Liverpool 2022 claim no fears over track at new Everton stadium

Thursday 22 June 2017  20 Comments  [Jump to last]

Liverpool 2022 are claiming they can install and remove an athletics track for the Commonwealth Games in Everton's proposed Bradley-Moore stadium in under three-and-a-half months when it took Hampden Park more than a year to do the same thing.

At the time, Hampden's solution was hailed as revolutionary. At InsideTheGames.biz, we have asked Liverpool on several occasions for details of how they will do this but they haven't responded.

» Read the full article at www.insidethegames.biz


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Michael Kenrick
1 Posted 22/06/2017 at 14:23:44
The language they use makes it sound so simple... 'drop in'... and 'de-rig'. What could possibly go wrong?
Paul Kelly
2 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:07:35
Just get the Japanese in!

After an earthquake, they built an entire bridge/roadway in less than a week! Same with a sinkhole, within 36hrs they rebuilt an entire bridge!

Engineers at the top of their game, plus they gave us the saying, "got an arse like a Japanese flag", what could go wrong?

Brian Williams
3 Posted 22/06/2017 at 15:09:29
Just go and read this, no problem, no fear, no worries!!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/soul-and-spirit-of-everton-will-be-present-in-new-stadium-promises-architect-35855326.html

John Raftery
4 Posted 22/06/2017 at 18:47:35
Let's hope Birmingham get the Commonwealth Games.
David McMullen
5 Posted 22/06/2017 at 20:19:48
The Hampden Park conversion clearly shows how it can be done, amazing. End of worries. Now for the rest of the stadium .
Dean Johnson
6 Posted 23/06/2017 at 07:53:17
Commonwealth, pfft.

The fact that we still commemorate past colonialism with these irrelevant games is beyond me.

We should not have any caveat attached to the new stadium.

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 23/06/2017 at 08:02:29
I don't know why we are still obsessing with this bloody track. It can, and will, be taken out. This is a 21st century design – not the effing Crystal Palace.
Geoff Williams
8 Posted 25/06/2017 at 10:35:54
In the meantime, is the recently added cladding around Goodison safe from fire?
Eugene Ruane
9 Posted 25/06/2017 at 10:39:04
# 7 'This is a 21st century design – not the effing Crystal Palace.'

Is that kind of language really fucking necessary?

Phil Walling
10 Posted 25/06/2017 at 10:43:42
Bad taste that, Geoff, but the insurance pay-out might help with the cost!
Geoff Williams
11 Posted 25/06/2017 at 13:16:15
Phil not sure what you mean by 'bad taste' as it is a genuine concern. The whole of the Main stand has been covered in plastic.
Will Mabon
12 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:03:36
From the linked article:

"It is claimed the accommodation of the temporary 400 metre athletics track will be achieved without any disruption to the "intimacy, fan proximity and atmosphere" of the stadium"

Methinks just about everybody involved dost protest too much about not affecting proximity.

Why is everyone harping on about the process of installing and removing a temporary track? Who's worried about that and who cares? The disruption of fitting and removing the track has nothing to do with what matters; it's the option to do this that impacts substantially on the end result in terms of proximity.

We have Meis himself highlighting "History" and culture, and saying that fans create atmosphere. Then he says:

"We don't want to put out imagery until we know what we can accomplish," he said.

I don't buy for one minute that a guy like Dan Meis doesn't know in seconds what having the track option implies to the basic starting parameters for his design, within his budget. So that statement is honest in that regard.

I believe that the club and Meis are very mindful of the passion that many fans feel for the very football-focused layout of Goodison and will do everything they can to soft pedal this aspect.

Will Mabon
13 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:07:12
"The Hampden Park conversion clearly shows how it can be done, amazing. End of worries. Now for the rest of the stadium."

How what can be done?

Will Mabon
14 Posted 25/06/2017 at 17:10:37
Trying again:

Link

David McMullen
15 Posted 26/06/2017 at 23:32:47
In response, I'm aghast you had to question me when your own point is empathetic and fully understanding about the "temporary athletics track". I am merely commenting on a video Link how Hampden Park was converted to enable an athletics track.

To repeat yourself "Why is everyone harping on about the process of installing and removing a temporary track? Who's worried about that and who cares?".

Will Mabon
16 Posted 27/06/2017 at 00:53:09
David,

From the article linked at the top of this thread:

"Concerns over how the stadium could be adapted for athletics without significantly affecting the design has been one of the main concerns of Everton fans."

Affecting the stadium design. Not how the track will be built.

To clear any misunderstanding - the concern has been about the proximity of the fans for football, the final result when and if a track has been and gone, leaving a football-only stadium. So it's not the end of worries. Have you heard any Everton fans worried about the technicalities of building and removing the track itself?

The reason I linked to the photo of Hampden is because it shows what can result after the accommodation of a track.

The whole paragraph I originally wrote made my own point very clear:

"Why is everyone harping on about the process of installing and removing a temporary track? Who's worried about that and who cares? The disruption of fitting and removing the track has nothing to do with what matters; it's the option to do this that impacts substantially on the end result in terms of proximity."

i.e. compare Hampden with Goodison.

David McMullen
17 Posted 27/06/2017 at 10:26:59
I don't get any of this. The debate us Blues have is concerns over the running track and the have been allayed by the likes of the mayor and Meis. After I saw that Hampden Park conversion video, I thought "Wow, I get that", so end of worries.

As this article questions the timescale – that is another matter and all good if the conversion is done so quickly.

End of my comments on this – I'm not sure what you're stuck on. I'm happy – maybe not with the debate of the design of the stadium yet, etc, but okay.

Conn Prosser
19 Posted 27/06/2017 at 18:35:29
Dean Johnson makes a very good point about celebrating colonialism, one which I'm surprised isn't heard more often.

In defence of the games, I'm watching the Gold Coast gearing up for it next year and the whole place is benefiting already. There's a light railway being extended, stadiums, heaps of infrastructure investment, businesses thriving, tech companies popping up.

We've seen what the games have done for Manchester and Glasgow and I imagine Liverpool would be transformed by it. I think Everton being central to that is an incredible opportunity unlike Man City who adopted the Eastlands after the Games.

The question of atmosphere and passion being affected will be answered by money – let's see if we're putting ours where our mouth is.

Will Mabon
20 Posted 27/06/2017 at 20:09:46
David @ 17:

I'm not stuck on anything. I'll have one last go, then I'll give up too.

Looking at the photo of Hampden, that is the kind of "Proximity" of fans to the pitch that has always resulted in stadiums that have been designed/built/proportioned to accommodate a track, even when it's removed later. The fans are set back away from the pitch.

Comparing with a picture of Goodison, built as a football-only stadium, it is seen that the stands and hence fans, are sited much closer to the pitch.

This and the extra atmosphere it creates are much loved by Blues, some of whom are concerned that it will be lost in a stadium designed to temporarily house a running track – because a stadium designed to contain a standard running track will have to have a larger flat area in the middle.

Unless of course you think Hampden looks like Goodison, in which case...

Laurie Hartley
21 Posted 29/06/2017 at 00:44:37
Given that he has tweeted that "proximity" won't be compromised, it seems to me that Dan Meis has already figured out how to overcome the geometrical problem presented by the inclusion of a running track.

I am also guessing that he won't be trying to solve it with the Hampden "stick built" solution – too time consuming and labour intensive.

I have a feeling that we may well end up with a pitch sunk into the drained-off dock with steep stands on all sides. Now that would be threatening.

On the other hand, now that I have retired perhaps I have too much time on my hands.

It's all good fun – much better than our Kirby episode.

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