine Zidane had a great career,” he said, “but people only remember the headbutt he gave Materazzi in the World Cup final.”

"Belfodil to his credit apologised and quickly put it behind him. It was the start of a hot streak through the winter months. That's when he really stoked things up, scoring five goals in eight games. Juventus wanted him. Napoli did too. At the time, though, nothing came of their interest and when the transfer window closed in the spring, Belfodil was still a Parma player.

"He was disappointed. Some claimed he sulked. There were other tantrums.

"During Parma's 3-0 defeat at home to Udinese in April, Belfodil got embroiled in a row with his captain Alessandro Lucarelli. “I didn't like his attitude in a particular game situation,” Lucarelli said. “Ishak has to understand that it takes humility to reach a certain level. The advice that I give and not just to him is to put yourself at the service of your teammates and improve. Follow positive examples and you'll go far.” Donadoni also suggested he should make more effort to get on with his teammates."

Now these incidents occurred when he was 20-21, so hopefully he has matured since then. Some good stuff in the article about his build, style of play and potential. Likened to Benzema (which Belfodil himself rejects), the player's preferred model is no less than 'Il Fenomeno' – the great Brazilian Ronaldo.

I wish!!!

Jamie Sweet
110 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:11:21
I'm thinking that he would be used as the bulldozer to clear the path for Lukaku.

It would certainly be an interesting acquisition with a particular tactic / style of football in mind.

I haven't seen anything from him that really gets the pulse racing, but if he can help bind the team together and rattle a few centre halves along the way, then I can see a modern day Denis Stracqualursi in the making!

Tim Rydings
111 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:12:33
Tony, (97) excellent & hilarious!! Sums up TW, funniest comment in ages!
Michael Farrelly
112 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:16:33
I hope I'm wrong about this guy, viewed him on YouTube and not impressed. He can't get in the Algerian squad for AFCON... oh dear!

This could be a defining signing in terms of Walsh's value to the club.

Alan Humphreys
113 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:23:09
Berahino is Premier League quality? Doesn't command a starting place at WBA and 23 goals in 105 games hardly sets hearts racing.

Hopefully this lad does better and consigns Kone to a swift departure like Niasse.

And let's get Galloway back from WBA whilst we're at it. Be like a new signing...

Don Alexander
114 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:26:29
Walshy's ode (with apologies to WW);

I wandered lonely as a scout
That floats on high o'er Bill and deals
When all at once I saw, and tout,
A gem, a golden Bel-fo-dil;
Bill, sort the contract and the fees
Cos this big bugger could be the knees!

Well here's hoping anyway.

Anthony Davies
115 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:32:46
Too many moaners on here, I think he will do well.

People say Rom is lazy but scores. Well this lad works his socks off and he will chip in with 10, 15 goals a season and assists. An upgrade on Shane Long (not Chris as I said in earlier post).
Mike Gaynes
116 Posted 11/01/2017 at 21:34:25
Scott Hall (#106), easy mate... that's a five-year-old video. Hell, I was still scoring goals in 2012, when I was only 55. I looked strong and determined too.

A little caution is okay...

Iain Johnston
117 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:43:33
The reason he didn't make the Algeria squad is because he was originally registered as French and the authorities dragged their feet with paperwork.

He did join up with the squad only to be told he was ineligible.

None of us had really heard of Radzinski prior to his showing in a European game against Man Utd and at the time £4.5m felt a bit steep also Fellaini cost £15m on the strength of his performances in two games and again not many of us knew of him.

Jury is out for me on this one, mind you I fancy us having a go for Depay so...?

James Flynn
118 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:47:19
Scott (106) - Thank for the link.

YouTube or not, slap an Afro wig on him and those headed goals were Fellaini ones. Looks good with both feet, too. Again, like Fella (who we've never replaced).

Boy, I'd love to see him and Lukaku paired up top. Let the other team's manager have to worry for a change, instead of simply wrapping a cocoon of defenders around Rom for 90 minutes.

Nothing on the clip showing if he knows how to defend from the front, though. With that, I'm choosing to be excited that we get him in.


David Pearl
119 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:48:47
Very good, Don!

I'm sure Walsh isn't going to be perfect, that's impossible.

This signing and the whispers we are looking to sign another centre-back seem to indicate a 3-4-1-2 system. I hope so. Never been a fan of 1 up front.

Denis Richardson
120 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:53:34
Have no idea about this guy, his track record isn't great and being at so many clubs in such a short time also doesn't exactly bode well. At 24 (actually turning 25 tomorrow!) he's hardly 'one for the future', he should be coming into his prime.

Have to take a leap of faith in Walsh et al. Fingers crossed this isn't a slightly cheaper Niasse, Mk II.

Jason Broome
121 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:55:11
Has Walsh got a mistress or property in Algeria? Find a new well man!

Positives... He's tall. Could be a good target man!?

Concerns...
1. Showed petulance and insisted on taking a penalty from his own player and shushing his own team mates after he scored screams attitude problems.

2. Being passed around like my ex and seeing more of the planet than ET at age 24 does not sit well.

3. Having promise and failing every time could amount to laziness and not being able to apply oneself... a la my school years.

4. Shit goalscoring return... 23 in 105!

5. Tired of hearing Walsh and Mahrez in the same sentence... He did sign others who have failed.

6. £10.5 Million is not a bargain unless he scores a lot or contributes tirelessly to the cause.

7. and finally I was more upbeat with Niasse's arrival!!!

He might turn out to be bloody brilliant, but we on ToffeeWeb have the right to voice our concerns.

Terry Maddock
122 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:55:55
It's great news that we are finally bringing players in, but a huge statement of intent for "The Project" would be a bid for Van Dijk. He looks better every time I see him, he even has goals in him... Pay what's needed if he will come.
Nigel Munford
124 Posted 11/01/2017 at 22:58:43
Love your optimism, Jason.
Laurie Hartley
125 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:02:35
Things are looking up (again).

I have been daydreaming about us playing 4-4-2 with two big strikers – one 6'-3" who can hold the ball up and head it and the other 6'-4" who can run with it and finish.

I wouldn't like to be in a defence up against that combination.

Just need the "enforcer" from Atlanta now and we will be back in business.

Up the Blues!

Bill Gall
126 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:03:08
Well, if he does sign, that will be 8 players signed with Koeman in charge, so soon we will not be saying it is not Koeman's team.
Brian Williams
127 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:07:28
Hearing rumblings that there's no deal in place at all so all this "He's shit we don't want him" talk may well be for nowt.

Be interesting to see what those same people say if there is in fact no deal and he doesn't come to us.

Jim Hardin
128 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:07:58
So the signings are coming. Good luck to them.

Now go get Pulisic, Dembele, or even Mor from Dortmund, all of whom play multiple attacking positions. Pulisic looks to be the most creative at setting up opportunities though. Also look at Durm (left back), and the GK Bonmann. Any of these will address needs Everton has. They won't be cheap but we just spent £22 million for a player who wouldn't make the bench on that team.

Yes, I know Reus, Schurrle, Weigl, Gotze, Kagawa, and Aubameyang are there also but I was trying to keep some semblance of reality to my wish list.

Denis Richardson
129 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:08:52
Where do you get these 'rumblings' from Brian?

(I am happy for the guy to sign... although his track record does raise a few concerns.)

Brian Williams
130 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:11:08
Just a couple of people who are usually on the ball saying there's been contact but nothing definite.
Jason Broome
131 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:13:38
We might end the season with 10 new players, Bill. If Koeman keeps this up, we might finally sign Riquelme!

Brian Williams
132 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:14:37
Have to say I think Schneiderlin might be our marquee signing for this window with any further ones being somewhat cheaper. Hope I'm wrong like.
Brian Murphy
133 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:41:25
Been off of here for a bit but is just me or are we 1) going down the Moneyball route with some of these signings and 2) Koeman seems to be filling the team with big athletic fuckers (in the main that is).

Surely we need a playmaker to knit front to back together more effectively, why do we never seem to be in for a Coutinho, Firmino, Silva type. I got so excited when we were allegedly in for Mata in the summer.

Ernie Baywood
134 Posted 11/01/2017 at 23:43:46
Not going to judge him on his cost but on the face it seems a strange choice. Ron wants to play a pressing game and high tempo but signs a 6'-4" forward?

I get we need backup to Rom, but this would indicate a low cost like for like backup? So is the way we're currently playing the way we're supposed to be playing?

Best of luck to him. As with everything at the club right now, we'll just have to wait and see.

James Watts
135 Posted 11/01/2017 at 00:00:16
Like 99.99% of people here on TW, I know absolutely nothing about the lad. But unlike 99.99% of people here, I'll bow down to Walsh's knowledge and hope he has unearthed a gem. He can't be any worse than Niasse... surely!!
Andrew Keatley
136 Posted 12/01/2017 at 00:21:07
If we do indeed sign him then I would hope that he has some qualities that we need; energy, stamina, desire, aerial strength, the ability to hold the ball up, decent movement. Not every footballer has to be able to beat 4 players and then ping it in from 35 yards.

I know very little about him – not many seem to at this point – but what I've seen reminds me of old fashioned 9s like Graziano Pelle, Bobby Zamora, Hakan Sukur and Christian Vieri. I should think that Walsh et al are trying to find footballers who will help other players to be more effective, and the team to be more balanced. With decent service then I should think he will score goals.

Derek Thomas
137 Posted 12/01/2017 at 00:40:29
Another from Walsh's crystal ball? Like Lookman, if they're both even in the same street as Gana then £10M is a snip.

Barbs from Koeman to the board in the presser and the extra £2-3M is found. Niasse off the books and another one in.

Mick Davies
138 Posted 12/01/2017 at 02:00:52
Happy birthday, Ishask Belfodil, 25 today.... I just hope you're better than our last big money striker, who's off to Hull and (hopefully not) back. Mind you, he may get to play in a semi final, unlike his Everton team mates this season.
Kristian Boyce
139 Posted 12/01/2017 at 02:35:33
Whatever the final figure is – £4M or £8.5M – in this day and age, it's not that much money in football terms. The sad fact is £10M today gets you maybe a player who would cost you a couple of million a couple of years back.

His career stats don't look great at first looks and it seems he's a bit nomadic for a 24-year-old. But actually reading up on him it is not as bad as it looks.

There are some decent sized transfer fees involved and much of the movement in Italy involves co-ownership deals which are very common for highly rated young players. Even the free transfers he's been involved in have economic reasoning behind them.

Like everyone else commenting about him, no one really knows anything about him. I see that a number of people are throwing out that he isn't in the Algeria squad for the AFCON. They only have taken 3 strikers and one of them is Slimani. The other two players I haven't really heard of but looking at their current stats, they look like they are banging them in for their respected club sides.

I think a number of fans are skeptical about this deal as they see 'big money' for an unknown player. With the new money we have, I think many people are looking for a Galactico signing, but having Walsh on board it looks like it's going to be more unearthing gems as well as a couple of bigger name players.

Jim Knightley
141 Posted 12/01/2017 at 03:53:00
To be honest I'm used to the moaning. It borders on the pathetic. We are set to sign a third player in this window, for a combined outlay of well over 30mil, and some are still complaining. Some of those complaining are probably also those who claimed our supposed new financial muscle was a myth. I wonder how many complained when Gueye was purchased too?

An odd sense of self-entitlement pervades. Apparently Lukaku is not good enough for us, and some claim Schneiderlin isn't too. This guy is relatively unknown – but it is not as if Walsh has had any success in buying an unknown Algerian from a different league before? Or for that matter a French midfielder and a lower league talent... but Wikipedia stats are probably a better judge of a player.

I'd also like to see a playmaker come in though. We are in need of a creative presence to play in front of Gueye and Schneiderlin. Schneiderlin can pass the ball very well, better than some will expect, but we need someone to make us tick and control the tempo.

Andy Codling
142 Posted 12/01/2017 at 04:15:18
Jim, I was on a Facebook thread earlier and noticed how many deluded fans are pissed off that we are not signing £50 million players Apparently if you're not that value, then you are shit.
Bill Gall
143 Posted 12/01/2017 at 04:27:06
Jason, if they are better than what we have, I will be happy if they sign a dozen. All joking aside as long as they sign players who can play in the first team and improve the regular players.
Teddy Bertin
144 Posted 12/01/2017 at 04:37:43
There's no suggestion that this man is a world beater but then who knew anything about Kante at Caen? Now he's regarded as one of the best midfielders in the world.

I'm interested to see how Walsh Stamps his authority on this job and I hope that in a market where average players seem to all be worth £20 mill plus, that Walsh managers to find us a gems like Kante and Mahrez

David Barks
145 Posted 12/01/2017 at 05:37:18
None of us know, we won't know until he we see him play, and we won't be able to judge from his first appearance. Hope for the best, we'll just have to see. The only thing I would say is he does not satisfy the need for a creative midfield player who can both supply and score goals. Still waiting for that player.
Mike Gaynes
146 Posted 12/01/2017 at 06:07:39
Iain Johnston (#117), that's old news from 2014. They eventually got it sorted and he has since played 13 times for Algeria, scoring twice.

He was left off this year's AFCON roster on the manager's decision, not due to paperwork problems.

Mike Green
148 Posted 12/01/2017 at 06:44:53
Shame Bolasie's injured – this lad looks tailor made for his crosses, and that might be part of a longer term view.

He's seems a real physical presence though which I think is an attribute Koeman's signings, by and large, are going to possess moving forward. Maybe the vision is this guy with Lookman feeding off him? Planning for life without Rom?

I don't understand the negativity either way though – I'm always filled with hope and expectation on the eve of a new signing, it's like a mini-Christmas day. Next please!

Anthony Hughes
149 Posted 12/01/2017 at 07:05:36
Don't know anything about so I can't comment either way. As long as he's mobile enough to carry out Koeman's pressing game from the front then he's been scouted and brought in to suit the style and plan of football.
David Waugh
150 Posted 12/01/2017 at 08:13:24
Encouragingly – I saw a comment on Facebook from a Liege fan who was pretty gutted about him leaving. Rated him highly and said he made a good impact at the start of the season.
Simon Jones
152 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:05:20
Instead of everyone wondering how good his own record is, perhaps he has been bought to be the perfect partener for Lukaku? In which case his goal scoring record may not be the be all and end all of this transfer. With Walsh's record, I'm inclined to trust our chief scout.
Damian Wilde
153 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:08:39
Why are people banging on about Berahino? An average striker with an attitude problem.

Let's see what this lad can do.

Jim Potter
154 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:11:49
None of us like disappointment.

Therefore I think it would be best all round if the lad is shite – just to keep the majority happy.

Guy Hastings
155 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:12:44
No sign of a keeper yet. Could he be keeping his powder dry for Hart in the summer?
Rob Williamson
158 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:22:02
Lookman in. Schneiderlin in. Belfodil in. Cleverley out. Niasse out! and all before the middle of January!!

Where is my Everton and what have you done with them??

Sam Hoare
159 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:25:32
Van Dijk was pretty good last night apparently vs the RS. Still think he's a bit overrated but what a shame that we opted for Funes Mori over him when buying a new centre-back under Martinez. I like Funes Mori but am not convinced he's top class.
Tony Draper
160 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:25:58
James @151.
Thank you, you are entirely correct.
And clearly, by my sin of omission, Tony Draper = Shite
Tony Draper
161 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:29:52
Jim @154 & 156.

Thanky ou so very much I "double snotgunned" twice in rapid succession.

Still chuckling.

Derek Knox
162 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:36:12
I sincerely hope Belfodil is not Algerian for Belfitt and he is similarly devoid of talent!
Tony Draper
163 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:46:51
Mick @138 !!!!!

"Happy birthday Ishak Belfodil, 25 today . . . "

Price? £10.4M. Bloody hell! The club have actually applied the TW laws of quality.

No, hang on he's playing in Belgium = Shite

Ray Roche
164 Posted 12/01/2017 at 09:47:27
Derek... BELFITT!

Just when I thought it was safe to come out from behind the sofa...

Tony Draper
166 Posted 12/01/2017 at 10:07:27
Ray @164.

I have just ordered two of these items, one for me, the second for you. Email me your address, please ?

Link

Paul Thompson
168 Posted 12/01/2017 at 11:02:13
Ray (#157).

In the post-Brexit, post-Trump world, aren't we supposed to trust the wisdom of crowds over people who actually know stuff? Experts = shite.

Ray Roche
169 Posted 12/01/2017 at 11:02:28
Tony, Thanks, it'll do as a spare, the one I've had for years still has some life left in it...
Ray Roche
171 Posted 12/01/2017 at 11:05:12
Paul, that's an interesting theory, but all it takes is for some Charismatic leader to come along, with fair means or foul, and dupe the masses into following him. Hitler... Mussolini... Kenwright!
Jim Potter
172 Posted 12/01/2017 at 11:49:25
Paul #157 - if only it was a post Trump world.

He's about to piss on us all.

Paul Thompson
173 Posted 12/01/2017 at 11:57:57
Guys - I was taking the piss. We need experts, including Walsh!
Raymond Fox
174 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:16:47
Why all the comments about moaning in the thread? There's a good few such as mine giving an opinion on the limited information we have that his stats look average, if that's true, is that moaning?

Now if you want to complain about negative posts ,wait to we lose again and all the players are termed shite, the managers an idiot the worst that's ever lived, the world's at an end etc, etc!

Gordon Crawford
176 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:31:15
I hope he does the job for us.

Also I just read that Payet does not want to play for West Ham again. They said he is not for sale. But I think we should put in a little bid and see what happens.

Dale Rose
177 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:31:16
Peter 140, right on the money mate. Most accurate post on here.
John G Davies
179 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:41:41
Raymond 174.

We have had the full range over the last few weeks.

"What has Koeman ever done in football"

"He's shite;hasn't got a clue it's obvious what the selection and tactics should be"

"The fans and the tv analysts forced him to play this player or that player.He had no choice but to play them"

"Moshiri is a fraud he is in Kenwrights pocket"

Sad to say ,a few are hoping it doesn't improve so they can say " told you about Koeman"

Kieran Kinsella
182 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:48:00
The Algerian Ian Ormondroyd.
David Pearl
183 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:49:34
176 Gordon, I heard they are now going to swap Payet for Snodgrass. Cheeky bastards, £3m for their best player!!
Tony Draper
184 Posted 12/01/2017 at 12:58:05
Ray @169.

I understand mate. "Radio Billy" and his cronies have "taken the piss" for two decades!

James Morgan
185 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:11:17
Kristof Terreur has posted:

Ishak Belfodil only played 133 days for Standard. His return:
21 games
10 goals
5 assists
A big transfer fee

Seems like it's happening, and based on that record and conveniently ignoring his previous records, seems decent.

Denis Richardson
186 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:16:49
James (#185), Niasse played 28 times for Lokomotive and scored 12 times. A big transfer fee.

Just saying...(Ignoring the fact he was/is utter garbage, I'll assume he's erm decent...?)

Only thing that makes me hopeful re Belfodil is that Martinez is nowhere near this transfer and the Koeman & Walsh team must rate the guy.

Peter Cummings
187 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:18:13
Really can't believe this. We need players with some recognition and proven ability so we go for a totally unknown 'no-namer' with little or no pedigree?

At least Niasse had a good goalscoring record and wasn't given a chance. Another waste of space, methinks, to add to our misery.

Gary Edwards
188 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:25:46
Kieran (182) .. lol.

My first thoughts on watching his Youtube highlights (which are sparse) were that he's a bit ungainly ... or as my mate commented .. "he runs as if the hairs on the cheeks of his arse are tied together."

If he joins then welcome to Everton matey and the very best of luck .. let's hope that his form continues in its current upward trajectory and whatever the reasons are for his past failings are behind him.

John Keating
189 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:40:31
Really strange one this. Seems we offered £8.5 million and was knocked back so we upped it to £10 million which was accepted.

Never heard of this guy and it appears there's not been a queue of Clubs in for him. I also hear his contract is up in the Summer.

I would have thought a Club having a player going on a free would be happy getting a few quid for him in January as opposed to nowt in the Summer.

There is a report from some Belgian rag that the fee is only 4 million which seems more likely. Weird.

Mark Wynne
190 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:45:15
Not sure what you expect Peter (187). To sign "names" we'd have to limit our search to EPL clubs (where you pay a huge premium) or the bigger Champions League outfits (where the TV deal makes teams like Everton look like cash piñatas). Factor in FFP and you'd be lucky to sign one or two players like that a year.

Years of Kenwright's juggling act and contributions to Philip Green's off-shore savings has left the squad in a dangerous state of disrepair. The media always highlight that we have a decent first XI, which would have been enough back in the 1980s, but in an era where the likes of Chelsea and City effectively send two teams out on loan we need more quality in the depth of our squad.

I hear some here talk about the need for four or five signings, whilst I would argue it should be more like ten or eleven. There's just no way to do that by only looking in the most obvious places for players with big reputations and big price tags to boot. That is why, I presume, that Walsh was brought in: to make what transfer funds we have available go as far as they can. Seemingly speculative punts and players that have gone under the radar will be a symptom of that approach.

Tom Bowers
191 Posted 12/01/2017 at 13:45:34
This sounds like another Niasse farce. Scoring goals in the Belgian league is nothing clever and the fact he has played for so many clubs already smacks of a bum deal and a waste of money.

Take him on loan till the end of the season if the club really sees something we can't.

James Morgan
192 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:04:05
Denis, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek in ignoring his previous record. He could be utter shite, he could be top class, let's just give him a chance shall we.

Peter (#187), Had you heard of Mahrez or Kante before they went to Leicester? Were you underwhelmed by the signing of Gueye? We could go and spunk a fortune on a "name" to appease people like you, and they could turn out to be like Crespo, Falcao, Veron, Shevchenko

You'll probably love it if he fails so you can sit back, put your feet up and claim "I told you so."

David Price
193 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:04:24
This lad looks promising. Two footed, strong, good header. Bully's centre halves off the ball. Good signing for me. Lookman a potential star too. Good window so far, best ever.

If Southampton go out of the League Cup, expect a late bid for the centre back too. Going big in the summer for Butland.

Ray Roche
194 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:20:46
David, Butland has missed the last 9 months due to injury, a recurring injury to his ankle. He may never be the same player again so I'd wait for a while on THAT one.
Adam McManus
195 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:24:34
So far, there are only positives and it would be nice to see a more thumbs up attitude from the supporters. It makes a change from the deadline day deals we have become used to.

I for one am quite excited at the prospect of seeing the new players in action. COYB

David Price
196 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:31:36
Definite signing then. Like to keep the treatment room in use.
Bill Gall
197 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:51:55
Has there been any photos of the alleged new signings appeared in an Everton shirt on the official website?
Patrick Murphy
198 Posted 12/01/2017 at 14:55:01
Bill #197
I can only assume that all of the arrivals and departures will all be announced together, either later today or in the next 24 hours, I would be pretty amazed to see any of the 'new' boys making their debuts on Sunday.
David Barks
199 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:00:21
Replace his name with Payet then you'd get everyone celebrating. I don't know why we should all be expected to cheer in celebration at a name of a footballer that not one of us has ever seen play or were wishing we'd sign. Maybe he'll be good, maybe.

But in most of these scenarios they do not turn out to be any good. Much easier to get excited about a known quantity, and that's also why those players cost more, they are much more of a guarantee.

Bill Gall
200 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:00:36
Patrick – remember this is Everton we are talking about. With Boys Pen Billy still there, I only believe in signings or departures, when it is shown on the official website.
Stephen Ashton
201 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:01:41
Peter (#187), surely that is why we brought in Walsh, to find unknown and less expensive prospects.

James (#192) is absolutely correct, Mahrez had scored 6 in 60 for Le Havre before joining Leicester last season.

Can't we give the lad a chance. We will know by the end of the season if he is a Niasse or a Gueye.

John Wilson
202 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:06:51
Why don't Everton put bid in for Hull's Snodgrass, who is good on the ball who can score goals against Premier League clubs including Everton?

No, let's just try someone who relatively recently was in a local Sunday club in zero league for £12 million. Hmm....

Ray Roche
203 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:17:09
John, so it's £12m now? Not Euros? Some reports said yesterday that the £10m reported yesterday was £5.5m too much so where has £12m come from? Inflation?...
Liam Reilly
204 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:23:35
This will certainly be one of those 'Undisclosed' amounts so everyone saves face.
David Booth
205 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:30:04
Payet – now there's a thought...

Wouldn't he be an amazing round peg in a round hole for us right now?

Erik Dols
206 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:36:41
Colin, I'm actually in Sri Lanka, just got to the hotel from a day at the beach.

I have a soft spot for Liège and see then play from time to time. I have seen the lad, to be honest I wouldn't have expected him to go to the Premier League. He's good for standard but to me nothing more. You wouldn't expect it with his height but he is not that good at holding the ball till the midfield arrives.

Let's hope I am wrong and he is the next Pelle. Belgium press is saying he is a typical Walsh-signing.

Brian Williams
207 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:38:57
David. He's 29 and would probably cost £30-£40m, and apart from that is HE the sort you'd want at this club? Someone who refuses to play because he can't get his own way with his employer, to who he's contracted .

Hope Slaven let's him rot in the reserves.

John Wilson
208 Posted 12/01/2017 at 15:59:20
Ray Roche @ 203, learn to deal with the important parts of a statement: terms pertaining to Everton being interested in Snodgrass, rather than the trivial less substantive terms: specific value of the Sunday league player.

You in effect did not answer the question but instead made reference to circumstantial information, ie, obiter.

Brian Furey
209 Posted 12/01/2017 at 16:05:30
I was just looking at Mahrez and Vardy on wiki their and their scoring records. Mahrez was only averaging around 3 or 4 goals a season up until last year's title winning season. Vardy was quite poor also up until last season with only 5 goals in 2014-15 & 16 in the championship the year before.

Lots of us rate Walsh highly because he brought these lads in to Leicester and they did so well last season but a lot of it is down to other factors and how well the team are doing.

Strikers and attack minded players depend a lot on confidence and lack of fear and I think Leicester had that last year with Rainieri.

Koeman has us playing a lot more defensively, and with fear I reckon.

Gordon Roberts
211 Posted 12/01/2017 at 16:29:57
There is also a view that Leicester were very defensive last season and allowed opposing teams more possession. Keep the faith
Jeff Armstrong
212 Posted 12/01/2017 at 16:44:33
Kasper Dohlberg, £25 million bid, stop fannying around Belgian league journeymen and get real talent in.
Brian Williams
213 Posted 12/01/2017 at 16:46:14
IF this guy actually signs that'll be three in within the first half of the window (presuming he signs within the next few days). Now that's good going for anyone, let alone "last minute Everton."

I wonder if we'll keep up the pace and make it six by the close?

*Runs to get his tin hat.*

Patrick Murphy
214 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:34:20
Apparently the lad is playing against Dortmund, right now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REPl2ttGISE

Patrick Murphy
215 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:42:09
Just watching a little bit of this friendly between Dortmund and Liege and Belfodil reminds me of Steve Walsh's brother Mickey, not a good thing is it?
Nicholas Ryan
216 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:43:39
On the one hand, people are saying: 'Never heard of him ... dodgy stats etc'. But this is precisely what Steve Walsh was recruited for... to find the players passed over by the giants, who nevertheless have something to offer.

As several people have already posted – to make progress, all he has to do, is be better than Niasse!

Kevin Rowlands
217 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:45:28
If the deal is agreed WTF is he playing right now as we post? Berahino would be a better option and just as cheap.
Eric Holland
218 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:51:40
He is a big lad, looks like he can control a ball and tackle back.
David Barks
219 Posted 12/01/2017 at 17:59:19
Star Wars commercial in German was pretty epic.
David Barks
220 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:01:39
Payet, the man Martinez apparently passed over. What an amazing piece he would be. If only...
Brian Williams
221 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:04:42
Patrick. If he is indeed playing, it would lend credence to what I was told yesterday and that was that there's been contact but no deal was on the cards...
Ray Roche
222 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:10:10
John Wilson (#208)

So let me get this straight:- you have made your mind up that Belfodil is a Sunday League player with a £12m valuation? Or "relatively recently was in a local Sunday club in zero league" ,ergo he must be, to use a ToffeeWeb favourite, shite ?

Have you seen much of Belfodil? Just asking. (I must confess, I haven't, then again, since I no longer play Sunday League, and rarely visit Belgium these days our paths would be unlikely to cross... ;-)

I just find it amusing the way transfer valuations just keep rising, at least, on ToffeeWeb...

The Snodgrass shout isn't a bad one though, but Hull will no doubt do all they can to keep him. "learn to deal "...I'm learning all the time, John.

Obiter dicta indeed. Not heard that for years..

Brian Williams
223 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:11:00
On a different note, I see little Bradley Lowery will lead us out on Sunday!
Ray Roche
224 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:31:20
Yes, Brian, I saw that too he is down to be the Mascot for the home game against Sunderland on February 25th, maybe they think he'll not be well enough at that time. Hardly bares thinking about. I hope he gets a great reception and enjoys his day.

Proud to be Blue.

Brian Williams
225 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:33:22
He'll get the best reception of anyone I reckon and rightly so.
Things like his story certainly put things in perspective.
Brent Stephens
226 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:41:02
A touching story.
Peter Cummings
227 Posted 12/01/2017 at 18:46:48
Gentlemen, I fully support your right to question my remarks re our latest signing. I'm not one who will sit back and say ''I told you so'' if I'm proved right about buying him, in fact I am quite happy to be proved wrong, and to give him a chance. But the same courtesy should have been accorded to Niasse who was humiliated and shamed by Koeman after less than a couple of cameos,

As for having to pay out big bucks for 'name' players, according to the media Everton are literally rolling in those bucks right now, so money should not prove a problem to honour our motto 'Only The Best Will Do'. To my mind Mr Walsh still has to prove himself as a master spotter of potential star material (for us). If he turns out to be half as good as David Moyes was in that field, I will be extremely happy.

Ian Jones
228 Posted 12/01/2017 at 19:39:39
If Bradley is leading the team out as has been mentioned then I believe all us Evertonians will be feeling proud.

Our club usually steps up in circumstances such as these. Wonderful club to support.

Tony Hill
229 Posted 12/01/2017 at 20:25:30
I am now a bit sceptical that this one is going to happen. The gas seems to have gone out of it.
Brian Williams
230 Posted 12/01/2017 at 20:34:47
Tony. You could be right as there are work permit issues to deal with too. He hasn't played the required number of games to qualify for one. There is an appeals process but that doesn't guarantee success.
David Price
231 Posted 12/01/2017 at 20:54:17
Sad news from Bradley's mum, posted by the Echo. Poor lad, so sorry for him and his family.
Colin Glassar
233 Posted 13/01/2017 at 08:54:44
This one sounds like a lot of BS. The lad is still in Spain by some accounts.
Chris Williams
234 Posted 13/01/2017 at 09:09:42
If he comes he comes. I'm not going to get worked up about this one.

We certainly need another striker, and at least one attacking midfielder as a minimum. Anything else is a bonus.

Rob Halligan
235 Posted 13/01/2017 at 10:36:14
Totally off topic, but in reply to a couple of posts above about young Bradley Lowrey.

Interesting article in the Red Echo, about the Plymouth fan whose son died in hospital while the fan was at Anfield last Sunday. Condolences to the family of course.

The article goes on to say the RS fans have done a collection to make a banner IRO the son, which they will display at Plymouth in the replay. The sum raised... £320!!

Got no problems with the money raised, but what galls me is one RS fan in the comments stating. "Fantastic, best fans in the world" Has this fan not heard of the collections done by EFC fans IRO Bradley Lowrey, or the money donated by the Everton board?

And another point, no mention of any comments from the RedShite hierarchy regarding this sad occasion. Everton have invited Bradley and his family down to be the Everton mascot on Sunday before he departs for his treatment. Let's see what the RedShite offer the family of the dead son?

Perhaps a free trip to Anfield for a Premier League game? I won't hold my breath on that one!!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We'd all love to win trophies, but the one thing they will never be better than us at is the off-field activities, the Everton in the Community, etc. Everton as a club are head and shoulders above them, as are us fans.

WE ARE THE BEST FANS IN THE WORLD!!

Tony Heron
236 Posted 13/01/2017 at 12:30:01
Rob @ 235. Come on, mate, it's not a competition!!

Good on the Liverpool fan who started the appeal and to those who responded. I'm proud of the fact that as Scousers we're able to empathise with others when misfortune strikes and we do it out of humane feelings and not so that we just look good.

Condolences to the family of the Plymouth fan.

Brian Williams
237 Posted 13/01/2017 at 13:34:58
Hear, hear, Tony.
Chris Williams
238 Posted 13/01/2017 at 14:01:43
Back to the original thread.

It's being reported that this deal is going ahead. It was expected to be announced yesterday but there has been some delay caused by interference from intermediaries who should not be involved apparently.

This is from the same source that broke the story originally and may explain the delay in announcing the Schneiderlin deal.

Joe Digney
239 Posted 13/01/2017 at 16:17:28
Not sure if this has been posted in the comments but it's an interesting little read:

Who is Ishak Belfodil? Meet Everton's unpredictable new attacker once compared to Ibra

Sounds like a lad that has talent in there somewhere and is slowly starting to show it, may just be worth the gamble.

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