Season tickets sell out in record time

Change is happening and Bramley-Moore will hopefully provide the impetus to smash open that glass ceiling.

I agree with the guys, there could be upward pressure on attaining capacities in the 50,000 area, then increases up to the 60,000+ dreams are then possible.

I for one have started to think that I might even buy a flat and relocate for weekends back on the docks if Bramley-Moore gets the go-ahead. I am sure there are lots of blues thinking the same way.

Different times, I understand, but we have an awesome lot of potential support if the club is marketed right

Best you can hope for is "Yes, well he might have but " Best not to look for a few days until their spleen is vented.

Does that mean that legitimate questioning about some aspects of Bill's leadership is off the table? I support Everton FC – not the chairman, not the owner, or the manager – they all come and go as time passes.

It's a little pointless to ask where would Everton FC be without the influence of Mr Kenwright as none of us can know for sure. It could be that the club would have become a basket case and ended up in the lower tiers of the football pyramid, or it could have led to a quicker turn-around from Premier League paupers and perennial relegation strugglers into a club that challenged the other major players in the top flight.

If as fans we buy into the "Uncle Bill looks after us because he knows what it is to be a blue," then perhaps relatively cheaper tickets are enough to make us happy. If, on the other hand, fans feel short-changed on the football side of things because we haven't seen a truly competitive team for some considerable time, then it could be argued that Uncle Bill has completely missed the point as to why many fans support the club.

I'm neither a fawning advocate of Bill, nor a member of the it's all his fault camp - but any chairman, owner, manager of Everton FC should be under constant scrutiny by the supporters even if admission to the stadium is free.

I think Bill, for much of his time at the helm at Everton FC, got given the benefit of the doubt far too often, when many others in his position would have been run out of town.

Let's see where the club is in five years time; if the club has moved on from where it is now, we can then perhaps laud the merits of Uncle Bill.

As far as I'm concerned, if the club has progressed to the levels that we all hope it does, I will happily throw a few bob into a Bill Kenwright statue campaign. In the meantime, I will along with a few others keep a weathered eye on Uncle Bill, Mr Moshiri and all the others who shape the future of Everton FC.

Tin hat on again. Mr Kenwright has given us top flight football under his leadership. Season after season low-price season tickets. The community of Everton have benefited from his amazing work. It has given people hope in the area.

Mr Kenwright is a fan but also eats and sleeps this great club. If he was a billionaire, he would have spent most of it on the club. A good man who's heart is Everton. For what he has done, a knighthood would be a fitting honour.

"If he was a billionaire, he would have spent most of it on the club."

I wonder if you can tell me offhand just how much capital value in Everton FC our dear old Mr Kenwright has put in, and how much he cashed out to boost his own meagre millionaire fortune?

I can remember the days of Bingham and Gordon Lee when attendances plummetted to 16,000 and cushions rained down from the stand. In the present people might stay away(a la Man City fans) but the official attendance would still say "sell out!"

Hopefully a new stadium, with a large capacity of 60,000 could give a chance to the many people who no longer live near enough or can afford to go regularly but would still like the opportunity to see a few games a season. Also these fans currently have little chance of going to away games due to the loyalty shown by the club to season ticket holders.

I hope that the club keeps at least 10,000 seats out of the season ticket allocation to attract the many in my situation, of which there must be thousands.

Last time an Everton team were turning out in a league below the top flight was way back in season 1953-1954. Kenwright has hardly been Willy Wonka leading us by the hand to a previously unimagined place of wonder. How could he 'give' us what we already had in our grasp for going on 50years by the time he got his foot in the door?

At most, he helped 'maintain' our top flight status and managed not to toss it away.

He's made a fortune out of Everton, but he's not in it for the money though! It must be for the adulation, and the glory...

Even though the timeline around Goodison, has been frozen since he became our chairman, with the irony being his smug smirk, sitting right on top of the ticket office, on Goodison Road!

In Gordon Lee's time we had season tickets in Upper Bullens. At one game which I think was against Ipswich, someone/one of the cushion vendors had stuck up a hand written sign – "Missiles 50p".

Kenwright. Had no money to put in. Took us over on the brink of relegation and in chaos. Gave us stability and kept us in the Premier League. A feat no-one else has managed and a feat currently worth £100's millions a year. Try naming another team that has managed that with no money. He must have done something right!

It would have paid for Itself with the extra ticket sales over the period in waiting to move. There is acres of room behind that stand if they can't put another tier on it.

In any event, 3000 extra seats would generate £2m a season max. Given a conservative estimate of £5k construction costs per seat, we would need to wait over seven years to get the money back, needing at least a year for any construction.

Not a stick to beat the current board with, I think.

I'm not certain, but I think that a bank held a covenant over part of the stadium, if not all of it, and I believe that Mr Moshiri has paid for that to be removed since he joined Everton. I'll see if I can find a more authoritative piece of evidence or hopefully somebody else will have the actual details.

I think I remember a few years ago there was some development work there mooted which couldn't go ahead for the reason you just explained.

Much vitriol on here I recall.

Here's a link to a TW editorial from November last year and it makes reference to Moshiri clearing the debts, including removing those covenants.

Moshiri

You couldn't make it up really.

This was in 2011, was 'you know who' involved?

Everton plans £9m retail development at Goodison Park

Mentions both the Chuckle Brothers being all over it, so I guess that's a Yes, Dave.

In 1975-76 under Bingham: home v Spurs, only 18,126; home v Stoke, only 16,974 and Boro 18,204.

Then 1981-82 under Lee, home v Stoke, a mere 15,352.

My understanding is that the "Pru" wanted to renegotiate the whole of the borrowing in consideration of them agreeing to allow extra borrowing on the exact plot for the development, and the deal was upwards only at which point the club backed off.

I understand that the issue was addressed but in the meantime one of the partners went bust and it couldn't proceed.

It was more than set to go. Work had actually started on digging up the car park for the foundations which I saw on a couple of occasions driving past.