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Blues plot move for Pickford

| Thursday, 02 March 2017  36 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton are said to be weighing up a summer move for Sunderland's promising young goalkeeper, Jordan Pickford.

The Liverpool Echo suggest that Pickford has emerged as a target for Ronald Koeman and Steve Walsh who are looking for goalkeeping reinforcements.

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Stu Barnes
1 Posted 02/03/2017 at 07:38:42
On last week's performance, he was indecisive, flapping all over the show, decidedly dodgy and definitely the second-best keeper on the pitch.. I'd rather we went for Hart.
Tony Abrahams
2 Posted 02/03/2017 at 07:47:35
I never thought I'd say it but give Joel a proper chance. He's waited for his turn, and looks better with every passing month, so although we want the best, we also want players who really want to play for Everton FC.

Pickford looks decent though, I thought his distribution was poor on Saturday, but then so was Sunderland's, and he hadn't played for a good while, so I don't think it's fair to judge him on a comeback game. His positional sense impressed me, though, and he looks like he could be a good keeper, even though I'd sooner stick with Joel!

Laura Round
3 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:18:24
I'd stick with Joel but try and get him anyway. He's young so maybe okay with not starting every game. If we get Europe, that and decent cup runs might offer some more competition in the role. I'd rather have Jordan and Joel than Joel and Stek...

If Sunderland go down, I'd say he'll move on.

Ray Robinson
4 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:26:15
I'm not saying that Pickford isn't a good prospect (although he looked a bit shaky last Saturday), but is he really the proven quality that we should be aspiring to with our new found ambition?

Isn't it a bit like Karius at Liverpool? Thought to have great potential but not ready for the highest level of competition?

John Malone
5 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:31:34
I was really keen on him before watching him live last Saturday but now I think he is a good few years off being a Premier League number one.

He looks like he would be a good buy as one for the future if Koeman fancies sticking with Robles, but not who we need to be the difference in winning games right now!

Mike Berry
6 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:34:38
I think Robles has the potential to be a great keeper, he has the size and agility and was not far behind De Gea in Spain; with a run of games you can witness how he is progressing.

As for Pickford, yes he could become a top keeper, could do his own removals if he comes too.

Len Hawkins
7 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:52:19
Mike (#5) – Do you know the piano's on my foot, you hum it son I'll play it!
Ray Roche
8 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:14:38
Stick with Joel and see how things pan out between now and the end of the season. It would be hard on Joel to replace him after the way he's performed since being given an extended run in the team. Maybe that's all he's needed all along?
John Hammond
9 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:27:49
In fairness to Pickford, he'd missed the last 6 or 7 games with an injury so bound to be a tad shaky.
Dave Abrahams
10 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:29:10
Pickford has got a lot of potential and can become a very good goalkeeper. Robles is proving game by game he is getting better and better, have some faith in the lad.

I watched him at the end of the Arsenal game, he didn't play, he was on the pitch dancing and hugging every Everton player, he obviously loves the club, he's been patient and waited for his chance so I think it is only right that he gets it.

Derek Thomas
11 Posted 02/03/2017 at 10:01:16
Joel has served his time as No 2 and done nothing wrong up to now. At 26, a steady improvement to a decent peak/standard is not unlikely.

Only Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd might have claim to better, not City, Arsenal or the RS.

Pickford at 22, may have just as much potential as Joel had at that age, although Joel only showed it in patches due to Martinez's defensive shenanigans and love of Howard.

It would be a very tough call to parachute Pickford into the No 1 slot. Would he want to serve his time as No 2? Even in a decent team and a decent wage... not that I know what he's on, but wages only seem to go one way nowadays.

Until he gets a decent run in a decent team, nobody will ever know just how really good he is or isn't. Which is were Walsh and Koeman earn their corn.

Phil Sammon
12 Posted 02/03/2017 at 10:14:35
Either stick with Joel or go for absolute top class. Joel's not the finished article. He's got plenty of potential himself.

Seems that every year there's a keeper from a bottom three club who's touted as a prospect for bigger and better things. It's not a bad gig is it. You get a pat on the back for only conceding 2 every week and then get linked with an escape route from the Championship.

Robert Leigh
13 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:17:39
Joel would thrive having Pickford on the bench behind him. One thing is for sure – I can't see Stekelebnburg waiting around now he's had another sniff of being Hollands #1.

Joel has been first class, just look at the stats. If he keeps going as he is, we do not need a 'New #1', but a scenario where we bring in Pickford and he waits for his chance like Stoke did with Begovic & Butland would be the way to go IMO.

Terry Underwood
14 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:19:54
Joel has proved himself worthy of the Number One spot, but we still need young back up.
Ray Roche
15 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:42:08
I've seen Forster from Southampton mentioned in the past; well, he is currently stinking the gaff out at Southampton. Their fans are giving him loads, especially after the Wembley defeat, so I don't think he'd be on MY short list.

Fans who see a player week-in & week-out can sometimes give an insight into just how good a player is. City fans weren't universally happy with Head and Shoulders either. Are either of those two better than Joel the way he's been playing?

Richard Reeves
16 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:45:01
It will be a great signing if it happens. Definitely my first choice of all the others in the league and, like Joel, he has the potential to be the best in the league.

Another position we'll be very strong in for possibly 10 years.

Alan J Thompson
17 Posted 02/03/2017 at 12:14:44
Joel got his chance and took it. Another 'keeper coming in has to be No.2 until his chance comes along.
Liam Reilly
18 Posted 02/03/2017 at 13:05:07
There's 12 more games left to play this season and several of those are against the top sides in the league.

Joel's done well up to now but I suspect to keep Koeman's trust, he's going to have to make a real difference in some of those games.

Steve Ferns
19 Posted 02/03/2017 at 13:25:35
I've only seen young Pickford in the games against Everton, and then on highlights on Match of the Day.

On Match of the Day, he looked decent. He's pulled off some good saves. But watching him live, particularly against us, I have to say I was not impressed. I think it would be a waste to spend big money on him.

Either we waste money by buying him and letting him sit on the bench, or we play him. If he sits on the bench then it's a waste of funds and potentially stunts his development. If he plays, then it's a big, big gamble. We all expect to push for top 4 next season, so is Jordan Pickford good enough to be in goal for a top 4 team next season?

I would highlight John Ruddy. John was with us early in his career. He was not good enough to break into the first team, and he was let go. He then did well for Norwich and got into the England squad. Whenever I see Ruddy, particularly in the past at the height of his powers, he looked a good keeper. But he was regularly conceding 3 or 4 goals, while pulling off decent saves. When the inevitable link for the return surfaced, I thought to myself, as I do with Pickford, that this is a good keeper for a relegation threatened side.

A good keeper for us, needs to be one who commands his defence, which includes the captain of Wales, the Captain of Ireland, England internationals Baines and Jagielka, and Argentina international Funes Mori. Do we really expect young Pickford to be able to boss them around? Because that is what Robles is now doing (he wasn't last season).

Also, the keeper needs to have the ability, as very few do, to do nothing all game, and then pull off a save in the last minute which would be the difference between 1 point and 3 points. Think Southall in 1985 against Spurs, where he effectively won us the league, having been sat in his deckchair watching the match with the rest of us up till then. An exaggeration, of course, but you get the point.

For me, Robles is improving, game by game. A keeper is all about confidence, reputation, and communication. Robles is not the best in the league, but he could be. The sky is the limit with this lad. I would like to see if he can become a top 4 keeper. And as for backup, the 2010 World Cup finalist, Stekelenburg, at 35, is good enough.

Dennis Heaton
20 Posted 02/03/2017 at 14:32:55
Joel has played behind a poor defence, as did Howard before him. If your defence is poor, the keeper is likely to be poor as he has many more saves to make. Now, we are more solid in defence, so the keeper becomes better because his work rate is less.

I like Joel. Give him a fare crack of the whip now we are more solid at the back and put the £20 mil or so towards a second striker.

Steve Ferns
21 Posted 02/03/2017 at 15:25:14
Agreed Dennis.

Also most people seem to have forgot that he was Man of the Match when Wigan won the FA Cup. He'd have been 20/21 at the time.

Brian Furey
22 Posted 02/03/2017 at 15:46:03
I'm glad to read so many of you think we should stick with Robles and finally give him his chance. I think a lot of keepers have the potential to be great keepers but it depends on how well organised their defence is and how confident and commanding the keeper is. If he is constantly talking to his players and coming off his line for crosses then he will be feeling confident and that will spread among the team.

As someone said, look at Forster who not so long ago was looking amazing but, when you start to have doubts and make a few bad decisions, then your confidence can soon go, and as a keeper any mistakes you make tend to be crucial.

I'd much rather see us spend money on our attack to bring in players who will score goals such as Glyfi Sigurdsson. As we will probably see this Sunday that, when teams double mark Rom, we don't have a lot of other options scoring goals.

Ray Robinson
23 Posted 02/03/2017 at 16:18:32
I don't think that WBA would let him go but Ben Foster looks as good as anyone at the moment.
Thomas Surgenor
24 Posted 02/03/2017 at 16:58:58
Can one of the statos on here tell me Joel's games to clean sheet ratio?

I don't remember him having too many outstanding games but at the same time, his presence between the sticks always seems to coincide with a run of clean sheets!

I remember Roberto dropping him after he had kept more clean sheets in a month than Howard had the entire season up till that date.

I'd stick with Joel over Pickford.

Brian Porter
25 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:14:44
No thanks, unless he's signed as a back-up to Robles, who surely has to be given the opportunity to establish himself as our #1 on recent performances.

I'm not totally convinced by Pickford who often looked like a rabbit caught in car headlights last week.

Mark Riding
26 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:47:43
Pickford is very good indeed. Moyes rushed him back to play a bit too early from a very serious injury last week.

We should deffo go in with a snide low offer and say in the press he should be allowed to leave Sunderland to further his career with us.

Ian Bennett
27 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:56:14
Joel has an excellent league record this season. 7 clean sheets in 10 starts is very impressive. Of that, he's conceded just 6 goals including a dodgy one against Bournemouth, where the fella dribbled back from way over the dead ball line. His only mistake for me was the free kick against Hull, so he fully warrants his run till the end of the season and maybe beyond.

Pickford is a good up-and-coming player, but has a lot of mistakes. I would pass up on him, but go for a fit again Butland – a player we should've signed from Birmingham.

Mark Boulle
28 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:50:00
I agree, Robles should now get an extended run at the No 1 slot, but if we're talking other Premier League keepers we could realistically get to compete with him, then it's Heaton (surprised no mention of him on this thread) or Schmeichel for me, in that order.
David Tennant
29 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:24:07
Joel deserves to be No 1 he is a reliable keeper capable of great saves.

That is what is required.

Jim Knightley
30 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:49:32
Pickford has had a great season; it was his first game back after a lengthy injury at the weekend – that explains his rustiness.

Personally, though, I'd prefer us to go in for Heaton, who was been brilliant. Begovic is an option too. Any of those 3 would bring real quality and first team competition.

Stek isn't up to it imo and we need to address that area (along with a creative midfielder, a striker, a centre-back and a left-back in an ideal world).

John Pierce
31 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:05:42
If Everton are to progress, this move if it happens, is as a reserve.

I think, despite an impressive and stabilising presence in Robles, my gut tells me we will go for someone established, in their late 20s and cash in on Joel in the summer window.

Pickford grew into the game on Saturday but looks exactly what he is, callow and nervous.

Not my type of keeper... I prefer binmen.

Mike Gaynes
32 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:16:45
Lordy, I dream of the day when goalkeepers are the topic here and the name Bungles Begovic doesn't come up. He's an option... like a milkshake is an option for the diabetic.

I'm with the consensus that we don't need to shop for keepers right now. Many higher priorities.

Neil Wood
33 Posted 03/03/2017 at 06:24:20
What exactly has Robles done or not done to keep him out of Number 1? This was straight from the Echo shortly after the Man City game:

Only compatriot David De Gea at Manchester United has a better save ratio than Robles since December 1, with the Everton man managing to save 80% of shots faced, marginally worse than 80.8% of De Ge.

Now why would we be wanting to splash out £20 million on a keeper at the same level?!? Madness. I'm very sure we could use that money to better effect and keep Robles as our established keeper for the next 10 years as he's only going to keep getting better.

He will make the odd mistake. They all do. Did Southall never make a mistake? Hart?

Move on.

Phil Walling
34 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:24:29
Pickford looking for a move?
Jamie Evans
35 Posted 03/03/2017 at 20:07:20
Robles for me, seems strong when opposition through one on one, has real presence and commandment of his area on crosses (helped by his size), has made some big saves during matches we have won/kept clean sheets in and seems like he has a really good attitude with the rest of the players and enjoys playing for the club.

Having said that, when he first joined, I thought he looked terrible, but happy to be wrong. Keep up the good work, Joel.

Malcolm Bennett
36 Posted 03/03/2017 at 20:55:04
First off, I agree with all the posters who are in favor of giving Joel Robles an extended run as our Number One. If we were however to go for another keeper then Pickford would, in my opinion, be the way to go.

I have three friends who are Preston North End season ticket holders and all separately raved about him.

''Best keeper ever to wear a Preston shirt."
''Saved us at least 11 points in the season."
''For sure, a future England keeper.''

All this of course when he was out on loan to them which does beggar the question why didn't we swoop then when we needed a number one and presumably he would have commanded a far smaller fee and wages.

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

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