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1 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:07:06
In today's much inflated market, we may recoup on him.
2 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:09:32
We need a bigger squad for the Europa League.
3 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:23:17
4 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:25:45
5 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:27:16
6 Posted 08/07/2017 at 16:59:36
He has just lost his way a bit, but with the increased number of matches this season he will have his opportunity to show what he can do. We need competition and cover for injuries and when players get tired with two matches per week!
7 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:02:26
8 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:09:31
9 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:12:41
He said this about James just a few months ago:
“James is at a really good fitness level and that makes him a better player than I saw in the beginning. I think at the beginning of the season he wasnt fit and he had problems with his hamstrings. “But Im very pleased with his quality and how hes involved in the team. “We need competition for places in the midfield, which is why there was no possibility of one of the midfielders going in the January window. “Yes, Darron Gibson was allowed to leave because there was too much competition for him [to play regularly], but thats not the case with James McCarthy. “I think hes a really good player and we need players like this for the future of Everton.”
“But Im very pleased with his quality and how hes involved in the team.
“We need competition for places in the midfield, which is why there was no possibility of one of the midfielders going in the January window.
“Yes, Darron Gibson was allowed to leave because there was too much competition for him [to play regularly], but thats not the case with James McCarthy.
“I think hes a really good player and we need players like this for the future of Everton.”
So, yeah, maybe he's going, but Koeman seems to like him.
10 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:36:59
11 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:47:44
12 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:38:07
13 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:39:00
14 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:41:57
15 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:15:43
16 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:16:25
I'll drive him for nothing too.
17 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:43:23
18 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:54:41
19 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:29:44
Do we really? I feel the players coming in from now till closing of the window will determine what kind of season we will have and how far we have progressed.
20 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:48:52
He's a good player to rely on from the bench if we need some industry in the middle and are hanging on for a win at the very least.
21 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:55:52
How long has McCarthy been at the club. To the.best of my recollection his injury has only been a factor end of last season and this season and both club and country have been guilty of playing him when not fully fit.
Same question of Besic, but to my recollection here is that he has never been available for a full season. I would love to see it as I think he has a great engine and commitment to Everton but those who would keep him over Macca need to look at themselves, the facts and their prejudices.
Such decisions need to be made on facts alone. Macca is the best holding midfielder we have. Fact
22 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:57:19
23 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:39:29
His decision-making re recent appearances for Ireland was crazy. I suspect Koeman's positive words are common sense with the purpose of protecting any sell-on value.
I understand people's questions re Besic, but I hope he is now over his injury issues the rest of this year is key for his future with us.
24 Posted 09/07/2017 at 03:09:13
25 Posted 09/07/2017 at 04:13:12
The idea that he's superior to McCarthy is laughable.
26 Posted 09/07/2017 at 04:26:11
He'd been out with his first major hamstring injury, when Roberto sent him out still injured. Remember that? When the medical staff quit after that game?
Been a problem ever since.
He's not over-rated. He's been the same player since Roberto brought him into Wigan. What he gives, when healthy, is an unrelenting aggression.
7 seasons under OFM, of course he doesn't attack. The odd thing about him not jumping into the attack, is that the rare times he does he looks pretty good.
I say keep him and let's see what the coaching staff can get out of him.
27 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:52:41
28 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:34:29
29 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:38:51
I don't think there'll be that many departures other than the obvious ones such as McGeady and McCarthy. I can't see Besic getting a look-in either but I'm sure he ll let him go till January after Koeman has had a good look at him.
30 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:46:07
We need players that can be relied upon to play at a top 4 level, European level. When players are often crocked its a sign they're not good enough to play at that level anymore. This is definitely true of Darron Gibson. Its also why the top class players rarely get injured. Its in their DNA. Their bodies can handle extreme pressure. Lesser players cannot.
31 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:56:45
32 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:08:13
That said, I'd still have McCarthy ahead of Besic and even Davies (defensively) and we are probably losing Barry to age or a transfer.
33 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:11:17
34 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:16:58
Having one less Irish international in the squad so we have less need to deal with the Keane and O'Neill ego circus would also be welcome.
35 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:14:22
36 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:55:37
I say keep McCarthy if he wants to stay there's no saying he does. Loan out Besic to a Championship club and see how he performs; I think we all need to see him get a run of games.
37 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:17:38
Can't hide that I've never been a big fan, since we first signed him for an at the time ridiculous £13m. However, Sky inflation means we'll hopefully get our money back if not make a profit.
Can we also please get rid of Besic. How has this guy still got a contract to 2021? Did we sign him on a 7-year deal or stupidly give him an extension? Amazing to think he's been with us for 3 years, done very little other than keep Gibbo company in the treatment room, and still has another 4 years left! Who makes these contract decisions? I'm sure he's a nice guy but 7 years? He's appeared in 35 league games for us in 3 seasons.
Then of course there's Mr Niasse on his £55k/week contract which also has another 3 years to run.
I know you can't legislate for injuries and every transfer is a bit of a lottery but football really is an odd industry at times.
38 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:18:03
39 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:25:24
Who of you know-it-alls can set out the stats of length of time at the Club vs game played for both playersin in % vtermw.
That would be interesting. Lyndon, you usually know all these statistics so for balance could you respond as you are probably his greatest protagonist
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