Everton hope to announce Sandro transfer

Saturday 17 June 2017  252 Comments  [Jump to last]
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Updated Reports suggest that Sandro Ramirez could be unveiled as Everton's third signing of the summer within the next 48 hours as the club look to agree personal terms.

The former Barcelona striker met with club officials and had a medical at Finch Farm last weekend and has spent the past few days mulling over a move from Málaga while he is at the U21 European Championships.

Sandro only joined the Liga side last year but his 16 goals in 31 appearances attracted plenty of attention, particularly given his comparatively small release clause.

Everton have moved decisively to lure the player to Goodison Park and, according to a number of media sources, from Paul Joyce of The Times and Dominic King of the Daily Mail to Marca and Sky Sports, look to have landed their man for a reported £5.2m after Atletico Madrid's bid for him was stymied by that club's six-month transfer embargo.

The indications on Merseyside are that the exact terms of Sandro's contract have yet to be agreed but that the club expect to have those resolved in the next couple of days.

A pacey, inventive forward, Sandro can operate out wide in attack, playing off the main striker or spearheading the attack himself. Only Lionel Messi scored more goals from outside the box in La Liga this season, suggesting that Rronald Koeman and Steve Walsh could be adding another much-needed goal threat to the side.

 

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Joseph Terrence
1 Posted 17/06/2017 at 15:44:43
Paul Joyce has said we are set to complete the Sandro signing. Get in!!
Mike Gaynes
2 Posted 17/06/2017 at 15:58:58
Joseph, latest I've seen is that Malaga are in for Borja from Swansea as Sandro's replacement, which if completed could help push the process of Sandro joining us.
Rob Halligan
3 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:08:53
Medical passed. Signing in the next 48 hours.
Joseph Terrence
4 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:09:55
Excellent news. Quality and a real bargain.
Mark Whyment
5 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:10:42
Good business. COYB's
Susong Hermawan
6 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:13:32
Great... im feeling positive this season, COYB's!!!
Alexander Lee
7 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:15:16
Get in! Going to sleep well tonight after this news.
Jay Harris
8 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:16:27
Lets hope we get this one over the line but I wouldn't want another Lukaku situation with the player wishing he was at Atletico.

I would like to see us go for Andre Gray plus any one of Aguero, Giroud, Vardy and then we will have replaced Lukaku, Valencia and Kone – and we will have improved the squad to top 4 levels.

Rick Pattinson
9 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:16:45
Good shout. I reckon this boy could bag us a few goals. Let's hope all these players gel and we make a cracking start to the season.
James Flynn
10 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:21:18
Yep – Couple of writers calling this just now:

"Sandro Ramirez passes medical, set to sign for Everton."

John Smith
11 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:22:32
Gavin Johnson
12 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:25:32
Yes, get in!!

Wondered whether he was mulling things over after nothing being announced after the weekend talks. Splashing over £50m in day must have shown him we're serious about our Champions League aspirations. I'm made up about this deal happening.

David Barks
13 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:34:03
Jay Harris,

I'm of the similar mindset as you. I hope this is the Valencia replacement and not the Lukaku replacement. We need to keep in mind that Kone and Valencia both left this Summer, so regardless how poor they were, they still need replacing.

We can't loss those two plus Lukaku and be pleased with on the likes of Sandro coming in. If Sandro signs and Lukaku stays another year we will have made a massive improvement. If Lukaku goes then we will absolutely need to get in additional quality up top in addition to Sandro.

But putting that aside, I really hope this move is wrapped up and he can do the job in England.

Winston Williamson
14 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:35:56
I've been thinking about our transfer activity so far. Reports suggested we had a budget of £75mil and if this deal comes off, we've spent circa 60 mil.

However, Cleverley's fee of £8mil, means we have £23mil left.

If we sign a defender next, it'll confirm my thoughts to me.

The above is on the basis of not selling Lukaku and Barkley. If they're sold, plus other players, our budget increases and we have a need for further signings...

This isn't based on anything but my own thoughts... no proof and I may just be chatting nonsense.

Barry McNally
15 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:38:18
Get Ronnie in while we're at it!
Aidy Dews
16 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:43:19
Well if we officially sign him in the next 2 days, I'll be surprised. I honestly thought he wouldn't have made a decision until after the U-21 Euros that's just kicked off...
Denis Richardson
18 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:48:57
This guy for £5m would be an absolute steal!

So probably a keeper, central midfielder and striker all signed up and ready to join on 1st July. Can't ever remember Everton doing so much business this early.

Still need a few more but an excellent start so far. Hopefully at least one defender and another striker to come.

Barry McNally
19 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:50:49
Hope Deulofeu doesn't put him off.
Chris Williams
20 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:53:47
Reports of £75m were not from Everton. There have been reports of £150m again not from the club. So ignore them and see what happens, Winston, and enjoy the ride.

Cash will be due from Cleverley, McGeady, Niasse, Deulofeu transfers to whatever degree. We may well sell Barkley and Lukaku and they will need replacing too. So with the three in and possibility of Keane, Sigurdsson, then that's a decent start.

Let's see where we end up and enjoy the experience which is a new one in the last 30 years for Evertonians.

Stress not!

James Morgan
21 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:56:06
This could be a true Walsh bargain. Plus, if you add up our three signings and average them out, £20m per player with several million of that being incentivised, we've spent very well thus far in my opinion.
David Pearl
22 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:56:25
Winston (#11)

Shouldn't all TW posts come with that last disclaimer?

Do we need a centre-back if Funes Mori is fit again? Interesting to see where we go next. Perhaps not another central midfield player.

Chris Gould
23 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:56:27
Yes, yes, yes!!! He'll be the signing of the season.

I am more excited by Sandro than any other player we have been linked with. I really believe he is the real deal. Combative, direct, quick, skillful, has a great free kick... and all for €6 million!!

Clive Rogers
24 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:56:36
From what I've read, this guy sounds like the real deal and an absolute snip. Certainly hope so. Can't wait for the new season to start.
Mark Frere
25 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:57:51
Please let this one get over the line – this lad is a class act and the player I'm excited about.
Joe O'Brien
26 Posted 17/06/2017 at 16:58:12
Yes, yes and yes... I've been waiting for this news all week. He's got the look of a cult figure about him... Big Dunc-ish. He'll be a great signing, I reckon.
Adam Scott
27 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:01:21
Ignore talk of budgets and warchests. It doesn't work like that. Listen to the Business Matters podcast from The Blue Room.

For what it is worth, this is a monumental deal. To attract a player like this – where Everton isn't the first choice or the obvious choice for him – speaks volumes for the club we are now.

Tim Locke
28 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:19:41
Quality bit of business and so for the Echo only 10 days stating this deal was off.

A truely excellent signing, with power and pace. Big rom stays and we have a genuine front two who would cause major problems for defences.

Like others, I would like to see a right back brought in and winger. Although if Deulofeu comes back I think he would get the protection he needs with these two.

COYBs – a fantastic season is ahead of us. In terms of the season, would people take a top 6 finish and Europa League winners?

Gavin Johnson
29 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:23:33
Sandro is a £20m striker all day long and for his age and scoring record, would have been better value at his true value than the £17m we would have spent on Perez last summer. At £5m, I'm sure he will be bargain of the summer.

If you look at the total money spent, £58m once this deal is concluded, you're looking at £20m on each of the 3 players based on Sandro's true value. It's very good business and I defy the most negative TWer to say otherwise.

Joe Foster
30 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:26:02
I hope this comes off. I have a good feeling about him.
William Cartwright
31 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:30:22
I really hope this happens and that is the big one landed, even if no-one really knows it yet. He is the player to watch, whatever Lukaku, Ross and Geri end up doing. Thing is, Lukaku, Ross and Geri are all wonderfully talented players but the combined three don't have the heart or passion of this guy.

Providing the talent is there, which it is in spades, these traits in the right player, in the right team structure and club atmosphere are priceless. My gut tells me this guy will be the fan's favorite by a country mile!

I don't have the wisdom or wizardry to understand the subtleties of Moshiri's business plan but bugger me, there seems to be a tremendous sense of jigsaw pieces starting to form a recognizable picture: debt paid off; new stadium progressing; nervousness regarding the Commonwealth Games running track dispelled; USM Finch Farm sitting quietly in the background; Koeman with his doubters but still seeming to do the right things.

I think Moshiri is really starting to deliver and he seems to make the right decisions regarding selecting and working with people; Koeman & team, Walsh, Meis, Anderson et al.

COYB and thank you Mr Moshiri.


Michael Kenrick
33 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:30:42
If that compilation is to be believed, this lad is ready to tear the Premier League apart. Hate to get sucked in by speculation but, if true, I'm loving it!
Alan Bodell
34 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:34:38
Somebody, anybody, please just pinch me!

Is this really happening?

David Chait
35 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:34:55
I'm more excited by this one than our first 2!! Come on Everton.. if we get this I'm happy! Then we only a centre-back short of a massively improved side! (Pre departures...)
Darryl Ritchie
36 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:37:39
An absolute steal at £5 million. This could be the best deal of the window, for any player at any club.
Dave Lynch
37 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:45:57
3 new signings
1 new stadium

Am I in a parallel universe to the one at the end of the season?

I'm going for a lie down...

Paul Tran
38 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:49:23
Good thing about these three signings is that they're all visibly passionate and look desperate to succeed. About time we replaced the plucky Everton with a harder-edged Everton.

Three good signings and more to come. No doubting Moshiri's ambition, surely?

Nick Dodman
39 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:50:39
Please get this one done, looks a cracking player and still going to improve given his age. Two quality signings already this week and now this!! I need a cider!
Paul Kossoff
40 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:52:10
Sandro Ramirez will become the latest addition to Everton's transfer revolution.
The Malaga striker had deliberated over a proposed £5.2 million move to the Blues following discussions with director of football Steve Walsh last weekend.

But Sandro is now set to be unveiled as an Everton player in the next 48 hours after successfully passing a medical to finalise his switch from La Liga.

Atletico Madrid were also interested in the 21-year-old but an appeal over their transfer ban was upheld, allowing Ronald Koeman's side to retake pole position.

Sandro scored 16 goals for Malaga last season, one which came under the gaze of the Everton manager as he and Walsh observed a 3-0 win over Celta Vigo.

Koeman's capture of the Barcelona graduate takes summer spending at Goodison Park to almost £60m following Jordan Pickford and Davy Klaassen‘s arrivals.

Christy Ring
41 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:54:28
He'd be the bargain of the summer, hope it goes through. We still need another striker to replace Lukaku.
Chris James
42 Posted 17/06/2017 at 17:56:21
Great news (assuming it gets over the line), I would still love to see Siggy in whoever stays/goes. I'm not quite as obsessed with landing a central defender this window, it's attacking options for me.

Obviously with big departures, there'll be a need for further arrivals.

Bob Hannigan
43 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:04:20
Early & often!

Good sign for the future.

Thanks Mr Mo$hiri, Mr Ko€man & Mr Wa£sh.

Gordon White
44 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:06:36
Great news. Fingers crossed. Hopefully a few more to come.

I would like to see Siggy sign. Somebody pinch me!!!

Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:06:58
Paul K, your cut-and-paste function is working beautifully.
Paul Kossoff
46 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:11:33
Thanks. Mike. I'm sick as a pig at the moment, bad chest infection and broken metacarpal, so that's all your getting from me. I don't pretend it's me writing it, but sometimes it's all my own work, lol.

Here's one:, Alan Stubbs says Barkley is Arsenal bound!

Mike Gaynes
47 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:20:36
Geez, Paul, chest AND hand? Ouch.

Sounds like you need chicken soup and some homemade gefilte fish.

Feel better soon.

Paul Kossoff
48 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:24:37
Thanks Mike, it's my big toe actually!😥 wish I had the homemade gefilte fish. As I've just had chicken noodles and they were disgusting!
William Cartwright
49 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:26:37
Paul, where did you hear the Barklay / Arsenal connection? Is there anything solid in it?
James Stewart
50 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:29:30
Quality player and a real coup this one. He is a top player hence Atletico Madrid's interest. This isn't a Rom replacement – he likes to roam in from either flank.

At full strength we could be looking at something like this:

Pickford
Coleman Keane Williams Baines
Klaassen Gueye Schneiderlin
Sandro Bolasie
Rom Replacement

COYB!
Alastair Donaldson
51 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:32:01
Doesn't exactly overuse his left, does he? (O:

Reminds me a little of Collymore, certainly gets a shot in and from distance too, there's something we don't have right now.

Looks good. I was getting impatient for another signing.

Hoping for Keane & Siggurdsson next and a clear indication of what Lukaku and Barkley are doing.

Brian Porter
52 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:32:19
My friends in Spain say this guy is the real deal and should score goals for fun. He could be another Lukaku but with a greater team ethic.

This is the one signing I've really been hoping for. Let's hope it all goes through and it will really make a statement of our intent. One friend describes him as 'a predator' and that's just what we need.

Dermot Byrne
54 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:35:59
William (#28) – you express my views much better than I can.

This has a proper business plan written all over it and fits well with the "project" talk Ronald Koeman has mentioned many times.

Must be weird to have such a plan and keep the details quiet as we fans react, understandably, according to the news/result or even 2nd half of the match that day. Maybe they decided to test Barkley and Lukaku and their skill and passion. No idea their conclusion.

If it was me, and I am famous for being unable to "hold my water", I would just yell "we have a plan!

Maybe that is why Mosh is a billionaire and lives in Monaco and I am sat in my garden on a sunny English day pretending I too live in his sunny world!

Hats off to our club

Paul Kossoff
55 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:36:02
William, it's in the Metro; supposedly they got the info from Alan Stubbs.
Lennart Hylën
56 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:42:04
Do not get overexited until he has signed. Remember 99,99999%
Dermot Byrne
57 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:45:59
As I waste time in my Cheshire Riviera, just a post from a RS forum (could have picked many)

"Another signing for @Everton: Sandro Ramirez is done & should be formally announced in 48 hours. He's passed a medical."

Not interested? Lol

Dave Lynch
58 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:48:56
Stubbs seems to know a lot about Barkley, didn't he have a hand in Rooney leaving?
Paul Thompson
59 Posted 17/06/2017 at 18:49:27
If confirmed, it caps a fantastic week for the club.

To pick up a few queries in the comments, it's simply too early to know whether this is an addition to Rom or (part of) a replacement. I think we can be sure that if it's the latter, the club will have other targets lined up.

I also think fans should stop doing the in-out sums. We don't know the budget – it's as simple as that.

What we do know is that for the first time in living memory the club is prepared to spend and spend big before any sales. That's enough for me, for the time being anyway.

Brent Stephens
60 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:00:16
I'll tune into Sky Sports 1 this evening to see if Sandro plays and how he performs. And then report to Walsh.
Dave Older
61 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:06:24
I was already in a state of shock about Pickford and Klaassen. If we manage to sign Sandro, then I think I might need a trip to my doctor's again for stronger Toffee tablets.

Seriously, 3 good quality transfers in a week is a bit much to comprehend. Love it!!!!!

Ajay Gopal
62 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:06:32
Apparently you can watch him live tonight when the Spain U21s play Macedonia or some such team.
Gavin Johnson
63 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:17:44
If Sandro's a direct replacement for Lukaku, it makes you wonder if they'll be a radical change in tactics. Sandro is 5ft-9in and not a target man. That said, Rom's never been much of a target man for a lad of his size and build.
Nitesh Kanchan
64 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:20:07
If true, then we have grabbed a big fish for peanuts just like Coleman. I follow La Liga as I support Atletico as well and for me, this guy can make huge impact against bus-parkers and in away games against so called big 6. This guy will be the difference between a draw and a win.

Those starting fixtures are crucial as those are against direct rivals. Considering that, we are doing just what the doctor ordered for.

Besides this, has there been any news from Walsh's Italian adventure? Keeping my fingers crossed on Keita to replace Rom.

Anthony Burke
65 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:20:28
Backed him for first goal tonight: 11/4... fingers crossed.
Geoff Lambert
66 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:24:26
Sandro will be signing on Wednesday after the U21 match with Portugal.

And Keane on Wednesday or Thursday.

Pete Owen
67 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:27:14
Geoff @64

Can you back that up at all, mate?

William Cartwright
68 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:36:47
Dermot, you have summed up eloquently what I was trying to say.

I posted earlier today about the rumour of Niang joining and like most I had reservations. That 'bullet' seems to have been dodged, as my brother in law, a Watford fan, was really confused as to how a player with such a big build an silky skill-set could only seem to want to play part-time when it suited him?

Ross is often accused of not fulfilling his potential, which I see as a bit different. Ross seems to need the situation and circumstances to be aligned just right in order to perform at his best level. Geri and Rom similar.

Tom Davies however seems to have the passion which drives you on, think of his goal against Man City? It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog is the expression that sums it up.

Looking at the YouTube clips of Sandro and his goals, plus hearing how he left Barcelona in search of playing opportunities, and getting a 'feel' for the quality and passion in his play is what seriously impresses me.

One of his you tube goal clips is sublime and makes the point. He starts the move with a clever swivel and chip on the by-line, still in his own half; feeds the player in front and runs like a robber's dog, couple of one two's, keeps going and makes the space for the return when the move was looking to break down, demands the return and finishes of with a reverse angle sweet finish.

In that move, which lasted about 7-10 seconds, he was only one player on the pitch you look at, focused completely on the goal and in control of his movement and others as well as the ball. That is what makes great players. Also he looks a nasty little bugger and a lot older than his years, which are also positives!

If we close the deal, then I really believe he and others around him with the right mentality and passion will achieve something next season. It's what Ronald wants from his pressing team and what Moshiri is paying for and expects from Ronald.

COYB.

Geoff Lambert
69 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:47:45
Pete! Yes mate.

Trying for Sandro tomorrow but it's Fathers Day so Wednesday is better.

John Graham
70 Posted 17/06/2017 at 19:59:14
Let it be true without any hold ups or hitches. Going to sleep for 48 hrs now and hopefully when I wake up I will all be done and dusted
Jamie Sweet
71 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:21:37
That YouTube compilation is certainly one of the more exciting, high octane ones I've seen for a while.

Atletico Madrid's recent Champions League record is two finals, one semi-final and one quarter-final in the last four seasons. They are a top top side and they wanted him. That speaks volumes about his potential worth to me. Could be the bargain of the century!

Lewis Barclay
72 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:22:00
Romelu who?
John Hammond
73 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:24:57
Great news if this is true. Three players in quick succession before the window is officially open. Unheard of for us!
Paul Birmingham
74 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:37:17
Proper footballer, hopefully he will wear our shirt soon.
Andrew Presly
75 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:46:02
Get your Stoke tickets! I'll see you behind the pole deep in the Lower Gwladys!
Anthony Hawkins
76 Posted 17/06/2017 at 20:54:36
Pickford
Coleman Keane Williams Baines
Klaassen Gueye Schneiderlin
Deulofeu Sandro Bolasie
Lukaku
Brian Williams
77 Posted 17/06/2017 at 21:11:18
Anthomy (#92).

Twelve players there, mate.

Mike Gaynes
78 Posted 17/06/2017 at 21:11:44
Anthony, that lineup should win every game, if the ref will allow it.

12 players.

Mike Gaynes
79 Posted 17/06/2017 at 21:14:17
And by the way... Deulofeu?

No way in the world Geri belongs on that list.

Mark Frere
80 Posted 17/06/2017 at 21:31:04
Mike, I think Deulofeu could still be a very good player for us. I haven't forgotten his excellent form when he first rejoined us for his second spell here.

He's an excellent crosser of the ball (far better than Bollasie) and I think he deserves one last chance... especially now we have all the extra Europa League games.

Colin Glassar
81 Posted 17/06/2017 at 21:40:32
There's talk that we will spend £100 - 150m this summer. Is this our real transfer kitty or is it the amount of money we are expecting to receive for Lukaku and Barkley? This could give us a net spend of £0M.

Or, could we be looking at a potential £200 to 300m warchest?

Don Alexander
82 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:14:00
YouTube CVs don't usually win me over but he seems to be another Spaniard who's familiar with the word "phenomenal", only this guy talks with his feet. Here's hoping.
Paul A Smith
83 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:30:44
I hope this turns out true of course. The kid has good potential and by the sounds of it he is keen to be always playing.

Another wish of mine is it gives Deulofeu more comfort having a Spanish team mate, and it becomes more of a competition to him.

If he could step it up for us, with Sandro linking up with him, we could have some real pace in attack throughout the Europa League games.

Nigel Johnson
84 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:34:39
Hey Guys, the thing to remember about Sandro is that both Steve and Koeman have watched him live. They must have a tick list that players must reach, and don't forget Koeman must have lots of contacts in Spain that he must have asked about the player.

I've just seen him on YouTube like most of us but he looks like he hass skills and has a good eye for goal and see's passes early when assisting. I think Everton will sign other strikers so don't worry.

We just need to sign a couple of centre-backs and I'll be happy. I still think we need a creative midfielder but sure Koeman and Walsh are aware of this. I think we will have at least 5 new players by the time pre-season starts.

Eric Owen
85 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:42:29
Just Watch!
Satisied?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap_iLm66b-U

He's wearing #19. Numbers 9 and 10 put together.

Geoff Lambert
86 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:44:39
The information I have is that Rom's only option is Chelsea, as he said he won't play under Jose again, so that's Man Utd out. Which only leaves Chelsea and they know it so are trying it on with the price.

What we need is someone else to enter the race so his price can rise to what we want.

Colin Metcalfe
87 Posted 17/06/2017 at 22:51:27
I am just loving this! This is so different from any previous transfer window that I can remember. If we do get Keane and Sigurdsson, I will truly be in Seventh Heaven!! COYB
Anthony Burke
88 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:00:35
Wasn't impressed but it's only 1 game. What I've seen otherwise, I give it the go-ahead. Welcome, Sandro! COYB!!!
Gordon Crawford
89 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:01:14
Rumour has it that he's signed and will be paraded tomorrow. Don't know if there is any truth in it.
Kunal Desai
90 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:02:21
Geoff – You're confident that Keane is signing next week too?
Geoff Lambert
91 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:08:51
Yes, Kunal, I've been speaking to someone today who should know.
Jamie Sweet
92 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:17:17
ITK's on Twitter backing up Geoff's comment that Keane could be ours next week.

I would normally take this all with a pinch of salt, but the same people were ahead of the media on Pickford and Klaassen, plus we really do look like we mean business this window.

Same source putting money on Sigurdsson signing for us too.

What a time to be alive!

Laurie Hartley
93 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:18:50
All I can say is – It's good this, isn't it?
Don Alexander
94 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:23:24
Geoff, please tell me you speak Dutch!
Brian Williams
95 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:23:38
I don't think we need anyone else to enter the competition for Lukaku to be honest. All the club needs to do is sit tight. If anyone is going to start sweating towards the end of the window, it's Chelsea not us, especially if we've got ample signings up front.

Bottom line from our point of view is that if they don't pay what we want he stays. With two years left on Lukaku's contract, Everton are in a very strong position!

Kunal Desai
96 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:28:27
Getting all our business done early with good signings being made but we'll all be glued to deadline day, hoping for someone to sign at midnight. Imagine waiting for the biggest signing then.

I reckon we'll go big perhaps.. £50 million or so on a James Rodriguez or Sergio Aguero, someone like that.

Bill, make sure you have got a new fax machine ready to go... with paper.

John Smith
97 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:38:33
Sandro said a couple of weeks back that he wanted to sort out his future before he returned to Spain U21 camp so the timing of this makes sense as that team just played.
Geoff Lambert
98 Posted 17/06/2017 at 23:58:51
Ha ha, Don, no Dutch, mate... but I can assure you my inside man is all the way up there.
Anthony Dwyer
99 Posted 17/06/2017 at 00:09:51
I'm trying to refrain from talking about incomplete transfers as we're often linked with many and sign none!

After last week I'm now a little more optimistic, making a 23-year-old keep our record deal, plus bringing in what appeared to be Koeman's main target has me believing more will follow.

Sandro is a no brained for us, he's young and promising, everything Kone isn't. Along with Kone leaving, we will more than likely lose all our other strikers, Niasse, Valencia and clearly Kone will be gone so a cheap deal for Sandro is a good one.

Rom will need replacing too, but with someone with more pedigree, its a shame Batshuayi moved to Lyon, but there's lots of other strikers around.

It's a tall order but if we can sign Michael Keane or a decent centre half, plus bring in a strong striker and Gylfi Sigurdsson or someone similar, we can afford to lose Rom and Ross and IMO it will mean we've improved.

Mike Berry
100 Posted 18/06/2017 at 00:21:42
I have a feeling that, when they do the "wash up" meeting of the summer transfer window and they look back, this could be the best deal struck.
Phil Jeffries
101 Posted 18/06/2017 at 01:24:34
This is the biggest deal of the summer for us. If we pull this off, it is a huge transfer. At that amount of money, it's not even a gamble. Power, pace, attitude and right up Koeman's street. Let's hope it's not the same as last Monday... COYB!
James Watts
102 Posted 18/06/2017 at 02:51:42
This one really gets me excited. He seems to have everything. if this one goes through, I'm defo jumping on the 'Moshiri is a god' bandwagon.

Penny for Rom's & Ross's thoughts right now.

Rob Hignett
103 Posted 18/06/2017 at 02:51:44
Fantastic signing – could be our best of the transfer window. In St Lucia at the moment and the news keeps getting better – even the wife is excited.
Ernie Baywood
104 Posted 18/06/2017 at 03:45:49
That's an exciting highlights reel. If we assume that Klaassen and Sandro both play then I'm wondering what that means for Rom, regardless of what he might want to do.

Last season everything went through Rom and when it didn't work we were shite. I can't see him in a team with these guys.

And with a change in style we may well have already replaced his goals... remembering that no other player managed to crack the 5 barrier in the league last season.

Brian Porter
105 Posted 18/06/2017 at 07:05:36
Anthony Dwyer, while I usually agree with most of your points, I don't agree that Sandro can't be Rom's replacement. He's young, has a great goals to games ratio, is a hard working TEAM player and could be our next Number 9 for some years to come if we can get him and hold on to him when others come sniffing around.

Of course, keeping him shouldn't be a problem if the team goes on to challenge for honours and a top four place. Lukaku was only 21 when he joined us, the same as Sandro is now.

Sandro has scored at a phenomenal rate when you consider Malaga are not one of the top six in Spain. With the right service he could easily be up there with Lukaku in terms of goals scored, plus, he also runs and runs and works for the team and doesn't just wait for others to create his chances for him. Get him in, please, Everton.

Rob Baker
106 Posted 18/06/2017 at 07:20:46
Sandro is my son and mine's new favourite Everton player as he will sign imminently. 3 quality signings in, more to come no doubt and Ross's & Rom's futures to be decided with replacements probably already identified.
Bob Parrington
107 Posted 18/06/2017 at 07:38:47
Is Sandro telling fibs about his date of birth? He looks a lot older than 21, doesn't he?

Great buy for Everton!

Andy Amey
108 Posted 18/06/2017 at 07:41:34
Are you his dad then, Rob (#106)?
Thomas Surgenor
109 Posted 18/06/2017 at 09:20:33
That's one of the better highlight reels that I've seen. Up there with James McFaddens!

However, my only negative is that he looks so one footed it's beyond belief.
I see him more as an upgrade to Kevin Mirllas (who I like) than a replacement for Lukaku.

With that in mind, he still looks a very exciting prospect and I really hope we get this one over the line! Have we found our new dead ball specialist?

Len Hawkins
110 Posted 18/06/2017 at 09:23:21
Can I categorically deny that this branch of the Hawkins family does not give 3 x £5 for a £10 note. But will give 3 x £5 for a £20 note.
Thomas Surgenor
111 Posted 18/06/2017 at 09:24:53
Watching the video again and you could be forgiven for thinking it was a David Villa highlight reel. Exciting times if we get this one across the line.
Drew O'Neall
112 Posted 18/06/2017 at 09:24:59
I hope this guy isn't a one season wonder, playing for a big move.

This isn't baseless Evertonian skepticism, I'm basing it on the fact he had a £5.2m release fee.

He would only have a release that low if he considered Malaga a stepping stone, perhaps because he wasn't paid as well as he thought he deserved or because he wanted a bigger club but in either case I hope he is bought in and isn't another who believes he is destined for 'better' than the blues.

Terry Farrell
113 Posted 18/06/2017 at 09:40:10
On business and a work pal is a massive Chelsea fan, confirms through Cahill that Rom is nailed on to sign for them. Also confirmed Costa is finished at Chelsea. He was at the players end of season do. He's not convinced Rom will cut it.
Lewis Barclay
114 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:01:59
Next year is a World Cup year. This probably complicates the Lukaku situation a bit I think! We don't need to sell and he can hardly afford to protest by not playing or being (even more) lazy.

I think we can try it on with price for Lukaku (£100m no less) until January and see where we are.

Colin Glassar
115 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:09:20
Now that the world media has latched on to the fact that we have a few quid to spend, we are being linked to virtually every Tom, Dick and Harry out there. Laughable really.
Derek Knox
116 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:15:56
Colin @115

Who do Tom, Dick and Harry play for, and would they be willing to Sell?

Colin Glassar
117 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:27:31
As long as it's not Tom Cruise, Dick Emery and Harry Enfield, I don't really care, Derek.
Bob Parrington
118 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:27:51
Derek (#115),

Harry plays for Spurs, Tom plays for somebody else (common name) and Dick is the Head of the RS, as far as I know!

It's great to be an Evertonian just now, eh? Ahead of the game in signing players. Who'd ever thought this might be the case even 1 or 2 years ago?

I like the thought of Koeman saying, behind closed doors, "Billy, I don't give a fuck what you think, we need players that commit to Everton and Rom and Ross don't. So let's just get on with it and piss them off. Get real!!"

Jon Withey
119 Posted 18/06/2017 at 10:46:53
Hits the post too much for my liking.

Seriously, looks like he could be a handful and he can take free kicks.

Graham Coldron
120 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:13:12
All this reminds me of when Blackburn appointed Dog Leash and all of a sudden they started signing players of real quality as opposed to assorted lower league journeymen.

Once word spreads that Everton are now a serious proposition, more quality will arrive.

Graham Coldron
121 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:13:12
All this reminds me of when Blackburn appointed Dog Leash and all of a sudden they started signing players of real quality as opposed to assorted lower league journeymen. Once word spreads that Everton are now a serious proposition more quality will arrive.
Eric Paul
122 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:20:13
I can't help thinking this is the type of player that would bring out the best in Ross.
Jim Potter
123 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:37:25
Okay, it's only a highlights reel – but Sandro seems to have pace, strength, a great first touch and is a very good finisher (albeit with seemingly just his right foot).

He also appeared to be unselfish when others were better situated to score (then they missed).

For £5 mil, it's a no-brainer.

Chris James
124 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:45:21
Just going to agree with Jim – appreciate it's a selective reel, but the things that stick out for me is that he has real touch and skill on the ball (genuine change from Lukaku), plus passing vision and ability to finish from a range of positions.

I can easily see him playing alongside or behind someone who's a target man or even the attacking midfield position.

Mark Morrissey
125 Posted 18/06/2017 at 11:59:06
Did he play for Spain's U21s last night? I didn't see the game, albeit I know they won easily?
Graham Holliday
126 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:01:12
Anthony (#99) – unless I've missed something, Batshuayi is still a Chelsea player? Where did you get that he's moved to Lyon?
Laurie Hartley
127 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:03:19
Chris (#125) – I think you have nailed it with your comment about him playing with a target man.

I've got a feeling that's the Koeman plan. Perhaps we'll find out next week.

Tom Bowers
128 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:17:50
Sandro looks a decent buy for the fee. He is smallish but quick and Koeman will probably use him as a ''Vardy'' type player.

Fascinating to see how this pans out with the Rom saga still continuing but changing the plan of attack would be welcome.

Ian Bennett
129 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:21:31
I see West Ham are in for Giroud. If he was prepared to leave London, he'd be a great buy. I would still be in for Batshuayi in any deal for Lukaku.
Matthew Williams
130 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:44:09
Transfers are like buses at our club, but at least it looks like we mean business. I ain't seen much of the lad but he Is rated very highly across Europe and it's just great to read post after post from my fellow Blues, who now can't wait for the new season.

Jeez... even the new home shirt is starting to look good!

Sam Hoare
131 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:46:02
Ian, many will disagree but I think Giroud is underrated. He needs to have quick players around him (as with France) but he is intelligent, links play very well and will get goals. Not sure he'd be my first choice but I think he'd be a lot better than many would expect.

Batshuayi seems the best fit. An out and out goal scorer who is has better movement and mobility than Rom, if not the strength and power. He's not had much of a chance at Chelsea and needs to be first choice next year if he's to have any chance of ousting Romelu for the World Cup.

David Price
132 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:53:06
Now where does that leave Ross?? I think he's made a big mistake, along with Lukaku – both of them have shown what they think of our so-called lack of ambition. Add in Gylfi and another centre-half and we will be sorted.

It's great to be a blue at the moment. Ronald is bringing in real talent who are on long-term deals. COYB!!!

Gavin Johnson
133 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:55:10
Has Giroud's contract expired or has he been made surplus to requirements at Arsenal?? I just wondered because his name keeps getting mentioned like he's a realistic target this summer.
George Stuart
134 Posted 18/06/2017 at 12:55:19
I watched the Sandro video reel. Not the best evidence I admit, but he seemed cool under pressure. A quality oftentimes missing from even professional footballers.
Jim Knightley
135 Posted 18/06/2017 at 13:05:51
I think Giroud is being linked away because of Arsenal's rumoured interest in a series of top strikers. I'd take him at Everton.

He is a goalscorer and technically gifted. His pace is lacking but he will deliver 15-20 league goals if he starts every game. Someone like him alongside a young striker (Sandro) could work well.

Rumours that we are interested in Dembele too, who would correspond with our clear desire to invest in younger players. He is really talented with lots of potential although I feel that he is a couple of years away from being a consistent goal scorer in a league as competitive as the Premier League.

Giroud –£20mil? Dembele – £30mil? And sell Lukaku for £70mil.

Mark Frere
136 Posted 18/06/2017 at 14:23:43
I like Giroud but he will be 31 soon. I know he's never been about pace but I would prefer we went after younger hungry players.

I've always liked the look of Iheanacho, who is well down the pecking order at Man City.

Eugene Ruane
137 Posted 18/06/2017 at 14:27:28
Bill: "What about the pale green shirt with the dark green tie and the cream linen jacket?"

Elstone: "Mmmm...it's a bit 1980s ITV newsreader...maybe i'll go with a dark suit, white shirt but no tie - it says 'serious but not a square'."

Bill: "Why not something in the middle - light cotton navy blue suit, WITH a tie but a tie that's kinda fun. Something that says 'Hey, guys, we've something to say, sure. But ultimately we're in the entertainment business so..."

Unless there's 48 hours of this happening, what does 'set to announce' mean?

Steven Jones
138 Posted 18/06/2017 at 14:27:58
Jim – I like it!

Think Dembele is a really good call; Giroud is less likely – but entirely possible.

Lookman on left, Dembele down the middle, Sandro on right in a 4-3-3. That has great potential – speed, skill and attitude.

With Kone et al exiting and Europa League plus real top 6 intent, we will need a few more, so expect four forwards in total being signed. Then two midfielder, one centre-back and one full-back, bringing it to eight first-teamers in. Two down, six to come.

Mark Morrissey
139 Posted 18/06/2017 at 15:23:44
Perhaps the plan is to play Ramirez alongside Rom. Early signings are a promise to Rom?
Colin Glassar
140 Posted 18/06/2017 at 15:46:39
Mark, as much as we might like these players, I'm sure Rom is not jumping out of his seat. They are all good players, with the potential to become great, but they are not the top-of-the-range players he probably thinks he should be playing alongside.

He probably wants an Aguero or a Verrati, players of that ilk – not some kid from Sunderland or a relatively unknown player from Spain.

Not that I'm bothered what he thinks tbh. If he wants to stay, great! If not, well £85m min and ciao.

Dermot Byrne
141 Posted 18/06/2017 at 16:11:06
Dembele. Hear a lot about him but has he done much outside the Scottish league? I don't know...
Jack Cross
142 Posted 18/06/2017 at 16:23:11
Sandro, signed going by Sky.
Dermot O'Brien
143 Posted 18/06/2017 at 16:53:26
Haha, brilliant, Eugene (#137). Did you ever write for The Fast Show?
Don Alexander
144 Posted 18/06/2017 at 17:15:42
The word in the title was "hope" Eugene, not "set" to announce. Just saying, as you do.
Roman Sidey
145 Posted 18/06/2017 at 17:43:23
With a new keeper, central (attacking) midfielder, and forward, we really only need to address the left-back and right-back positions as well as replace any outgoing players like for like – Lukaku, Barkley etc.

Baines needs replacing, not reinforcing, and we need a decent right-back to cover for/replace Coleman, who is closing in on the 30-year-old mark in the next year or so, and coming back from an injury he may not fully recover from.

John Audsley
146 Posted 18/06/2017 at 18:04:07
I think the right-back position is totally fine. We have 4 blokes who can play and that's more than enough.

Left-back will need looking at sooner rather than later though.

Jeff Armstrong
147 Posted 18/06/2017 at 18:56:14
Regarding the left back position, I read today that Robertson might be going from Hull to Burnley. I think he'd be an excellent replacement for Baines, who, to be honest, looks way past his best.
Eugene Ruane
148 Posted 18/06/2017 at 19:10:07
Don (#144) – 'The word in the title was "hope" Eugene, not "set" to announce. Just saying, as you do'

You're right that is what is says...now!

Kristian Boyce
149 Posted 18/06/2017 at 20:20:29
If you went back 4-5 years and said we would have 2 of the better players in the Spain U21s on our books, I think most of us wouldn't believe it.

With the quality of players under 23 on our books, it would be fair to say that we are in the top five teams in Europe with players that age.

The Sandro deal is an absolute bargain when you think of transfer fees this year. This is probably the equivalent of paying £500k 2 years ago. Heck, Kone was £6m 4 years ago!!

David Currie
150 Posted 18/06/2017 at 22:38:12
Sandro would be a great signing – another young and hungry player.

No to Giroud – too old and no pace, we want freshness and not players looking for a last big fat contract. Keane next and a new left back is a must.

Get rid of Barry, Williams, Jagielka, Stekelenburg, Niasse, Pennington. None of these are good enough to play for EFC.

Colin Glassar
151 Posted 18/06/2017 at 22:50:28
I'm intrigued to see what our playing style is going to be like this season. A mix of Roberto's attacking elan and Dour Dave's defensive prowess? That's been the missing element over the last 30 years.
Paul Birmingham
152 Posted 18/06/2017 at 23:53:00
Soon, the solid dies cast for ins and outs in terms of EFC team building and transfer policy will be known. Happy Days, hopefully. No player is better or bigger than EFC.

Deffo the best preseason of optimism and hope for years... but this is Everton... this time the club seems very serious.

Is right as no time now, the squad will need to bed in, in very little time.

What's Our Name?

Albert Perkins
153 Posted 19/06/2017 at 00:43:40
Dembele now. I would put every penny from Lukaku on him. And more, if need be.
Gary Hughes
154 Posted 19/06/2017 at 01:04:42
I loved how Sky Sports reported this. They showed a clip of him slamming a free kick into a wall then hitting the rebound home via a wicked deflection. I have absolutely no idea what statement they were trying to make but it appears that they dug out the worst possible footage they could find.
John Smith
155 Posted 19/06/2017 at 01:22:57
Klaassen and Sandro together on the same pitch will be pain for all other clubs.
Si Cooper
156 Posted 19/06/2017 at 01:54:05
I know very little about Sandro but now I'm desperate for him to sign. Pre-season doesn't half mess with your head!
Gavin Johnson
157 Posted 19/06/2017 at 03:14:44
Colin,

I think we've already seen how a mix of dour Davie's defensive side mixed with Martinez's flair worked in the first season under Martinez. Great times until Roberto forgot his pledge when he took the job – that he wouldn't make changes for the sake of it and would only build on the good things we had.

I think the well drilled defensive play under Moyes had been coached out of them by the end of the season when we lost to Saints and Palace.

It looks like it's going to be great times again this season. I actually can't remember a time I've been so optimistic and looking forward to the new season.

Mark Andersson
158 Posted 19/06/2017 at 03:35:32
Happy that so many on TW seem optimistic for the new season. Once big flappy arms has gone, I will feel the same..

I don't get why Ross has not singed up... I can't see him getting much game time if he leaves for a so-called bigger team... He also won't be doing his England career any good. Then again, who wants to be part of that crap set-up?

John Pierce
159 Posted 19/06/2017 at 04:40:55
Footage to date limits my expectation on the fella.

However the price is irresistible for a player that age and with a reasonable record at U21 level for Spain.

Hopefully but far from a slam dunk. Keane and Sigurdson would be very good and maybe something spectacular should we sell Rom.

Anthony Dwyer
160 Posted 19/06/2017 at 08:40:25
Brian (#105);

Cheers for your response, mate, and although I said I'm not sure about Sandro replacing Rom, I'm not completely writing his chances off, I'm more so just saying Rom's 26 goals is a tall order for a lad so young and inexperienced within our league.

I'd be buzzing if we had nicked a replacement for Rom for that money but, with Kone, McAleny, Valencia all gone and Rom and Niasse very likely to follow, I'd say we need more strikers.

I myself would be happy with Giroud, he's a proven 15-goal-a-season Premier League man, but again there's plenty of others out there.

Iheanacho would be my number one priority, and would only cost around £20m, he could massively lighten the load on Sandro.

One I'm not convinced about is Dembele at Celtic, mainly because there league is utter shite.

Denver Daniels
161 Posted 19/06/2017 at 09:16:02
This seems to be dragging on a bit. I hope this doesn't go tits up but it feels a bit like a Manny Fernandes debacle in the making.
Colin Glassar
162 Posted 19/06/2017 at 09:23:14
He's away on international duty, Denver. I imagine we're waiting for him to grab an EasyJet flight to Liverpool.
Dave Abrahams
163 Posted 19/06/2017 at 09:24:07
Denver (#161), have a bit of patience.

As for Fernandes we were lucky to miss that one: another one with loads of talent but very lazy bones and thought he was better than he was.

Denver Daniels
164 Posted 19/06/2017 at 09:38:38
Colin, Dave. This ain't my first rodeo. As you well know, things don't always go according to plan as far as Everton is concerned. I hope we can get this one over the line asap before Spurs or Arsenal decide to step in.
Martin Faulkner
165 Posted 19/06/2017 at 09:53:23
Anthony, not having a go mate but didn't Van Dijk play in that utter shite league for a bit? Wish we had signed him when he was available, a lot of people on here said he'd make the transition but there was a lot of people saying yeah but the league's shit he'll never make it in the Premier League and so on.

I think some very good players have played and learnt a thing or two up there. Don't write them all off, that also goes for the so called lesser Dutch and Belgian leagues as well. I think he's stood out and has enough skill, speed and footballing brain to cut it anywhere as he matures.

Des Farren
166 Posted 19/06/2017 at 13:45:41
Sandro is obviously not as pacey as we have assumed. And we have assumed a lot.
Bob Butchard
167 Posted 19/06/2017 at 13:56:51
I stood in the Boys' Pen and watched my first match in 1950, I can still recall the excitement in the great stadium. There have been some great times in the 67 years since then with wonderful memories of successes, and for me, memorable players who made those triumphs happen.

Taking the highs and lows both on and off the park into account, I can't remember a time when I've felt the excitement of expectation as much as I do right now. The quality of the squad being built is awesome! I pinch myself every time a new player is unveiled, after so many years of disappointing wheeling and dealing in the market.

At last there will be a strong group to nurture the wealth of great young talent coming through the Academy, a great look for the future of the club.

Mike Gaynes
168 Posted 19/06/2017 at 14:55:00
Gary (#154), don't take that to heart. Being a former television sports guy myself, I can tell you exactly how it probably worked.

The producer told the video intern to find a clip of Sandro for the story. The intern pulled up a computerized database of Sandro video and clicked on the entry of his most recent goal, and it was automatically pulled out of the video library and inserted into the show. I doubt anybody even looked at it before it aired.

Tony Abrahams
169 Posted 19/06/2017 at 15:18:51
It seems to be the latest rumour, Albert @153, let's just hope it's true!
Raymond Fox
170 Posted 19/06/2017 at 15:25:13
Putting on my 'Doubting Thomas' hat, if this guy is such a bargain, why aren't there a host of other clubs vying to sign him?

If he is indeed a quality player, we need to get his signature on paper double quick.

Gerry Quinn
171 Posted 19/06/2017 at 15:35:57
Raymond, I wonder if anyone said the same about Kante going to Leicester, or Gueye signing for Everton... maybe our Mr Steve Walsh sees a bargain quicker than them?
Phil Walling
172 Posted 19/06/2017 at 15:51:06
Bob @ 167, you have barely 10 years on me as an 'attending Evertonian' but I don't share your feeling of excitement at the present situation. For every star signing, there will be a young prospect denied a place and, no doubt, the likes of Davies and Holgate will be back on the benches at best!

'Awsome' you call it – and you were about in the days of The Catt and Kendall. Really?

Terry White
173 Posted 19/06/2017 at 16:06:16
Phil (#173), "For every star signing, there will be a young prospect denied a place". Are you saying you would like us to start last season's U-23s as our first choice XI in the coming season? Sounds to me as if that is what you are saying.

Time to be realistic, Phil. It's been this way since time began, or at least football began. A "young PROSPECT" capitals intentional, is just that - someone (a "prospect") who would undoubtedly benefit from playing experience at a higher level but an experienced player will almost certainly get the nod.

Did you complain when we signed Young, Vernon, Wilson, Ball and all the great players from the '60s because in doing so we halted the development of a "young prospect"? For every Colin Harvey there is a Gary Lineker. How do you think our team will fare next season with a team of youngsters?

I yearn for the days of the late 50s and early 60s when the first you knew about a new signing was the Echo placard with the words, "New Everton signing". It seemed to be happening every week. None of this media speculation fuelling the fans frenzy.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to see our youngsters come through and establish their places in the team. We all know that it's only going to happen in a very few cases. I think this is a more pragmatic way to look at it.

Brent Stephens
174 Posted 19/06/2017 at 16:44:07
"No doubt the likes of Davies and Holgate will be back on the benches at best!"

Phil, you do write some drivel at times. I see no reason at all for that pessimism. Apologise now, sir! And I'll apologise when either of them goes!

John Smith
175 Posted 19/06/2017 at 17:06:36
Sandro is clinical in front of goal. Look at how calm he is scoring against his old club (Barca). HD link to goal below.

Colin Glassar
176 Posted 19/06/2017 at 18:53:09
Was that Ronald commentating John? Phil, I'm glad my old ticker is still in good nick because the day you show some optimism .
Jon Cox
177 Posted 19/06/2017 at 18:55:04
48hrs

Anyone else seen this film before?

Mike Gaynes
178 Posted 19/06/2017 at 18:59:21
Phil Walling, love ya man, but tell me... when your primary school class put on Winnie-The-Pooh, you played Eeyore, didn't you? And your favorite of the Seven Dwarfs was Grumpy, right?

Jon Cox
179 Posted 19/06/2017 at 19:04:55
Mike he may have a problem there because did you know that the 7 dwarfs were all in bed feeling Happy until happy got out so they all felt Grumpy..

just saying like

Colin Glassar
180 Posted 19/06/2017 at 19:11:18
Phil and Darren, keeping it real.
Colin Metcalfe
181 Posted 19/06/2017 at 19:30:42
Just watching a repeat of Malaga v Real Madrid and our new boy has got some shot on him and can take a free kic. I'm very exited to this kid play in a blue shirt.
Dermot Byrne
182 Posted 19/06/2017 at 19:40:14
Agree Phil W. I remember being so annoyed when the Blues bought Kendall and Ball and those promising youngsters could not show they were better. That midfield may have been good but disgraceful management.
Raymond Fox
183 Posted 19/06/2017 at 19:52:46
It wouldn't be the same without good old Phil.

I can just see him now muttering at his computer, "This'll wind 'em up, he he."

Anthony Dwyer
184 Posted 19/06/2017 at 21:29:56
Martin (#165);

You're right, I said the same thing about Van Dijk too and clearly I got that one wrong!

If Koeman and Walsh want Dembele, then I'm on board; it's just a thought process that you can't really judge a player in that league – especially when you are aware that Hartson and Sutton hit 20+ a season for years up there.

Jon Cox
185 Posted 19/06/2017 at 21:50:50
Have we signed Sandro yet, or are you guys gonna talk rubbish for ever and a day.

Everton said 48 hours – it seems like 532.

Come on, Everton, we need a striker like yesterday. Move yer arse an' get it sorted.

I say we will not be beholden to any player. He will never be bigger than us.

Jon Cox
186 Posted 19/06/2017 at 21:57:39
Sorry, guys, I just get the feeling that Sandro is the same player that we sign every season but never get!
Geoff Lambert
187 Posted 19/06/2017 at 23:28:11
Wednesday boys, calm down calm down.
John Mckay
188 Posted 19/06/2017 at 23:32:17
Have we signed this guy yet? Papers saying he's incoming.
People on here talking like he is already our player?
Haven't seen anywhere that he has actually signed?
Jay Harris
189 Posted 19/06/2017 at 23:36:54
John,

Rumour has it that he has agreed personal terms, passed his medical, but didn't want to do the official signing until after the U21 tournament.

As always, wait until you see him in an Everton shirt.

Gordon Crawford
190 Posted 19/06/2017 at 23:40:11
I hope this guy is not trying to turn heads at this tournament so that other clubs will come in and snap him up.
Brian Williams
192 Posted 20/06/2017 at 00:24:09
He's doing exactly that Gordon, and why wouldn't he?
Gordon Crawford
193 Posted 20/06/2017 at 00:51:59
It is all hypothetical, but you would like to think that he will sign for us and not leave us hanging at the last minute. I'm just hoping, Brian, that there is some sort of gentleman's agreement. I remember the days when a handshake in business meant something. But who knows, he could be busting to sign. :)
Dave Abrahams
194 Posted 20/06/2017 at 00:59:48
Phil (#172), you are saying now that for every star signing they will be denying a young player a chance, didn't you say not long ago that for all the youngsters coming through, not many will make it.

Which is it? Do you like young players to make the grade coming through the ranks at Everton, or do you like the club to go out and buy young players from other clubs, or to be honest, Phil, do you like anyone, anywhere at any time?

It's nearly one o'clock in the morning, I've not long come in, had a good few, I'm making sense to myself but maybe not to many on here, is it me or does Phil drive everyone a bit round the twist?

Dan Davies
195 Posted 20/06/2017 at 01:21:01
Don't tempt me, Dave. I believe he is 'the' biggest wind-up on TW by far. If he's not on the wind-up, words fail me.
John Smith
196 Posted 20/06/2017 at 03:17:50
He's listed on wikipedia as a forward for Everton FC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandro_Ram%C3%ADrez

Brian Porter
197 Posted 20/06/2017 at 07:03:21
Anthony Dwyer (#160), thanks for elaborating on your earlier post.

While it might seem a tall order for Sandro to take Rom's place, I wouldn't expect him to directly replace him in terms of actual goals scored, but see him as scoring and making goals for those around him, something Rom has been pretty woeful in terms of his overall team play.

Sandro will also bring something new to the team in that he is a winner. He already has winners medals in the Champions League, La Liga, and the Copa del Rey – something Lukaku wants but will probably never have. Sandro is three years younger than Rom, a bit like the Lukaku who went to West Brom and did so well.

I have a feeling that if nothing happens to upset this move, he could turn out to be a real asset and a crowd-pleaser for years to come. I certainly wouldn't hesitate to give him the Number 9 shirt.

Time, as they say, will tell.

Tony Abrahams
198 Posted 20/06/2017 at 07:42:15
You haven't half gone miserable since you went to live in Greece, Phil, maybe you're missing going the match!
Ray Roche
199 Posted 20/06/2017 at 08:01:30
Dave (#194),

When you've dragged your bladdered carcass in at one o'clock in the morning with a belly full of brown bitter, there are two things you should never do:

One is to go onto YouTube or Amazon and listen to music, which is why I've got the Bee Gees Greatest Hits and a crap Sixties compilation in my collection.

The other is to post on ToffeeWeb and get into a discussion with Phil or Darren. I thought you'd know better.

Dave Abrahams
200 Posted 20/06/2017 at 09:21:08
Ray (199)... ah, brown bitter, those were the days, been on bitter lately and sadly at my age after three pints you do not retain much of what you drink – for every pint, there's a Jimmie Riddle.

But you are correct over Phil: he means well and is a good Blue but doesn't half moan about our team.

With Darren, I agree with most of what he says so don't have much problem with his point of view; however I'm hoping he is wrong about Koeman. Things look to be on the up at Goodison and going into Bramley-Moore...

Brent Stephens
201 Posted 20/06/2017 at 09:26:38
Brown mixed man myself. Few places you can get it now.
Phil Bellis
202 Posted 20/06/2017 at 09:41:01
May I add, Ray, a third, from bitter experience... eBay.
Steven Jones
203 Posted 20/06/2017 at 09:45:06
Thing about Dembele is that he is so young. There is loads of development and looking at the way he plays he is so calm and class on the ball – sign of a great player in the making. Also a winner taking and closing so many penalties as well...

He will step up if given the chance and he has areas to improve and work on – but all natural at 20 years of age! He has also had experience living away from home – first Fulham now Glasgow – and that helps mature a person. He obviously focuses on his career and has bags of confidence. Big plus for me.

Get 3 or 4 talented, athletic, productive strikers with winners' mentality and we will have a good mix for 2017-18.

Ian Hollingworth
204 Posted 20/06/2017 at 10:17:58
Christ, Everton – what is the matter with you?

It's been days since we signed a first team player... get a move on and show some ambition, FFS.

[Tee hee...]

David Midgley
205 Posted 20/06/2017 at 10:19:53
Dave (#200).

Jimmy Riddle... forward? Attacking mid?

Any videos?

Paul Tran
206 Posted 20/06/2017 at 11:08:04
I'd buy Dembele, especially if Lukaku goes. He'll score goals. He's impressed me and before we were reported as being interested, Celtic mates of mine were raving about him.

Regardless of your view of that league, a good player is a good player, like Van Dijk, Wanyama, Forster, Robertson. Worst case scenario will be the profit we make when we sell him.

John Hughes
207 Posted 20/06/2017 at 11:38:34
I imagine you can still get a pint of brown bitter in the Bramley-Moore, Dave!
Thomas Surgenor
208 Posted 20/06/2017 at 11:58:17
Paul (#206).

There will be no potential profit in the deal for Everton as Celtic want crazy money for him.

I know he is a little older and more developed now but he didn't exactly fire them in from everywhere at Fulham. I also remember, we were linked with him in Martinez days.

I just think there are better options out there at the money quoted (north of £40m).


Andrew Ellams
209 Posted 20/06/2017 at 12:08:41
The profit in players isn't just down to buying and selling values. The increased revenues for finishing higher in the league, being shown more on TV and ultimately Champions League revenues all come from buying better quality players.
John Keating
210 Posted 20/06/2017 at 12:32:23
Paul (#206),

Sorry, mate – I have to agree with Thomas (#208). Over-rated, extremely over-priced, and not even the most prolific goalscorer at Celtic!

Paul Tran
211 Posted 20/06/2017 at 12:34:51
Thomas, the papers up here in Scotland are quoting £25-30m. If we buy him, he'll get goals and will be value. I'd rather buy him than Pietro Neverheardofhim from Italy. If we end up selling him, I think it will be for plenty more.
David Graves
212 Posted 20/06/2017 at 12:49:56
John, I thought he was the top scorer at Celtic last season. Is that not the case?
Dave Abrahams
213 Posted 20/06/2017 at 13:06:08
David (#205), he's a striker and a midfield player? After 11:00 pm, I can usually see two of everything!!!
Colin Glassar
214 Posted 20/06/2017 at 13:35:19
Dembele is one of the best young strikers in Europe. Him and Sandro up top would be a lethal combination.
Sam Hoare
215 Posted 20/06/2017 at 13:38:37
Dembele looks a decent player but not a lot more than that, currently to my eyes. Even in his highlight reels he spends a lot of time running straight into defenders. Not very good defenders at that.

£30m+ is a lot to spend on potential that has only been shown in the Scottish Premier League. Worth bearing in mind that Scott Sinclair got more goals and assists for Celtic than Dembele last year; would people be happy spending that wedge on him?

Personally, I'd rather go for Batshuayi who's only a few years older but has scored goals in a tougher league and represents much less of a risk for probably a similar price. Other than that there don't seem a lot of strikers (in our bracket) around.

Dolberg and Iheanacho look interesting but risky like Dembele. Giroud and Bacca might be two more experienced and reliable goalscorers. Other than that, I can't see too many obvious fits with strikers likely to get the 15+ goals we might need to replace Lukaku.

Tom Bowers
216 Posted 20/06/2017 at 13:50:34
I am sure some of the existing, aging servants will be let go in due course – if not of their own volition when they find they cannot get a starting role. The likes of Barry, Baines, Williams and unfortunately Jags. who has been tremendous over the years but these players are all a yard slower physically and mentally in my opinion.

Others aforementioned such as Niasse and Pennington are players who may yet figure in some way depending on who else Koeman brings in. Certainly another striker if Rom. goes which seems certain to play with Sandro and Bolasie when he is fit.

Mirallas is average and will not have a starting role often but some of the youngsters will be chomping at the bit to secure places. Let's not get carried away with Dembele if the cost is too high as scoring in the Scottish Premier League is not to be compared with the premier leagues of Europe.

Steavey Buckley
217 Posted 20/06/2017 at 14:08:25
Everton's transfer dealings at the moment are not in Everton's best interests until the futures of Lukaku and Barkley are made clear. Koeman wants £150 million for the pair, that type of money makes a big difference who Everton can buy.
Jim Knightley
218 Posted 20/06/2017 at 14:08:25
All the comments about Scotland being an easy league are fair – I'd personally argue that is closer in general to League one standard than Championship standard at the moment. It's something I would worry about.

That said, Dembele is 20 – what more is a 20 year old expected to do, than score 32 goals in 48 games for Celtic? He also managed 15 in the Championship as a 19 year old. He is clearly a talent with huge potential, and that will cost £30mil in this market. As potentially available younger strikers go, I'd consider Dembele and Dolberg, and Iheanacho too.

It's right to say that the Scottish Premier League is of a lower standard, but it's also not sensible to write a player off just because he plays at that standard. Some great players have come from the Scottish league, and plenty from supposedly weaker Dutch leagues too.

With Dembele we'd need to be patient, much like with Pickford, but the aggressive targeting of youngsters who can contribute now and grow into potentially world class players is something I'm utterly behind. It's the only way we can bridge a gap marked by wage and budget disparity.

Paul Tran
219 Posted 20/06/2017 at 14:10:28
Dembele was Celtic's top scorer last season. He also bagged goals in the Champions League, where he looked perfectly at home.

Of course he would be a gamble, no more than the many Italian/Spanish guys we've been linked with.

As long as we bring in two decent, mobile goalscoring strikers, I'll be happy!

Kristian Boyce
220 Posted 20/06/2017 at 14:31:34
I think most Scottish fans would say the league isn't great, but Dembele stood out. Like others had said, there's been some gems from that league over the years and I think he would be one of them.

I remember seeing him a few years back when Fulham were in the Premier League, and thought he stood out then. He was 17 at the time and showed some class at that age.

I think that there's quite a bit of criticism about him as he plays in a weaker league. When he left Fulham at the end of his contract there was a raft of Premier League and international teams interested in him, including us.

Rodgers had been following him for years with Liverpool and took the opportunity to bring him to Celtic. While some might think it a strange choice, it was pretty sensible on his behalf. He was going to score a lot of goals, which can boost his confidence, while also playing regularly in the Champs League.

Also, while this may not be a huge factor, he was able to win the league, which may not mean much but imagine some players would want some silverware to show their kids when they retire.

Celtic gave him the opportunity of first team football and allowed him to develop. More than likely if he had gone to a Premier League team last year, he would have to make do with the U23s and a handful of Premier League starts.

Brian Cleveland
221 Posted 20/06/2017 at 14:33:29
Given that Spain are playing today, I think his mind will be (rightly) on that rather than signing on the dotted line, so I wouldn't expect any announcement today, unless it comes late on after the game, but more likely another day.
Brian Williams
222 Posted 20/06/2017 at 15:09:55
Kristian. I agree regarding the Scottish Premier League but have to say, IMO, Celtic would beat us and a couple of teams that finished above us this season too.
David Harrison
223 Posted 20/06/2017 at 15:11:31
"Signing in the next 48 hours" is beginning to smell like "99.9999% certain to sign."
John Keating
224 Posted 20/06/2017 at 15:22:01
David (#212),

Yes he was the leading scorer last season but as I say not the most prolific. Leigh Griffiths was the most prolific, he missed a lot of the season but more prolific.

I'm not for one minute advocating we buy Griffiths but at lease he puts himself about, is happy to play the loan striker and will run until he drops.

Dembele, in my opinion, is a bit more Lukaku-like. He's okay when the ball is played to him but not too happy to go and get it.

Certainly there were games last season when Dembele went missing.Maybe he will come good and play at the highest level but prices being quoted for him are crazy.

Brian Williams
225 Posted 20/06/2017 at 15:33:17
I can't see there being news on Sandro until Spain have played their last game in the U21 Euros and that's exactly what I'd expect. Nobody knows for sure if he's 100% certain to sign. Let's wait and see.

Gordon Crawford
226 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:00:54
It could be the end of the month before we hear anything.
Paz Mistry
227 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:22:11
Sandro just said he doesn't know anything about the transfer:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/i-don't-know-anything-everton-target-speaks-transfer-amid-claims-nearly-done/

Maybe playing games with media, but knowing how long this is taking to sign off on, and also the fact that no-one at Everton has said a word, this is probably not happening.

Brian Williams
228 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:28:17
Just saw that, Paz.

However, if a move to Everton is in the works, the player isn't aware of it, as he told El Mundo when the Spanish newspaper interviewed him on Tuesday, with the player currently with the Spain U21 side at their Euros.

When asked about the move, he said: “I don't know anything. I'm focused on the Euros”.

Andrew Clare
229 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:42:33
It sounds like we spoke to him and he's been left to ponder the offer. Not sure if the medical happened or not, maybe someone knows?

Nothing has been said by the club and the rest is pure speculation. I hope we are signing him but who knows.

The European Under 21 tournament doesn't finish until 30th June so, if we are waiting until it's over, then we have another 10 days.

Peter Warren
230 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:49:28
Iheanacho looks a great prospect to me and reminds me of Sturridge (without the injuries).
Eddie Dunn
231 Posted 20/06/2017 at 16:58:08
Peter, he also doesn't have the dance!
Alan J Thompson
232 Posted 20/06/2017 at 17:11:44
Steavey(#217); I was wondering something similar myself. What happens if Lukaku and Barkley tomorrow sign the contracts on offer, just becomes the squad we need for a busy season?

Obviously it's the Swan thing, beautiful and serene on the surface but paddling like hell underneath.

Gordon Crawford
233 Posted 20/06/2017 at 17:41:14
Something doesn't feel right about this transfer. He is very vague in saying he "doesn't know anything about it", about what exactly? Did he not meet Everton officials in Liverpool? And then supposedly have a medical?
Dave Williams
234 Posted 20/06/2017 at 17:52:49
It doesn't sound too convincing does it? Looks a good player but isn't making very enthusiastic noises, unlike Davy Klaassen and Jordan – not to mention the young Dutch lad.

I would have Plan B in place if I were Walsh!

Alan McGuffog
236 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:03:13
If we are serious about this guy and have been trying to sign him, then we get a message to him. Do you want to play for Everton FC?

Yes? Then sign here.

No? Then do one. Plenty of better players out there.

Raymond Fox
237 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:07:50
It's not going to happen for me; looks like it's 230 posts for a non-event.
John Audsley
238 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:17:48
This transfer isn't going to happen.

It should be signed, sealed and delivered by now. I fear something has happened and it's going to be total fuck up.

Eric Paul
239 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:21:01
All players deny moves.
Chris Gould
240 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:28:17
Not looking good but not a definitive No. Wouldn't be surprised if he's using the U21 Euros to put himself in the shop window, in the knowledge that he has us as a 'sure thing' if he doesn't get a better offer.

We just have to sit back and concentrate on some of the other countless players we've been linked with.

Gordon Crawford
241 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:34:22
That's what I said too Chris. I think he is playing us. I would give until end of week and then move on.
Eric Paul
243 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:37:18
Dave @234

How many of the players you mention actually spoke about the transfer until they were in an Everton shirt? ...approximately none!!!!!

Dave Williams
244 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:41:29
Not a fuck-up, John – just doesn't sound like he fancies playing and living on Merseyside. I hope I'm wrong but no-one's fault if that's the case.
Chris Gould
245 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:52:48
Yes, Dave, it's easy to underestimate what a huge deal it is to uproot and move to another country. We take it for granted with footballers, but who could blame him if he wanted to stay in his home country?

Of course he could just think we're a second rate club and be hoping for a better offer, or Deulofeu could have told him that Koeman is a huge bellend. Time will tell.

Colin Glassar
246 Posted 20/06/2017 at 18:58:21
Home is where the heart is. He's obviously biding his time waiting for a more 'suitable' offer, probably in Spain.
Eric Paul
247 Posted 20/06/2017 at 19:29:24
Barcelona didn't want him; Atletico can't sign him; he's not good enough for Real (yet)... so where else can he go in Spain?
John Audsley
248 Posted 20/06/2017 at 21:04:52
It's just all been too public for me, that's all, Dave.

I hope we get him but it's not gonna happen If he won't sign the contract.

Time to move on.

John Mckay
249 Posted 20/06/2017 at 23:27:36
I knew this would happen.

All the reports saying this is done and dusted... Not done until he is under contract...

Phil Jeffries
250 Posted 21/06/2017 at 11:41:28
Geoff Lambert (#66)...

Sandro to sign the Wednesday after the Portugal game (posted 17 June) when everyone else was claiming he'd be signing next 48 hours.

If he signs today... hats off to you sir! And if Keane signs today or Thursday... I'll be coming direct to you and never reading anything else again!

Bob Parrington
251 Posted 21/06/2017 at 22:58:15
It has been a LOOOOONG 48 hours! Agreed. Possibly a bit too optimistic while he's still involved in the comp in Poland! Maybe a few days yet!
John Mckay
252 Posted 22/06/2017 at 08:32:37
Deal completed according to Liverpool Echo...

Announcement soon...

Geoff Lambert
253 Posted 22/06/2017 at 09:25:28
Phil (#250),

Sandro deal was done on Wednesday; hopefully I'll get some more information on Keane today or tomorrow.

Hugh Jenkins
254 Posted 22/06/2017 at 10:07:38
Geoff (#66, #253) et al.

It seems that you are certainly one of the new "ITKs' on this site.

Keep your ear to the ground and keep us informed.

Hopefully your prediction regarding Keane is also correct and we can look forward to that one crossing the line soon too.

Any other hot tips?

Geoff Lambert
255 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:12:40
Hugh! I now put some chili oil my jersey royals and then put them on 200 degrees for 45 mins. Perfect mmmmmm.

Ear always to the ground .

Hugh Jenkins
256 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:43:30
Geoff (#255). Obviously someone at the Echo has heard the same.

Any feedback on why the delay in the official announcement is taking so long?

Tried the oil on the Jersey Royals – as suggested and cooked them at the recommended temperature.

Haven't been able to get close enough yet to see what they taste like.

John Mckay
257 Posted 22/06/2017 at 18:21:27
Only thing I can think of is he has not signed the contract yet or he wants to wait for it to be announced after the Spain U21 team has finished in the tournament. Either that or Everton are waiting on a couple more signings before announcing them all at the same time.

Surely it would be better to announce them as soon as they sign so other targets think this team means business?

Dragging on this though; the Liverpool Echo got it down as completed so either he has signed or some bad kopite in the Echo office is taking the piss!

Mike Kennedy
258 Posted 22/06/2017 at 19:51:38
He is not signing! Everyone has been premature on this one. Everton have tried but the kid is having a good tournament, he is a knock down price (apparently... it's only the get out clause).

Shame... mind you he does look heavily dependent on his right foot.. lol

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