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Everton to target summer move for Rooney

| Thursday, 02 March 2017  111 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton will take a second run at bringing Wayne Rooney back to Goodison Park and the player would "consider" it according to reports.

In The Times, Paul Joyce writes that the Blues failed with a loan bid in January for the 31-year-old because Jose Mourinho didn't want to let him go but that talks will be revived over a permanent switch at the end of the season.

Sky Sports "sources", meanwhile, claim that Rooney, who was linked with a mega-money move to China this month before their transfer window closed, would consider a return to Everton, 12 years after he left the club for Manchester United.



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Kunal Desai
1 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:28:51
The only way I would consider Rooney back at Everton is if he was Kone's replacement – along with getting in another quality striker to replace Valencia who would return back to West Ham... AND we keep Lukaku.
Karl Masters
2 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:30:14
Will this story ever go away?

A year ago I'd have welcomed this, but my opinion of Rooney's abilities nosedived in the second half of that England game versus Iceland last Summer.

He couldn't even make a decent pass and looked physically destroyed. The fact that he's not been a big part of Man Utd's season suggests they think he's on the way out too.

A one-year deal at most, and even then I'd have grave doubts.

Oscar Huglin
3 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:43:36
Yes, please.
Eugene Kearney
4 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:48:22
I think it could have been a nice idea – if he wasn't a bit of a crock.
Mike Green
5 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:50:01
If this happened, TW would break the Internet.
Sam Hoare
6 Posted 02/03/2017 at 20:56:44
A 1-2 year deal on wages similar to Barry and Jagielka and then sure. But let's all be honest and admit he might not even make the starting XI. Not the player he was 2-3 years ago.
Andrew Ellams
7 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:06:27
No, we need somebody with more in their legs to play the way Koeman is taking the team.
Oscar Huglin
8 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:08:55
I'm just gonna re-iterate here: Yes, please.
Dermot Byrne
9 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:14:21
Great. While we are at it let's stay at Goodison, debate about away kit colours and keep singing about our effin history coz the future won't inspire a single song. This club cannot take a step forward without tumbling two back.
Trevor Lynes
10 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:14:37
I cannot believe that we are prepared to waste any of this summer’s transfer budget on yet another reject from Man Utd.

Who is he going to replace at Everton ?

Our midfield is our strongest part of the squad.What we need is someone to score goals and support Lukaku.Rooney has stopped scoring goals and is about the same pace as Barry.

I cannot believe that he is being seriously considered by Koeman.United have had all the good years out of him and now we are looking at signing the dregs.I really hate this Man Utd club using us as a dumping ground.

FFS lets show some real ambition and break this stupid ceiling we are playing under.We do not need any old players, we have enough of our own to replace.

Ed Wallis
11 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:15:34
Absolutely, we should have him: inspirational, a great team player... Motivated, still an Evertonian (irrespective of his move in 2004) and a great footballer. He would give fantastic service to Lukaku. Older in body but a great footy brain. I'm sure we would be just as good for him as he is for us.
Charlie Lloyd
12 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:24:19
As part of a squad that takes on Europa League (hopefully) and on a sensible wage, then it's a deal that would be "okay".

Unless he can rediscover some of what made him a top Premier League player for many years, though, I agree with those that voice concern over whether he would actually be able to make the first 11. If not, he becomes an expensive bench-warmer.

Much to consider on this deal...

Stephen Scofield
13 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:38:21
I for one would welcome him back. He went in a time the club needed money, he was a little immature, but can't think of many people who are mature at his age at the time.

Barry has been great, and remember Rooney is one of the fastest players in the Premier League despite his age.

As long as it's not for silly wages and Lukaku going the other way, I can't think of any player I'd rather see in a blue shirt.

Paul Ellam
14 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:45:21
Make it happen!
Dermot Byrne
15 Posted 02/03/2017 at 21:55:47
Goal in first game and then "helping encourage youngsters" on the training field as we pay him for nothing.
Chris Owens
16 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:18:13
No, thanks. We've moved on from the days where we could only afford to bring in players like Gazza and Ginola who were well past their best. Nil satis nisi optimum.
John Tyrrell
17 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:18:34
I would love to see him back, as long as its not stupid money. I would also like to see Franck Kessie, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, and a central defender.
Dan Nulty
18 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:19:12
Trust in Ronald.
Brent Stephens
19 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:19:14
Performance-related pay (not like the bankers get – bonuses regardless of performance). See how it goes.
John Tyrrell
20 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:20:51
As for him bench warming at Man Utd, he has played more minutes than Morgan did and he's doing alright for us.
Ed Curry
21 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:21:06
No. We need to look to the future not the past. That young Belgium Yoiri Tielemans or someone of the same ilk should be who we are looking at – not a bench-warmer.
Chris Bentham
22 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:26:06
In a heartbeat.

Same wages as Lukaku, 2 year deal with an option of a 3rd.
What a statement and, in my opinion, a reinvigorated Rooney would thrive on it.

Brian Williams
23 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:37:55
Just wish it could have happened a couple of years ago. As it stands it makes us look like a bit of a retirement home.

I also think it would detract from the "team" and it would all be about him which, I believe, would have an adverse effect.

The time for Rooney at Everton has passed, IMHO. It's time to look forward and time to invest in youth for the near and long-term future.

We'll never get what we hoped we'd all get from Rooney. That ship has sailed.

Simon Bell
24 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:46:21
Why the negativity over this? Yeah, so he'll be 31 or 32 but when has that ever stopped a player having an impact on the team?

Personally I'd have taken Frank Lampard when he went to the MLS who was much older and not playing as much for Chelsea.

Let's face it Rooney is based on natural ability head and shoulders above what we have. All players go through bad form, being dropped etc and I'm sure Rooney has a good few seasons left in him.

Once a Blue, Always a Blue!

Kieran Kinsella
25 Posted 02/03/2017 at 22:56:33
Peter Beagrie all over again. His triumphant return was a disaster. He was made to look well out of his depth as we narrowly avoided relegation. He was never the same superstar he'd been a decade earlier. The parallels are eerily similar.

We don't need Beagrie Mk 2 coming into a team with Lookman and Davies, just as it was a disaster bringing in Beagrie to supplement Farrelly and Oster. Their careers never recovered.

Paul Hewitt
26 Posted 02/03/2017 at 23:02:19
Not good enough now, it's that simple.
Gerard Carey
27 Posted 02/03/2017 at 23:07:14
No, too late. Who would you drop to accommodate him. Definitely a step backwards. We are building for the future.

Now if it was Mata or Silva, I would say Yes!

Gary Russell
28 Posted 02/03/2017 at 23:38:10
Nah. Can't find any positives football wise. Moshiri's 'museum' quote will come back to haunt him if he lets this happen.

For some issues, clubs could respect fans more and gauge opinion, like Swansea (finally) taking note of fans over the manager, and look at Leicester over Hodgson. Surely the fans of the Champs would not want him.

Likewise Rooney. If the club was to have a poll, like the badge effort, then that would be fair. I wonder if a TW poll on Rooney will happen. This site's had no polls for a while now.

David Israel
29 Posted 03/03/2017 at 00:55:24
This story is being given so much prominence that I should think the chances of him coming back must now be around 65%-35%.

As to whether I'd welcome it, I'm still sitting on the fence.

Jay Wood
30 Posted 03/03/2017 at 01:00:48
Can we just copy-paste from all previous Rooney threads on this subject..?

Jaysus, this site needs a game of actual football – and soon!

Jim Harrison
31 Posted 03/03/2017 at 01:35:38
Both Koeman and Walsh are keen, and they are no mugs. I think two seasons would be good. He has great experience, which Ross and Rom can learn from.

He is one of football's most recognisable players. Raising the profile of the club internationally will be key to expanding overseas income opportunities.

And he is still a good player! Like it or not, our squad is still not as good as those above us in the league. He won't be the only signing either.

Alan J Thompson
32 Posted 03/03/2017 at 02:33:29
As stated by JH (#26) both Koeman and Walsh have commented on the matter and it is on BBC site that Man Utd are considering paying Rooney off at the end of the season so he can join another Premier League club on a free transfer. All sounds very ominous.

I think it is too late but I could see him on the bench as a second-choice striker for a season or until we can find someone with more of a future to fill that position, assuming Lukaku stays. It would depend on Rooney's wage demands; paying him more than Lukaku might be re-opening that can of worms.

Dano Holcomb
33 Posted 03/03/2017 at 02:37:28
Why not have him drop to play behind Rom or as a (more) creative central midfielder than we have? He can still take decent free kicks, corners and play a 30-yard pass. He does not have the pace or perhaps stamina but a nice finish to his career coming back to where he started.

I'm not saying give him the keys to Goodison but hey, let's face it, we loved him when he was here, hated to see him go, wanted to kick him whenever he played against us, but now bygones are past. Love to see him finish a Toffee.

Maybe he bequeaths his knowledge and experience to the younger generation coming through. Could be a huge impact off the bench. Provides us with solid depth. Can we afford his wages? Probably not. Would we be fine without him? Yes. Would he help us? Yes. He's got 2 good years left...

Malcolm Kitchen
34 Posted 03/03/2017 at 02:50:04
Hi all, Jim (#26) some good points, ie, raise the club's profile! But too many negative ones, I really think if Rooney was not a Scouser we would not be having this discussion! ,

Plus, he's 32 in October, nearly past it, on £300k a week and would stop our youth getting into the first team. Dowell & Calvert-Lewin for example... it's a big fat NO!

One more season & he's done in Premier League! Push the boat out for Lacazette 25/26 ex for Lyon! Cafu, Tielmann, Emerson & Keane! Get Those five in the summer & we'll win the League!!

David Tennant
35 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:23:00
In a 3-5-2, he certainly has a position in support of Rom. He would improve our team. Plus he would play all out for us.

Beyond that, imagine our players walking in and seeing England's and Manchhester United's record goalscorer standing there, playing with them and teaching them.

John Pierce
36 Posted 03/03/2017 at 03:49:13
This looks like it will happen. Media driven, positive, realistic noises from all parties sound sensible.

A paid-off Rooney from Man Utd, seems likely given his of length of service. Makes a 2-/3-year contract a given, to cut deeply into his heavy wages.

It really does send a message to other players current and prospective that we mean business. Everton could not attract a 32-year-old who has won everything that club footy can offer. Period.

We have a sentimental edge so let's use it.

If people think Rooney doesn't have that pull amongst other players, then perhaps it's too much of a fans' perspective, to my mind at least.

For those backing the Koeman project, he clearly wants a winner in the squad, a mentality Rooney has long held.

Even if it blows up, it's part of the evolution of ambitious Everton. A step that should be tried because we don't have the pull or the stature to get the players we need.

As part of a bigger picture, it works for me and has the added bonus of some drama along the way.


Ian Jones
37 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:33:03
When we beat Spurs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal over the rest of the season, Rooney may welcome the chance to play for a team that is in top 4. Gets him back into the Champions League.
Julian Wait
38 Posted 03/03/2017 at 04:55:23
Not something I would try and push myself, but I trust the management on this one. Weigh up the options, make a footballing decision.

If we can justify the money, the idea of Rooney coming on for the last 25 minutes to help turn games around and open up the opposition, to get 1 point from 0 or better 3 points from 1 or 0, yes maybe it just might make sense.

He will retire from England, not be playing 90 mins twice a week, and he could have 2 or 3 more years; and win a trophy or two with us I hope.

Still, I am not going to get wound up about it either way; if it happens, we'll see how it works out. If it doesn't it means we have a better solution. IK^2&WWT?

Dermot Byrne
39 Posted 03/03/2017 at 06:25:30
"Once a Blue, Always a Blue." Not good enough criteria now. Sounds like a strategy Villa, Wednesday or Forest may employ.

Let the fans decide? No, no, no. Some of the crap we have written on here, god help us if we decide on transfers!

I just think it would make us look so second best to have a transfer policy lead by the media or fans. Both should report on our improvement and each would soon forget him after two weeks. Moshiri may not forget it though when he looks at the accounts. Neither a good idea IMHO.

Neil Wood
40 Posted 03/03/2017 at 06:39:42
It simply has to be a footballing decision. No sentiment, no resent nothing. Ask yourself... As a second striker, would you play:

A) Rooney?
B) Kone?
C) Valencia?

We all know the answer. He's 32 – not 36; he has got bundles of time left and is still one of the most gifted footballers in the world. He's not been playing the same amount of football, hence the dip in goals etc. Doesn't mean he can't and won't score.

We have been crying out for a proven goal scorer to supplement Rom. We have all been bemoaning the lack of creativity and killer pass at times to break through parked buses. Well here is the answer, wrapped up on a plate, who WANTS to come, who wouldn't go missing in games for us, and is a lifelong blue.

I am absolutely bemused as to why you wouldn't want him?!?!? Would any of you have said No to Totti at 32? Zlatan at 32? Sheringham?

No... Crazy if we don't.

Jim Hourigan
41 Posted 03/03/2017 at 06:46:35
The hardest thing is to separate emotion from football and none of us can do that because we're born into this club. It might take someone like Koeman or Walsh to look at this decision dispassionately and logically and see if it makes "football sense".

Additionally, an awful lot of what we hear is paper talk and smoke and mirrors, managers rarely give away true targets to the media so is Koeman playing clever? If he comes, it will be for footballing reasons and that means we either trust the manager or not. If he doesn't come then all the talk may well have been a smoke screen to attract some other high profile target – who knows.

Until such time as he puts on a blue shirt in a competitive match, I for one will reserve judgement. One thing I do know he's head and shoulders above the likes of Williams, Barry and Jagielka and the first two seem destined to be with us for a while.

Kieran Fitzgerald
42 Posted 03/03/2017 at 07:37:36
Neil @ 40, spot on. We won't be asking him to run 20 km a match. Put him in behind Lukaku and let him do his thing. We have a quality midfield that can manage defensive work and the opposition will have to be a little more defensive anyway if Rooney is backing up Lukaku.

Anyway, players are used to being rotated. Mirallas, Barkley and Davis all know they won't start every game so they aren't going to lose out that much. What harm is a little competition?

Jason Bowen
43 Posted 03/03/2017 at 08:28:37
No We are not a judas has-been retirement home! No.
Colin Glassar
44 Posted 03/03/2017 at 08:35:37
Sounds like Man Utd will let him go for free. If he's fit and willing to accept our offer, then I can see him in an Everton shirt next season.
John Ronnie
45 Posted 03/03/2017 at 08:58:27
Although I've stated on here I don't want him back, I've got a feeling, if he does come back, we could see winning one if the cups... Just got this vision we shall see him in a blue shirt with a cup above his head, And therefore thinking what could have been

Tony Waring
46 Posted 03/03/2017 at 09:14:04
Paper talk is that Man Utd will pay off his contract and let him go on a free transfer. So why not offer him a pay-as-you-play contract?
Ian Burns
47 Posted 03/03/2017 at 09:33:41
Purely on football terms, this is a "no" for me; it is too late.

I was disappointed watching the Sky interview with Mr Walsh who was drooling over Rooney when I was thinking "Get off your arse and unearth the gems you were brought in to find, not to take the easy ride on the Rooney bandwagon".

Oscar Huglin
48 Posted 03/03/2017 at 09:41:21
So interesting how much of a divide this topic creates within the fans. As far as I'm concerned, as long as he takes a wage cut, it would be absolutely fantastic for him and the club.
Scott Hamilton
49 Posted 03/03/2017 at 10:10:14
A talisman that can come off the bench and score or make goals.

Sign him up for 1-2 years.

Andy Codling
50 Posted 03/03/2017 at 10:47:58
No thanks, Man Utd had his best years; why should we let him use Everton to satisfy his England records!

Iain Latchford
51 Posted 03/03/2017 at 10:54:27
Comes down to money. How much are we going to pay him? £50k p/w... £100k... £150k? Where do you draw the line?
Phil Martin
52 Posted 03/03/2017 at 10:56:39
To those who express an opinion that Rooney is way past his prime – there are posters here who will claim to know you, and accuse you of being bitter.
Dermot Byrne
53 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:08:04
Draw the line across the A580, Iain!
Brian Harrison
54 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:19:12
Obviously this seems to divide the opinions of our fans, but if both the manager and the Director of Football want him, then we have to trust their judgement.

You can bet that Koeman will not be influenced by any sentimentality in his decision, just will he improve the team and the squad.

Dermot Byrne
55 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:21:59
Despite the fact I know more than Koeman and don't want him, that is probably a fair point, Brian (#52).
Iain Latchford
56 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:27:24
Everton want to improve the team obviously, but are also in the process of raising the profile of the club. Rooney coming to us brings a lot of media attention. "No such thing as bad publicity". Not sure I agree entirely with that statement but I can see how they might be thinking.
Brian Harrison
57 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:27:44
Dermot

I think all of us from time to time think we know more than the manager, it's just trying to persuade Moshiri that he should be paying us the £6 million a year and not Koeman.

Matthew Williams
58 Posted 03/03/2017 at 11:53:57
He would score at Anfield... sign him.
Dermot Byrne
59 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:07:32
I'd be lucky to get £6, Brian!
Terry Underwood
60 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:17:19
Yes, he is past his best, but that doesn't mean he cannot do a job for us. We have signed similar players before, Andy Gray, Gareth Barry and Phil Neville to name but a few, they all did – and in Barry's case, are still doing – a good job for us. Even now, Roonaldo is better than Kone and Valencia.

Provided the money is not silly, I would say Yes, welcome home.

Joe Foster
61 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:29:28
I wouldn't mind. He can still do a job for us.
James Marshall
62 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:38:42
Of course we should sign Rooney.

I fail to see why there's any discussion required.

John Daley
63 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:46:14
"Peter Beagrie all over again... He was never the same superstar he'd been a decade earlier."

Peter Beagrie: Superstar? Please tell me you're not taking the piss. I would love it if someone out there actually did think of Beagrie as being a world beater when he was with us and worshipped him as a hero.

I'm now picturing a six-year-old settling down to watch Monkey Magic in that salmon and blue striped monstrosity we had for an away kit one year and waiting with bated breath for a muzzy sporting white guy, with a badly dubbed Middlesborough accent, to suddenly somersault in to protect Pigsy against allegations he stinks of pish. 

His biggest claim to fame whilst representing Everton was revving up and Eval Knieval'ing his way through a plate glass entranceway while pissed one pre-season. Even then... as with his 'mazy dribbling' skills and pin-point crossing ability... 'Beags' got things utterly arse about face and went with the wrong option. As the night porter undoubtedly said, "De el lado, you daft twat".

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John Daley
64 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:48:54
"He does not have the pace or perhaps stamina but a nice finish to his career coming back to where he started."

True, it would be a very nice way for Wayne to finish his career, but cushioning his fall from the heights of the game with an inflated airbag of a salary, making sure his aching body is alright and then motioning him into a two-sizes-too-small for him first-team shirt, before swearing down it's not a case of MUtton dressed as lamb, should be the last thing on any Evertonians mind (except maybe his).

From our point of view, it needs to be all about what is best for the club going forward, not how the curtain coming down should pan out for someone who hasn't played for the club since he was a kid.

Tony J Williams
65 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:55:36
On a free, as Kevin Bacon says, "it's a no-brainer".
William Cartwright
66 Posted 03/03/2017 at 12:59:07
Lots of arguments for and against. Put yourself in Rooney's position and consider...

1 - 2 years added onto a glittering career with the chance to play for the Club where your true heart lies? Sorry but for me its a no-brainer. He should be given the opportunity to contribute to the cause and the general well-being of the Club. If that involves more publicity, and increased marketing,then fine.

However, if he did not deliver on the pitch then he would be moved over to the bench or elsewhere.

I don't get this 'blocking the progress' of others. Koeman doesn't think like that. If you are good enough you are old enough. Simple.

Whilst I am not overly romantic, it might just be that a rejuvenated Rooney may pay dividends in spades; Then again he may not, but there is nothing to be lost and a hell of a lot to gain if it works out.

John Daley
67 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:04:57
"It really does send a message to other players, current and prospective, that we mean business"

How does it? It's not like Everton will have prised him away from Man Utd. He's not a player they are desperate to keep. He's no longer a guaranteed starter or integral to their immediate future. They want rid and come the summer will probably be stood at the door waiting, with his bags already packed and insisting they give whoever picks him up petrol money for their trouble. 

Nor is it likely Everton will have to beat off competition from clubs higher placed in the table or be looking behind them for any realistic taker Rooney might see as a more creditable fit. We're, basically, the best, most face-saving option he's going to get if he wants to carry on in the Premier League.

Beyond the club still being a Kenwright enthused, sentimental soft-touch, mooning over a player who pissed off 13 years ago, what else is such a move going to be screaming to the world about Everton that they don't already know?

"Everton could not attract a 32-year-old who has won everything that club footy can offer. Period."

Previously, you mean? Admittedly, I'm a year out, but didn't Everton 'attract' a 33-year-old who had won just as much as Rooney a mere couple of seasons ago, in the shape of Samuel Eto'o?

We then had fans and pundits lining up around the block to proclaim it a coup, pointing to his past honours, pedigree and 'winning mentality', before rolling out some romanticised shite about how he could maybe help school all the raw youngsters at the club, ruffle their hair and buy them a sherbert dip... for no other reason than he was 'dead fucking old' in football years.

Look how that turned out. 

Samuel Eto'o came to Everton for Samuel Eto'o. He came to prolong his playing career at as high a level he could and pad out his already bulging bank account, not because of any altruistic intent or burning ambition on his part, no matter how many people tried to project it.

Those who think Rooney won't be making his next career move with the exact same priorities in mind, but will instead be mulling over how it might possibly pan out for the club and whether it would be to their benefit as much as his, simply because he used to be an Everton fan, are imbuing the decision making process of a professional (and his agent) with the sort of sentimentality and selflessness that was shed well before he was out of his teens.

Tony Cunningham
68 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:11:36
I don't think it'll happen as, no matter what pay cut he takes, it'll still be money we could be spending on a young fresh talent. Even taking a 66% pay cut down to a mere £100k would be Lukaku-style wages and I'd rather keep Rom than get back Rooney.

However, I'm quite happy for the media to talk about it and keep mentioning us in relation to him. All press is good press.

James Hughes
69 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:24:55
Too much has been read into this from Walsh or Koeman. When they are asked would you like Rooney back, they are not going to react in our manner are they?.

They are going to say positive things and play nice. They might be thinking:

"Rooney back here, are you joking?"

They have to say

"Yeah he is a great player and we would look at it."

Kevin Gillen
70 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:48:39
A no-brainer for me if the price is right. Would he improve our team? Considering he pulled us apart at Goodison last season, I would have thought he definitely would. I don't want lots of new signings just one or two of the right quality will do and he would do for me.

I don't blame him for leaving when he did even though it was a seismic loss at the time and I was really angry at the club; it demonstrated how far we had fallen at that time. His attitude on the pitch has always been first class.

Brent Stephens
71 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:50:39
There was a young lad call Wayne...
Brent Stephens
72 Posted 03/03/2017 at 13:52:25
Who left Everton purely for gain...
Dave Abrahams
73 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:13:03
And in leaving was full of pain.
Brent Stephens
74 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:14:13
Kissed his badge, such bad class...
Brian Wilkinson
75 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:17:13
Lukaku and Rooney up top, then you have a strong midfield in Gueye, Schneiderlin, Davies, Barkley and Mirallas to choose from. Then there's McCarthy who could fill Barry's role. Add to that, Baines, Coleman, Holgate, Williams, Robles and possibly Keane.

Even if it's only for a couple of seasons, it will give us time to develop our young forwards, or even bring in another striker long term.

I think it's worth a punt; one thing's for sure, his arse won't go when we visit Anfield next season.

Dave Abrahams
76 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:17:35
But many honours he did attain.
Brian Wilkinson
77 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:27:06
Brent @69 – no excuse for kissing the badge but, in his defence, he got horrendous abuse; in no other workplace would you be able to slate a person without facing consequences... every time he touched the ball he faced the abuse.

Rooney kissed his badge to stick two fingers up to the abuse he took, probably regretted it afterwards but a heat-of-the-moment thing he did.

Joey Barton bared his arse from the abuse we gave him, people will do heat-of-the-moment things.

Funny we never hear about Sheedy sticking two fingers up to the Kop, or was that okay because it was Everton?

Paul Mackie
78 Posted 03/03/2017 at 14:32:45
John Daley – I usually agree with everything you post, but I think you're wrong on this one. I think he could well come to Everton for a couple of years and then go for a final payday somewhere.

You're correct in saying that Eto'o was only interested in himself. You're also correct in saying that Rooney will also only look out for himself. But I think in this case what Rooney wants and what Everton want could be the same thing. Rooney gets to return to his boyhood club and make his kids proud whilst still earning a considerable wedge of cash. Everton get to cash in on Rooney (again, only this time through flogging merchandise) and gain a quality option up front.

Am I being sentimental and soft? Yeah probably, but if there's no room in football for emotion any more then what's the fucking point of it?

Having said all that, I'd say there's about a 10% chance of all this even coming to pass.

Gary Russell
79 Posted 03/03/2017 at 15:13:30
Terry @59 'Yes, he is past his best, but that doesn't mean he cannot do a job for us. We have signed similar players before, Andy Gray, Gareth Barry and Phil Neville to name but a few, they all did and...'

Neville did a good job? Really?? Worst gobshite I have ever seen in a blue shirt. SHOCKING! How he ever made a huge wad is a mystery to me.

Now he is a pundit, marginally better than when he wore a pair of footy boots, which is not saying fuck all.

Steve Carse
80 Posted 03/03/2017 at 15:22:18
Brian (#74), "in no other workplace would you be able to slate a person without facing consequences" – are you sure? I could name quite a few, none of which are compensated by a £1m a month pay packet. Traffic wardens, anyone? Many others find themselves abused in other ways e.g. through attack and criticism in the media.

Rooney's kissing of the Man Utd badge was unprecedented in football and unjustified whatever the provocation. It was the act of an immature young man facing the inevitable and fully justified wrath of those who'd received a kick in the bollocks from a hero.

Kevin Tully
81 Posted 03/03/2017 at 15:29:47
I think Rooney would be brilliant... for about a dozen games or so, then we would end up with a fat, baldy 'Mars bar Kid' type player who wouldn't even be arsed getting a new hair transplant for us.

A Kenwright move if ever there was one. What's he going to show the younger players? His phone full of prozzies' numbers?

Darryl Ritchie
82 Posted 03/03/2017 at 15:48:08
It's not Man Utd that's allowing to Rooney leave, it's Mourinho. If this happens, and it just might, Mourinho will be responsible for two of our players.

He didn't fancy Lukaku, and we all know what a disaster that turned out to be. Just because this manager, or that manager, doesn't play a particular player, often means very little. Case in point, Victor Moses at Chelsea.

I don't think Rooney is 'washed up'; I do think he's out of favour with his current manager, though.

Keith Monaghan
83 Posted 03/03/2017 at 15:58:23
Gary @ 78.

Like everyone, you're entitled to your opinion, but your comments about Phil Neville are an embarrassment to Everton FC & all our supporters; they say a lot about the type of person you are.

I, and I know I'm not alone, believe Phil Neville was not a great player but was our best captain since Dave Watson, and was a great ambassador for our club.

I personally don't wish to see Rooney back here – it would be a short-term move and he would restrict younger players' opportunities.

Paul Abel
84 Posted 03/03/2017 at 16:26:32
Teams recruit players for a whole lot of reasons. The reasons we fans pay attention to are football-related – what skills and strengths do they bring to the team etc. But the club needs to generate income to fund player acquisition, and marketing and merchandising are an increasing part of the revenue mix.

I am guessing the thought to bring back Rooney to his alma mater is driven more by the merchandising and marketing than his football contribution. Along with Beckham and Gerrard, his name is probably the best known of any English footballer, and would give Everton a big boost in the revenue line (if handled properly). Hopefully, outweighing his cost to the club.

Brian Furey
85 Posted 03/03/2017 at 16:34:17
I had a look at Rooney on Wiki and my God the lad has some list of sponsors and won some awards over the years. I get the feeling Wayne wants to give something back to the club and show his kids what it is like to be an Everton fan. He's got 3 sons and wouldn't it be great if they grew up as Everton fans and maybe play for us one day too.

There is no doubt Wayne made the right career choice in moving to Man Utd as he became a superstar there and won everything there was to win, unlike Gerrard for Liverpool. He is only 1 year older than Jamie Vardy and look how well he did last year. Teddy Sheringham left Man Utd in 2001 aged 35 to return to Spurs where they got to a league cup final and he scored 13 goals that season.

I think Lukaku would love to have Rooney as his strike partner as he knows he would learn a lot from him as well as being a good foil in games.

Mourinho didn't rate Rom or Schneiderlin either. Obviously he's not the player he once was but I think he definitely could do a job for us at the minute and it would be crazy not to be interested in him if we don't have to fork out crazy money on his wages.

Michael Kenrick
86 Posted 03/03/2017 at 16:38:04
Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho dismissed as "nonsense" media reports that captain Wayne Rooney is open to the idea of returning to his boyhood club Everton at the end of the season.

The 31-year-old striker's future was the subject of speculation last month, with British media reporting that a move to China was on the cards until Rooney released a statement reiterating his commitment to United.

Rooney, the all-time leading goalscorer for club and country, has started eight Premier League games this season and has not played since February 1.

Mourinho said the striker was in the squad for Saturday's league clash with Bournemouth, "with possibilities to . start or be on the bench."

Since he had decided to "help the team and to fight for Manchester United he's an important player for us," Mourinho told reporters on Friday.

"I think by giving you these two details I'm telling you all the talk about Everton for me makes nonsense."

Newspapers in London and Liverpool reported Rooney was open to a return, while Everton manager Ronald Koeman said he would welcome the striker back.

Mourinho would "100 percent" like Rooney to still be at United next season, "but I don't give you 100 percent and I like the players to be happy and not just to be with me because I want them with me."

Rooney has been kept out of the team by Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who has scored 26 goals in all competitions this season.


From Eurosport

Brian Harrison
87 Posted 03/03/2017 at 16:53:06
Michael,

Jose said some weeks ago when the speculation about him going to China that he would like Rooney to stay but, if he chose to leave, it was up to the player. So I can't see what's changed in the last 2 weeks; obviously whatever happens, he has got Rooney till the end of the season, so why not make him feel wanted? But you would think, if he wanted Rooney that much, then why hasn't he played him since the 1st of February?

Just staying with Man Utd, I know a lot of Man Utd fans who were apoplectic when they heard that they had signed Ibrahimovic for a free. Now if we think some of the comments about Rooney maybe joining us at his age, what they were saying at the time was unprintable. Now, when I ask those same fans, they tell me he was the best signing in the Premier League ever.

Now I am not saying that Rooney would have the same impact or not if he signed. But I don't think his age should be a barrier as Ibrahimovic proved age is just a number.

Brent Stephens
88 Posted 03/03/2017 at 16:56:22
Brian #77, I started a limerick in the hope others might develop it. I think only Dave #76 recognised it for what it was.

It could have ended on your counter point.

Michael Kenrick
89 Posted 03/03/2017 at 17:06:55
It's hard to fathom the Mind of Mourinho, Brian. But I missed off this bit of analysis that followed the piece quoted above:

The most revealing quote here isn't the "100%" one, which is little better than lip service. Instead, Mourinho's true feelings come out when he says "I like the players to be happy and not just to be with me because I want them with me". That is yet another clever bit of manipulation of the situation by Jose, putting the responsibility for Rooney's inevitable departure squarely on the shoulders of the player rather than himself.

In fact, this whole Rooney issue has been a perfect opportunity for Mourinho to showcase his incredible powers of manipulation.

When he took over at Old Trafford it was a headline story whenever Rooney didn't start for Manchester United. But slowly and surely the coach has worked on those perceptions until creating an environment in which Wazza's absence is now expected. He did the same with Frank Lampard at Chelsea and both clubs ended up being the better for his ruthlessness.

Mourinho is just messin with us and our delicate scouse emotions!

Brian Furey
90 Posted 03/03/2017 at 17:20:27
Here you go, Brent:

There was a young lad call Wayne...
Who left Everton purely for gain...
He joined Man United
Who got very excited
When they beat the Red Shite every game

Paul Swan
91 Posted 03/03/2017 at 17:32:50
Real mixed feelings on this. As a father of a young child around the time Rooney broke through both for us and England, he had a true home grown Everton hero he could aspire to. "Once a Blue, Always a Blue" added to this and it was a good time to be a young Everton supporter even in the absence of trophies. I was lucky enough to see title and cup winning teams and we all had our hero's to look up to so we know how important this is.

However, I remember the gut wrenching sickening feeling seeing the various photo mock ups of Rooney's head in a Man Utd shirt just before he went and then the acrimonious way he left the club basically pissed on his bonfire. Coupled with the badge kissing antics this is still something I struggle to get past.

On the other hand, as my lad now points out to me, a signing like this raises the profile of the club. I just hope if he does come back he plays in a different way he seems to get used by England and united when they are at their worst, ie, trying to pick up the ball on the edge of the area and spraying useless aimless balls out to both wings.

Brent Stephens
92 Posted 03/03/2017 at 17:58:24
Brian (#90), you win the first prize – a home match in the Boys Pen with Dear Bill (second prize, two matches with him).

There was a Chairman called Bill...

Brent Stephens
93 Posted 03/03/2017 at 17:59:35
Who said "for a new ground I'd kill"...
Tony Hill
94 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:17:02
I suppose this thread and other similar ones, show one of the main potential problems if Rooney returns: he will become the only, or the dominant, story – a story that even now is being written for us and not by us.

We should be writing a different one...

Dermot Byrne
95 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:34:39
"And I think by giving you these little details I'm telling you all the talk about Everton for me makes it nonsense."

Man Utd Manager, 3 March 2017.

Though Sky may tell both parties they insist on the deal.

Tony Abrahams
96 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:41:54
He had holes in his shoes
But he still bought the blues
And then treated the people like fools!
David Israel
97 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:46:07
Jose Mourinho saying it's nonsense is yet another indication that this will probably happen. "Fact-checking" is in fashion these days, so I would challenge anyone with the time and the inclination to fact-check The Bitter One's statements over the years.
Brent Stephens
98 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:53:39
Tony, second prize to you, then.
Denis Richardson
99 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:57:53
Rooney is supppsedly worth over £100m. If he's such a blue why doesn't he offer to play for free?

I'd much rather see the club pay another younger decent player the money they would otherwise pay Rooney, if he came. From a footballing sense make no sense imo.

Also the added circus he would bring would be a distruptive influence.

Really hope this doesn't happen.

Mark McParlan
100 Posted 03/03/2017 at 18:58:03
Choose between playing Rooney or Mirallas/Lookman? There's only one winner.
Peter Fearon
101 Posted 03/03/2017 at 19:53:42
Once a blue
Now a red
In our hearts Wayne
You are dead.

My feelings have mellowed a little since I first saw that on a banner at Goodison but only a little. If he still has two seasons in him, great, but please, not with the whole Colleen & the Croxteth skanks media hype thrown in.

Paul Birmingham
102 Posted 03/03/2017 at 22:12:51
On face value and on performance time and impact, most people I think see Rooney in their minds older than he is? Father Time waits for no one and reality is he'd be for me a squad player and impact sub, but he could potentially be an asset to the back room staff. Does any one see him doing his badges? That's the one for me..

Any signing would have to be planned and I don't see his signing as a quirk, as being the way to do it. If the board, and ultimately sanction this deal, then there must be a plan. I'd like to think this would be done properly if it is done, but as a view to a coaching role in the future.

I'd say yes, but my head is saying that time money, his wife's business success, will mean that any decision to go or say no, is a decision, the board must take seriously.

We can't derail the fresh beam of hope we have in place. Stick or twist?

William George
103 Posted 04/03/2017 at 09:14:26
To me, if Rooney is available, it would be folly not to try and get him back. Whilst he may not be the player he was, he still has class, experience and vision that few of our other players possess and would offer something.

However, more fundamentally, we are trying to break into the "Sky 6" (I hate this phrase) and if we want to attract genuine world class players, having Rooney will be seen as a major statement of intent to those players and agents.

This is the bigger picture we should be looking at, just as Man City did with the Robinho signing. He was largely woeful but his being there was the catalyst for others to join (along with the wages being offered of course) and them being where they are now.

Laurie Hartley
104 Posted 04/03/2017 at 09:58:08
Mark (#100) – Mourinho is playing Rashford and Linguard ahead of Rooney.

I'll stick my neck out and say that, from the little I have seen of him, Lookman is as good as either of them. I think he is going to go on to be a great Everton player.

Koeman has stated "he is the future". Rooney – good as he was– is the past.

David Price
105 Posted 05/03/2017 at 00:50:19
Koeman wants him, I guess to challenge on four fronts next season.
The manager sees the big picture here and ignores/does not have the emotions fans have about Wayne.

Football reasons only, target, trophies. That'll do for me.

Drew O'Neall
106 Posted 05/03/2017 at 09:23:43
I'm trying to work out 'the business' behind this one.

At the end of the season United will still owe him £15.5m.

I think we can assume:

A) Rooney wants his £15m
B) United want him off their books
C) Everton shouldn't pay £15m
D) United don't want to pay him off
E) United will receive offers

This is why he's 'staying to fight on all fronts for United'. He has to force their hand to accept the hit rather than a big cash in.

I wonder if Jose will put him in the Under-23s with Schweinsteiger?

Rooney's agent Stretford will be wanting a Chinese pay day... This will be huge credit to Rooney's resilience to the pressure from United and people close to him if he comes back, whether you like the idea of it or not.

Tony Williams
107 Posted 05/03/2017 at 10:34:09
Rooney of old yes, but now, NO.
Stephen Ashton
108 Posted 06/03/2017 at 15:53:40
A footballer from Croxteth way,
'Deserted his roots' as they say,
He's turned down the Chinks,
Which does makes us think,
He's returning for a last pay day.

Paul McGee
109 Posted 09/03/2017 at 23:54:32
There are a lot of variables to this question. Wages, transfer fee? and whether we are in europe? But I think my heart and head says Yes to Rooney coming back.

We would get two years out of him and wouldn't need to run others ragged. If Rom gets injured where are we at present, we need another two options at least and Rooney being one is ideal. A new qaulity signing up front may also have time to settle in, especially if its a young prospect brought in by Walsh's scoutig netwrok.

With a proven goalscorer, an experienced winger and a great exciting new prospect up front, we would be formidable. All have something to prove and competition is needed. He could also suit Koeman as he provides a different dimension, which he likes in his setups.

With regards to age, many players have shown how they can help a side with their experience and talent. I'm thinking of Martyn, Neville, Beardsley, Klinsman to name a few. The list could go on. There are quite a few who haven't - its' a punt as all transfers are. Not sure why Beagrie came up in this disucssion... Pennar was a bigger disspointment to me on his return.

If we are in Europe, trying to finish in the top six and to go for a domestic cup (extra 15 matches at least) we would need the extra strenght and if we got him on wages around £100k then I wouldnt see a problem – shirt sales alone, etc. If its £300k wages and £10mil transfer, then nope – spend it on others who we can make money back on if needed. But on a free and spend the money on decent centre-back or two and new upcomig wing back & striker then I'm all for it.

Joe Edwards
110 Posted 11/03/2017 at 10:44:13
As much as I would like to see Rooney back in an Everton shirt, I just don't practically see how it would work. We have finally found Barkley's best position in the advanced midfield role, Davies, Schneiderlin and Gueye are our starting midfield so. Wayne no longer has the engine to play the forward line as he used to do so where does Koeman play him?

My heart says yes but my brain says "Go to America, Wayne and see out your days as an all-American superstar."

Dale Rose
111 Posted 14/03/2017 at 12:39:54
I posted a while ago that I wouldn't want him back. However, on a free with a wage deal, it might just work.

The third quarter of the Spurs game a few weeks ago would have been ideal for someone like Rooney who would have dug in and made something happen. I love the team at the moment, all coming together well after the last few years.

I work for a company which is top-heavy with red shite and it's nice to see that even a bunch of gobshites like them are now taking the club seriously. Long may it last... not that I'm bitter.

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