Milan make contact with Barcelona over Deulofeu

Monday 10 April 2017  40 Comments  [Jump to last]
AC Milan appear to have initiated discussions with Barcelona over a possible summer move for Gerard Deulofeu.

The 23-year-old has been on loan at the San Siro from Everton since January and has been enjoying a productive spell there, weighing in with goals and assists after battling to impress Ronald Koeman.

Milan have no purchase clause in the loan deal with the Blues but are keen on making his move permanent at the end of the season.

Barcelona, Deulofeu's former club, have first option on the player after negotiating a €12m buy-back clause that expires this year and the Italians would need their agreement before they could open talks with Everton.

"In June, you will know, I do not know what will happen in the market, so I cannot say anything," Rossoneri head honcho Adriano Galliani told Milan TV, apparently in regard to Deulofeu.

"I have spoken with the people in charge of Barcelona, but I will not tell you what they told me.”  


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Kieran Kinsella
1 Posted 10/04/2017 at 18:40:37
Why do they have to talk to Barca? Isn't he under contract to us? Barca have a buy back clause but wouldn't you talk to the team that owns him.

Instead of a team that may or may not resign him?

Chris Leyland
2 Posted 10/04/2017 at 18:47:54
Kieran, here is a scenario: Milan say to Everton 'How much do you want?' Everton say 㿀m.

Milan don't want to pay 㿀m so they speak to Barca to say 'Why not exercise your buy back clause for 㾸m and then sell him to us for 㾼m?'

Barca make ٢m profit for doing nothing and Milan save ٢m on what Everton are asking.

Frank Wade
3 Posted 10/04/2017 at 19:05:15
Chris #2, I see a post on the Rumours thread a couple of days ago from Martin Nicholls which says 'they can't immediately sell him to Milan. Barca are obliged under the terms of our agreement with them to retain him in their first team squad for a year before they can sell him on. '

Seems sensible. Martin must be in the know on the contract details

Kieran Kinsella
4 Posted 10/04/2017 at 19:08:40
So it could be like the weird deal where we got some Greek team to buy Henen, loaned then bought him. Seems shady. Great way for agents to make money.
Paul Dolan
5 Posted 10/04/2017 at 19:33:51
Martinez described in detail the various clauses that apply, we even have a sell on percentage to claim if Barca tried to hold him for a year and then cash in.

And as far as I can tell they can't just buy him for the ressies, they would have to give him first team football of some sort. So the stories being put out by lazy journos are a non-starter.

Brian Williams
6 Posted 10/04/2017 at 19:43:56
Frank (#3). He doesn't need to be in the know. The details of the deal are common knowledge and were highlighted by Martinez when he was still at the club.
Brian Williams
7 Posted 10/04/2017 at 19:48:13
Not shady at all Kieran, very astute from an Everton viewpoint and put in place to prevent a scenario where we develop the player to the point that Barca buy him back for £12m and then sell him on at a higher price immediately.

Even after they've had him for the year, should they buy him back, we receive a chunk of the sell on fee.

Scott Goin
8 Posted 10/04/2017 at 22:36:56
Frank is right, Barcelona can't resell him for at least a year. However, Milan does need to ask Barca if they plan on triggering their buyback clause since that would over ride any deal Milan could make with Everton. So if Barca says they're not interested, Milan can start talking to us.

I personally don't see Deulofeu commanding more than 㾶 million so I doubt Barcelona will buy him back. Then again, different people are in charge now. They may think he still has potential.

Chris Leyland
9 Posted 10/04/2017 at 22:43:39
Do the terms of the deal allow Barca buy him back and then loan him out for a year?
Eugene Ruane
10 Posted 10/04/2017 at 22:51:08
"Eez our player, you fuckin' talk-a to us...and there's a bee on you 'at" Link
Thomas Surgenor
11 Posted 10/04/2017 at 22:52:11
Chris (#9),

No. He must be part of the first team squad for a full year. If Barcelona sell him after that, Everton get a huge whack of any profit made.

Colin Glassar
12 Posted 10/04/2017 at 23:07:51
Everton appear to hold all the cards here. I'd love him to come back.
George Stuart
13 Posted 10/04/2017 at 23:19:09
Can someone explain why he is a great success everywhere he plays except for us. No spite intended here, just curious.

Barcelona's definition of successful might be a little higher than most BTW.

Brian Wilkinson
14 Posted 10/04/2017 at 23:40:00
Can I just add as well that it was Bobby Brown shoes who insisted on the sell-on clause for Deulofeu, and who dug his heels in on not letting Stones or Lukaku go on the cheap.

Put our club back years but did do some good things as well that get overlooked.

Derek Knox
15 Posted 11/04/2017 at 02:25:58
With you there on that one Colin, without sounding smug, we are not a Club who need to sell to survive any longer, thanks to Mr Moshiri for that.

The undoubted experience that Del will have gained, in Italian football, may have brought him on a bit more.

The lad always wanted to play for us, and us only, in the Prem, and let's be fair, didn't force a move away, he just wanted regular football.

I would love to have him back, hopefully, we will be involved in European Football, (probably Europa) next season so will need a deeper squad, with experience of Continental style, step up young Del!

William Cartwright
16 Posted 11/04/2017 at 03:38:56
Deulofeu as our No 10 and Ross as our main striker....
John Codling
18 Posted 11/04/2017 at 08:20:53
Brian (#14),

The ONLY good thing Bobby Brown Shoes done was to fuck off. Still cannot believe a no-mark gets a team relegated and Everton appoint him as manager, you wouldn't see that in a comedy series. But Welcome to EFC.

Danny Broderick
19 Posted 11/04/2017 at 09:30:40
Where has he been playing for Milan? On the wing or as a number 10?
Neil Wood
20 Posted 11/04/2017 at 09:35:41
William @ 16. I would be with you on that. Have always said that Barkley would make a great striker.

And I've long been an admirer of Deulofeu and thought it was ridiculous when he was loaned out.

What Deulofeu needs is games, not 10 minutes cameos. He will struggle maybe for the first couple but once he finds his feet he will be one of the best players in the league. I'm hoping that we haven't missed the boat with him, I really am.

Martin Nicholls
21 Posted 11/04/2017 at 11:13:52
George (#13) – the simple answer to your question is that he isn't "a great success everywhere he plays except us"! Seems to be doing okay at Milan but was poor during his loan spell at Sevilla. I'd have him back though!
David Hallwood
22 Posted 11/04/2017 at 11:24:20
I've got a feeling about Deulofeu that he'll be our Kevin De Bruyne; erratic & inconsistent, loaned then sold, and how Chelsea fans must be ruing the one that got away, as he's turned into one of the best midfielders in Europe.

I don't suppose there are too many Twebbers who are fortunate to make a living from football as players, coaches etc. But we've all seen 100s or 1000s of footballers either live or on TV, so we all would like to think that we know the difference between the good the bad, the honest triers the lazy bastards etc.

And IMHO, Deulofeu is a good, or has the potential to be as good as I've seen. Obviously Koeman doesn't share my view so what do I know; but he wouldn't be the first manager (the not so special one's done it a few times) to misjudge a player and ship them out.


Tony Ateman
23 Posted 11/04/2017 at 11:28:05
I love Deulofeu to pieces but he doesn't seem to have the puff for the Premier League.
John Wilson
24 Posted 11/04/2017 at 13:20:31
Barkley – a striker who can't make decisions... but if the side netting were to count as scoring goals, he'd be a brilliant striker.

Deulofeu – I don't understand Koeman letting him go, the lad is a genius. Everton just don't have his football intelligence to keep up with him. Del likes fast football, ie Barca, Milan... rather than the sluggard pace of our still largely very average Everton.

There are many players who should have went before Del. I agree Del didn't have enough actual playing time, the European league football is keeper kicks the ball off... 20 seconds later... goal to Barca.

Ciarán McGlone
25 Posted 11/04/2017 at 13:28:49
He opened his mouth and questioned Koeman. He paid the price and won't be back. The one that got away.
Sam Hoare
26 Posted 11/04/2017 at 13:42:46
John 24, strange comment. The Premier League is known for being far faster and more frenetic than most other leagues. Esepcially Serie A which is renowned for being a slower more tactical affair.

If anything, Deulofeu is more suited to a slower pace where he has more space and less need to be fit, hence things going well at AC Milan...

Jay Wood
27 Posted 11/04/2017 at 17:29:32
Continues to shine at Milan. Since joining and playing from the bench in his first game, he has been an ever-present in the starting line up in their last 10 games.

In those 10 games he has only been subbed out twice, late in the game, which rather challenges the charges some make that he can't last 90 minutes.

Two goals, 3 assists in those games. Running at the defence against Palermo this weekend, he won the free kick from which Milan scored directly for their 1st goal. He scored their 4th, again running at the defence who foolishly backed off and he curled a delightful 'out to in' shot around two defenders and the keeper.

Recently called up for Spain against France, coming on as sub he helped settle the game: within 30 seconds on entering the game, he won the penalty for Spain's 1st and then scored their second in only his second appearance for the national side.

In a couple of days, he turns 23. It looks as if Koeman doesn't fancy him.

Nobody currently at Everton offers what Gerard does.

I'd keep him at Everton as long as possible AND be playing him every week.

Dave Abrahams
28 Posted 11/04/2017 at 17:38:23
Jay (27) what position has he been playing for Milan? A lot on ToffeeWeb think he would do well playing in the No 10 role, including me.

As you say, it doesn't look like Koeman fancies him, although to be honest he hasn't taken the chance to really impress the manager, but again he hasn't been given the role of a playmaker. He may get another chance at Goodison, even if it odds against that at the moment.

Jay Wood
29 Posted 11/04/2017 at 18:32:45
Dave, I also think he could be a play maker in the # 10 role, but what I've seen from (highlights only) of Milan games, they are largely playing him as a wide man.

I say largely because a lot of his highlighted play shows him running at defences centrally from where he is winning free kicks, creating chances and scoring.

We could rue letting him go too easily and too cheaply IMO.

Dave Abrahams
30 Posted 11/04/2017 at 21:32:02
Jay (29) you could be right, time will tell.
Mark Rankin
32 Posted 11/04/2017 at 22:14:52
One of the oddest situations I can recall regards an Everton player but Milan probably in the worst position of the three clubs if contract is as reported on ToffeeWeb.

Barcelona could take him back and I'd be a bit gutted if they do but that would leave a sweetener to the Martinez era with £10 million for Gerry, £8M for Cleverley and Niasse doing well and likely to recoup some of his fee.

Phil Bellis
33 Posted 11/04/2017 at 22:50:19
Ciaràn Where'd you get that from?
Ciarán McGlone
34 Posted 11/04/2017 at 23:14:11
He gave an interview in December that was a thinly veiled attack on Koemans use of him and his tactics.

After that he was gone.

Tom Brown
35 Posted 12/04/2017 at 07:20:16
Have a look at his Milan "highlights" on Youtube. A nice goal in there and a couple of nice assists but... mostly consists of runs that end with the ball being lost or with him going down too cheaply. If that was for us in the Prem... even if he got free kicks for those (and avoided being booked) I'd be a bit embarrased by him going down so easy.

Very talented player that Prem opposition worked out they could easily muscle off the ball. Unless he builds strength & uses it, I can't see him having a future in England.

Anyway, I'll trust in Koeman to make the right decision. He knows the player far better than I do... and he knows quite a lot more about football!

Ernie Baywood
36 Posted 12/04/2017 at 14:28:43
Strange content from Galliani. I'm guessing they would be far more privvy to the exact conditions of his contract than we (the supporters) are. Maybe there's more to this than we were told?
Phil Bellis
37 Posted 12/04/2017 at 15:06:05
Cheers, Ciaràn

Lucky he wasn't stripped of his locker!

John Wilson
38 Posted 12/04/2017 at 16:16:32
Sam Hoare (at #26).

The top 4 play fast Premier League football. I was watching La Liga recently and the pace of their football was immensely rapid, sophisticated, and the attempts/ shots at goal were just as rapid. I have viewed nothing like this even including the Premier League's top 4/ 6.

John Wilson
39 Posted 12/04/2017 at 16:28:54
As for Deulofeu apparently being muscled off the ball easily, the Lookman kid could break wind and lose the ball – a good gust of Goodison atmosphere would knock Lookman off the ball. Deulofeu was / is simply a genius.

There was a Spanish player giving his all time top 10 players who he has played with, or players he rated highly, on Sky Sports, and there were some top names. Deulofeu was considered one of them.

Jim Hardin
40 Posted 12/04/2017 at 22:54:56
John Wilson, Obviously a famous well-known and respected "Spanish player." We will have to guess as he made an impact on you that you will never ever forget, erm, uh, well, everything except his name that is. Did he also put Soldado in that list?
Alexander Murphy
41 Posted 12/04/2017 at 23:57:10
I'd like him back and playing. Particularly missed since Bolasie got injured. Always felt that he could produce a moment of magic and turn a game. I seriously wonder just what we might see from him in the more free ranging role given to the improving Barkley.
Brian Furey
42 Posted 13/04/2017 at 14:22:29
There is no doubt Geri is a talented footballer with pace who can be exciting and produce a moment of magic that could unlock a stubborn defence, but I've been keeping an eye on him since his move and reading what some of the AC Milan fans have been saying about him on here:

AC Milan Forum

The majority of them like him and want to sign him at the end of the season but there are a few that are not so sure, especially regarding his goal return and final ball.

When reading the posts, I couldn't help but think how we first reacted to him when he first came on loan to us and how excited we were that we had such a young talented Barcelona prospect playing for us.

There is no doubt that, since the first day he went to Milan, that he upped his effort and you could tell by his body language he really wanted to be there and play for such a big club. This point alone I believe is HUGE in that I think Geri is quite a temperamental player who if things aren't going his way he is very quick to throw his arms up in the air and his toys out of the pram.

He saw this as a fresh start in a new country where nobody knew him that well. Also, it was exciting moving to a new country where the people are all football crazy. No disrespect to Liverpool but I'd imagine it's much more pleasant for a young Spaniard to live in Milan than it is in Northwest England.

If you watch some of his performances/highlights on YouTube playing for Milan he certainly does seem to be working much harder and even getting back to defend which he just wouldn't really do for Koeman. I think Koeman wanted to keep him as a super-sub or a bit part player but Geri wanted away himself as he didn't like our style of football and that hard work and graft was appreciated more in England than skill and flair.

In a way he's a bit like Mirallas in that when Kev takes the notion to work hard and play he's quite the player but too often then he couldn't be bothered or gets frustrated and gives up. Kev however is much more likely to score you goals whereas Geri, despite having more skill, seems to continually be slow to shoot, or when he does it doesn't seem to be with much urgency.

Personally, I would like to see him come back to us as I think he has developed a bit since his move there but I just think the lad no longer is motivated to play for us and, with his girlfriend having a baby, I think he will want to stay in Italy or maybe go back to Barca to be near their families. He probably feels he has done well there and the fans rate him so he feels loved again.

Milan look like they are also bound for the Europa League this year so who knows he could be playing against us next year with a point to prove.

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