The Liverpool Echo suggest that Pickford has emerged as a target for Ronald Koeman and Steve Walsh who are looking for goalkeeping reinforcements.
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1 Posted 02/03/2017 at 07:38:42
2 Posted 02/03/2017 at 07:47:35
Pickford looks decent though, I thought his distribution was poor on Saturday, but then so was Sunderland's, and he hadn't played for a good while, so I don't think it's fair to judge him on a comeback game. His positional sense impressed me, though, and he looks like he could be a good keeper, even though I'd sooner stick with Joel!
3 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:18:24
If Sunderland go down, I'd say he'll move on.
4 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:26:15
Isn't it a bit like Karius at Liverpool? Thought to have great potential but not ready for the highest level of competition?
5 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:31:34
He looks like he would be a good buy as one for the future if Koeman fancies sticking with Robles, but not who we need to be the difference in winning games right now!
6 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:34:38
As for Pickford, yes he could become a top keeper, could do his own removals if he comes too.
7 Posted 02/03/2017 at 08:52:19
8 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:14:38
9 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:27:49
10 Posted 02/03/2017 at 09:29:10
I watched him at the end of the Arsenal game, he didn't play, he was on the pitch dancing and hugging every Everton player, he obviously loves the club, he's been patient and waited for his chance so I think it is only right that he gets it.
11 Posted 02/03/2017 at 10:01:16
Only Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd might have claim to better, not City, Arsenal or the RS.
Pickford at 22, may have just as much potential as Joel had at that age, although Joel only showed it in patches due to Martinez's defensive shenanigans and love of Howard.
It would be a very tough call to parachute Pickford into the No 1 slot. Would he want to serve his time as No 2? Even in a decent team and a decent wage... not that I know what he's on, but wages only seem to go one way nowadays.
Until he gets a decent run in a decent team, nobody will ever know just how really good he is or isn't. Which is were Walsh and Koeman earn their corn.
12 Posted 02/03/2017 at 10:14:35
Seems that every year there's a keeper from a bottom three club who's touted as a prospect for bigger and better things. It's not a bad gig is it. You get a pat on the back for only conceding 2 every week and then get linked with an escape route from the Championship.
13 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:17:39
Joel has been first class, just look at the stats. If he keeps going as he is, we do not need a 'New #1', but a scenario where we bring in Pickford and he waits for his chance like Stoke did with Begovic & Butland would be the way to go IMO.
14 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:19:54
15 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:42:08
Fans who see a player week-in & week-out can sometimes give an insight into just how good a player is. City fans weren't universally happy with Head and Shoulders either. Are either of those two better than Joel the way he's been playing?
16 Posted 02/03/2017 at 11:45:01
Another position we'll be very strong in for possibly 10 years.
17 Posted 02/03/2017 at 12:14:44
18 Posted 02/03/2017 at 13:05:07
Joel's done well up to now but I suspect to keep Koeman's trust, he's going to have to make a real difference in some of those games.
19 Posted 02/03/2017 at 13:25:35
On Match of the Day, he looked decent. He's pulled off some good saves. But watching him live, particularly against us, I have to say I was not impressed. I think it would be a waste to spend big money on him.
Either we waste money by buying him and letting him sit on the bench, or we play him. If he sits on the bench then it's a waste of funds and potentially stunts his development. If he plays, then it's a big, big gamble. We all expect to push for top 4 next season, so is Jordan Pickford good enough to be in goal for a top 4 team next season?
I would highlight John Ruddy. John was with us early in his career. He was not good enough to break into the first team, and he was let go. He then did well for Norwich and got into the England squad. Whenever I see Ruddy, particularly in the past at the height of his powers, he looked a good keeper. But he was regularly conceding 3 or 4 goals, while pulling off decent saves. When the inevitable link for the return surfaced, I thought to myself, as I do with Pickford, that this is a good keeper for a relegation threatened side.
A good keeper for us, needs to be one who commands his defence, which includes the captain of Wales, the Captain of Ireland, England internationals Baines and Jagielka, and Argentina international Funes Mori. Do we really expect young Pickford to be able to boss them around? Because that is what Robles is now doing (he wasn't last season).
Also, the keeper needs to have the ability, as very few do, to do nothing all game, and then pull off a save in the last minute which would be the difference between 1 point and 3 points. Think Southall in 1985 against Spurs, where he effectively won us the league, having been sat in his deckchair watching the match with the rest of us up till then. An exaggeration, of course, but you get the point.
For me, Robles is improving, game by game. A keeper is all about confidence, reputation, and communication. Robles is not the best in the league, but he could be. The sky is the limit with this lad. I would like to see if he can become a top 4 keeper. And as for backup, the 2010 World Cup finalist, Stekelenburg, at 35, is good enough.
20 Posted 02/03/2017 at 14:32:55
I like Joel. Give him a fare crack of the whip now we are more solid at the back and put the £20 mil or so towards a second striker.
21 Posted 02/03/2017 at 15:25:14
Also most people seem to have forgot that he was Man of the Match when Wigan won the FA Cup. He'd have been 20/21 at the time.
22 Posted 02/03/2017 at 15:46:03
As someone said, look at Forster who not so long ago was looking amazing but, when you start to have doubts and make a few bad decisions, then your confidence can soon go, and as a keeper any mistakes you make tend to be crucial.
I'd much rather see us spend money on our attack to bring in players who will score goals such as Glyfi Sigurdsson. As we will probably see this Sunday that, when teams double mark Rom, we don't have a lot of other options scoring goals.
23 Posted 02/03/2017 at 16:18:32
24 Posted 02/03/2017 at 16:58:58
I don't remember him having too many outstanding games but at the same time, his presence between the sticks always seems to coincide with a run of clean sheets!
I remember Roberto dropping him after he had kept more clean sheets in a month than Howard had the entire season up till that date.
I'd stick with Joel over Pickford.
25 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:14:44
I'm not totally convinced by Pickford who often looked like a rabbit caught in car headlights last week.
26 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:47:43
We should deffo go in with a snide low offer and say in the press he should be allowed to leave Sunderland to further his career with us.
27 Posted 02/03/2017 at 18:56:14
Pickford is a good up-and-coming player, but has a lot of mistakes. I would pass up on him, but go for a fit again Butland a player we should've signed from Birmingham.
28 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:50:00
29 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:24:07
That is what is required.
30 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:49:32
Personally, though, I'd prefer us to go in for Heaton, who was been brilliant. Begovic is an option too. Any of those 3 would bring real quality and first team competition.
Stek isn't up to it imo and we need to address that area (along with a creative midfielder, a striker, a centre-back and a left-back in an ideal world).
31 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:05:42
I think, despite an impressive and stabilising presence in Robles, my gut tells me we will go for someone established, in their late 20s and cash in on Joel in the summer window.
Pickford grew into the game on Saturday but looks exactly what he is, callow and nervous.
Not my type of keeper... I prefer binmen.
32 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:16:45
I'm with the consensus that we don't need to shop for keepers right now. Many higher priorities.
33 Posted 03/03/2017 at 06:24:20
Only compatriot David De Gea at Manchester United has a better save ratio than Robles since December 1, with the Everton man managing to save 80% of shots faced, marginally worse than 80.8% of De Ge.
Now why would we be wanting to splash out £20 million on a keeper at the same level?!? Madness. I'm very sure we could use that money to better effect and keep Robles as our established keeper for the next 10 years as he's only going to keep getting better.
He will make the odd mistake. They all do. Did Southall never make a mistake? Hart?
34 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:24:29
35 Posted 03/03/2017 at 20:07:20
Having said that, when he first joined, I thought he looked terrible, but happy to be wrong. Keep up the good work, Joel.
36 Posted 03/03/2017 at 20:55:04
I have three friends who are Preston North End season ticket holders and all separately raved about him.
''Best keeper ever to wear a Preston shirt."
''Saved us at least 11 points in the season."
''For sure, a future England keeper.''
All this of course when he was out on loan to them which does beggar the question why didn't we swoop then when we needed a number one and presumably he would have commanded a far smaller fee and wages.
Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
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