The Toffees supposedly vied with Chelsea for the big Senegalese defender in the 2016 close close season but Koulibaly ended up staying with Napoli and signed a new contract with the Serie A club last September.
His new terms are said to have included £49m release clause which has been enough to cool the Londoners' interest in him.
Original Source: Football Italia
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1 Posted 27/04/2017 at 06:59:34
2 Posted 27/04/2017 at 07:42:13
3 Posted 27/04/2017 at 08:23:44
4 Posted 27/04/2017 at 10:30:32
But don't get me wrong, they are both fantastic & would get people talking.
A couple big signings & Everton will be a very very exciting place for players & it will draw them in!
I think we need 7 or 8 signings to be honest - with a couple outgoings.
GK: Schmeichel / Forster / Heaton
RB: Zabaleta (loan)
2 x CB: Keane / Van Dijk / Koulibaly / Gibson / Maguire / Ake
LB: Chilwell / Bertrand / Shaw
LB: Sessegnon (send back out on loan)
CAM: Sigurdsson / Rooney
ST: Iheanacho / Batshauyi / Perez / Dolberg
If we end with:
I'd be very happy!
And maybe a couple more, with a few outgoings.
5 Posted 27/04/2017 at 11:48:44
6 Posted 27/04/2017 at 11:51:18
7 Posted 27/04/2017 at 11:53:12
8 Posted 27/04/2017 at 12:13:19
9 Posted 27/04/2017 at 12:18:26
10 Posted 27/04/2017 at 12:32:16
11 Posted 27/04/2017 at 15:05:56
Imagine if we got Koulibaly and Van Dijk???????
It could happen.
12 Posted 27/04/2017 at 15:24:33
13 Posted 27/04/2017 at 15:36:24
14 Posted 27/04/2017 at 15:43:51
Our trump card besides money will be the attraction of up and coming youth players and getting players who aren't getting enough game time where they are.
Expect Rooney, Maguire, Joe Hart, Sigurdsson and a right back and if Barkley and Lukaku go a top class midfield player and forward.
15 Posted 27/04/2017 at 16:21:30
16 Posted 27/04/2017 at 17:23:23
Harry Maguire would be a realistic CB signing. Perhaps Keane, but only if none of the top 6 go for him. Other reasonable names would be Rooney, Sigurdsson, Chilwell, Joe Hart.
17 Posted 27/04/2017 at 17:28:49
By all accounts Chelsea have gone cold on him and are perusing other target so depending on who is interested, Champions League clubs etc, we may have a chance of signing him, or Van Dijk for that matter?!
18 Posted 27/04/2017 at 17:46:47
19 Posted 27/04/2017 at 18:30:21
20 Posted 27/04/2017 at 18:46:40
And these, supposedly, shit leagues seem to do better in European cup competitions than so-called English teams do.
21 Posted 27/04/2017 at 18:51:45
Let's face it, most of us could be football managers if we were given a budget that allowed for £50 million to be spent on a centre-half.
I am hoping we will spend maybe £100 million this summer, so I don't want half of it blown on a centre-half!
22 Posted 27/04/2017 at 19:12:40
23 Posted 27/04/2017 at 21:39:52
Please let's not have a repeat of all of last summers bollox. There is more chance of Michael Jackson playing in defence for us than Koulibaly.
24 Posted 27/04/2017 at 22:19:21
But realistically we need to be looking at players who aren't getting game time etc but would strengthen us Players like Nolito... Rooney.
Bring these in along with a few hidden gems that hopefully Walsh can conjure up.
In addition, we have 4 games remaining and even if West Brom were to win the game in hand that would still leave us 11 points clear of them. As such we are pretty much nailed on for 7th position.
We should take this opportunity to play the likes of Walsh, Sambou Kenny and Dowell in the remaining competitive games. It's all well and good playing in pre season but it's not a patch on the reality of the premier league. Give them the chance to shine but without the pressure of "must-win" games.
They would all gain experience against the likes of Chelsea, Swansea, Watford and Arsenal and would give Koeman a really good indication of how ready they are.
Sometimes players of this age will surprise you and actually play better than they do in the U23s as the occasion boosts them.
25 Posted 27/04/2017 at 23:17:10
We need players who can change and win games, the rest should come from the U23s. Kenny and Holgate are good enough to stand in for Seamus.
We have to use or buy the hungry up-and-coming players not journeymen mercenaries.
26 Posted 28/04/2017 at 01:27:36
27 Posted 28/04/2017 at 03:41:54
If, as is very likely, Lukaku goes then I hope we'd pick up Dolberg, but he's too hot for us.
If by some stroke of luck we really are in for one of these guys and are prepared to pay over the odds to land them ahead of the big guys, then I'm afraid it'll go down to the last second of the transfer deadline day.
What you guys need to realise is these guys do NOT want to join us. Be real, they will know nothing about us. Even Koeman said how little he knew of our history. Martinez as well. They see us as a small old club. If we're really in for this guy, and we get an offer accepted then he'll get his agent to get Chelsea to match it. And then they'll play chicken with Napoli and it'll be a last minute deal. Exactly like Sissoko did last summer.
This is the reality guys. No early deals will be done for top players. Best we can do is find up and coming players and players like Schneiderlin who are not considered good enough for the very best. And be real, ask yourself, would Schneiderlin get in Chelsea's side, their best XI?
Steve Walsh is in place not to identify the best players, any one can do that. He's in place to identify the next Kante, the next Mahrez, etc. Tielemens and Mbappe are what we need, but we're too late for these guys, their reputation is soaring, above what we can attract. So we need to find players like these but without the soaring reputation. I hope Walsh is up to the task.
Please be patient guys. It's not what we want to hear, but we can't go out and compete with the best, we can't match their wages, prestige, competitions, and like the rest of the north west, its harder to get these guys to look past London.
We've got a cracking youth side and set up. Let's hope we can bring a few more through who explode like Davies did and if not, get Walsh to work his magic. And meantime bring the below world class players in like Brahimi.
28 Posted 28/04/2017 at 06:39:19
He used to be. His current coach is working wonders with him. He's looks sharp now.
29 Posted 28/04/2017 at 06:41:56
30 Posted 28/04/2017 at 06:56:04
31 Posted 28/04/2017 at 06:57:01
32 Posted 28/04/2017 at 07:38:35
33 Posted 28/04/2017 at 07:45:31
The reality is that until we hit the Champions League and/or actually win something we've got very little chance of competing against the teams that are in Champions League for their top tier targets. The only slight chance is if we were to pay massively over the odds but even in the unlikely case we could win a financial pissing contest with Chelsea, Man Utd or Man City, I'd say it would be insane to spend this sort of money on a defender.
Where I think we can zip in is with younger talented players from smaller clubs/leagues that may be want but who aren't the Champions League teams' top targets and/or aren't realistically going to be offered regular first team football immediately. The likes of Tielemens and Keane feel more realistic in this respect.
34 Posted 28/04/2017 at 07:56:15
We can't do what Chelsea and City have done previously in spending that much in fee and wages on a player. Even with Mosh we don't have that kind of money.
I think we will add some quality signings but they will be more unknowns Walsh-type signings. That's what he was brought in for, after all.
35 Posted 28/04/2017 at 08:30:28
Not so sure about this, mate! Some maybe??? Many TWers seem to know a lot about football from a player or ex-player perspective but, IMO, management of player egos at Premier League and equivalent levels must take a lot skill, much of which cannot be taught.
36 Posted 28/04/2017 at 09:25:01
My tip for a Walsh-esque centre-bacwould be Kara Mbodji. A big lad at 6ft-4in who has done well at Anderlecht this season especially in the Europa league. He wins a lot of headers as you can imagine and is decent enough on the ball.
He's 27 now so coming into his peak years and is very keen to move clubs. Would probably set us back around £7-10m. Funnily enough, Leicester have been sniffing around him.
37 Posted 28/04/2017 at 10:11:02
38 Posted 28/04/2017 at 12:43:20
We hopefully will get to a point where we can sign these big name players but it will take time and a lot of paying over the odds like Man City had to do to become a big club.
Whilst it will be sad to see Lukaku leave us, I think his progression will also help us to get young players like him. A lot of the huge clubs tend to sign these young prospects at 18 and 19 but they then don't trust them to play first team football.
Players like Iheanacho, Batshuayi and many others may want to play for the biggest clubs in champion league but they don't want to be on the bench and so they probably look at what Lukaku did and think, "Wow, I can do the same. Go to a club not in the top 4 and get regularly games, boost my confidence and improve my game for a few years and then be ready for the Champions League."
John Stones probably knew when he signed from Barnsley that he would be moving on to a regular Champions League. club within a few years.
Some fans who think with their passionate heart might say "Fuck them, they gotta love our club and want to play for us or they're not welcome."
We gotta play the market to our advantage and with us getting into Europe (most likely) and with the World Cup next year, I think there could be a good few players who would be happy to sign for a club like us where they know they will get regular football.
Other older players could look at Schneiderlin and think they don't want to be in their mid- to late-20s and be on the bench. They want to be one of the first names on the team sheet and that's why I think players like Keane will chose a club outside the top 4.
39 Posted 28/04/2017 at 12:51:36
40 Posted 28/04/2017 at 13:00:43
We are also competing against the lure factor of London until such time as we can command some real kudos. Finishing 7th this season ain't gonna cut the mustard. Fortunately we might land the odd gem of a player if the circumstances are right but I think for now we have to rely on Steve Walsh to do his magic and find some of his gems like Gaye.
If we can start next season snapping at the feet of the top four on a regular basis, that is when we start to get some kudos and make our presence known.
41 Posted 28/04/2017 at 13:39:47
42 Posted 28/04/2017 at 13:44:41
43 Posted 28/04/2017 at 14:12:17
44 Posted 28/04/2017 at 15:12:18
45 Posted 28/04/2017 at 16:21:16
Not sure that Keane (a Shawcross-type player who is excellent on set-pieces at either end but lacks agility and pace in the field) will go to Old Trafford. He didn't do so well there last time around as a young player, and, in fact, failed to impress. He was loaned out and the club sold him to Burnley after a loan spell as he did not fit the bill. Honestly, I am not convinced he is good enough for a top four side,
The rumour was that Jose was targeting Victor Lindelof at Benfica in December and January and it looks like that interest is still there. If Lindelof cannot be acquired then maybe Man Utd. goes after Keane. However, there would be no guarantee for him, if he returned, to play regularly for Jose, who has yet to settle on a center pairing even now.
46 Posted 28/04/2017 at 17:18:17
The more realistic approach is to continue building around proven Premier League talent (i.e. Keane, Sigurdsson), with Walsh hopefully burnishing the squad with a few overlooked gems. Which will hopefully elevate us into the top six, if not the top four, which would THEN put us in a position to go out and sign players like Koulibaly.
47 Posted 29/04/2017 at 00:17:30
Pursuant to this thread, which is about centre-backs, the Bournemouth player I'd like to see us pursue is Steve Cook. Best defender in Europe in the air.
48 Posted 29/04/2017 at 14:27:31
We may have more money but we're nowhere near the likes of Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc with respect to wages.
Also, personally I'd like to see the new money we have go into something more longer lasting like a new stadium or 3-4 top class youngsters.
Highly doubtful this guy would come to us anyway as a number of Champions League clubs will be in the running.
49 Posted 29/04/2017 at 15:50:51
I look at him on Match of the Day and I'm not sold. But from what I've seen here, he has been MotM so far: good on the ball, brought it out from the back, excellent in the air, a verbal presence and a real Captain.
I know it's only 45 mins, but I can now understand why Koeman is at least looking at him.
50 Posted 29/04/2017 at 00:05:08
McGuire looking the part at Hull, looks the real deal although I wasn't entirely sure until late as he looked too big, but on closer inspection he looks a really good solid defender.
Keane is an obvious one also, really looks like a top prospect.
Another name id happily throw out there which may cause a bit of a stir is Sakho. He's massively improved Palace, he's a French international and has pace power and heading ability.
Callum Chambers looks decent too, and if look closely at Utd and see what's happening with Smalling.
Plenty of players out there who could make the grade, all a lot cheaper than Koulibaly and all with Premier League experience.
51 Posted 01/05/2017 at 16:36:04
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